Whats happening with Betnomi?

[Bushdark]

What's important to me personally is that they come back with all our funds intact and let us play on their site, that used to be one of the best gambling platforms on the internet.

One of the best! Are you talking about Betnomi? Users were facing issues with the withdrawals on Betnomi on a regular basis. The admin of Betnomi hasn't given any official announcement about the issues of the site since last few months. Some users have a good amount of fund stuck on their Betnomi account. I'm wondering why you have too much confidence and positive mindset about Betnomi while they are down for almost two months!

This is why we don't have to always keep our funds in a casino mostly when we make big wins. Those people that trusted this casino and have left almost all there winnings there hoping that one day, they will accumulate more profits and withdraw there funds are the ones that are complaining too hard about the casino.

We should always have it in our mind that anything can happen in the gaming and gambling industry and any decisions that we make is our own risk. Those who know this before now will always take precautions and not allow greed to dominate there interest in any way. We need to scrutinize our actions and checking it very well before we ever decide to go ahead.

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this will be a lesson for Betnomi users to play on truly trusted platform sites, at least casinos that are active in their platform campaigns every time. sporting events for example being a partner or sponsor would be great, because it looks like casino sites like that have big money and are not scammers.

It's true, especially when there was some red flags about Betnomi in past, but in general, nobody didn't paid attention to it. They managed to hide contraversies and make good reputation by sponsoring various prediction pools, making some promotions and giveaways.

This is why we don't have to always keep our funds in a casino mostly when we make big wins. Those people that trusted this casino and have left almost all there winnings there hoping that one day, they will accumulate more profits and withdraw there funds are the ones that are complaining too hard about the casino.

I don't like to keep big money on gambling platforms, but when it comes to gambling, especially betting, it's simply inevitable that you have to keep more or less significant money on your ballance. Betnomi was far from my main websites where I make bets, but I still lost at least $100.
I'm wondering, does anyone still believes that they will comeback after scheduled maintenance?

[Hispo]

Anyone checked Betnomi website today?
Sorry, we're down for scheduled maintenance - message is back again, so there is still some hope they could come back with some incredible story to tell.

Yep, they have brought back the maintenance message again. The maintenance message was removed on the 25th July, and they have added it again on 24th August. Let's wait and see the next move of Betnomi team. If Betnomi goes live again, then Sorsis will say that they did a sloppy job, not scammy .

I will admit we did some pretty sloppy job with our canceled ICO but, that was all it was sloppy, not scammy.

I see no reason for them to get off their way in order to put that message again, unless they are trying to fool people about coming back, so they can have some extra days to fully disappear with everyone's money ... or they are truly are planning something to come back and fully redeem themselves, giving the money back.
Though, it is more likely they realized that to this point their reputation is fully destroyed and may just try to fool and run. 

If something positive happens, I would like to know, so Ill keep an eye on this thread. Who knows, perhaps someone lost enough money to make worth going after these scammers and bring them to justice. I have been hoping to read so these days. 

[Mate2237]

Anyone checked Betnomi website today?
Sorry, we're down for scheduled maintenance - message is back again, so there is still some hope they could come back with some incredible story to tell.

Yep, they have brought back the maintenance message again. The maintenance message was removed on the 25th July, and they have added it again on 24th August. Let's wait and see the next move of Betnomi team. If Betnomi goes live again, then Sorsis will say that they did a sloppy job, not scammy .

I will admit we did some pretty sloppy job with our canceled ICO but, that was all it was sloppy, not scammy.

I see no reason for them to get off their way in order to put that message again, unless they are trying to fool people about coming back, so they can have some extra days to fully disappear with everyone's money ... or they are truly are planning something to come back and fully redeem themselves, giving the money back.
Though, it is more likely they realized that to this point their reputation is fully destroyed and may just try to fool and run. 

If something positive happens, I would like to know, so Ill keep an eye on this thread. Who knows, perhaps someone lost enough money to make worth going after these scammers and bring them to justice. I have been hoping to read so these days. 

