[Boxing] Casimero vs Oguni - October 12

[Sanitough]

Of course, he had been heard and known already, he is even in the pound for pound list. But US fans wanted to see the Japanese monster and really be the name from Asia. Just like Manny Pacquiao is, even after he retires, he has been given so much respect by the boxing community in the US and whenever he goes to watch live fights, everyone is very happy to see the living legend and even his former nemesis are there for Manny.

Definitely, that's what Inoue's team should do if they want to gain recognition worldwide. Inoue has the same skills as Manny Pacquiao, and perhaps even better, but he isn't as much of a risk-taker as Manny, who would fight anyone, even when some people didn't think he could beat them. I mean, he kept proving the experts wrong every time he move up in weight and stepped into the ring. That's because he still had the speed and power, and, mind you, he wasn't a boxer afraid of losing; all he wanted was to entertain the fans, as they deserved.

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[Oasisman]

Just like what Top Rank's did to Manny and now to Inoue. They have the blue print to make a good fighters to be great and legendary by careful match making. But just imagine if Manny doesn't have the power or the charisma he had in the ring, he wouldn't be that great though.

Inoue was already popular before he joined Top Rank. If I remember correctly, he only joined after he beat Donaire in their first fight. I thought that when he joined Top Rank, he would have more fights outside his country, but he still chose to fight in Japan rather than in the USA. I'm not sure if Inoue is making more money fighting in Japan or in the USA. How can Top Rank maximize the potential income?

He'd still earn good figures in Japan as he has the full support of his countrymen, not to mention he'd also attract tourist to watch him fight live. So, Inoue fighting in Japan could help their tourism businesses as well. However, this won't stay longer especially when boxing fans starts to become disinterested due to the fact that he's not fighting outside Japan.
Inoue needs to explore more of his career in fighting outside his territory, it would help him become even better with where he is right now.

[inthelongrun]

Of course, he had been heard and known already, he is even in the pound for pound list. But US fans wanted to see the Japanese monster and really be the name from Asia. Just like Manny Pacquiao is, even after he retires, he has been given so much respect by the boxing community in the US and whenever he goes to watch live fights, everyone is very happy to see the living legend and even his former nemesis are there for Manny.

Definitely, that's what Inoue's team should do if they want to gain recognition worldwide. Inoue has the same skills as Manny Pacquiao, and perhaps even better, but he isn't as much of a risk-taker as Manny, who would fight anyone, even when some people didn't think he could beat them. I mean, he kept proving the experts wrong every time he move up in weight and stepped into the ring. That's because he still had the speed and power, and, mind you, he wasn't a boxer afraid of losing; all he wanted was to entertain the fans, as they deserved.

I believe both Naoya Inoue and Manny Pacquiao are both risk-takers. But both have their own different ways of risking their careers. Opportunity costs a lot in this sport since fighters have limited years in their prime.

Pacman (retired):
- Was only 19 years old when he won his first world title.
- The only 8-division champion in the history of the sport.
- The only 5-division lineal champion in the history of the sport.

The cost of Pacman's constant moving up in weight:
- Zero undisputed
- He never really became a unified champion. He only fought another belt holder twice in his long career and failed to win both

Monster (active):
- 20 years old when he won his first world title.
- He only had 5 wins when he fought for his first world title.
- After only 7 wins he moved up in weight for his second-division world title fight. This might be the fastest in the history of the sport.
- 1 time undisputed champion
- 4 division world champion
- 2 division lineal champion
- 2 division unified champion

The cost of Inoue spending 4 years of his prime to unify the belts at 118 might have put his limits as to how many divisions he could take in his remaining years.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

^^ But I think Manny did the right thing though, moving up in weight winning 8 divisions and now he has become a legend. And could be in the argument for one of the best, GOAT in boxing. As let's say to Floyd's unblemished record, but if you have to compare him and Manny, what Pacman accomplished was greater as it hard to beat that record and maybe it will stand for many years that not even Inoue can break it if he wanted to. But fighting in the US, could really be good for Inoue's exposure and of course getting huge money as well.

[Ziskinberg]

^^ But I think Manny did the right thing though, moving up in weight winning 8 divisions and now he has become a legend. And could be in the argument for one of the best, GOAT in boxing. As let's say to Floyd's unblemished record, but if you have to compare him and Manny, what Pacman accomplished was greater as it hard to beat that record and maybe it will stand for many years that not even Inoue can break it if he wanted to. But fighting in the US, could really be good for Inoue's exposure and of course getting huge money as well.

