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August 23, 2023, 10:21:03 AM
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Had recently found out basketball is biggest sport to the country of the Philippines so hosting something like this is very important and the article linked from @Baofeng goes to show it to be true.
If the government can suspend work and schools for the metro area in Manila making it basically a national holiday says it all.
Didn't realize Jordan Clarkson was representing the Philippines. Joining Kai Sato as ambassadors of the country for the NBA players association. Very nice!

That's true, they have second oldest basketball league in the world, behind the NBA, and it is aptly called PBA (Philippine Basketball Association). And if we are waiting for a father duo in the NBA like Lebron and his son, the PBA had done it before, with their own PBA legend Robert Jaworski and his son playing with the same team for many years.

So just imagine that they really love that sports and you can find a basketball court in their streets. They even have one of the best murals painted and dedicated to Kobe Bryant when he died as he used to visit Manila several times.

Yes, Clarkson is going to represent the Philippines, I'm sure this is not his first time though as he had played before for the Gilas - the national team of the Philippines. And together with Kai Sotto, perhaps the Philippines can offer a better competition as they host the FIBA for this year.

I don't wan't to disappoint you but calling the PBA, or even NBA the oldest leagues in the world is such a long shot, I had to comment here.

Just a quick look at google and you see countless other leagues that war founded and running WAY before even the NBA.

Even we German, during world war 2,  had a league/championship in Germany already. Established leagues in Italy and Spain existed in the 1920s.
I know basketball is super popular in PH, I even played on the streets several times on well taken care off street-ball courts in Manila when I did some travelling, so don't get me wrong.  Kiss



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August 23, 2023, 10:25:07 AM
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Had recently found out basketball is biggest sport to the country of the Philippines so hosting something like this is very important and the article linked from @Baofeng goes to show it to be true.
If the government can suspend work and schools for the metro area in Manila making it basically a national holiday says it all.
Didn't realize Jordan Clarkson was representing the Philippines. Joining Kai Sato as ambassadors of the country for the NBA players association. Very nice!

That's true, they have second oldest basketball league in the world, behind the NBA, and it is aptly called PBA (Philippine Basketball Association). And if we are waiting for a father duo in the NBA like Lebron and his son, the PBA had done it before, with their own PBA legend Robert Jaworski and his son playing with the same team for many years.

So just imagine that they really love that sports and you can find a basketball court in their streets. They even have one of the best murals painted and dedicated to Kobe Bryant when he died as he used to visit Manila several times.

Yes, Clarkson is going to represent the Philippines, I'm sure this is not his first time though as he had played before for the Gilas - the national team of the Philippines. And together with Kai Sotto, perhaps the Philippines can offer a better competition as they host the FIBA for this year.

I don't wan't to disappoint you but calling the PBA, or even NBA the oldest leagues in the world is such a long shot, I had to comment here.

Just a quick look at google and you see countless other leagues that war founded and running WAY before even the NBA.

Even we German, during world war 2,  had a league/championship in Germany already. Established leagues in Italy and Spain existed in the 1920s.
I know basketball is super popular in PH, I even played on the streets several times on well taken care off street-ball courts in Manila when I did some travelling, so don't get me wrong.  Kiss

I understand you mate, but if I will add, the PH basketball could have been established by the American itself and that's why it become so popular when they left the country after WWII and then established themselves their own league to the likes of NBA.

Of course that is debatable as you have said as there could be other leagues way before the NBA but it was not recognized though. As compare to the American way of playing as they have been dominating this sports until everyone catches up with them and so they have to come up with the NBA team, the Dream Team in the Olympics.

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August 23, 2023, 02:40:04 PM
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unfortunately, there's no live streaming available for this game. It appears to be a closed-door game once again.
Was it for most of the teams that are having tune up games that there's no way to watch a stream? I think there's a definite reason why they're keeping it closed doors so that these practice or tune up games are well protected and kept private in preparation for their actual games soon.

These teams are trying to figure out their playing styles, team chemistry and looking for their bad habits. So they are not exposing their games to the public. Otherwise, the rest of the teams especially their team group mates will have their own staff assessing it and will identify their strengths and weaknesses.

