Concept of Halal Casino

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So what's the conclusion?

I get what you're saying, gambling is haram, but you as someone who know gambling is haram still gamble and you think it's not right. Why? it's like contradict about your belief and your action.

Gambling is still gambling and it is haram, someone who gambles certainly has consequences against God. They know it's a sin (including me). There is nothing contradictory, We are adults, have our own minds, break God's rules, follow God's rules or whatever. That is the way of life a person chooses. I think this will be OOT, so I will make it simple, there is nothing to explains, I have own reason why I'm doing that. 

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Not really, conventional bank is haram in Islam, but if the bank is using Islamic name e.g. sharia and then they claimed to not offering interest rate, actually it's legal. Do you want to say Sharia bank is haram? you will get mocked and bullied by Muslims

Haram is haram. There is no other excuse. Taking interest in return for the money lent is not allowed. No matter what Sharia bank or Islami bank calls it. Most of them call it as service charge, or whatever, it's haram. I am Muslim myself and I know it's Haram. If some bullies me because of that, I will take that. In case they can teach me something new.

If someone open a bar a of vodka in the name of Islam, it won't become halam vodka. If people say Bismillah before they drink vodka, it won't become a halal drink. Real practicing Muslims won't debate regarding these things. They will say I said what I had to. No need to spread Fitna.

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Not really, conventional bank is haram in Islam, but if the bank is using Islamic name e.g. sharia and then they claimed to not offering interest rate, actually it's legal. Do you want to say Sharia bank is haram? you will get mocked and bullied by Muslims

Haram is haram. There is no other excuse. Taking interest in return for the money lent is not allowed. No matter what Sharia bank or Islami bank calls it. Most of them call it as service charge, or whatever, it's haram. I am Muslim myself and I know it's Haram. If some bullies me because of that, I will take that. In case they can teach me something new.

If someone open a bar a of vodka in the name of Islam, it won't become halam vodka. If people say Bismillah before they drink vodka, it won't become a halal drink. Real practicing Muslims won't debate regarding these things. They will say I said what I had to. No need to spread Fitna.

You are right, I am also a Muslim and taking interest is forbidden in Islam according to Sharia. Some scholars argue that Islamic banks are halal. How can this be, I don't believe it, well, how is Islami Bank surviving? Of course, they receive interest on loans. According to some scholars, some people consider it halal to earn interest by keeping money in Islamic banks. Islamic banks, however, give interest on a certain amount of money. Islami bank is haram even if it is named according to Shariah.

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Casino is casino it is always haram for muslims. Casino is a form of gambling and Muslim religion never considers gambling as halal. I don't know how he calls casino halal and how he found halal casino. They seem like complete scams. I am really shocked by this   From what I know of Islam I would never believe that casinos could ever be halal

Why are you guys making assumptions from your own side without even watching the video? The thumbnail that you see on YouTube videos doesn't always show what the content is about and how that thumbnail is related to the concept being discussed within the video. You my friend didn't watch the video and I can clearly see that by reading your post because if you had spent about 2 to 3 minutes watching the video, you would understand what it is all about.

OP here asked a question related to the video that he shared which doesn't mean that he is saying there is such a concept in Islam, and if you watch the video, that scholar called Mufti Menk is explaining something else and he never said that there are halal casinos or there is halal gambling is Islam.

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Not really, conventional bank is haram in Islam, but if the bank is using Islamic name e.g. sharia and then they claimed to not offering interest rate, actually it's legal. Do you want to say Sharia bank is haram? you will get mocked and bullied by Muslims

Haram is haram. There is no other excuse. Taking interest in return for the money lent is not allowed. No matter what Sharia bank or Islami bank calls it. Most of them call it as service charge, or whatever, it's haram. I am Muslim myself and I know it's Haram. If some bullies me because of that, I will take that. In case they can teach me something new.

If someone open a bar a of vodka in the name of Islam, it won't become halam vodka. If people say Bismillah before they drink vodka, it won't become a halal drink. Real practicing Muslims won't debate regarding these things. They will say I said what I had to. No need to spread Fitna.

You are right, I am also a Muslim and taking interest is forbidden in Islam according to Sharia. Some scholars argue that Islamic banks are halal. How can this be, I don't believe it, well, how is Islami Bank surviving? Of course, they receive interest on loans. According to some scholars, some people consider it halal to earn interest by keeping money in Islamic banks. Islamic banks, however, give interest on a certain amount of money. Islami bank is haram even if it is named according to Shariah.

Something that is haram is haram. Nothing can change it. And those who already know that it is haram will not approach it. But until now, many people still gamble, and they have their own reasons. We cannot prevent them from continuing to gamble even though it is clear in religion that gambling is haram or prohibited because they do it without coercion.