He did the right thing because his promoter knows where the bigger market is, compared to Inoue, who can still make a lot of money even if he only fights in Japan. But it cannot be denied that he will make more if the fight is held in the USA. I don't know what their plan is, but right now, in terms of career development, Inoue is on the right path. Maybe next time he moves up in weight, he'll focus his fights in the US.

[Iranus]

Of course, he had been heard and known already, he is even in the pound for pound list. But US fans wanted to see the Japanese monster and really be the name from Asia. Just like Manny Pacquiao is, even after he retires, he has been given so much respect by the boxing community in the US and whenever he goes to watch live fights, everyone is very happy to see the living legend and even his former nemesis are there for Manny.

Definitely, that's what Inoue's team should do if they want to gain recognition worldwide. Inoue has the same skills as Manny Pacquiao, and perhaps even better, but he isn't as much of a risk-taker as Manny, who would fight anyone, even when some people didn't think he could beat them. I mean, he kept proving the experts wrong every time he move up in weight and stepped into the ring. That's because he still had the speed and power, and, mind you, he wasn't a boxer afraid of losing; all he wanted was to entertain the fans, as they deserved.

Remember that Manny Pacquiao was a champion in five/eight different weight classes? He was the champion of eight different weight classes, to be honest.

Not only Inoue I actually think that there is no one in this world right now who is actually going to take a risk like that. In this day and age, everyone likes to play it safe. And he is definitely also like that. In this era, people are more interested in having a career which is really perfect. It's like if you do not have like 100 wins and zero losses you are not a good fighter. And of course, I don't think we can actually blame any fighter for taking things easy and careful.

[Shamm]

^^ But I think Manny did the right thing though, moving up in weight winning 8 divisions and now he has become a legend. And could be in the argument for one of the best, GOAT in boxing. As let's say to Floyd's unblemished record, but if you have to compare him and Manny, what Pacman accomplished was greater as it hard to beat that record and maybe it will stand for many years that not even Inoue can break it if he wanted to. But fighting in the US, could really be good for Inoue's exposure and of course getting huge money as well.

You know what the pretty boy Mayweather is too far from Manny pacman Pacquiao ad we all know and saw how he fight Floyd has the strategy of backing once his opponent are stronger than him we won't give a belt to belt fight which is pretty bad for me. That's the reason why he has the name of pretty boy because his face is very protective by his elbow and arms. While Manny pacman gives us an exciting match a belt to belt punches until both of them felt slow.

[Kemarit]

^^ But I think Manny did the right thing though, moving up in weight winning 8 divisions and now he has become a legend. And could be in the argument for one of the best, GOAT in boxing. As let's say to Floyd's unblemished record, but if you have to compare him and Manny, what Pacman accomplished was greater as it hard to beat that record and maybe it will stand for many years that not even Inoue can break it if he wanted to. But fighting in the US, could really be good for Inoue's exposure and of course getting huge money as well.

He did the right thing because his promoter knows where the bigger market is, compared to Inoue, who can still make a lot of money even if he only fights in Japan. But it cannot be denied that he will make more if the fight is held in the USA. I don't know what their plan is, but right now, in terms of career development, Inoue is on the right path. Maybe next time he moves up in weight, he'll focus his fights in the US.

Exactly, US is the mecca of boxing, so it's better for Inoue to make his fights in the US and risk everything.
Of course, they are making as well good money in the US, but if you wanted to cement your legacy and chasing the biggest audience that will be the US of A.
But we can't do anything if his Japanese handlers are in their comfort in Japan.
There might be language barriers, but Top Rank is there to work with them.
Not sure how long is Inoue's contract though, maybe when he is on his last term with Top Rank, perhaps he will be fighting in the US.
But for now, he seems to not compromise his career and just steadily fighting in his home country.

[Ziskinberg]

^^ But I think Manny did the right thing though, moving up in weight winning 8 divisions and now he has become a legend. And could be in the argument for one of the best, GOAT in boxing. As let's say to Floyd's unblemished record, but if you have to compare him and Manny, what Pacman accomplished was greater as it hard to beat that record and maybe it will stand for many years that not even Inoue can break it if he wanted to. But fighting in the US, could really be good for Inoue's exposure and of course getting huge money as well.

He did the right thing because his promoter knows where the bigger market is, compared to Inoue, who can still make a lot of money even if he only fights in Japan. But it cannot be denied that he will make more if the fight is held in the USA. I don't know what their plan is, but right now, in terms of career development, Inoue is on the right path. Maybe next time he moves up in weight, he'll focus his fights in the US.