Anyways, just two more days before the official start. I'm looking forward to the opening game between betting favorites Australia against Finland. Looking forward to Lauri Markkanen and his gang pulling an upset against the Aussies who will compete with a lot of NBA players.

Finland is a huge underdog with odds of 5.25 and an Asian Handicap of +9.5. Taking the moneyline odds is quite attractive if you truly believe that an upset could happen here. Although Australia boasts many NBA players, this is a world cup, and every game matters. Chemistry will play a significant role in this match.

Personally, I would consider betting live, as I have a feeling that Finland might be competitive in the early quarters but could falter in the second half. So, I'm considering either -5.5 or the moneyline if the odds are favorable for Australia.

https://basketballsphere.com/en/finland-vs-australia-analysis-and-prediction-aug-25-2023/



By the way, @AHOYBRAUSE and btc_angela, nice conversation you have there. It clearly shows that you really know about the history of basketball in your country.
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August 23, 2023, 05:30:35 PM
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@blockman - Lol, mate, just a couple of hundreds of dollars nothing big  Grin hehehhe.
Haha! Mate, you're just humble.  Tongue

I guess everyone has been setup already including this news,
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MANILA, Philippines — President Marcos has suspended government work and public school classes in Metro Manila and Bulacan on Aug. 25 to support efforts aimed at ensuring the successful opening of this year’s FIBA Basketball World Cup.

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2023/08/17/2289293/government-work-classes-metro-manila-bulacan-suspended-august-25-2023
That's better so that the traffic won't be that much for everyone who's going to watch and support the live games. It's gonna be a traffic jam if it wasn't declared as a holiday for that day and it's gonna be another long weekend for us.

Yeah, I think getting his autograph will be allowed. Grin A very rare opportunity and I might take advantage of those chances to see most of the USA team as possible because once they are on court we may not be able to see them as close as we can unless we pay the expensive tickets.
That will be certainly worth it when you get one but like me whenever I see celebrities or athletes like them, I'm in awe and probably just forgot to do that as I stare at them. Anyone who's going to watch and pay for the tickets to watch Team USA? Gilas' tickets are affordable at least for the gen ad.  Cheesy

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August 23, 2023, 06:18:56 PM
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There could be some strategies that's being set by that coach and that's why he didn't allowed to play Clarkson for their tune up matches. Another thing is that he's preserving him to the upcoming matches there and that's the better choice that he needs to decide.

For sure Chot Reyes is up to something in every game, he always has a say on who's going to play or not even though some fans doesn't like what he is doing even though he is always doing something for the team, well you can not always please anyone but in my take Chot Reyes is surely a good one, he surely is preserving Jordan Clarkson and not letting him play on the tune-up games,
Yeah, just like any team that's near to their game day. Their key player has to be preserved so that no unnecessary things could happen like being injured during these tune up games.

While it's a tune up and practice games, the fans would love to see how those games are having. What I think is that they're not allowing it to be broadcasted so that people won't go to the venue and flock as they'll get to know that the games are live and happening if ever they broadcast it on a stream. Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore as we're just a few days away until we finally the live matches for many teams on this world cup.
Yes! the start of the game for the FIBA will be on Friday PST and as I would like to watch the game live, I can't because I have a work to do so pretty much I will be busy on that time, but surely that game will be broadcast nationwide so will be watching it on the comfort of my home,
You should have your boss and HR to take a leave for that purpose, they'll understand it.  Tongue
It's exciting as we're getting closer to the actual date of the matches.
Speaking of the date, for someone who wants to have the reference of scheduled games: https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2023/games

Was it for most of the teams that are having tune up games that there's no way to watch a stream? I think there's a definite reason why they're keeping it closed doors so that these practice or tune up games are well protected and kept private in preparation for their actual games soon.

These teams are trying to figure out their playing styles, team chemistry and looking for their bad habits. So they are not exposing their games to the public. Otherwise, the rest of the teams especially their team group mates will have their own staff assessing it and will identify their strengths and weaknesses.

