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August 14, 2023, 03:24:12 PM
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I just saw the post above on Australian team and I was looking for Ben in the line up. I'm not surprised that he's not on the roster and I'm not sure if there was a fall out between him and the national coach. The management may have accounted all that happened in the NBA including his behavior. They still look decent without him.
Yes. I have never heard any news about Ben Simmons so let's not expect him to join the national team, perhaps he is still healing from his injury, or whatever his reasons are. True, it's still a decent roster and that is why they are the 4th favorite to win this event.

Regarding the Australian roster, there are news about players that will be cut off.

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Although there may be a late twist, with News Corp reporting young guard Dyson Daniels and versatile wing Josh Green could also be at risk of dropping out.
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I doubt they will drop out Josh Green, that dude has a lot of potential and will be a great help on the defensive end. That's the worst decision they will make if take him out.
They have so many players that they are undecided on who will be their starting five. I guess they should just give a chance to those who didn't play in the last FIBA or Olympics.

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August 15, 2023, 03:35:31 AM
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United States had an easy win yesterday against a strong Spanish side in one of the exhibition matches. Jalen Brunson scored 21 points, and US won the match despite Spaniards having the home advantage. This is a good start for the Americans ahead of the FIBA World Cup, which will get started in another 10 days or so. Apart from Brunson, other players also performed well, including Tyrese Haliburton, Brandon Ingram, Austin Reaves and Anthony Edwards. Overall it was a satisfactory performance and should boost the morale of the American players. 

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August 15, 2023, 06:09:24 AM
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United States had an easy win yesterday against a strong Spanish side in one of the exhibition matches. Jalen Brunson scored 21 points, and US won the match despite Spaniards having the home advantage. This is a good start for the Americans ahead of the FIBA World Cup, which will get started in another 10 days or so. Apart from Brunson, other players also performed well, including Tyrese Haliburton, Brandon Ingram, Austin Reaves and Anthony Edwards. Overall it was a satisfactory performance and should boost the morale of the American players. 

An easy win?!? Hahaha. Did you see the game or just saw the result?
This was a hard fought win and Spain could have won this game as well.
They even had the lead at the beginning of the 4th.

Why do you even post a summary of the match when it's obvious you didn't see it at all?

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August 15, 2023, 10:27:16 AM
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Great news. Group A will be more competitive.
It is true that Italy is the hottest team in Group A after defeating both Serbia and Greece in the Aegean Acropolis Tournament, then recently Puerto Rico became a victim too.  Cheesy
But, a confirmation came out that Karl Anthony Towns will be playing for the Dominican Republic.
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FIBA World Cup 2023: Karl-Anthony Towns says 'timing is right' to play for Dominican Republic again
https://www.espn.com/olympics/basketball/story/_/id/38184549/fiba-world-cup-2023-karl-anthony-towns-says-timing-right-play-dominican-republic-again
10 years since he last played for his country so I think the fans there are excited to watch him play and cheer for him.

Now, this will make it harder for Italy to dominate Group A. Philippines will also have a hard time to try and get that crown. IMO, it will be either the Dominican Republic or Italy who will win that group. But it's good, it's not that predictable anymore because of the news and I believe this also increases the odds for the Dominican Republic. I have not checked the outrights yet.

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August 15, 2023, 10:54:54 AM
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Great news. Group A will be more competitive.
It is true that Italy is the hottest team in Group A after defeating both Serbia and Greece in the Aegean Acropolis Tournament, then recently Puerto Rico became a victim too.  Cheesy
But, a confirmation came out that Karl Anthony Towns will be playing for the Dominican Republic.
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FIBA World Cup 2023: Karl-Anthony Towns says 'timing is right' to play for Dominican Republic again
https://www.espn.com/olympics/basketball/story/_/id/38184549/fiba-world-cup-2023-karl-anthony-towns-says-timing-right-play-dominican-republic-again
10 years since he last played for his country so I think the fans there are excited to watch him play and cheer for him.

Now, this will make it harder for Italy to dominate Group A. Philippines will also have a hard time to try and get that crown. IMO, it will be either the Dominican Republic or Italy who will win that group. But it's good, it's not that predictable anymore because of the news and I believe this also increases the odds for the Dominican Republic. I have not checked the outrights yet.

With KAT addition, the impact will be big for Dominican republic not just because he's a NBA star but the size that he's adding to the
team will be an additional weight for both Defense and Offense.

