The story of Betnomi.com (Exit Scam)

[Mahdirakib]

What happened: Betnomi.com went down for 'scheduled maintenance' on the 2nd July without any prior notice. One month has been passed, yet there is no official announcement about the downtime and the users stuck funds. Betnomi.com is showing this message since 25th July: 'This Edge Function has crashed'. Perhaps, the administrators have taken down the website intentionally. A small number of users have complained about stuck funds on Betnomi here in the forum.

• 0.9 BTC of GekkeBelg
• $20k of Stayzor
• €5.3k of boroBTC
• 300 USDT of marcloig
• Unknown amount of illmatic010101

Let's have a look into some other and old facts regarding Betnomi.

Fake team:
The first complaint was raised in 2019 against Betnomi team. It was related to the fake team and fake ICO project. A flag was created against them, and Betnomi representative had received some negative feedbacks too. But the flag was withdrawn later and some negative feedback was turned into neutral. Betnomi team had solved it by sending PM to some forum members and by running a review campaign.

• [SCAM] BETNOMI - Fake team, ID and Linkedin used without owner authorizations (New title: Old file - to erase) (Archived version)
• PM from betnomi.

Users data was moved to a dummy website Betnomi.bet and wiped from Betnomi.com:
In the October month of 2021, Betnomi team had registered a new domain Betnomi.bet and moved the Betnomi.com database in it. They had wiped all the data from Betnomi.com after moving it into Betnomi.bet. As a result, Betnomi.com became like a new platform and old affiliate partners had lost all the affiliate benefits. (Read here)

Things that happened since 2nd July:
• On 3rd July: An admin of Betnomi said that they will relaunch the website with in-house games. The message has been deleted later from the telegram group.
• On July 3rd and 4th: Some users said that they received their pending withdrawal.
• On 8th July: icopress said that he got a response from Sorsis (Betnomi admin).
• On 16th July: Some forum members have confirmed that they have started receiving suspicious and spam messages from unknown websites on the email address which they used on Betnomi.
• On 19th July: icopress has said that Sorsis (Betnomi admin) will give an announcement in the forum soon. Unfortunately, we haven't heard anything from them yet.
• On 1st August: A forum member has highlighted that Betnomi team has deleted their Linkedin public page.

What is left now:
• Betnomi telegram group
• Betnomi twitter account
• Betnomi instagram account
• Linkedin profile of Sorsis Chatwin (Betnomi admin)
• Some information about Sorsis Chatwin on the Betnomi's trademark application page

Note: It will be appreciated if any victims create a flag against Betnomi. I will add the flag link here.

A newbie/guest warning flag has been created by logfiles.
Support flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3209

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[icopress]

Thanks for the topic. Probably within a week or two I will create a flag against the Betnomi since they owe me a huge amount.

I also wrote to Sorsis yesterday, (on July 18 he promised to return at the end of August and pay), he read my message, but has not answered yet.

[JCLadisav]

Should the signature campaign funds, if any leftover funds, not be used to pay the victims?

[acroman08]

Should the signature campaign funds, if any leftover funds, not be used to pay the victims?

Betnomi's Signature campaign has been on hold since April, also, judging that icopress is waiting to be paid by Sorsis for the job he has done(not sure if it is being the manager of their campaign), I'd say that there are no funds left on the wallet for Betnomi's Signature Campaign.

[holydarkness]

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Note: It will be appreciated if any victims create a flag against Betnomi. I will add the flag link here.

Stayzor is about to create a scam accusation and raise a flag, if I am not mistaken. They asked for a guidance --and provided-- on how to create a scam accusation thread on Betnomi's ANN thread.

Should the signature campaign funds, if any leftover funds, not be used to pay the victims?

Betnomi's Signature campaign has been on hold since April, also, judging that icopress is waiting to be paid by Sorsis for the job he has done(not sure if it is being the manager of their campaign), I'd say that there are no funds left on the wallet for Betnomi's Signature Campaign.

February, if I get it right from the announcement on the signature ann thread, the one continued on and got hold on April is the avatar campaign.

And to answer your question about fund, JCLadisav, the wallet is already empty. I won't be surprised if icopress paid part of the final payment from his own pocket.

