FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 - Betting and Discussions

[Fredomago]

Still, having NBA players in the team alone is not sufficient to win matches. And that will be obvious in 2 weeks or so, when this tournament gets going.

Yeah right, having an NBA player in your squad doesn't guarantee you to win a game, maybe they can help but still a team efforts and good chemistries among the players, there are instances that even top caliber squad from all compose NBA stars losses during world cup the very reason why US team needs to have both dream team and redeem team, both to secure that team US would get the title.

Let see what would be the performances of those teams that will compete and who will dominate this league.

[danherbias07]

Still, having NBA players in the team alone is not sufficient to win matches. And that will be obvious in 2 weeks or so, when this tournament gets going.

Yeah right, having an NBA player in your squad doesn't guarantee you to win a game, maybe they can help but still a team efforts and good chemistries among the players, there are instances that even top caliber squad from all compose NBA stars losses during world cup the very reason why US team needs to have both dream team and redeem team, both to secure that team US would get the title.

Let see what would be the performances of those teams that will compete and who will dominate this league.

1 more week actually. I think the friendly games served its purpose and that is to build chemistry with their team and I am sure it worked out just fine. We can see teams without NBA players that had been showing some talents and that's the most scary of all especially when their will to win is high.

I find that NBA players from different countries always play better when they are playing for their country in international leagues like this. I remember in EuroBasket when Lauri Markkanen was playing at a different level showcasing his skills on both the offensive and defensive end for Finland. That was when I became a fan of that dude. Not on his Cavaliers days.  
Sure, that is true, there's no guarantee they can win but it's an addition to boost their teammates' confidence.

[livingfree]

Still, having NBA players in the team alone is not sufficient to win matches. And that will be obvious in 2 weeks or so, when this tournament gets going.

Yeah right, having an NBA player in your squad doesn't guarantee you to win a game, maybe they can help but still a team efforts and good chemistries among the players, there are instances that even top caliber squad from all compose NBA stars losses during world cup the very reason why US team needs to have both dream team and redeem team, both to secure that team US would get the title.

Let see what would be the performances of those teams that will compete and who will dominate this league.

That's true nowadays.

Even before, there have been upsets with the Team USA from other teams like Argentina, Spain and others. It gives a team a boost of confidence because someone from NBA really plays on a different level.

But aside from that, if the whole team is lousy and don't contribute a lot to the team on this FIBA World Cup then having one on the side is not really going to be enough to make it.

[Hypnosis00]

Still, having NBA players in the team alone is not sufficient to win matches. And that will be obvious in 2 weeks or so, when this tournament gets going.

Yeah right, having an NBA player in your squad doesn't guarantee you to win a game, maybe they can help but still a team efforts and good chemistries among the players, there are instances that even top caliber squad from all compose NBA stars losses during world cup the very reason why US team needs to have both dream team and redeem team, both to secure that team US would get the title.

Let see what would be the performances of those teams that will compete and who will dominate this league.

That's true nowadays.

Even before, there have been upsets with the Team USA from other teams like Argentina, Spain and others. It gives a team a boost of confidence because someone from NBA really plays on a different level.

But aside from that, if the whole team is lousy and don't contribute a lot to the team on this FIBA World Cup then having one on the side is not really going to be enough to make it.

NBA and FIBA are quite distinct, with FIBA being a highly physical game where teams focus solely on winning for their country without concern for the future. When a European team wins, it's not surprising due to their hard-playing style, which characterizes their league as very physical. The players representing the USA aren't necessarily the best in the NBA. Despite their impressive performance in tune-up games, I remain skeptical about their ability to dominate in the actual competition.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

This weekend the German team will test against Greece and tomorrow vs team USA.

Exited for our team, they looked really solid in the past games I must say. Some German youtubers have high expectations for some really and I slowly get hyped as well. 

I expected Schröder and the Wagner bros to deliver but Daniel Theiss, even though not playing for the Pacers for a while now, came up big in the past test matches. He looks like a second coming of MJ, hahaha.

Tomorrow's game with the US will be a good indicator of what we can expect from them this world cup. If we los by let's say 10-15 points ( maybe less ) I think this would be a success.

[Fredomago]

Still, having NBA players in the team alone is not sufficient to win matches. And that will be obvious in 2 weeks or so, when this tournament gets going.

Yeah right, having an NBA player in your squad doesn't guarantee you to win a game, maybe they can help but still a team efforts and good chemistries among the players, there are instances that even top caliber squad from all compose NBA stars losses during world cup the very reason why US team needs to have both dream team and redeem team, both to secure that team US would get the title.