As we know, playing with pride is far different from playing for money, just hoping that he will bring his offensive threats and use his size and
his skills to attack inside and not just shot outside,

we will see competitive National team and like you mentioned it will have that impact to this bracket.
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August 15, 2023, 11:08:26 AM
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Great news. Group A will be more competitive.
It is true that Italy is the hottest team in Group A after defeating both Serbia and Greece in the Aegean Acropolis Tournament, then recently Puerto Rico became a victim too.  Cheesy
But, a confirmation came out that Karl Anthony Towns will be playing for the Dominican Republic.
Quote
FIBA World Cup 2023: Karl-Anthony Towns says 'timing is right' to play for Dominican Republic again
https://www.espn.com/olympics/basketball/story/_/id/38184549/fiba-world-cup-2023-karl-anthony-towns-says-timing-right-play-dominican-republic-again
10 years since he last played for his country so I think the fans there are excited to watch him play and cheer for him.

Now, this will make it harder for Italy to dominate Group A. Philippines will also have a hard time to try and get that crown. IMO, it will be either the Dominican Republic or Italy who will win that group. But it's good, it's not that predictable anymore because of the news and I believe this also increases the odds for the Dominican Republic. I have not checked the outrights yet.

With KAT addition, the impact will be big for Dominican republic not just because he's a NBA star but the size that he's adding to the
team will be an additional weight for both Defense and Offense.

As we know, playing with pride is far different from playing for money, just hoping that he will bring his offensive threats and use his size and
his skills to attack inside and not just shot outside,

we will see competitive National team and like you mentioned it will have that impact to this bracket.

A good center would certainly be a big help for the team. KAT is not only a good center, but he is also one of the NBA superstars, so I'm sure he will be able to use his size to dominate the paint. The Philippines has a big player in Kai Sotto, with a height of 7'2", but he is not at an NBA caliber level yet. He is still young and in the developmental stage. Therefore, KAT could really dominate if he wants to.

This event is significant for the Philippines. With a team that lacks NBA-caliber players, they will need the support of the crowd. I'm pretty sure we will witness a sold-out crowd.

Between the Dominican Republic and Italy, I think Italy would win.

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August 15, 2023, 11:36:29 AM
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This event is significant for the Philippines. With a team that lacks NBA-caliber players, they will need the support of the crowd. I'm pretty sure we will witness a sold-out crowd.
The crowd cheer is going to give some boost but this isn't enough for sure. We probably have an idea of what's going to happen but we have that belief and saying that the ball is round. So, let things happen and we shall see if our national team will be able to make it or not. But the spirit of everyone going with the crowd is that we'll make it, just do it with heart (puso).

Between the Dominican Republic and Italy, I think Italy would win.
Upsets can happen and Italy's roster is interesting though.

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August 15, 2023, 11:53:12 AM
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A good center would certainly be a big help for the team. KAT is not only a good center, but he is also one of the NBA superstars, so I'm sure he will be able to use his size to dominate the paint. The Philippines has a big player in Kai Sotto, with a height of 7'2", but he is not at an NBA caliber level yet. He is still young and in the developmental stage. Therefore, KAT could really dominate if he wants to.

This event is significant for the Philippines. With a team that lacks NBA-caliber players, they will need the support of the crowd. I'm pretty sure we will witness a sold-out crowd.

Dominican Republic is the team that the Philippines has a high percentage of winning but with the addition of Karl Anthony Towns, that possibility turn to very slim. Kai Sotto may contain him for a little while but with his experience in the NBA, KAT would wreck havoc in the paint and event on the perimeter sometime into the game so I'm not expecting anymore that Gilas chalked up a win in group A.
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This event is significant for the Philippines. With a team that lacks NBA-caliber players, they will need the support of the crowd. I'm pretty sure we will witness a sold-out crowd.
The crowd cheer is going to give some boost but this isn't enough for sure. We probably have an idea of what's going to happen but we have that belief and saying that the ball is round. So, let things happen and we shall see if our national team will be able to make it or not. But the spirit of everyone going with the crowd is that we'll make it, just do it with heart (puso).
I hope they have that heart in the games to come, though. The roster has the talent, but what we need is the defense, as we don't have a consistently good defender like Pingris, who has already retired. But let's see, though. I don't want to conclude because Jordan Clarkson is an NBA player and has had a good season with the Jazz. Hopefully, he will be able to carry the team and secure more wins.

