Concept of Halal Casino

[Stable090]

Maybe the one running that casino just want to convince muslims to gamble to their casino for profit and they use the halal word so that they can convince muslim that they are safe to commit sin for playing on their casino. Also for those who follow the teaching of Islam will not risk to exchange their faith just to gamble and have short time glory with this casino.

Maybe you don’t really understand what he is saying, he isn’t saying gambling is hala or he isn’t encouraging anyone to gamble, in Islam, gambling is haram, and all Muslims know that. But what he is trying to say is that since gambling is haram in Islam, if you are a gambler, which all Muslims know is haram, that doesn't mean you should keep on doing other things that are also haram in Islam. You should try and stop the gambling, and you shouldn’t think about doing other things that are haram in Islam, you shouldn’t increase the sin that you are committing.

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[Ulven]

At first, I believe this topic deserves discussion, so you can move the topic to the discussion section. Honestly, the subject of the prohibition of gambling in Islamic religion has become complicated for me. There is a verse in the Quran summarizing the matter as impurity and Satan's handiwork, but religious scholars' interpretations of this verse differ. They say it's forbidden, contrary to some modernists who claim it's not forbidden but one should avoid the consequences of gambling, like theft and committing crimes. Here's a clip of Mohammad Shahrour explaining that.
https://youtu.be/qvUYG2w62Jc?si=utO71oQi-GS8iFs0

[Porfirii]

I'm not muslim either, and I won't talk about the video because other members have already agreed that it doesn't talk about the topic it was supposed to talk.

About the topic, I think that it is difficult to generalise because we are talking about a religion that is open to multiple interpretations (which not?), even if it is classically clear that gambling is harem. I know a few muslims and most of them openly drink and gamble from time to time, but still pray and try to follow the guidances of the Quran; this is unconceivable in other countries, that's why I say it is difficult to generalise.

About the concept of Halal Casino itself, it reminds me when we started reading articles that tried to explain if Bitcoin could be considered halal or not. My personal point of view (while I'm very ignorant in the matter) is that cryptos could be considered halal depending on how they are used, and a casino could be halal too if there is no usury nor lust of wealth attached to it; but, could we still call it "casino" if we remove those "peculiarities"? That's what I wish I had seen in the proposed video.

[coin-investor]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

I'm not a Muslim but I have learned something from his explanation not because you are doing something that is bad you will stop doing something good that you have been doing, his explanation is very clear and backed by logic, it just justifies that because I'm gambling in a casino I should stop praying I still can pray because I feel good doing this and strengthen my belief in my faith.

We should have perspective in gambling, if we are playing just for fun, we just want to be entertained and play within our means we should not think badly about ourselves and be concerned about the judgment of people.

[ScamViruS]

This video is completely different from the video title, they gave this title with a question mark to get more views. I am not Muslim so I have no problem with gambling, but I have many Muslim friends so I know very well that gambling is forbidden for Muslims.

So there is no point in asking such questions here, Muslims who follow all the ideals of their religion never gamble, which I have seen in some of my friends. And this mufti does not call gambling halal, you should watch the video again.

[Coin_trader]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

I really suggest to include a summary of the video you provides since that’s the ky to understand easily what you are to trying to emphasize on the title.

The video contains a very insightful teaching and I appreciate it well even if I’m not muslim. I was confused on the title at first then I understand what you are trying to share here by watching the video. The concept of halal casino is unorthodox yet it has a point. Being a sinner and doing more sin makes you put on an infinite loop of doing more sins. The idea of having Halal casino will makes muslim that sinning in the casino have a chance to avoid more sin by following the law on halal foods. Interesting topic.

It’s just very hard to spot one since business owner doesn’t expect much Muslim players or it might be view negatively since it might encourage some Muslim to gamble due this feature.