Let see what would be the performances of those teams that will compete and who will dominate this league.

1 more week actually. I think the friendly games served its purpose and that is to build chemistry with their team and I am sure it worked out just fine. We can see teams without NBA players that had been showing some talents and that's the most scary of all especially when their will to win is high.

I find that NBA players from different countries always play better when they are playing for their country in international leagues like this. I remember in EuroBasket when Lauri Markkanen was playing at a different level showcasing his skills on both the offensive and defensive end for Finland. That was when I became a fan of that dude. Not on his Cavaliers days.  
Sure, that is true, there's no guarantee they can win but it's an addition to boost their teammates' confidence.

Yup and I hope they will serve the purpose and not become the main attractions as even their teammates will watch on them playing and be shy to take the ball and play their best too. NBA star or player adds up to boost the team and with them there's pressure from the competing side knowing that they've got the capabilities to take a high percentage shots.

A good threat mostly from the offence, especially when they are playing inside the country that they are representing, pride and the appreciation from the home crowd add more boost for the team entirely.

[Ziskinberg]

This weekend the German team will test against Greece and tomorrow vs team USA.

Exited for our team, they looked really solid in the past games I must say. Some German youtubers have high expectations for some really and I slowly get hyped as well. 

I expected Schröder and the Wagner bros to deliver but Daniel Theiss, even though not playing for the Pacers for a while now, came up big in the past test matches. He looks like a second coming of MJ, hahaha.

Congratulations to you and your team for winning the game against Greece. Although I'm not particularly invested in following other teams aside from our own, given the current events, it seems that Germany is a quite solid team in FIBA.

Germany got the win over Greece but may have lost Hollatz

Germany prevailed over Greece 84-71 getting an easy prep win with Dennis Schroder (15 p.) and Franz Wagner (14 p.) leading the way again.

As expected Schroder played well leading the team, my question is, is he the team captain of the team?

[AHOYBRAUSE]

This weekend the German team will test against Greece and tomorrow vs team USA.

Exited for our team, they looked really solid in the past games I must say. Some German youtubers have high expectations for some really and I slowly get hyped as well. 

I expected Schröder and the Wagner bros to deliver but Daniel Theiss, even though not playing for the Pacers for a while now, came up big in the past test matches. He looks like a second coming of MJ, hahaha.

Congratulations to you and your team for winning the game against Greece. Although I'm not particularly invested in following other teams aside from our own, given the current events, it seems that Germany is a quite solid team in FIBA.

Germany got the win over Greece but may have lost Hollatz

Germany prevailed over Greece 84-71 getting an easy prep win with Dennis Schroder (15 p.) and Franz Wagner (14 p.) leading the way again.

As expected Schroder played well leading the team, my question is, is he the team captain of the team?

Yeah it was a solid win on Saturday, the real test is coming today though. The German i team is a 15 point underdog vs team USA. Of course they have the better players, but I think we are the better team since the German team has been playing together for a while now. Of course the undeniable talent is hard to beat, but maybe teams that play good team basketball can stick with them and get some close games.

And yes, Dennis is the captain of the team. The coach made him captain last year before the eurobasket tournament, and he played it like a real captain as well getting in the all tournament first team.

This weekend are a lot of nice games. Yesterday we saw Spain vs the Dominican Republic (which before beat Canada) , France lost vs Australia, and so on. Plenty of good stuff to watch for people that love basketball!

[danherbias07]

This weekend the German team will test against Greece and tomorrow vs team USA.

Exited for our team, they looked really solid in the past games I must say. Some German youtubers have high expectations for some really and I slowly get hyped as well. 

I expected Schröder and the Wagner bros to deliver but Daniel Theiss, even though not playing for the Pacers for a while now, came up big in the past test matches. He looks like a second coming of MJ, hahaha.

Congratulations to you and your team for winning the game against Greece. Although I'm not particularly invested in following other teams aside from our own, given the current events, it seems that Germany is a quite solid team in FIBA.

Germany got the win over Greece but may have lost Hollatz

Germany prevailed over Greece 84-71 getting an easy prep win with Dennis Schroder (15 p.) and Franz Wagner (14 p.) leading the way again.

As expected Schroder played well leading the team, my question is, is he the team captain of the team?

Yeah it was a solid win on Saturday, the real test is coming today though. The German i team is a 15 point underdog vs team USA. Of course they have the better players, but I think we are the better team since the German team has been playing together for a while now. Of course the undeniable talent is hard to beat, but maybe teams that play good team basketball can stick with them and get some close games.