Between the Dominican Republic and Italy, I think Italy would win.
Upsets can happen and Italy's roster is interesting though.
If upset would happen, it would nice if Phlippines would win in this bracket.  Smiley


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A good center would certainly be a big help for the team. KAT is not only a good center, but he is also one of the NBA superstars, so I'm sure he will be able to use his size to dominate the paint. The Philippines has a big player in Kai Sotto, with a height of 7'2", but he is not at an NBA caliber level yet. He is still young and in the developmental stage. Therefore, KAT could really dominate if he wants to.

This event is significant for the Philippines. With a team that lacks NBA-caliber players, they will need the support of the crowd. I'm pretty sure we will witness a sold-out crowd.

Dominican Republic is the team that the Philippines has a high percentage of winning but with the addition of Karl Anthony Towns, that possibility turn to very slim. Kai Sotto may contain him for a little while but with his experience in the NBA, KAT would wreck havoc in the paint and event on the perimeter sometime into the game so I'm not expecting anymore that Gilas chalked up a win in group A.

That's the reality: the Philippines' chances are very low compared to the talent of the Dominican Republic; they certainly seem to be the better team. I found some betting odds for the game, but I'm not sure if they're correct. The odds are as follows:

Dominican Republic - 1.2
vs.
Philippines - 4.75

You can check out more details at the provided link: https://www.sportytrader.com/en/odds/dominican-republic-philippines-6258136/

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August 15, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
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This event is significant for the Philippines. With a team that lacks NBA-caliber players, they will need the support of the crowd. I'm pretty sure we will witness a sold-out crowd.
The crowd cheer is going to give some boost but this isn't enough for sure. We probably have an idea of what's going to happen but we have that belief and saying that the ball is round. So, let things happen and we shall see if our national team will be able to make it or not. But the spirit of everyone going with the crowd is that we'll make it, just do it with heart (puso).
I hope they have that heart in the games to come, though. The roster has the talent, but what we need is the defense, as we don't have a consistently good defender like Pingris, who has already retired. But let's see, though. I don't want to conclude because Jordan Clarkson is an NBA player and has had a good season with the Jazz. Hopefully, he will be able to carry the team and secure more wins.
I'll cheer despite that we know that the chance is slim but who knows if there will be a surprise from this roster and even if they're not in the best shape in defense. In offense, they can catch up with that and with the leadership of Clarkson, he'll for sure won't make it easy for their opponents.

Upsets can happen and Italy's roster is interesting though.
If upset would happen, it would nice if Phlippines would win in this bracket.  Smiley
Let's hope so.

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A good center would certainly be a big help for the team. KAT is not only a good center, but he is also one of the NBA superstars, so I'm sure he will be able to use his size to dominate the paint. The Philippines has a big player in Kai Sotto, with a height of 7'2", but he is not at an NBA caliber level yet. He is still young and in the developmental stage. Therefore, KAT could really dominate if he wants to.

This event is significant for the Philippines. With a team that lacks NBA-caliber players, they will need the support of the crowd. I'm pretty sure we will witness a sold-out crowd.

Dominican Republic is the team that the Philippines has a high percentage of winning but with the addition of Karl Anthony Towns, that possibility turn to very slim. Kai Sotto may contain him for a little while but with his experience in the NBA, KAT would wreck havoc in the paint and event on the perimeter sometime into the game so I'm not expecting anymore that Gilas chalked up a win in group A.

That's the reality: the Philippines' chances are very low compared to the talent of the Dominican Republic; they certainly seem to be the better team. I found some betting odds for the game, but I'm not sure if they're correct. The odds are as follows:

Dominican Republic - 1.2
vs.
Philippines - 4.75

You can check out more details at the provided link: https://www.sportytrader.com/en/odds/dominican-republic-philippines-6258136/

Nice odds, though. I wouldn't hesitate to bet on the Philippines to win, as they are on their home court and will surely receive significant support from the crowd. The basis for those betting odds was probably their current standing, but in an event like this, home court advantage is a big advantage, so I'm all in with that.

Also, I'm thinking of betting on the spread too. It's currently +9.5, and I believe the home team is undervalued here.