[Stedsm]

The title itself is wrong for the video because he was discussing about people's current state of mentality and saying that while looking at the negative side of a person, we should not ignore his positive side and talk about his negatives in front of him as doing so will encourage him to go far more away from Lord and involve himself into wrong deeds. However, if we speak about the title here, the casino and gambling part was just an example discussed and had nothing to do with his speech overall. And yeah, if you are a Muslim (or not) and you gamble, but you forget to pray to Lord during the times you're expected to practice, then giving such excuse that you weren't able to do that because you lost your time gambling is unacceptable, that's what he's trying to convey through his message.

[jcojci]

I don't want to talk about religion because it is crucial. Now, we think logically and don't involve any religion because it depends on how we interpret it.

Playing gambling gives pleasure. We hope to get this pleasure by gambling and do not want us to forget to do other things that we have to do. But what happens is when we have had that pleasure, we still want to keep getting it and in the end we play gambling for a very long time and use more money.

The average person will play gambling for a long time and if they have other activities, they may forget about it because of the fun factor. And again, if we use a lot of money, it can disrupt our financial position where when we lose and deposit more money, we use the allocation of funds that are elsewhere and that will disrupt our financial position.

While gambling, we can forget the time and money we have used. In fact, if we can manage our time, we can do other activities and also use the money for our living needs, such as buying food or making ends meet. So we should be able to think whether gambling is good or bad for us. For halal or haram issues, it will depend on the judgment of each but Islam prohibits gambling.

[Fortify]

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

No, quite simply. Gambling is not permitted in any form that anyone here would recognize. Unless they are somehow twisting the definition of a casino to match whatever profit motives they are hoping to produce from this setup. He would not be the first or last person who is trying to manipulate a religious following in order to squeeze some money out of them. I highly doubt that he is genuinely behind this, or at the very least he has engineered enough support around the top of the government of the country to get away with such things - because there is no doubt that he will be looked down upon by other muslim majority countries. He is basically doing this out of greed, if it genuinely is him behind it.

[Cadaver20]

This video is very necessary for Muslims. Because it will create a new concept about casino among them. Because Islam does not support gambling. However, not only this video, but more detailed study is required to know the Muslim religious opinion about gambling. Local religious leaders can be discussed if necessary.

[aioc]

I'm not a Muslim and what he taught about his concept is for Muslim followers,  since I'm a Christian I prefer to follow what my religion taught me, but like all the first who posted on this thread I thought its a casino made for Muslim only but it's more on the idea and belief, not an actual casino where Muslim can play.
The title is quite misleading there is a better title that OP can choose and it can still generate discussion, its hard to talk about gambling in religion perspective because we all have different views when it comes to religion.

[Gozie51]

Yes, I watched the whole video and found that the title of this video plus the thumbnail in this video does not match the content presented in the video. This is more like a clickbait title/thumbnail and there is no talk about the legit casino in this video.

Yes, maybe people immediately catch what is seen from the title that contains clickbait and are provoked by it, so they draw conclusions and immediately comment outside the actual context of the video, actually in Islam it teaches good things so always remember worship, even if you are a gambler or criminals, it's good that worship should never be abandoned because that way it will make people lose their way and make themselves worse.

Any worship will prevent us from doing something other evil in the future, maybe that's what is meant and captured from this video, acting as good people will help us become better later, therefore I can't comment much about this video before watching it's finished videos properly.

I think that is pretty much about the video, despite the inclination about gambling for the muslim faith and infact most other religions regarding to gambling but to keep the worship or prayers going on. I believe if you drop the prayer and followship because you are doing a particular sin it will lead you into deeper sins that coming out will be a longer process, that is what I understand in the video but on the other hand I'm thinking that is a subtle way to give approval to gambling by the muslim faith and not to judge or condemn theirselves yet.

[topbitcoin]

Just tickled and made me laugh out loud when I read the thread about the concept of a halal casino. I like gambling, but I also don't have the courage to justify my actions from a religious point of view, that the activities I do are right and lawful. still religiously gambling is an act that is wrong and unlawful.