[CryptSafe]

It is unfortunate that this is happening and many had to go through pains and inconveniences for their funds stuck at betnomi casino. This issue has been on for long and many were hoping that they would come back to settle or pay pending withdrawals but the reverse was the case. It's so sad to see Ones hard earned resources get lost in such a situation and all efforts put in place to get it back seems abortive. What a devastating situation and manager has chosen to go mute without responding or a message to their campaign manager they owe for long now.
At this point it would be very difficult to withhold anything petition against the betnomi casino and team as a whole. This is more clear a scam act perpetrated by them.

[Odusko]

Should the signature campaign funds, if any leftover funds, not be used to pay the victims?

Betnomi signature campaign only runs for a few weeks but is not a long-term one that keeps funds with the manager and even if there were escrow fund during the campaign, the balance would have been exhausted before the end of the campaign, how much is the weekly signature budget by betnomi it just a few hundred $ so it won't change anything even if they are ruining a current campaign.
Betnomi played a well-planned scam on the whole community with their questionable characters they were able to convince the community with the deceptive move through various reviews and tournaments that make forum members to feel at home with them.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Thanks for the topic. Probably within a week or two I will create a flag against the Betnomi since they owe me a huge amount.

I also wrote to Sorsis yesterday, (on July 18 he promised to return at the end of August and pay), he read my message, but has not answered yet.

Can you please create flag against all the accounts that are belong to Betnomi. I will request OP to collect all the flags and accounts' URLs then add it on the main thread body. It will help all of us to support the flags and leave negative feedback.

[bislom]

People who deposit in Betnomi are idiots. If you got stolen, you got what you deserved.
I warned people many times on the forum that it is a scam project and that they steal your funds, but nobody wanted to listen.
Now face the consequences! That happens when you don't want to listen and being naive to believe the corrupt DT accounts on the forum.

[yahoo62278]

My advice to campaign managers is to ensure they already have sufficient fund to run a week from the organizations through their representatives in other not to put their participants on hold after they might have worked but not received pay, isn't it better to always hold than running a week at your own risk, but i think some representatives were actually promising at their words, they don't owe managers even though they were unreached, they will definitely pay every week started to their participants.

What value are you actually bringing to this thread? You're talking about funding for a sig campaign and what managers should be doing(BTW they know what they should be doing) when the thread is about Betnomi exit scamming.

Go get your post quota elsewhere!!

[notblox1]

Note: It will be appreciated if any victims create a flag against Betnomi. I will add the flag link here.

I am not directly affected victim, but I have my theory what is happening with betnomi and maybe there is possible connection with another casino that showed up recently.
This is my speculation but lot of weird things happened that made me think sorsis intentionally slowly shut down betnomi and started new casino with different name and new token.
Maybe it has to do something with legal stuff and his branding being rejected license or he just wants to start again and try to fool people invest in new casino token.
When I collect more information and find connections maybe I will post details about this. 

Thanks for the topic. Probably within a week or two I will create a flag against the Betnomi since they owe me a huge amount.

I also wrote to Sorsis yesterday, (on July 18 he promised to return at the end of August and pay), he read my message, but has not answered yet.

Sorry to hear this icopress and I hope you still get paid money you earned.
It is crazy what he is doing with people who worked with him, and I had my reservations if they are shutting down betnomi for good or not, but I think this is game over for them.

[icopress]

Sorry to hear this icopress and I hope you still get paid money you earned.
It is crazy what he is doing with people who worked with him, and I had my reservations if they are shutting down betnomi for good or not, but I think this is game over for them.

I got a reply today... I tried to explain that he's not the only one with problems.

In any case, I have no choice but to wait. Although if among the victims there is someone from the United States, write to me.

- Man, I also wanted to know what the status is regarding my payment. You said you could process it at the end of July.
- Yes, I was hoping to be back by now but unfortunately, the issues I came to address here are taking longer than expected. I don’t have access to funds right now
- I would be grateful if you could give me an idea of how long it will take. Bro, to be frank, it's not only you who have problems ... there is a war in my country, and a lot of things are happening in my life that it's hard for me to talk about. I hope you resolve your issues as soon as possible, as this will allow me to resolve mine.
- Yes, I am sorry about this situation. Lots of unexpected things took place and got me in a really bad situation but hopefully, I will get it together soon

[notblox1]

I got a reply today... I tried to explain that he's not the only one with problems.