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Nice odds, though. I wouldn't hesitate to bet on the Philippines to win, as they are on their home court and will surely receive significant support from the crowd. The basis for those betting odds was probably their current standing, but in an event like this, home court advantage is a big advantage, so I'm all in with that.

Also, I'm thinking of betting on the spread too. It's currently +9.5, and I believe the home team is undervalued here.

I think those odds are pretty accurate and on point. I would wonder if it will be a game around the 10 point gap, the odds makers did a good job there.
Having KAT helps the Dominicans of course, only thing speaking for PH here is the home court advantage and a basketball love crowd that will cheer for them.

Unfortunately excitement doesn't beat talent so it a steep mountain to climb if they want to win. Everything is possible but they must have a very good day to beat even a just ok Dominican team.

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Nice odds, though. I wouldn't hesitate to bet on the Philippines to win, as they are on their home court and will surely receive significant support from the crowd. The basis for those betting odds was probably their current standing, but in an event like this, home court advantage is a big advantage, so I'm all in with that.

Also, I'm thinking of betting on the spread too. It's currently +9.5, and I believe the home team is undervalued here.

I think those odds are pretty accurate and on point. I would wonder if it will be a game around the 10 point gap, the odds makers did a good job there.
Having KAT helps the Dominicans of course, only thing speaking for PH here is the home court advantage and a basketball love crowd that will cheer for them.

Unfortunately excitement doesn't beat talent so it a steep mountain to climb if they want to win. Everything is possible but they must have a very good day to beat even a just ok Dominican team.


I did further research after my previous post and discovered that the Dominican Republic is a stronger team this year. Not only will they have KAT, but they also have Al Horford as another big man. In addition, Chris Duarte, who is an NBA player, is part of the team.

Here's another interesting story: it's the Dominican Republic that prevented Argentina from qualifying for the FIBA World Cup.

Argentina men’s basketball team fails to qualify for FIBA World Cup

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Argentina, the world’s fourth-ranked men’s basketball nation, failed to qualify for this summer’s 32-team FIBA World Cup and will miss the quadrennial world championship for the first time since 1982.

Argentina, runner-up to Spain at the last worlds in 2019, was eliminated with a home loss to the Dominican Republic in its 12th and final game of North and South American qualifying on Sunday.


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August 16, 2023, 09:10:26 AM
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Between the Dominican Republic and Italy, I think Italy would win.
Upsets can happen and Italy's roster is interesting though.
True. Italy actually surprised me with their recent win streak. But some are saying it is because it's just a friendly game, but we will never know.
For me, it will be a tough Group. The Philippines will also try to do their best and win this group to advance to the next round.

If upset would happen, it would nice if Phlippines would win in this bracket.  Smiley
And there you go. Grin
My neighbors here keep on telling me the Philippines don't have any chance to win that group but I am against them. I really want them to see that they can also be a competitive team by using their speed and skills.

Also, I'm thinking of betting on the spread too. It's currently +9.5, and I believe the home team is undervalued here.
Taking both? Hmm, that's a good strategy and I think I will tail that. A little bit of a bet for the high risk money line and a bigger amount for the +9 spread. That way you are both being supportive of your country and a gambler too.  Cheesy

It's getting near. 9 more days. Let's just enjoy the friendlies and make some good analysis.

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August 16, 2023, 09:45:38 AM
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Nice odds, though. I wouldn't hesitate to bet on the Philippines to win, as they are on their home court and will surely receive significant support from the crowd. The basis for those betting odds was probably their current standing, but in an event like this, home court advantage is a big advantage, so I'm all in with that.

Also, I'm thinking of betting on the spread too. It's currently +9.5, and I believe the home team is undervalued here.

I think those odds are pretty accurate and on point. I would wonder if it will be a game around the 10 point gap, the odds makers did a good job there.
Having KAT helps the Dominicans of course, only thing speaking for PH here is the home court advantage and a basketball love crowd that will cheer for them.

Unfortunately excitement doesn't beat talent so it a steep mountain to climb if they want to win. Everything is possible but they must have a very good day to beat even a just ok Dominican team.


I did further research after my previous post and discovered that the Dominican Republic is a stronger team this year. Not only will they have KAT, but they also have Al Horford as another big man. In addition, Chris Duarte, who is an NBA player, is part of the team.

Here's another interesting story: it's the Dominican Republic that prevented Argentina from qualifying for the FIBA World Cup.