If really they are coming back again then they have to settle all their outstanding payments plus their former manager icopress, and it they w not paid him. If they were maintaining the website they would have informed their representative (s) in the forum to inform all their customers to be awared that something like that would happen so nobody should panic but this one they just left without good notification and here they are saying that they want to come back from their website maintenance. I see the coming back again story as a scammy one.

They have already lost their trust in the forum so for them to gain back that reputation again, they have to clean up their mess. As you said, let see why will happen if they will bounce back with good package.

[Hispo]

Anyone checked Betnomi website today?
Sorry, we're down for scheduled maintenance - message is back again, so there is still some hope they could come back with some incredible story to tell.

Yep, they have brought back the maintenance message again. The maintenance message was removed on the 25th July, and they have added it again on 24th August. Let's wait and see the next move of Betnomi team. If Betnomi goes live again, then Sorsis will say that they did a sloppy job, not scammy .

I will admit we did some pretty sloppy job with our canceled ICO but, that was all it was sloppy, not scammy.

I see no reason for them to get off their way in order to put that message again, unless they are trying to fool people about coming back, so they can have some extra days to fully disappear with everyone's money ... or they are truly are planning something to come back and fully redeem themselves, giving the money back.
Though, it is more likely they realized that to this point their reputation is fully destroyed and may just try to fool and run. 

If something positive happens, I would like to know, so Ill keep an eye on this thread. Who knows, perhaps someone lost enough money to make worth going after these scammers and bring them to justice. I have been hoping to read so these days. 

If really they are coming back again then they have to settle all their outstanding payments plus their former manager icopress, and it they w not paid him. If they were maintaining the website they would have informed their representative (s) in the forum to inform all their customers to be awared that something like that would happen so nobody should panic but this one they just left without good notification and here they are saying that they want to come back from their website maintenance. I see the coming back again story as a scammy one.

They have already lost their trust in the forum so for them to gain back that reputation again, they have to clean up their mess. As you said, let see why will happen if they will bounce back with good package.

I mean, even though reputation is everything in this kind of business if they wanted to pull off a returnal with them giving back the money and paying the proper feed to their managers, eventually they could again get some of their former percentage of the market (not all of it, though). There has been already stories of redemption in different industries, not all people will trust them, but if enough people do and they sincerely apologize with a proper explanation, they may be able to even become profitable again.


To be honest, I do not know how screwed up one has to be to flush down the toilette such business as a successful casino just to appropriate passing money.

[holydarkness]

I mean, even though reputation is everything in this kind of business if they wanted to pull off a returnal with them giving back the money and paying the proper feed to their managers, eventually they could again get some of their former percentage of the market (not all of it, though). There has been already stories of redemption in different industries, not all people will trust them, but if enough people do and they sincerely apologize with a proper explanation, they may be able to even become profitable again.


To be honest, I do not know how screwed up one has to be to flush down the toilette such business as a successful casino just to appropriate passing money.

That'll be a very nice turn of event if it happens; Betnomi returned and regained third chance. But sometimes, the bridge is burnt too bad [with several civilians still in the middle on the bridge, burnt alive, and some fall to death to the gaping abyss below] that even when they rebuild the bridge and put "it's safe" sign, no one dare crossing.

[Hamphser]

I mean, even though reputation is everything in this kind of business if they wanted to pull off a returnal with them giving back the money and paying the proper feed to their managers, eventually they could again get some of their former percentage of the market (not all of it, though). There has been already stories of redemption in different industries, not all people will trust them, but if enough people do and they sincerely apologize with a proper explanation, they may be able to even become profitable again.


To be honest, I do not know how screwed up one has to be to flush down the toilette such business as a successful casino just to appropriate passing money.

That'll be a very nice turn of event if it happens; Betnomi returned and regained third chance. But sometimes, the bridge is burnt too bad [with several civilians still in the middle on the bridge, burnt alive, and some fall to death to the gaping abyss below] that even when they rebuild the bridge and put "it's safe" sign, no one dare crossing.