Anyways, just two more days before the official start. I'm looking forward to the opening game between betting favorites Australia against Finland. Looking forward to Lauri Markkanen and his gang pulling an upset against the Aussies who will compete with a lot of NBA players.
That make sense but I know that most teams are already advanced and they have their own scouting agent to watchout those teams that they're scheduled to play against with. Anyway, I'm also excited to see the opening of the games. I've already linked the scheduled for everyone's reference.

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August 23, 2023, 09:54:45 PM
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unfortunately, there's no live streaming available for this game. It appears to be a closed-door game once again.
Was it for most of the teams that are having tune up games that there's no way to watch a stream? I think there's a definite reason why they're keeping it closed doors so that these practice or tune up games are well protected and kept private in preparation for their actual games soon.

These teams are trying to figure out their playing styles, team chemistry and looking for their bad habits. So they are not exposing their games to the public. Otherwise, the rest of the teams especially their team group mates will have their own staff assessing it and will identify their strengths and weaknesses.

Anyways, just two more days before the official start. I'm looking forward to the opening game between betting favorites Australia against Finland. Looking forward to Lauri Markkanen and his gang pulling an upset against the Aussies who will compete with a lot of NBA players.

Finland is a huge underdog with odds of 5.25 and an Asian Handicap of +9.5. Taking the moneyline odds is quite attractive if you truly believe that an upset could happen here. Although Australia boasts many NBA players, this is a world cup, and every game matters. Chemistry will play a significant role in this match.

Personally, I would consider betting live, as I have a feeling that Finland might be competitive in the early quarters but could falter in the second half. So, I'm considering either -5.5 or the moneyline if the odds are favorable for Australia.

https://basketballsphere.com/en/finland-vs-australia-analysis-and-prediction-aug-25-2023/



By the way, @AHOYBRAUSE and btc_angela, nice conversation you have there. It clearly shows that you really know about the history of basketball in your country.

Australia has a real good team.  Understand those odds are really nice but they exist for a reason.  If anything a first half bet might be the play there but even that is even odds so betting on Findlay is dicey.  I have Australia as one of my underdog picks to place (1st-3rd)  I do like betting underdogs in this tourny though, they hit sometimes where as league play major underdogs rarely ever pay off.  Good luck to you if you do lay on the game.

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August 24, 2023, 03:28:05 AM
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unfortunately, there's no live streaming available for this game. It appears to be a closed-door game once again.
Was it for most of the teams that are having tune up games that there's no way to watch a stream? I think there's a definite reason why they're keeping it closed doors so that these practice or tune up games are well protected and kept private in preparation for their actual games soon.

These teams are trying to figure out their playing styles, team chemistry and looking for their bad habits. So they are not exposing their games to the public. Otherwise, the rest of the teams especially their team group mates will have their own staff assessing it and will identify their strengths and weaknesses.

Anyways, just two more days before the official start. I'm looking forward to the opening game between betting favorites Australia against Finland. Looking forward to Lauri Markkanen and his gang pulling an upset against the Aussies who will compete with a lot of NBA players.

Finland is a huge underdog with odds of 5.25 and an Asian Handicap of +9.5. Taking the moneyline odds is quite attractive if you truly believe that an upset could happen here. Although Australia boasts many NBA players, this is a world cup, and every game matters. Chemistry will play a significant role in this match.

Personally, I would consider betting live, as I have a feeling that Finland might be competitive in the early quarters but could falter in the second half. So, I'm considering either -5.5 or the moneyline if the odds are favorable for Australia.

Yeah, make sense to betting live in this tournament, there could be a lot of surprises as we all know that this players are representing their country, so we might discount that odds and maybe we will see some underdogs winning games and if we by chance go and bet on them, we might have a good winnings.

And if Australia has a lot of NBA players, then yeah, I would agree to what @wheelz1200, maybe they could land on a good spot in this tournament. But obviously, US team will be favorite here, but it will not be easy for them to just steam roll others teams even if they are composed of NBA players.
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August 24, 2023, 07:20:54 AM
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And if Australia has a lot of NBA players, then yeah, I would agree to what @wheelz1200, maybe they could land on a good spot in this tournament. But obviously, US team will be favorite here, but it will not be easy for them to just steam roll others teams even if they are composed of NBA players.

