FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 - Betting and Discussions

[AHOYBRAUSE]

New Zeland managed to be close to USA for big part of time, but while watching game it was obvious that's only matter of time when USA will run away.

Kinda thought that New Zealand have that one in the bag. USA tuned it up big time on the second quarter and made sure that there are very minimal turnovers on the third. After that, I know that New Zealand is already losing hope, with most of their plays no longer centered on the inside and are just trying to take the threes whenever possible. It was a good effort, but certainly not as exciting since the game is pretty one-sided when the end of the 2nd quarter is nearing.

In the bag? In the 1st quarter? haha
USA was down 16 with 13 min to go against Germany in their last test match and in the end won by 8.
I bet when they were down 10 after some minutes the handicap was still at least -20 points.
Against the US team you never have it in the bag. They kept the game "open" for like 23 min, after that it wasn't close at all.

Today will be the big group game for Germany facing Australia. Both teams showed good and bad sides in their first game. For Australia it was the bad 1st half, for Germany the 2nd was weak.

I think this matchup could be a close one, so are the odd with Australia being like a 2 point favourite to win.

Hopefully Germany can prevail so there will be no pressure before the 3rd and final game versus Finland.

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[tabas]

Honestly, I just knew the entire team without being familiarized with their roster. Maybe just Haddadi? There were too many upsets during this FIBA world cup opening.

And if I'm not mistaken, there is Iran A and Iran B, please correct me if I'm wrong. And yeah it was just Haddadi that we are more familiar.

Yeah, they've got two teams but I'm not sure which was the one that's played against Brazil.

I haven't put a single bet on the tournament though, but congrats to those who have been in the winning runs already. But as you have said, handicaps are also hard to bet right now because there could be upsets in the coming days. Like the other day, no one expects Canada to blow up the France team, but as I have said, they are the second favorite in this tournament and looks solid.

Maybe for the last matches to see if you can count on them or if they've been consistent for the first and second matches of theirs. Later on, there will be more matches and that's also a good time to place some bets if you want to. So, surprising upsets were there left and right and expect that some of it will be seen for the upcoming matches.

[Fredomago]

New Zeland managed to be close to USA for big part of time, but while watching game it was obvious that's only matter of time when USA will run away.

Kinda thought that New Zealand have that one in the bag. USA tuned it up big time on the second quarter and made sure that there are very minimal turnovers on the third. After that, I know that New Zealand is already losing hope, with most of their plays no longer centered on the inside and are just trying to take the threes whenever possible. It was a good effort, but certainly not as exciting since the game is pretty one-sided when the end of the 2nd quarter is nearing.

It was a good game for both teams and USA really work hard to erase the double digit lead of New Zealand and prevail at the end.
This may not be the most dominant players for USA but I think they are still doing good and making a great name for their own.

yeah, seems that they are proving that even they are not composed of a heavy favorite superstars from NBA they still competing and showing what they've got, it will be a more interesting journey to them if they will going to win the title, though the advantage is having great coaches and the rotations and blending of players is really balance, it will be on the players side to work and to win against their opponents.

Too early for giving an opinion if who's going to win and there are many teams to watch out, squad who can upset any teams and play as competitive as what we are all expecting from all the selected squads.

[Sithara007]

Disappointed with the matches yesterday. Asian, African and Oceanian teams were destroyed by Europeans and Americans. Serbia had an easy win over China, with a margin of 105-63. USA swept the floor with New Zealand, to win by 99-72. And in the third match, Ivory Cost lost to Spain by a margin of 64-94. For me, the only interesting match was the one between South Sudan and Puerto Rico. The former gave a tough fight to Puerto Rico, but eventually lost by the slightest of the margins (96-101). This team shows a lot of promise for sure.

[danherbias07]

Disappointed with the matches yesterday. Asian, African and Oceanian teams were destroyed by Europeans and Americans. Serbia had an easy win over China, with a margin of 105-63. USA swept the floor with New Zealand, to win by 99-72. And in the third match, Ivory Cost lost to Spain by a margin of 64-94. For me, the only interesting match was the one between South Sudan and Puerto Rico. The former gave a tough fight to Puerto Rico, but eventually lost by the slightest of the margins (96-101). This team shows a lot of promise for sure.