After all, when talking about a scholar they have many followers, so he must consider everything when he wants to express an opinion, because this does not only affect himself but also his followers. and I really regret that there is a scholar who put forward the concept of a halal casino, which in its provisions is clearly unlawful and cannot be contested.

[robelneo]

What I understand in the explanation of Mufti Menk is if you are in a place that is considered Haram (forbidden or proscribed by Islamic law) it means that you can still do something that is Halal (lawful or permitted) you can eat food that is halal or do your thing in accordance to Muslim laws.

This concept is for our Muslim brothers but for us Christians, there are some sects that support gambling and some are not, and our Muslims have one law that they follow when it comes to haram and halal, but at the end of the day, everything are all about respect to one's religious belief when it comes to gambling.

[Gozie51]

This concept is for our Muslim brothers but for us Christians, there are some sects that support gambling and some are not, and our Muslims have one law that they follow when it comes to haram and halal, but at the end of the day, everything are all about respect to one's religious belief when it comes to gambling.

Despite the individual decisions towards gambling which may be traced to economic situation for those who believe that they can add gambling as a source of income to meet up to family needs but I don't think the christians has a sect of the religion that also support gambling. At least I have not heard of a pastor preaching and advising their converts at the pupit to gamble. What I have heard is their condemnation of it using the example at the synagogue where Jesus Christ threw the gambling materials away and the gamblers were scolded.

[YOSHIE]

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

As far as I know Jews, Christians and Muslims have a Bible about gambling, basically gambling is forbidden for them, that's as far as I know what I've read and seen, so what was conveyed by YouTube Mufti Menk, that is my assessment only as his opinion, of course there are many comments that I have read regarding the responses he conveyed about the Halal Casino Concept.

Maybe, at this time we have to think wisely, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are divided into several groups, so we have to really understand Mufti Menk, whether he is a genuine Muslim or a group Islam, if he was real muslim i'm sure he would be embarrassed to say all that, but gambling is still gambling, haram and halal it all depends on how they think, nowadays i think islam is quite enthusiastic about online gambling, that's a fact, even though their fatwa forbids it.

[Beparanf]

This video is very necessary for Muslims. Because it will create a new concept about casino among them. Because Islam does not support gambling. However, not only this video, but more detailed study is required to know the Muslim religious opinion about gambling. Local religious leaders can be discussed if necessary.

The video doesn’t show any support on a casino nor Muslim doing gambling. It discuss only the importance of being Halal even inside the casino so that sinners will not commit more mistakes but it doesn’t support casino or condoning gambling as being good. Muslim religious leader opinion towards gambling will never change since it's their religious law.

[Dickiy]

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

From my point of view, thumbnails clearly combine 2 conflicting elements. Because he was the first to associate gambling with religious symbols. In Islam itself, gambling is ultimately prohibited and the law is final and cannot be tolerated anymore. Any kind of anything related to gambling is illegal.
Now, interestingly, in this video there is no translation feature into another language because it is turned off, so it is limited to understanding the content conveyed by Mufti Menk. But if we look in the comments column, we find positive feedback, so my view is reminded of the saying: never judge other people from the outside, but see what they have to say. this sentence applies to the video so we found no explanation at all about gambling.

[Haunebu]

Why the heck would any person with a brain associate gambling with religion? It's nonsensical in so many ways. Gambling brings together people from across the world regardless of their religion, caste, sex etc.

Crypto gambling sites take it one step further by trying to allow them to gamble anonymously without outside interference to some extent which has been getting tougher and tougher recently.

This is why I and many other love the world of gambling. Think!

[salad daging]

Unfortunately, the content didn't have a language translator, so I didn't understand all of the content.

I will not comment more because it is clear that the Islamic religion strictly prohibits gambling this is a commandment from God, back to each one in his perception when you know this is haram then stop gambling, I am the same gambling is haram will not deny it.

Stick to your own choices, I know what to do. Have fun