Basketball has already been evolving. While the NBA is the most popular league in the world, we cannot guarantee that it has the best players. This tournament will be a testament to determine which country truly has the best players. Even though Team USA is the heavy favorite, we wouldn't be surprised if they win. However, I still believe that there will be surprises, and the USA might not even reach the Finals.

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August 24, 2023, 10:39:48 AM
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The FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 will be opening tomorrow. You can check the schedules on the link provided below:

https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2023/games

I have a question: Does anyone here know if there's a site that will stream all the games? Or is there a subscription similar to the NBA League Pass, so we can easily watch the games we'd like to see? Additionally, I've heard that some sites like Stake offer live streaming on their platform. Do they also cover this event?

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August 24, 2023, 01:20:05 PM
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The FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 will be opening tomorrow. You can check the schedules on the link provided below:

https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2023/games

I have a question: Does anyone here know if there's a site that will stream all the games? Or is there a subscription similar to the NBA League Pass, so we can easily watch the games we'd like to see? Additionally, I've heard that some sites like Stake offer live streaming on their platform. Do they also cover this event?

Arenaplus(local casino) offers live game broadcast on matches as official partner of Fiba in PH. I’m not sure on other games in other country but you can check your local cable provider for a pay per view subscription since our local cable channel offer this kind of subscription.



I place a bet for Philippines as support for tomorrow’s game against Dominican Republic, I knew that KAT is playing with the opponent team tomorrow but I have high hopes that PH will manage to secure him down since we have many pesky players who can defend annoyingly against KAT.

I’m also tempted on 4.0 odds.  Anyone here with me with this suicide bet? Roll Eyes

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August 24, 2023, 01:32:22 PM
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The FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 will be opening tomorrow. You can check the schedules on the link provided below:
https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2023/games

I have a question: Does anyone here know if there's a site that will stream all the games? Or is there a subscription similar to the NBA League Pass, so we can easily watch the games we'd like to see? Additionally, I've heard that some sites like Stake offer live streaming on their platform. Do they also cover this event?
Looking forward for the tournament to start and seeing the schedule for the opening matches look good for bettors.

The FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 will be opening tomorrow. You can check the schedules on the link provided below:

https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2023/games

I have a question: Does anyone here know if there's a site that will stream all the games? Or is there a subscription similar to the NBA League Pass, so we can easily watch the games we'd like to see? Additionally, I've heard that some sites like Stake offer live streaming on their platform. Do they also cover this event?
Arenaplus(local casino) offers live game broadcast on matches as official partner of Fiba in PH. I’m not sure on other games in other country but you can check your local cable provider for a pay per view subscription since our local cable channel offer this kind of subscription.

I place a bet for Philippines as support for tomorrow’s game against Dominican Republic, I knew that KAT is playing with the opponent team tomorrow but I have high hopes that PH will manage to secure him down since we have many pesky players who can defend annoyingly against KAT.

I’m also tempted on 4.0 odds.  Anyone here with me with this suicide bet?
Seen the odds for one of host nations and it does look one sided.
Don't know if the odds have risen but they were @5.70x for the Philippines to win against the Dominican Republic when I checked them earlier today.
You can see them here before the matches begin:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/international/fiba-world-championship/matches
Atleast their game is around the same time tomorrow for me to catch it.

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August 24, 2023, 01:39:04 PM
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There are no more friendlies left man, the world cup starts in 2 days.  Grin
Yay! Sorry, I was looking at the friendly games schedule at their website and I can see yesterday that 2 or 3 games have no scores yet.  Grin Thank you though for the information.

Had recently found out basketball is biggest sport to the country of the Philippines so hosting something like this is very important and the article linked from @Baofeng goes to show it to be true.
If the government can suspend work and schools for the metro area in Manila making it basically a national holiday says it all.
Didn't realize Jordan Clarkson was representing the Philippines. Joining Kai Sotto as ambassadors of the country for the NBA players association. Very nice!
It is true. It's either basketball, boxing, or billiards. Cheesy

Anyway, are you guys ready?
Tomorrow, at 4 PM GMT+8 Finland and Australia will start the FIBA World Cup tip-off. Rush hour times, I hope we can find some time to watch these games live.
8 games are listed to start the day. I think I want to see the most is the battle of Canada versus France. Both teams have lots of NBA players in their roster so it might become a highly competitive game.