And yes, Dennis is the captain of the team. The coach made him captain last year before the eurobasket tournament, and he played it like a real captain as well getting in the all tournament first team.

This weekend are a lot of nice games. Yesterday we saw Spain vs the Dominican Republic (which before beat Canada) , France lost vs Australia, and so on. Plenty of good stuff to watch for people that love basketball!

Darn it! It's 12 AM at my time and I am sleeping on that schedule. I would really love to witness this as this is also the last friendly game of Team USA.
Germany is one of my favorites too so I'd really like to watch them play and I doubt they will post a full replay of that match.
The Wagner brothers, the rising stars of the NBA league, Germany is surely strong and they may be the ones who also have a big chance to win against Team USA who is the favorite today.

Upon checking the odds. The Germans are the heavy underdog.
@7.60 if they win or for those who want to make sure, you can take the +14.5.

[livingfree]

That's true nowadays.

Even before, there have been upsets with the Team USA from other teams like Argentina, Spain and others. It gives a team a boost of confidence because someone from NBA really plays on a different level.

But aside from that, if the whole team is lousy and don't contribute a lot to the team on this FIBA World Cup then having one on the side is not really going to be enough to make it.

NBA and FIBA are quite distinct, with FIBA being a highly physical game where teams focus solely on winning for their country without concern for the future. When a European team wins, it's not surprising due to their hard-playing style, which characterizes their league as very physical. The players representing the USA aren't necessarily the best in the NBA. Despite their impressive performance in tune-up games, I remain skeptical about their ability to dominate in the actual competition.

I don't think so that it's like that for those NBA players that will play for FIBA. Most of them are careful and that's why you've said that Team USA doesn't have their best.

And that is because they still think of the future at least for those that have played for FIBA before and then begged off to play for their national team.

Maybe that's just me that doesn't really see that much difference on FIBA and NBA in terms of physicality because of them are.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Darn it! It's 12 AM at my time and I am sleeping on that schedule. I would really love to witness this as this is also the last friendly game of Team USA.
Germany is one of my favorites too so I'd really like to watch them play and I doubt they will post a full replay of that match.
The Wagner brothers, the rising stars of the NBA league, Germany is surely strong and they may be the ones who also have a big chance to win against Team USA who is the favorite today.

Upon checking the odds. The Germans are the heavy underdog.
@7.60 if they win or for those who want to make sure, you can take the +14.5.

Damn, Germany is looking sharp. I was honestly thinking to bet on them when the odds went to around 9. I then decided to just make a small wager on Germany +16,5 points.

And right now, with 4min to go in the 4th Germany is up 69:55.  

That's a great motivational boost for them, no matter if they end up losing this game. They showed they can compete, and that's the most important part.

[Fredomago]

That's true nowadays.

Even before, there have been upsets with the Team USA from other teams like Argentina, Spain and others. It gives a team a boost of confidence because someone from NBA really plays on a different level.

But aside from that, if the whole team is lousy and don't contribute a lot to the team on this FIBA World Cup then having one on the side is not really going to be enough to make it.

NBA and FIBA are quite distinct, with FIBA being a highly physical game where teams focus solely on winning for their country without concern for the future. When a European team wins, it's not surprising due to their hard-playing style, which characterizes their league as very physical. The players representing the USA aren't necessarily the best in the NBA. Despite their impressive performance in tune-up games, I remain skeptical about their ability to dominate in the actual competition.

I don't think so that it's like that for those NBA players that will play for FIBA. Most of them are careful and that's why you've said that Team USA doesn't have their best.

And that is because they still think of the future at least for those that have played for FIBA before and then begged off to play for their national team.

Maybe that's just me that doesn't really see that much difference on FIBA and NBA in terms of physicality because of them are.

Yup, for sure those players who begged are concern with their future not against with those players but it's just being practical or there are some other factors that leads them to decide not to play and represent their country, for those who will compete they are bringing the pride of their nationalities and playing hard for the country might give them that inspiration to do well.

All will be witness during the competition and for sure the winner will be the fans who love supporting their nationals and those super stars that will participate during the tournament.

[danherbias07]

Damn, Germany is looking sharp. I was honestly thinking to bet on them when the odds went to around 9. I then decided to just make a small wager on Germany +16,5 points.

And right now, with 4min to go in the 4th Germany is up 69:55.  

That's a great motivational boost for them, no matter if they end up losing this game. They showed they can compete, and that's the most important part.