Brazil also blew out Iran by a big margin. When I saw the score in the first half, I could not find the energy to watch the game. And correct I think the game between South Sudan against Puerto Rico is the only close game that also end up in overtime thanks to Jones shooting the three to tie the game and the fans being involved to disturb the last 2 free-throw of Puerto Rico. 

About the USA, whoever took the -35 handicap is a loser now. New Zealand may have lost that game but those gamblers who took the risk of taking +35 for them are winners now. That's still 1.80+ of a win, sadly I didn't take it, I didn't have the courage to do so against a strong team like the USA.

Later we will have interesting games to watch.

Italy versus the Dominican Republic - who is really the strongest in their group. 4 PM GMT+8
Australia versus Germany - a must-watch game. 4:30 PM GMT+8

I think I will need two televisions. 

And here are the other games today.
Montenegro versus Egypt
Lebanon versus Canada
Philippines versus Angola
Japan versus Finland
Lithuania versus Mexico
France versus Latvia

[avp2306]

Here is another fun fact from NeonMan himself,

The record attendance for a FIBA game was 25 years ago, Dream Team II at 32,000. While the Arena in the Philippines and the attendance there was 38,115 fans rooting for Gilas to win, unfortunately, KAT was too strong. Kai Sotto try to guard him but it was clearly a mismatch.

But the good thing about KAT is that he recognized and respect the efforts of team Philippines.

He see how passionate the Filipino on basketball and he receive a lot of love from Philippines so expect that he will say something good to their opponent also to the host country. But its really a tight game between Philippines and Dominican Republic if Philippines didn't collapsed on last quarter and Clarkson didn't get fouled out maybe the result is different. Philippines coaching staff seems having a big mess and looks like he don't have proper plan if Clarkson is out of the game.

That was the turning point – when he fouled out, it became the reason why the Philippines couldn't find their offensive rhythm anymore. Nevertheless, I believe it's time to move forward. With two more games ahead, I hope the Philippines will learn from their mistakes and make the necessary adjustments. We have a good opportunity against Angola, although I'm uncertain about our chances against Italy.

For the article I read and noise on social media many Filipino basketball fans doesn't like the current coach because his system use is outdated and it really show how inconsistent he is in creating crucial decision that's why they always left behind by their opponents. Lets hope that their lose to Dominican republic will be their wake up call to create more better plays and decision especially on crucial minutes. They there full of talents but they are just been wasted because their coaching staff doesn't know how to use them they just let Clarkson get tired and receive more fouls then we see how bad the result it turns for them.

Indeed, the Pilipinas have a good roster and yet coach Chot Reyes, their coach, cannot utilize them all to make a much better play and just like what he had done to the team the other day, it was evident that he's not the right man for the job. Even the Filipino fans knew that there are others who is more deserving but they were not given a chance to have another coach.

There are lots of window at that time that he could've pull out a good move as a coach but it's like he don't see it or sometimes, he's already late before he realized it. Even the challenge calls wasn't utilized well.

He didn't properly utilize his player and used those people who's afraid to shoot then create more turnovers on crucial minutes that's the reason why they lose. If they could just change the management for sure they can get a good result with their campaign.
But let see it still one game if they lose again and didn't have good plays used. Maybe its time for the coach to realize that he's not helping the national team anymore and step down to most deserving one than him.

[Viscore]

And here are the other games today.
Montenegro versus Egypt
Lebanon versus Canada
Philippines versus Angola
Japan versus Finland
Lithuania versus Mexico
France versus Latvia

There's also Italy vs the Dominican Republic; this match promises excitement because the Dominican Republic is the underdog, and I'm placing a bet on them with +200 odds. With KAT (Karl-Anthony Towns) in the lineup, I see this team as an improved unit that could potentially pose challenges to Italy. While Italy might have a size advantage, the question remains: How can they contain KAT's productivity, especially in the paint? Furthermore, if the defense fails to close out quickly, he might engage in a 3-point shootout during this game.

[Coin_trader]

There's also Italy vs the Dominican Republic; this match promises excitement because the Dominican Republic is the underdog, and I'm placing a bet on them with +200 odds. With KAT (Karl-Anthony Towns) in the lineup, I see this team as an improved unit that could potentially pose challenges to Italy. While Italy might have a size advantage, the question remains: How can they contain KAT's productivity, especially in the paint? Furthermore, if the defense fails to close out quickly, he might engage in a 3-point shootout during this game.