Oh, and I will be eyeing Montenegro too. Those guys surprised me when they reached Round 16 during the EuroBasket 2022 and lost to Germany by just 6 points. In their bracket (Group D) the favorite is Lithuania, I think it's also going to be a hardcore close game.
Tomorrow, they will play against Mexico so I want to see if that strength they showed in EuroBasket is still intact.

To all who will make a bet, good luck guys.

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August 24, 2023, 01:54:15 PM
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I am more than ready.
Also successfully sold my tickets for Germany vs Japan game in Okinawa cause we can't make it on time there.

I checked for a sports bar to watch it but they all seem a little sketchy and tourist oriented here, unfortunately.
Would have been funny to be most likely the only German supports there.  Grin
So we will enjoy the game on Japanese TV, I strongly expect it to be televised.

If not, there is still the German stream.

Anyway, finally the time has come. Other than France vs Canada there are no even games tomorrow, it's all big favourite versus underdog. Are we seeing any upsets? For tomorrow, that's gonna be tough I think.

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August 24, 2023, 02:12:48 PM
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The FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 will be opening tomorrow. You can check the schedules on the link provided below:

https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2023/games

I have a question: Does anyone here know if there's a site that will stream all the games? Or is there a subscription similar to the NBA League Pass, so we can easily watch the games we'd like to see? Additionally, I've heard that some sites like Stake offer live streaming on their platform. Do they also cover this event?
Arenaplus(local casino) offers live game broadcast on matches as official partner of Fiba in PH. I’m not sure on other games in other country but you can check your local cable provider for a pay per view subscription since our local cable channel offer this kind of subscription.

I place a bet for Philippines as support for tomorrow’s game against Dominican Republic, I knew that KAT is playing with the opponent team tomorrow but I have high hopes that PH will manage to secure him down since we have many pesky players who can defend annoyingly against KAT.

I’m also tempted on 4.0 odds.  Anyone here with me with this suicide bet?
Seen the odds for one of host nations and it does look one sided.
Don't know if the odds have risen but they were @5.70x for the Philippines to win against the Dominican Republic when I checked them earlier today.
You can see them here before the matches begin:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/international/fiba-world-championship/matches
Atleast their game is around the same time tomorrow for me to catch it.

I’m using a local sportsbook to place bet for fiat currency. I’m holding right now all my crypto due to the current dip and decided to spend my fiat money on my wallet apps that support the local casino that I’m using to place bet.

Having a low odds is one characteristic of local casino here because they monopolize PH customer due to weak competition. That 1.0 additional odds on sportsbet is really good but I’m not expecting big that my bet will win. This is just a support bet on my side to enjoy watching the game tomorrow.

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August 24, 2023, 03:59:29 PM
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And if Australia has a lot of NBA players, then yeah, I would agree to what @wheelz1200, maybe they could land on a good spot in this tournament. But obviously, US team will be favorite here, but it will not be easy for them to just steam roll others teams even if they are composed of NBA players.

Basketball has already been evolving. While the NBA is the most popular league in the world, we cannot guarantee that it has the best players. This tournament will be a testament to determine which country truly has the best players. Even though Team USA is the heavy favorite, we wouldn't be surprised if they win. However, I still believe that there will be surprises, and the USA might not even reach the Finals.

NBA is the most prominent league not because they are popular but rather most skilled player all over the world wants to be on NBA as their target league for there career. I think you mean USA since NBA doesn't represent USA alone. Most of the All Star on NBA now came from different country which is why other country is now much stronger compared before when only few NBA star represent their country. Most of the favorite country aside from USA contains star player from NBA like Canada and France.

Competition on FIBA is tougher now for USA since other country is already have NBA star players that represent their own home country. Team USA will have a hard time dominating the world cup with their current young line-up.

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And if Australia has a lot of NBA players, then yeah, I would agree to what @wheelz1200, maybe they could land on a good spot in this tournament. But obviously, US team will be favorite here, but it will not be easy for them to just steam roll others teams even if they are composed of NBA players.