I just watched the highlights instead. It was a competitive game. All those who took the spreads at +14.5 is still a winner. It could've been better though if they can protect that big lead that they worked so hard to achieve. But still, this shows that the USA can be beaten. They sure have a lot of young talents but so are the other countries just like how the Germans showed it. Correct, this is a boost to the confidence of the other countries that somehow they have a chance even if they are against the number 1 favorite.

So that's the last game for Team USA. Looking at the schedules, I think that's also the last friendly game for Team Germany. 4 more days.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Damn, Germany is looking sharp. I was honestly thinking to bet on them when the odds went to around 9. I then decided to just make a small wager on Germany +16,5 points.

And right now, with 4min to go in the 4th Germany is up 69:55.  

That's a great motivational boost for them, no matter if they end up losing this game. They showed they can compete, and that's the most important part.

I just watched the highlights instead. It was a competitive game. All those who took the spreads at +14.5 is still a winner. It could've been better though if they can protect that big lead that they worked so hard to achieve. But still, this shows that the USA can be beaten. They sure have a lot of young talents but so are the other countries just like how the Germans showed it. Correct, this is a boost to the confidence of the other countries that somehow they have a chance even if they are against the number 1 favorite.

So that's the last game for Team USA. Looking at the schedules, I think that's also the last friendly game for Team Germany. 4 more days.

Yeah, the game was insane.
I couldn't believe it when we had that big lead, but as I write here, I still thought we might lose.
Since it was only an exhibition I think they lost focus a bit and let the US come back to easy and too quick. A couple of back to back 3s and it's an open game again.
What I didn't like is how the US were celebrating after that match, like they achieved anything.
What I liked even less was the unnecessary dunk made by Austin Reaves 8 seconds before the end. There was no defender in sight, they are leading by 6, normally you just run out the clock, But not the US, they want to humiliate the opponent, even if it's just an exhibition.
Especially Austin Reaves should not do that, he was asking to play for team Germany and they had negotiations about that, and when the US came knocking he quickly changed his mind. Under normal conditions he would never play for the US team, but with no big names playing they even take him on. 

Anyway, for the moment I see the chances of winning the cup only at 40-50% for the US team. I think the odds are 1,7 for them meaning odds makers think there is a 58.82% probability for them to win.

If they face a strong team like France and Spain for example, that has a good day, the US will be in trouble.

[Ziskinberg]

The Philippines vs. Mexico game is currently being played; unfortunately, there's no live streaming available for this game. It appears to be a closed-door game once again.

From what I can gather from the live stream box score, the first half has already concluded, and the score is tied at 51-51 between the Philippines and Mexico.

Hopefully, the Philippines will win this one after the disappointing loss to Montenegro.

[jakelyson]

The Philippines vs. Mexico game is currently being played; unfortunately, there's no live streaming available for this game. It appears to be a closed-door game once again.

From what I can gather from the live stream box score, the first half has already concluded, and the score is tied at 51-51 between the Philippines and Mexico.

Hopefully, the Philippines will win this one after the disappointing loss to Montenegro.

Yeah, it is currently tied at the half. It is a good sign. Philippines needs a win to boost their confidence going to the FIBA world in a few days.

I have a bet on that match, but I think Stake has suspended the line. The score is not updating on their site.

If you see any live stream, please let me know, I very much want to watch the game even if it is only the second half.

There is also a friendly game between Brazil and Serbia. Serbia is a heavy favorite in this match up and I think my bet on them is safe. They are now ahead by 7 points.

Damn, Germany is looking sharp. I was honestly thinking to bet on them when the odds went to around 9. I then decided to just make a small wager on Germany +16,5 points.

And right now, with 4min to go in the 4th Germany is up 69:55. 

That's a great motivational boost for them, no matter if they end up losing this game. They showed they can compete, and that's the most important part.

I just watched the highlights instead. It was a competitive game. All those who took the spreads at +14.5 is still a winner. It could've been better though if they can protect that big lead that they worked so hard to achieve. But still, this shows that the USA can be beaten. They sure have a lot of young talents but so are the other countries just like how the Germans showed it. Correct, this is a boost to the confidence of the other countries that somehow they have a chance even if they are against the number 1 favorite.

So that's the last game for Team USA. Looking at the schedules, I think that's also the last friendly game for Team Germany. 4 more days.

Since the advent of international players entering the NBA, international competition has gotten better and better. USA cannot say anymore that they dominate the sports of basketball. European countries can compete in equal grounds with USA in international competitions nowadays.

Hopefully someday, I can say the same with Asian countries. Asians are slowly getting taller and more athletic. And there are some asians getting in NBA so maybe in few more years we will be able to compete competitively against the giants of basketball.