Watching Dominican Republic against PH makes me think that KAT is holding or he is not coordinated with his teammates since he has few assists and most of his score is only on his own effort.

Dominican Republic also has a very bad free throw and 3pts accuracy. They only win against Philippines because KAT is unstoppable that gives him a lot of foul when he attack but I doubt that he can do this too on Italy with much stronger line-up. Dominican has a chance to win if they will coordinate all their attacks with KAT by giving him assist and space to make an easy points.

[Ziskinberg]

There's also Italy vs the Dominican Republic; this match promises excitement because the Dominican Republic is the underdog, and I'm placing a bet on them with +200 odds. With KAT (Karl-Anthony Towns) in the lineup, I see this team as an improved unit that could potentially pose challenges to Italy. While Italy might have a size advantage, the question remains: How can they contain KAT's productivity, especially in the paint? Furthermore, if the defense fails to close out quickly, he might engage in a 3-point shootout during this game.

Watching Dominican Republic against PH makes me think that KAT is holding or he is not coordinated with his teammates since he has few assists and most of his score is only on his own effort.

Dominican Republic also has a very bad free throw and 3pts accuracy. They only win against Philippines because KAT is unstoppable that gives him a lot of foul when he attack but I doubt that he can do this too on Italy with much stronger line-up. Dominican has a chance to win if they will coordinate all their attacks with KAT by giving him assist and space to make an easy points.

The significant size advantage of Italy in this game is quite apparent. It's reassuring to see that the Dominican Republic's shooting is on target. KAT is also performing impressively. I believe this game holds a high level of unpredictability. Italy might take the lead in the first half, but considering what occurred in the Philippines game, KAT could potentially pick up momentum in the second half.

As of now, the score stands at 37-36, with Italy holding just a 1-point lead with less than 2 minutes remaining in the 2nd quarter.

[Distinctin]

There's also Italy vs the Dominican Republic; this match promises excitement because the Dominican Republic is the underdog, and I'm placing a bet on them with +200 odds. With KAT (Karl-Anthony Towns) in the lineup, I see this team as an improved unit that could potentially pose challenges to Italy. While Italy might have a size advantage, the question remains: How can they contain KAT's productivity, especially in the paint? Furthermore, if the defense fails to close out quickly, he might engage in a 3-point shootout during this game.

Watching Dominican Republic against PH makes me think that KAT is holding or he is not coordinated with his teammates since he has few assists and most of his score is only on his own effort.

Dominican Republic also has a very bad free throw and 3pts accuracy. They only win against Philippines because KAT is unstoppable that gives him a lot of foul when he attack but I doubt that he can do this too on Italy with much stronger line-up. Dominican has a chance to win if they will coordinate all their attacks with KAT by giving him assist and space to make an easy points.

The significant size advantage of Italy in this game is quite apparent. It's reassuring to see that the Dominican Republic's shooting is on target. KAT is also performing impressively. I believe this game holds a high level of unpredictability. Italy might take the lead in the first half, but considering what occurred in the Philippines game, KAT could potentially pick up momentum in the second half.

As of now, the score stands at 37-36, with Italy holding just a 1-point lead with less than 2 minutes remaining in the 2nd quarter.

The Dominican Republic could potentially win this game, especially considering that Italy's coach has been ejected. With just a one-point lead entering the 3rd quarter, the game's progression remains uncertain. KAT continues to perform at his usual level, and that's crucial for the Dominican team to maintain their lead and potentially upset Italy.

KAT has already scored 15 points, while Feliz has contributed 18 points; their offense seems to be functioning smoothly.

https://www.fiba.basketball/live-scores

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Germany with the expected close and tough game vs a great Australian team, but we got the better end and now are with 1 foot in the next round. 

We played very focussed and even when the refs made a lot of strange calls against us, we prevailed.
Dennis showed his leader abilities in this match for sure, he had a big game with 30 points. Another standout for me was Maodo Lo who had a great 4th quarter when we went from -4 to +6 within the first 90 seconds of the last period.

Given the fact that Finland lost BIG vs Australia it's safe to say that we should be as good as qualified for the next round. Mathematically we can still bust out but that would be very surprising.

This game was the only "powerhouse" matchup today, the other games are mostly higher handicap games.
Let's hope the Philippines beat Angola to stay alive in their group. It would be nice to keep the great atmosphere in the host country going.