Basketball has already been evolving. While the NBA is the most popular league in the world, we cannot guarantee that it has the best players. This tournament will be a testament to determine which country truly has the best players. Even though Team USA is the heavy favorite, we wouldn't be surprised if they win. However, I still believe that there will be surprises, and the USA might not even reach the Finals.

With the kind of competition and with the representative team US send to this tournament, chances to secure the title can't be
conclude, like you, I won't be surprised if team US won't win the title.

There are teams who really have a good chemistry, National teams who played together for quite some time and unlike with team US
who only start the practices months ago before FIBA.,

We will know who's going to excel and win the title. Good luck to every bettor who will go to place their bets.
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And if Australia has a lot of NBA players, then yeah, I would agree to what @wheelz1200, maybe they could land on a good spot in this tournament. But obviously, US team will be favorite here, but it will not be easy for them to just steam roll others teams even if they are composed of NBA players.
Basketball has already been evolving. While the NBA is the most popular league in the world, we cannot guarantee that it has the best players. This tournament will be a testament to determine which country truly has the best players. Even though Team USA is the heavy favorite, we wouldn't be surprised if they win. However, I still believe that there will be surprises, and the USA might not even reach the Finals.
NBA is the most prominent league not because they are popular but rather most skilled player all over the world wants to be on NBA as their target league for there career. I think you mean USA since NBA doesn't represent USA alone. Most of the All Star on NBA now came from different country which is why other country is now much stronger compared before when only few NBA star represent their country. Most of the favorite country aside from USA contains star player from NBA like Canada and France.

Competition on FIBA is tougher now for USA since other country is already have NBA star players that represent their own home country. Team USA will have a hard time dominating the world cup with their current young line-up.
Well, they aren't the depending champions and that alone is the testament that it's a tough environment for USA Basketball and with that roster I guess it wasn't the best roster they deploy for the World Cup. I think Serbia, Greece, Slovenia, and Spain are favorites here as well since they are likely the dark horses in this competition.
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August 24, 2023, 08:37:43 PM
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So, World Cup finally begins tomorrow! I'm not that hyped before this year tournament, mainly because my national team - Lithuania don't have big ambitions. It's godd that we have easy start with Egypt and Mexico.
Main game tomorrow is Canada - France. My money is on France. IMO, Canada get hyped too much like before every tournament and they haven't achieved anything.
Australia - Finland sounds interesting. I expect close game and Finlands is capable to make an upset.
Italy - Angola and Dominican Republic - Philippines doesn't sounds very exciting, but I will take a look into it just because it's interesting how basketball looks played in huge arena with 55 00 capacity.

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So, World Cup finally begins tomorrow! I'm not that hyped before this year tournament, mainly because my national team - Lithuania don't have big ambitions. It's godd that we have easy start with Egypt and Mexico.
Main game tomorrow is Canada - France. My money is on France. IMO, Canada get hyped too much like before every tournament and they haven't achieved anything.
Australia - Finland sounds interesting. I expect close game and Finlands is capable to make an upset.
Italy - Angola and Dominican Republic - Philippines doesn't sounds very exciting, but I will take a look into it just because it's interesting how basketball looks played in huge arena with 55 00 capacity.

I tend to agree with you on the france game.  Canada is gonna be tough but that is one of the better games to watch.  In terms of Australia and Finland someone said the same thing yesterday I just don't see it.  Australia is a lot stronger team by far.  What makes everyone think Finland can win here?  Something I'm missing?

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August 24, 2023, 09:09:38 PM
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Italy - Angola and Dominican Republic - Philippines doesn't sounds very exciting, but I will take a look into it just because it's interesting how basketball looks played in huge arena with 55 00 capacity.
As a host country, we can already feel the excitement and the hype of FIBA, seriously we might not have the chance to win against the power house team but still there's a chance since there is the advantage of being the country host. Few more hours before the start of the first game in my country, some places already declared this as holiday due to expected high volume of traffic and viewers. I'm betting on the Philippines here, hoping for a successful campaign for the FIBA teams.

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