But for anyone who has sinned, he is still allowed to do good. Those who have committed sins must repent and not repeat sins, even though some still repeat other sins. And no perfect human can be clean from sin, and that is why we humans are required to repent to cleanse the sins we have committed.

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Something that is haram is haram. Nothing can change it. And those who already know that it is haram will not approach it. But until now, many people still gamble, and they have their own reasons. We cannot prevent them from continuing to gamble even though it is clear in religion that gambling is haram or prohibited because they do it without coercion.

But for anyone who has sinned, he is still allowed to do good. Those who have committed sins must repent and not repeat sins, even though some still repeat other sins. And no perfect human can be clean from sin, and that is why we humans are required to repent to cleanse the sins we have committed.

True. Haram is Haram. No matter what some Mufti or Alim say. It's not true that Muslims won't approach Haram. There are millions of Muslims earning Haram income and spending them in Haram place as well. Every Muslims does not care about Halal and Haram. Only Practicing Muslims care about Halal and Haram. For example, I am a Muslim and sometimes I gamble as well. Money won from gambling is Haram. yet sometimes I do it. No matter whatever excuse I give, those money are Haram and yet I am doing it. It's a sin in my religion. I always promise myself that I won't repeat these things but I end up doing it. Even though I am doing it, I won't say it's Halal. Because Haram is Haram. 

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Something that is haram is haram. Nothing can change it. And those who already know that it is haram will not approach it. But until now, many people still gamble, and they have their own reasons. We cannot prevent them from continuing to gamble even though it is clear in religion that gambling is haram or prohibited because they do it without coercion.

But for anyone who has sinned, he is still allowed to do good. Those who have committed sins must repent and not repeat sins, even though some still repeat other sins. And no perfect human can be clean from sin, and that is why we humans are required to repent to cleanse the sins we have committed.

True. Haram is Haram. No matter what some Mufti or Alim say. It's not true that Muslims won't approach Haram. There are millions of Muslims earning Haram income and spending them in Haram place as well. Every Muslims does not care about Halal and Haram. Only Practicing Muslims care about Halal and Haram. For example, I am a Muslim and sometimes I gamble as well. Money won from gambling is Haram. yet sometimes I do it. No matter whatever excuse I give, those money are Haram and yet I am doing it. It's a sin in my religion. I always promise myself that I won't repeat these things but I end up doing it. Even though I am doing it, I won't say it's Halal. Because Haram is Haram. 

You are absolutely right haram can never be halal, we know that gambling and making money from staking is completely haram in the eyes of Islam. In every religion everyone sees bad deeds as haram, gambling is never halal, if any Huzur or Maulana says it is halal then it is completely wrong. Earnings from gambling are always haram if a person considers it haram then surely it will be a wrong decision for that person. I have also played such gambling many times lost bet win from there, but I will never call this gambling halal, always haram. But I will say that people who consider this gambling as halal can never be a good person because people who don't know about halal and haram can never make good decisions in future. Even if he donates the money he earns from gambling to a good cause, that money is considered haram.

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Haram is haram. There is no other excuse. Taking interest in return for the money lent is not allowed. No matter what Sharia bank or Islami bank calls it. Most of them call it as service charge, or whatever, it's haram. I am Muslim myself and I know it's Haram. If some bullies me because of that, I will take that. In case they can teach me something new.

If someone open a bar a of vodka in the name of Islam, it won't become halam vodka. If people say Bismillah before they drink vodka, it won't become a halal drink. Real practicing Muslims won't debate regarding these things. They will say I said what I had to. No need to spread Fitna.

You are right, I am also a Muslim and taking interest is forbidden in Islam according to Sharia. Some scholars argue that Islamic banks are halal. How can this be, I don't believe it, well, how is Islami Bank surviving? Of course, they receive interest on loans. According to some scholars, some people consider it halal to earn interest by keeping money in Islamic banks. Islamic banks, however, give interest on a certain amount of money. Islami bank is haram even if it is named according to Shariah.

A Shariah-compliant bank doesn't issue interest-based loans to its customers, because as you said, taking interest is prohibited in Islam. If a bank calls themselves to be Shariah-compliant and is still dealing in interest through loans,, they are big liars, and someone who practices religion and doesn't want to get involved should never use such a bank or take a loan from them because it is not just about the words but it is all about the actions that are taken.

So, someone who follows Islam religion and also want to take a loan from a bank, they need to make sure that they find a bank that gives them an interest-free loan where once they repay the whole amount, they are free from the loan and would not be asked to pay anything extra on top of that.