Argentina men’s basketball team fails to qualify for FIBA World Cup

Quote
Argentina, the world’s fourth-ranked men’s basketball nation, failed to qualify for this summer’s 32-team FIBA World Cup and will miss the quadrennial world championship for the first time since 1982.

Argentina, runner-up to Spain at the last worlds in 2019, was eliminated with a home loss to the Dominican Republic in its 12th and final game of North and South American qualifying on Sunday.



Wow, that's an additional fact that needed to consider before placing your bet, though there are gamblers who also a fan that will disregard anything just to support the team they believe that have a chance to win or to cover the handicap, personally, I will watch and maybe just maybe will place some bet during the live game, might need to see how the performances of each team before taking that risk as it's really tough to assess if you will going to base your pick with the stats and not with the actual performance of the whole squad.

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August 16, 2023, 11:51:43 AM
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If upset would happen, it would nice if Phlippines would win in this bracket.  Smiley
And there you go. Grin
My neighbors here keep on telling me the Philippines don't have any chance to win that group but I am against them. I really want them to see that they can also be a competitive team by using their speed and skills.


The chance of an upset happening is very slim, so it's indeed a gamble if we bet on the Philippines. However, since I just want to enjoy watching the game and support them at the same time, maybe I'll consider following my heart rather than my head. LOL... In this situation, it's hard not to be biased, as the FIBA World Cup doesn't happen every year. Let's see, maybe it will pay off, or maybe not—who cares?

By the way, Philippines has not yet revealed their final 12,
 
SBP to reveal Gilas Pilipinas Final 12 on August 23

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August 16, 2023, 12:47:39 PM
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If upset would happen, it would nice if Phlippines would win in this bracket.  Smiley
And there you go. Grin
My neighbors here keep on telling me the Philippines don't have any chance to win that group but I am against them. I really want them to see that they can also be a competitive team by using their speed and skills.


The chance of an upset happening is very slim, so it's indeed a gamble if we bet on the Philippines. However, since I just want to enjoy watching the game and support them at the same time, maybe I'll consider following my heart rather than my head. LOL... In this situation, it's hard not to be biased, as the FIBA World Cup doesn't happen every year. Let's see, maybe it will pay off, or maybe not—who cares?

By the way, Philippines has not yet revealed their final 12,
 
SBP to reveal Gilas Pilipinas Final 12 on August 23


They are making an effort to ensure they have the best players to represent the country, but I have doubts. Politics might still influence the selection process, with players who have connections being given the opportunity to play. I would love to be proven wrong, but that's the scenario I foresee. Anyway, let's not dwell on that.

If we're being realistic and evaluating the team's chances within the same bracket, the Philippines probably has the lowest chance. However, the fact that we have the home court advantage is a significant factor to consider, and it works in our favor.

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August 16, 2023, 02:27:33 PM
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By the way, Philippines has not yet revealed their final 12,
 
SBP to reveal Gilas Pilipinas Final 12 on August 23
I've seen the news that 2 players are being debated on who will play for the Philippines team. I am not sure though if it's just fake news or not. Abando and Ravena. Or both are playing? Sorry, I am not updated with their roster.

Here is Lithuania's roster.
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https://twitter.com/FIBAWC/status/1691382519126499328?s=20
These guys.
The memory of this team defeating Team USA back in the Olympics in 2004 is still fresh in my head. They cannot mess with this team as they can be lethal. Mostly known for big guys who can shoot threes with high percentages, I think Valanciunas is the biggest example of that.

Anyway, have you guys seen the commercial of FIBA? It keeps on popping out in social media applications.
Luka, Clarkson, and Watanabe as the artists.
https://twitter.com/FIBAWC/status/1690968265609109504?s=20

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August 16, 2023, 03:14:35 PM
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By the way, Philippines has not yet revealed their final 12,
 
SBP to reveal Gilas Pilipinas Final 12 on August 23
I've seen the news that 2 players are being debated on who will play for the Philippines team. I am not sure though if it's just fake news or not. Abando and Ravena. Or both are playing? Sorry, I am not updated with their roster.


That's not fake news; it's just that one of the famous sports announcers chose Ravena over Abando to be part of the final 12 because he believes that Ravena has more experience compared to Abando. However, the crowd reacted, as they believe Abando deserves it more than Ravena. So, it's quite intriguing to see who will make it to the final 12.

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