Once trust is broken then it couldn't really be turned back the way it was before,there might be some forgiveness or reconsideration but still that trust wont really be 100% just like in the past and thats the reality.

In every business then we do know that trust is something that hard to be build and would really be taking too long time and effort on building this one. On the time that it did really get that trust that it was trying to build and get over the period of time then it would really be something precious that should be kept intact to run on a smooth business on which it is really that been trusted by the community or the public
which it would really be generating out that profit or revenue but on the time that services and actions been made out which completely eradicate out that trust that had been given then for sure
people would flock away, there might be those people who might be giving out some second chance but the doubt inside is something that cant really be removed or something to be avoided
for such individual to think off specially if they are aware when it comes to history.

[iv4n]

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Once trust is broken then it couldn't really be turned back the way it was before,there might be some forgiveness or reconsideration but still that trust wont really be 100% just like in the past and thats the reality.
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Why would anyone make a deposit if the site could go offline just like that without any explanations?

Paulo Coelho — 'Everything that happens once can never happen again. But everything that happens twice will surely happen a third time.'

And this is not the first time for Betnomi...

[Hispo]

I mean, even though reputation is everything in this kind of business if they wanted to pull off a returnal with them giving back the money and paying the proper feed to their managers, eventually they could again get some of their former percentage of the market (not all of it, though). There has been already stories of redemption in different industries, not all people will trust them, but if enough people do and they sincerely apologize with a proper explanation, they may be able to even become profitable again.


To be honest, I do not know how screwed up one has to be to flush down the toilette such business as a successful casino just to appropriate passing money.

That'll be a very nice turn of event if it happens; Betnomi returned and regained third chance. But sometimes, the bridge is burnt too bad [with several civilians still in the middle on the bridge, burnt alive, and some fall to death to the gaping abyss below] that even when they rebuild the bridge and put "it's safe" sign, no one dare crossing.

Well, to be honest, I was not completely informed on the previous serious problems there were as precedent with this casino. I was aware of their relatively high success around here in the forum (because the signature campaigns, the managers they had and the prizes and promos they offered), however screwing up badly and coming three times is something which is rarely heard of any serious business, and with that I do not only mean within the gambling industry.

That leads me to believe there were very deep problems within the administration of that site,probably a big conflict of interest among those who were in charge of running it. Who knows, there is a chance someone in the staff wanted to have a good casino while other just wanted to exit scam when the time was appropriate to him and there were struggling for their own interests...

[holydarkness]

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That leads me to believe there were very deep problems within the administration of that site,probably a big conflict of interest among those who were in charge of running it. Who knows, there is a chance someone in the staff wanted to have a good casino while other just wanted to exit scam when the time was appropriate to him and there were struggling for their own interests...

If I may offer perspective from my own [personal] professional career, such cases where shareholders or the higher-ups are disagreeing about the direction of their company are not uncommon. And usually, it's solved through finding a middle way, taking majority votes if necessary, and on severe case, offering a buy out for the partners. One or two even publicly announced [it's a small business close to where I live] that they have internal issues and will come back with solution in an undetermined time, but assure that they will give their best, clear all of their duties and responsibilities, and then pull the brake while they internally solving their issue. None of the companies with these issues in the past from my experience took the houdini act.

[Gozie51]

If I may offer perspective from my own [personal] professional career, such cases where shareholders or the higher-ups are disagreeing about the direction of their company are not uncommon. And usually, it's solved through finding a middle way, taking majority votes if necessary, and on severe case, offering a buy out for the partners. One or two even publicly announced [it's a small business close to where I live] that they have internal issues and will come back with solution in an undetermined time, but assure that they will give their best, clear all of their duties and responsibilities, and then pull the brake while they internally solving their issue. None of the companies with these issues in the past from my experience took the houdini act.