In any case, I have no choice but to wait. Although if among the victims there is someone from the United States, write to me.

Last thing he said is HOPEFULLY and that does not sound good at all
Anyway I know you are managing campaigns so please watch out for any new casinos that showed up in bitcointalk forum in last few months, they could be owned or co-owned by the same people.
I contacted few members who can help me conducting deeper research about this connection, maybe I can send you information if you want.

[LTU_btc]

Last thing he said is HOPEFULLY and that does not sound good at all

Yeah, such response doesn't gives much hope that this situation will be resolved. We were waiting for response from him for so long, but after we finally got, sitaution doesn't become more clear at all. Giving such answers to questions is almost same like telling nothing.

[Csmiami]

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This is my speculation but lot of weird things happened that made me think sorsis intentionally slowly shut down betnomi and started new casino with different name and new token.
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Would you mind sharing some more details? I wouldn't mind doing some sniffing around to check a few boxes....

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Wow, that's really unfortunate and I'm actually sorry to hear. It's not really relevant now, but as far as I can remember, I never actually got paid anything for the time I was helping him/the brand. It sort of got delayed to a  "we will talk about it" and then it never actually happened before we had that problem. But still; I find it surprising to hear that someone that I remember talking about how he had a few tens of BTC (it's 2:30 am, my memory may be fuzzy) saying that he has trouble accessing funds. I understand you wanting to wait; but I also think you've waited enough before pulling the trigger.

[Latviand]

I got a reply today... I tried to explain that he's not the only one with problems.

In any case, I have no choice but to wait. Although if among the victims there is someone from the United States, write to me.

They have the upper hand, they're going to let you wait some more, I am sure that this will all just lead to more waiting. In the transcript of your conversation, I can already imply that they're trying to make it sound like they need your pity and that they're problem is bigger than any of their customers and seeing how much money from the customers are stuck, I don't think it's going to be returned. I hope that I'm wrong about my speculation that they're not going to answer the questions about their credibility but the odds are stacked against them and they're not communicating clearly to establish some assurance.

[Pmalek]

Some forum members have confirmed that they have started receiving suspicious and spam messages from unknown websites on the email address which they used on Betnomi.

I can confirm the same thing. I have several emails from some CrashOut site on the email I registered my Betnomi account with. The subjects mention welcome bonuses, free money bonuses, and free spins. I never signed up on or ever visited that site. Betnomi could have suffered a hack or a data leak which could explain all this.

A forum member has highlighted that Betnomi team has deleted their Linkedin public page.

That doesn't look good. But a valid question would be why delete their Linkedin page and not do the same for Twitter, Instagram, and Telegram? There hasn't been any activity on social media from their side since May.

[notblox1]

Would you mind sharing some more details? I wouldn't mind doing some sniffing around to check a few boxes....

Sure I can do that, just check your PM.
I will send you basic information I have, but I am still in process of collecting more evidence for direct connections between this casinos.
My hope is that someone could fill the gaps and provide additional information I dont know so that we can see if I was right or not.

[Coinbox1]

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[nutildah]

Let's have a look into some other and old facts regarding Betnomi.

Fake team:
The first complaint was raised in 2019 against Betnomi team. It was related to the fake team and fake ICO project. A flag was created against them, and Betnomi representative had received some negative feedbacks too. But the flag was withdrawn later and some negative feedback was turned into neutral. Betnomi team had solved it by sending PM to some forum members and by running a review campaign.

I remember when this went down back then. It was at the tail end of the ICO days, when the investor money stopped flowing like wine. What I remember the most is this picture from the archived version of the scam accusation thread:



As @stompix pointed out at the time,

Nothing suspicious about it, he just has a 175% bigger head than others...and very poor paint skillz

That picture reminded me of South Park humans:



This was a particularly long-lasting scam... they must have found that running a casino somewhat honestly was profitable, so they kept it going for a long while, until it wasn't. It still goes to show that the warning signs were indeed there from the very beginning.