[Coin_trader]

The Dominican Republic could potentially win this game, especially considering that Italy's coach has been ejected. With just a one-point lead entering the 3rd quarter, the game's progression remains uncertain. KAT continues to perform at his usual level, and that's crucial for the Dominican team to maintain their lead and potentially upset Italy.

KAT has already scored 15 points, while Feliz has contributed 18 points; their offense seems to be functioning smoothly.

https://www.fiba.basketball/live-scores

Italy coach needs a lot of patience since he was involved on this same issue last year on FIBA Euro. I didn't watch the game but I'm surprised on the result so I made research to found out that their coach ejected before the first half ended.

Although Italy has assistant coach, It's very hard to maintain a same level of confidence playing with the main coach. Also Dominican Republic game improves a lot compared to their game against PH. Kat is now doing assist and not forcing his way in on rim while his teammates improves significantly their shooting accuracy that helps them secure the win over Italy that is still adjusting.

GGWP to those who bet for Dominican. It Gilas time now.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Germany with the expected close and tough game vs a great Australian team, but we got the better end and now are with 1 foot in the next round. 

We played very focussed and even when the refs made a lot of strange calls against us, we prevailed.
Dennis showed his leader abilities in this match for sure, he had a big game with 30 points. Another standout for me was Maodo Lo who had a great 4th quarter when we went from -4 to +6 within the first 90 seconds of the last period.

Given the fact that Finland lost BIG vs Australia it's safe to say that we should be as good as qualified for the next round. Mathematically we can still bust out but that would be very surprising.

This game was the only "powerhouse" matchup today, the other games are mostly higher handicap games.
Let's hope the Philippines beat Angola to stay alive in their group. It would be nice to keep the great atmosphere in the host country going.

It's a close game between the Philippines and Angola, just a slight lead by the Angolans 36-33. And I think it's a hard game to predict but early one the Philippines was the favorite pre-game and they are still the favorite even though they are down.

Yes, I would like the Philippines to win, so that fans will continue to support the game. Although even if they go up and bow, as basketball crazy loving fans, there are still a lot of good teams to watch especially the USA team.

[AbuBhakar]

This game was the only "powerhouse" matchup today, the other games are mostly higher handicap games.
Let's hope the Philippines beat Angola to stay alive in their group. It would be nice to keep the great atmosphere in the host country going.

The PH crowd will give a great atmosphere as support to this league with or without PH actively playing because we consider US team as our second home team due to our strong admiration on Basketball and the one who introduces this sports to our country.

Nevertheless, PH crowd will always support this support no matter what happened to our team because many of us here is a great critics towards our own team. You know, We support, we bash and that's we have fun here. 

[LTU_btc]

Wow, what an epic day in World Cup. France goes home after group stage after loss to Latvia. Latvia made impressive comeback in 4th quarter and I'm very happy for their win. While it seems that it's end of era for this France generation.
 Japan were down by 18 points but won against favorites Finland and eliminated them. What emotions of Japan players and home crowd, it looked like they won World Cup.
Germany - Australia, another amazing game. Great win by Germany, but I think there was foul when Giddey tried to made buzzer beater.
Dominican Republic win against Italy, I'm not sure that we can call it as surprise. Italy squad this year isn't impressive at all.
Didn't watched Philippines - Angola, there should be huge disappointed because Angola is them that they should beat. Now they most likely will end tournament without wins.
Easy win for my Lithuania against Mexico and we in next round. Before that we will get tougher matchup against Montenegro.
Lebanon 73:128 Canada. Canada scored 100 points already after 3 quarters and such results don't give prestige for World Cup.

[FanEagle]

I did not know KAT was Dominican, I thought he was American, interesting, I also did not expected to see Jordan Clarkson too, turns out he was from Philippines as well, I thought he was American too, so many players I thought to be American and turns out not from there and from another nation.

I think it was definitely a good close game, and losses happens it is not really a big deal to lose this game and I think it should be important to realize that we are not going to get that much of a big deal out of this, World Cup should be something to care about but unfortunately USA doesn't seem to care all that much, look at their roster, they do not bring in the best players, so lets see when they will lose out, because I bet that this team can't win it all.

[wheelz1200]

I did not know KAT was Dominican, I thought he was American, interesting, I also did not expected to see Jordan Clarkson too, turns out he was from Philippines as well, I thought he was American too, so many players I thought to be American and turns out not from there and from another nation.