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A Shariah-compliant bank doesn't issue interest-based loans to its customers, because as you said, taking interest is prohibited in Islam. If a bank calls themselves to be Shariah-compliant and is still dealing in interest through loans,, they are big liars, and someone who practices religion and doesn't want to get involved should never use such a bank or take a loan from them because it is not just about the words but it is all about the actions that are taken.

So, someone who follows Islam religion and also want to take a loan from a bank, they need to make sure that they find a bank that gives them an interest-free loan where once they repay the whole amount, they are free from the loan and would not be asked to pay anything extra on top of that.

If banks do not charge interest on loans, the complete banking sector will be destroyed. How they will make money without charging interest on loans? The transaction fees, account maintenance fees and other fees are not enough money to run a bank because the expense of a bank is huge. Their main income comes from loan interest.

No matter what Islami banks or Sharia banks say, they are charging money for the loan which is interest. They don't call it interest directly. They named it as service charge which is interest. I hope you understand my point. Anyways, this thread is about Halal casino which is impossible.

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Haram is haram. There is no other excuse. Taking interest in return for the money lent is not allowed. No matter what Sharia bank or Islami bank calls it. Most of them call it as service charge, or whatever, it's haram. I am Muslim myself and I know it's Haram. If some bullies me because of that, I will take that. In case they can teach me something new.

If someone open a bar a of vodka in the name of Islam, it won't become halam vodka. If people say Bismillah before they drink vodka, it won't become a halal drink. Real practicing Muslims won't debate regarding these things. They will say I said what I had to. No need to spread Fitna.

You are right, I am also a Muslim and taking interest is forbidden in Islam according to Sharia. Some scholars argue that Islamic banks are halal. How can this be, I don't believe it, well, how is Islami Bank surviving? Of course, they receive interest on loans. According to some scholars, some people consider it halal to earn interest by keeping money in Islamic banks. Islamic banks, however, give interest on a certain amount of money. Islami bank is haram even if it is named according to Shariah.

A Shariah-compliant bank doesn't issue interest-based loans to its customers, because as you said, taking interest is prohibited in Islam. If a bank calls themselves to be Shariah-compliant and is still dealing in interest through loans,, they are big liars, and someone who practices religion and doesn't want to get involved should never use such a bank or take a loan from them because it is not just about the words but it is all about the actions that are taken.

So, someone who follows Islam religion and also want to take a loan from a bank, they need to make sure that they find a bank that gives them an interest-free loan where once they repay the whole amount, they are free from the loan and would not be asked to pay anything extra on top of that.

Nowadays, I think the evil spirit is even confused with what Muslims are doing.. lol  . They are looking for halal food in casinos. They are saying they are going to build halal casinos when they clearly know that interest/usury/riba is strictly prohibited in Islam. I understand what Mufti Menk was saying. Just because if a person is committing a sin does not mean that he can commit any sin that he likes at that particular time. This is happening because most teams have gone away from their holy book.

Let’s be honest, even though banks who call themselves, Islamic banks or Islami bank etc are not out of usury/interest. The economy of the whole world runs on interest-rate now. One of the most powerful countries in the world, America is built on interest and they are running the world now. So how do you think any bank can call themselves Islami bank right now?

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Nowadays, I think the evil spirit is even confused with what Muslims are doing.. lol  . They are looking for halal food in casinos. They are saying they are going to build halal casinos when they clearly know that interest/usury/riba is strictly prohibited in Islam.

I guess you are right. I have heard that Iblish (The evil) cannot go outside during Ramadan. Iblis is the evil who encourages humans to do wrong things. Then why do people do bad things during Ramadan? The Iblis is locked; who encourages them to do bad things? Actually, Humans are already one step ahead of the evil spirit. I can relate to what you mean, and I agree with that.

Let’s be honest, even though banks who call themselves, Islamic banks or Islami bank etc are not out of usury/interest. The economy of the whole world runs on interest-rate now. One of the most powerful countries in the world, America is built on interest and they are running the world now. So how do you think any bank can call themselves Islami bank right now?

Precisely, this is what I tried to explain in my previous post. The banks cannot run without taking interest as it's the main income source of banks. If someone drinks alcohol, saying it's Islamic alcohol, it won't become halal for Muslims. Practicing Muslims should avoid taking and giving interest if they care about it.

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scholar called Mufti Menk is explaining something else and he never said that there are halal casinos or there is halal gambling is Islam.

Yes, there would never be a Halal casino is Islam. Those who watched the video knows that he is explaining things a bit differently.

Anyway, we have had enough of the discussion on this and by now everyone has clear their thoughts about it.

I am locking this topic now.