To stage a come back is different from exit scam and you know the difference like you explained and narrated in your story at least the company told those customers that they are coming back better and stronger. This is what is expected from betnomi from customers and other people who may not have opened an account with them but were already believing in them only to be disappointed. So if company truly want to take a break to come back at a later date, they announce that to workers, customers and general public that is the difference.

[ultrloa]

If I may offer perspective from my own [personal] professional career, such cases where shareholders or the higher-ups are disagreeing about the direction of their company are not uncommon. And usually, it's solved through finding a middle way, taking majority votes if necessary, and on severe case, offering a buy out for the partners. One or two even publicly announced [it's a small business close to where I live] that they have internal issues and will come back with solution in an undetermined time, but assure that they will give their best, clear all of their duties and responsibilities, and then pull the brake while they internally solving their issue. None of the companies with these issues in the past from my experience took the houdini act.

To stage a come back is different from exit scam and you know the difference like you explained and narrated in your story at least the company told those customers that they are coming back better and stronger. This is what is expected from betnomi from customers and other people who may not have opened an account with them but were already believing in them only to be disappointed. So if company truly want to take a break to come back at a later date, they announce that to workers, customers and general public that is the difference.

But at the end of the day we shouldn't easily  believe on their claims that they come back more better and stronger since if they care about their reputation also on their community this incident will not happen. But since many has got compromised I guess much better to pass on and play on different reputable casino, since its hard to trust for second time again if they already failed their costumers who once trust them.

[efialtis]

this will be a lesson for Betnomi users to play on truly trusted platform sites, at least casinos that are active in their platform campaigns every time. sporting events for example being a partner or sponsor would be great, because it looks like casino sites like that have big money and are not scammers.

It's true, especially when there was some red flags about Betnomi in past, but in general, nobody didn't paid attention to it. They managed to hide contraversies and make good reputation by sponsoring various prediction pools, making some promotions and giveaways.

People didn`t pay attention because they benefited financially, it`s as simple as that really... I am obviously not referring to the forum "newbies" here. There were more than enough red flags, we have pointed this out multiple times already.

What`s shocking (and what could actually lead to a different discussion... Sorsis finally decided to do the exit scam and there is literally nothing any "victim" can do since we are still in the Wild West of crypto. Shit shows such as Betnomi can simply disappear with no consequences... Talk about why regulation of the space will not only come with its disadvantages...

[Hispo]

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That leads me to believe there were very deep problems within the administration of that site,probably a big conflict of interest among those who were in charge of running it. Who knows, there is a chance someone in the staff wanted to have a good casino while other just wanted to exit scam when the time was appropriate to him and there were struggling for their own interests...

If I may offer perspective from my own [personal] professional career, such cases where shareholders or the higher-ups are disagreeing about the direction of their company are not uncommon. And usually, it's solved through finding a middle way, taking majority votes if necessary, and on severe case, offering a buy out for the partners. One or two even publicly announced [it's a small business close to where I live] that they have internal issues and will come back with solution in an undetermined time, but assure that they will give their best, clear all of their duties and responsibilities, and then pull the brake while they internally solving their issue. None of the companies with these issues in the past from my experience took the houdini act.

Surely because those companies and those previous experiences you are talking about did not involve anyone within the administration having legitimate bad intentions for the future of the casino or the future of the gamblers who had fun there.

What I am trying to say is that this may not be the common case where those in the casino staff have disagreements on the direction to be taken, but rather one of the owners being a potential scammer who had had planned to exit scam for a long time but did not do it because saw some earning coming for the normal operation of the casino, however, it may just take a small occasion of low earnings or some week where the casino was under-performing for that person to take all the money and run away.

That is just a theory, but there are indeed many people on this planet who do not care for having a reliable business in the long term, as much as they care to burn it all for a sack of dirty money.

[bislom]

this will be a lesson for Betnomi users to play on truly trusted platform sites, at least casinos that are active in their platform campaigns every time. sporting events for example being a partner or sponsor would be great, because it looks like casino sites like that have big money and are not scammers.