I think it was definitely a good close game, and losses happens it is not really a big deal to lose this game and I think it should be important to realize that we are not going to get that much of a big deal out of this, World Cup should be something to care about but unfortunately USA doesn't seem to care all that much, look at their roster, they do not bring in the best players, so lets see when they will lose out, because I bet that this team can't win it all.

It's not that they aren't American they are, but theor heritage lies from those countries.  Meaning they didn't grow up there (I don't think) it's that maybe their parents were from those countries.  I don't know what the rules are in terms of who can represent who but pretty sure if you were born in the US that doesn't dismiss the fact you can represent another country.

[inthelongrun]

I did not know KAT was Dominican, I thought he was American, interesting, I also did not expected to see Jordan Clarkson too, turns out he was from Philippines as well, I thought he was American too, so many players I thought to be American and turns out not from there and from another nation.

I think it was definitely a good close game, and losses happens it is not really a big deal to lose this game and I think it should be important to realize that we are not going to get that much of a big deal out of this, World Cup should be something to care about but unfortunately USA doesn't seem to care all that much, look at their roster, they do not bring in the best players, so lets see when they will lose out, because I bet that this team can't win it all.

It's not that they aren't American they are, but theor heritage lies from those countries.  Meaning they didn't grow up there (I don't think) it's that maybe their parents were from those countries.  I don't know what the rules are in terms of who can represent who but pretty sure if you were born in the US that doesn't dismiss the fact you can represent another country.

Yeah, both KAT and Clarkson are US-born with foreign heritage. I believe both are dual citizens but FIBA has a unique rule. If someone was born outside of his heritage country and only secured a passport from that country after his 16th birthday, he can longer play as a local. This is the case of Jordan Clarkson, but he is still playing in his heritage country since FIBA allows one naturalized player per country. KAT secured his DR passport before his 16th birthday so his heritage country can still pick another naturalized player for its team. Just like Timberwolves' Kyle Anderson who is of zero Chinese blood but was naturalized and granted citizenship by China. FIBA however does not allow a player who already represented a country before to shift to another country which means KAT cannot play in the US team.

[TimeTeller]

I did not know KAT was Dominican, I thought he was American, interesting, I also did not expected to see Jordan Clarkson too, turns out he was from Philippines as well, I thought he was American too, so many players I thought to be American and turns out not from there and from another nation.

I think it was definitely a good close game, and losses happens it is not really a big deal to lose this game and I think it should be important to realize that we are not going to get that much of a big deal out of this, World Cup should be something to care about but unfortunately USA doesn't seem to care all that much, look at their roster, they do not bring in the best players, so lets see when they will lose out, because I bet that this team can't win it all.

Bookies though are favoring USA to win overall on this event. So even if they are not bringing their best, they are the first choice to win.
Followed by Canada, Slovenia, Australia, France and Spain. Seems they are the favorite teams to top on this world cup.
Clarkson represents Philippines because he is a Fil-Am, and he decides to represent PH on this event and so with KAT, a Dominican-American.
In terms of betting, it would be easier to bet on a per group basis. And then once the group event finishes, that's when you will better see the chances of those teams left.
But if bettors are seeing the advantage of betting early, then, that's their choice because the odds are attractive right now.

[blockman]

I did not know KAT was Dominican, I thought he was American, interesting, I also did not expected to see Jordan Clarkson too, turns out he was from Philippines as well, I thought he was American too, so many players I thought to be American and turns out not from there and from another nation.

IIRC, both of their mothers are natives of their respective countries.

I think it was definitely a good close game, and losses happens it is not really a big deal to lose this game and I think it should be important to realize that we are not going to get that much of a big deal out of this, World Cup should be something to care about but unfortunately USA doesn't seem to care all that much, look at their roster, they do not bring in the best players, so lets see when they will lose out, because I bet that this team can't win it all.

As for Team USA, that stack probably should be enough. Yet, they've got one of the best and championship coach which is Kerr and assistant coach, Erik Spoelstra.

With the match between Angola and the Philippines a while ago, I thought that Gilas would be able to beat Angola but Angola is the stronger team. I don't want to blame the coach despite being booed when shown on the screen in the arena. While most of our countrymen's sentiment is about the system and the coach. Anyway, full hate has always been given to Coach Chot as usual when they're beaten, can't blame the fans though.