[stadus]

Hopefully, the Philippines will win this one after the disappointing loss to Montenegro.

This game is quite close at the moment, giving the Philippines a chance to win. Even though Mexico is currently in the lead, it's still too early to draw conclusions. We have the 4th quarter ahead, in case Mexico maintains their lead through the 3rd quarter. Betting on the Philippines in live betting is a good idea, as the odds are likely to be very attractive.

[Viscore]

Hopefully, the Philippines will win this one after the disappointing loss to Montenegro.

This game is quite close at the moment, giving the Philippines a chance to win. Even though Mexico is currently in the lead, it's still too early to draw conclusions. We have the 4th quarter ahead, in case Mexico maintains their lead through the 3rd quarter. Betting on the Philippines in live betting is a good idea, as the odds are likely to be very attractive.

Unfortunately, Gilas fell short against the mighty Mexico, with a final score of 84-77. However, I believe it's not a major setback as Jordan Clarkson did not participate in that game. He's their best player who was absent, so we can still appreciate the effort of the local players in providing strong competition against a good team.

About the news on Clarkson not playing ; Clarkson, Parks, Thirdy not in Gilas lineup for final tuneup vs Mexico

And, if you are intersted to check the boxscore, you can see it here ; https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=690790293083074&set=a.565507758944662

[jakelyson]

And, if you are intersted to check the boxscore, you can see it here ; https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=690790293083074&set=a.565507758944662

Good score distribution. This is what they need. Involve everyone and let everyone get a chance to score and contribute to the team. Hopefully, even if Clarkson is inside the court, the scoring will not be too focused on him. They need to distribute the ball to prevent the defenders from focusing on Clarkson and limiting him. But with this, I think they are on the right track. I have doubts about Coach Chot before, but I think he is getting the system right for the FIBA World Cup.

I am now excited to see the final 12. I think they are now ready to select the final 12.  Whoever they select to represent the Philippines for the FIBA World Cup, I am sure they have the best players that fit the system they are running.

Unfortunately, Gilas fell short against the mighty Mexico, with a final score of 84-77. However, I believe it's not a major setback as Jordan Clarkson did not participate in that game. He's their best player who was absent, so we can still appreciate the effort of the local players in providing strong competition against a good team.

That is alright. It is a tune-up game. It is better that way so they can see what they need to fix going into the FIBA World Cup. I am sure if Clarkson played, they have won the game, but they will not see the flaws in their system.

[YuginKadoya]

Jamal Murray begged off to Canada's national team for the FIBA world cup.
(https://www.rappler.com/sports/fiba/denver-nuggets-star-jamal-murray-not-play-canada-2023-world-cup/)

I have seen that on the news surely because of the grueling game in the NBA championship both Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray can not play for the FIBA I guess the Denver Nuggets also prohibited them from playing aswell so that was it for sure Jamal Murray will not play for Canada and Nikola Jokic is not playing for Serbia,

Exactly, that's why the crowd is upset when the Dean chooses Ravena. Not everyone is aware of their respective roles in basketball; they only compare their overall performance in their respective teams, and it's pretty obvious that Abando has performed well, given that his team has won the championship as well.

Additionally, since Abando has not played yet, I think he deserves to be given a chance. New faces in the game might bring new results to the biggest game of our Gilas Pilipinas.

For me, Rhenz Abando is an upgrade over Kiefer Ravena, well for sure Rhenz Abando is new to the Philippine team so he needs to be ready and practice now because in 1 more day the Philippines will be having their 1st game against the Dominican Republic which will be on August 25, so it is really an interesting game for sure but surely Rhenz Abando would need to practice now for their chemistry to be up and ready,

The Philippines vs. Mexico game is currently being played; unfortunately, there's no live streaming available for this game. It appears to be a closed-door game once again.

From what I can gather from the live stream box score, the first half has already concluded, and the score is tied at 51-51 between the Philippines and Mexico.

Hopefully, the Philippines will win this one after the disappointing loss to Montenegro.

The final score was 84 - 77 and it was a Mexico win, but Jordan Clarkson didn't play in this game while Mexico are all shooters for sure Kai Sotto did play and Ray Parks did not again so he is out in the Philippines team, for sure the final 12 for the Philippines is still not determined yet but it will after the 1st real game starts

And breaking news now Karl Anthony Towns and the Dominican Republic are in the Philippines now so they can rest for a bit and then practice for the game that will be on Philippine Arena Bocaue Bulacan on August 25,