It's true, especially when there was some red flags about Betnomi in past, but in general, nobody didn't paid attention to it. They managed to hide contraversies and make good reputation by sponsoring various prediction pools, making some promotions and giveaways.

People didn`t pay attention because they benefited financially, it`s as simple as that really... I am obviously not referring to the forum "newbies" here. There were more than enough red flags, we have pointed this out multiple times already.

What`s shocking (and what could actually lead to a different discussion... Sorsis finally decided to do the exit scam and there is literally nothing any "victim" can do since we are still in the Wild West of crypto. Shit shows such as Betnomi can simply disappear with no consequences... Talk about why regulation of the space will not only come with its disadvantages...

I warned people multiple times about this site, but nobody listened and I even got red tagged (which was later removed by the idiot who was hired and paid by Betnomi). There was much more corruption goign on on the forum, many people got paid here to defend Betnomi and it was their job to talk about other things while serious accusations were going on. Royse was alo involved in this scam, before he started his own scamsite lucybit.

[Betwrong]

this will be a lesson for Betnomi users to play on truly trusted platform sites, at least casinos that are active in their platform campaigns every time. sporting events for example being a partner or sponsor would be great, because it looks like casino sites like that have big money and are not scammers.

It's true, especially when there was some red flags about Betnomi in past, but in general, nobody didn't paid attention to it. They managed to hide contraversies and make good reputation by sponsoring various prediction pools, making some promotions and giveaways.

People didn`t pay attention because they benefited financially, it`s as simple as that really... I am obviously not referring to the forum "newbies" here. There were more than enough red flags, we have pointed this out multiple times already.

What`s shocking (and what could actually lead to a different discussion... Sorsis finally decided to do the exit scam and there is literally nothing any "victim" can do since we are still in the Wild West of crypto. Shit shows such as Betnomi can simply disappear with no consequences... Talk about why regulation of the space will not only come with its disadvantages...

Is it so? Guys, please tell me it can't be true. We are not in some fecking dark web, they can't just disappear taking all the users' money with them. They will be prosecuted, no?

And regarding not paying their employees for three months. Where does this info come from?

And why there's no news about their "exit scam"? It's big news, isn't it?

[Csmiami]

Is it so? Guys, please tell me it can't be true.

Not trying to be mean or cruel or whatevs; but yes, it's true.

We are not in some fecking dark web, they can't just disappear taking all the users' money with them. They will be prosecuted, no?

Under what law? Curaçao? Under what premise; someone reporting at a police station that they have been gambling (illegal in many places) with crypto (illegal in many places) on online casino?

And regarding not paying their employees for three months. Where does this info come from?

Not sure if there's a lot of info about it, but icopress was working for them and AFAIK, that's where this comes from.

And why there's no news about their "exit scam"? It's big news, isn't it?

I mean... it's crypto, it's not like any big international news agency will catch the story of a small crypto casino closing shop...

[Mahdirakib]

And why there's no news about their "exit scam"? It's big news, isn't it?

Believe it or not, Betnomi wasn't so popular and big casino in the crypto gambling world as the way some forum members think about them. They had created a great impression on the forum by spending some marketing funds. Betnomi wasn't a billion or a hundred million dollar company (gambling site) that it will become a hot topic in the crypto gambling world. Anyway, I have created a thread about them one month ago. You should check it out: The story of Betnomi.com (Exit Scam). BTCGOSU has also published a blog post about it.

[bislom]

Betnomi was an exit scam from the beginning. There were manys cam accustions but these stupid paid muppets with high rank defended this scam site, royse and yahoo*** get paid to defend this scam, its their fault also that there are many victims now. You see what happens when you are naive and dont listen

[holydarkness]

Betnomi was an exit scam from the beginning. There were manys cam accustions but these stupid paid muppets with high rank defended this scam site, royse and yahoo*** get paid to defend this scam, its their fault also that there are many victims now. You see what happens when you are naive and dont listen

How does royse get paid to defend them, again? Far as I know, he doesn't even have any business with them, not even as a campaign or competition manager?