Exactly, US is the mecca of boxing, so it's better for Inoue to make his fights in the US and risk everything.
Of course, they are making as well good money in the US, but if you wanted to cement your legacy and chasing the biggest audience that will be the US of A.
But we can't do anything if his Japanese handlers are in their comfort in Japan.
There might be language barriers, but Top Rank is there to work with them.
Not sure how long is Inoue's contract though, maybe when he is on his last term with Top Rank, perhaps he will be fighting in the US.
But for now, he seems to not compromise his career and just steadily fighting in his home country.

Top Rank hasn't been dictating where Inoue would fight. I read that he only signed with Top Rank for a co-promotional agreement, which means it's not Top Rank that has total control. I believe he signed in 2019 and announced it after the fight with Donaire, so it's been more than three years already. He has had six fights under Top Rank, but only two of the fights were held in the US: his fights with Jason Moloney and Michael Dasmarinas.

[carlisle1]

^^ But I think Manny did the right thing though, moving up in weight winning 8 divisions and now he has become a legend. And could be in the argument for one of the best, GOAT in boxing. As let's say to Floyd's unblemished record, but if you have to compare him and Manny, what Pacman accomplished was greater as it hard to beat that record and maybe it will stand for many years that not even Inoue can break it if he wanted to. But fighting in the US, could really be good for Inoue's exposure and of course getting huge money as well.

You know what the pretty boy Mayweather is too far from Manny pacman Pacquiao ad we all know and saw how he fight Floyd has the strategy of backing once his opponent are stronger than him we won't give a belt to belt fight which is pretty bad for me. That's the reason why he has the name of pretty boy because his face is very protective by his elbow and arms. While Manny pacman gives us an exciting match a belt to belt punches until both of them felt slow.

Not to hijack this thread but yes, Floyd and Manny are different, as how the post above you describe it and how you state your own
interpretation, Floyd uses his tactics and keeps that clean records.

While Manny brings all the excitement and we know how popular he is not just in front of his countrymen, but also he gains the love all around the world.

And, hopefully if ever Casimero will have that chance to meet Inoue inside the ring, he will show something that will hype his
name, more on the side where opportunity might open up for after this upcoming fight.

[bisdak40]

And, hopefully if ever Casimero will have that chance to meet Inoue inside the ring, he will show something that will hype his
name, more on the side where opportunity might open up for after this upcoming fight.

Though i'm a fan of Casimero but i think he will lose to Inoue if ever they will meet in the future. Casimero has power, we knew that but Inoue has a granite chin, we saw that when he fought Donaire, though his jaw was broken but still he stood standing and finished the fight gallantly.

But Inoue vs Casimero will be interesting to ordinary fans and tickets might sell like hotcakes if Quadro Alas would start opening his mount and taunt Inoue.

[Yaunfitda]

And, hopefully if ever Casimero will have that chance to meet Inoue inside the ring, he will show something that will hype his
name, more on the side where opportunity might open up for after this upcoming fight.

Though i'm a fan of Casimero but i think he will lose to Inoue if ever they will meet in the future. Casimero has power, we knew that but Inoue has a granite chin, we saw that when he fought Donaire, though his jaw was broken but still he stood standing and finished the fight gallantly.

But Inoue vs Casimero will be interesting to ordinary fans and tickets might sell like hotcakes if Quadro Alas would start opening his mount and taunt Inoue.

Regardless of us being a fan though of Casimero, we still wanted to see if he can back up all his talks about Inoue. I mean he is a trash talking, very uncanny for a Filipino boxer. But I guess that's what his personality is, and again, I follow his social media accounts and it seems that he is also helping back his community with the money he earn from boxing and help his family.

Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if he taunt Inoue again after he wins his fight again Oguni, specially if it will be in spectacular fashion like a knockout win because that will boost his confidence againt call out Inoue for a showdown.

[Natalim]

And, hopefully if ever Casimero will have that chance to meet Inoue inside the ring, he will show something that will hype his
name, more on the side where opportunity might open up for after this upcoming fight.

Though i'm a fan of Casimero but i think he will lose to Inoue if ever they will meet in the future. Casimero has power, we knew that but Inoue has a granite chin, we saw that when he fought Donaire, though his jaw was broken but still he stood standing and finished the fight gallantly.

But Inoue vs Casimero will be interesting to ordinary fans and tickets might sell like hotcakes if Quadro Alas would start opening his mount and taunt Inoue.

Regardless of us being a fan though of Casimero, we still wanted to see if he can back up all his talks about Inoue. I mean he is a trash talking, very uncanny for a Filipino boxer. But I guess that's what his personality is, and again, I follow his social media accounts and it seems that he is also helping back his community with the money he earn from boxing and help his family.

Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if he taunt Inoue again after he wins his fight again Oguni, specially if it will be in spectacular fashion like a knockout win because that will boost his confidence againt call out Inoue for a showdown.

Boxing is a business, and no matter how good a boxer is, if he doesn't know how to market a fight and promote himself, promoters may be hesitant to keep him in the spotlight. Casimero understands that Inoue is his best chance to become a popular boxer, so he is doing everything he can to gain Inoue's attention, hoping that one day Inoue's camp will sign a contract for a fight. Casimero might have a rougher journey compared to Inoue, but we have to admit that he is the closest rival to Inoue right now, and people see that as the reason they are supporting Casimero with his taunting style.

[Jating]

And, hopefully if ever Casimero will have that chance to meet Inoue inside the ring, he will show something that will hype his
name, more on the side where opportunity might open up for after this upcoming fight.

Though i'm a fan of Casimero but i think he will lose to Inoue if ever they will meet in the future. Casimero has power, we knew that but Inoue has a granite chin, we saw that when he fought Donaire, though his jaw was broken but still he stood standing and finished the fight gallantly.

But Inoue vs Casimero will be interesting to ordinary fans and tickets might sell like hotcakes if Quadro Alas would start opening his mount and taunt Inoue.

Regardless of us being a fan though of Casimero, we still wanted to see if he can back up all his talks about Inoue. I mean he is a trash talking, very uncanny for a Filipino boxer. But I guess that's what his personality is, and again, I follow his social media accounts and it seems that he is also helping back his community with the money he earn from boxing and help his family.

Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if he taunt Inoue again after he wins his fight again Oguni, specially if it will be in spectacular fashion like a knockout win because that will boost his confidence againt call out Inoue for a showdown.

Boxing is a business, and no matter how good a boxer is, if he doesn't know how to market a fight and promote himself, promoters may be hesitant to keep him in the spotlight. Casimero understands that Inoue is his best chance to become a popular boxer, so he is doing everything he can to gain Inoue's attention, hoping that one day Inoue's camp will sign a contract for a fight. Casimero might have a rougher journey compared to Inoue, but we have to admit that he is the closest rival to Inoue right now, and people see that as the reason they are supporting Casimero with his taunting style.

For now, yes, we can say that he could be the best bet for us to beat Inoue, and obviously, they haven't face so we can say that. But before Casimero, the same was said by Fulton himself and thinks he can just manhandled Inoue at super bantamweight as he is the champion and he has beaten a lot of great boxers in the past and hasn't lost yet, and he is still improving from what I seen.

But Inoue proved how great he is. Although we can say that Fulton is not a knockout artist or doesn't have that power as compare to Casimero. So still a great fight if we will ever see this two in top of the ring and see if Casimero has what it takes and do the thing that other boxers failed, that is to beat Inoue.

[Shamm]

And, hopefully if ever Casimero will have that chance to meet Inoue inside the ring, he will show something that will hype his
name, more on the side where opportunity might open up for after this upcoming fight.

Though i'm a fan of Casimero but i think he will lose to Inoue if ever they will meet in the future. Casimero has power, we knew that but Inoue has a granite chin, we saw that when he fought Donaire, though his jaw was broken but still he stood standing and finished the fight gallantly.

But Inoue vs Casimero will be interesting to ordinary fans and tickets might sell like hotcakes if Quadro Alas would start opening his mount and taunt Inoue.

Regardless of us being a fan though of Casimero, we still wanted to see if he can back up all his talks about Inoue. I mean he is a trash talking, very uncanny for a Filipino boxer. But I guess that's what his personality is, and again, I follow his social media accounts and it seems that he is also helping back his community with the money he earn from boxing and help his family.

Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if he taunt Inoue again after he wins his fight again Oguni, specially if it will be in spectacular fashion like a knockout win because that will boost his confidence againt call out Inoue for a showdown.

Boxing is a business, and no matter how good a boxer is, if he doesn't know how to market a fight and promote himself, promoters may be hesitant to keep him in the spotlight. Casimero understands that Inoue is his best chance to become a popular boxer, so he is doing everything he can to gain Inoue's attention, hoping that one day Inoue's camp will sign a contract for a fight. Casimero might have a rougher journey compared to Inoue, but we have to admit that he is the closest rival to Inoue right now, and people see that as the reason they are supporting Casimero with his taunting style.

For now, yes, we can say that he could be the best bet for us to beat Inoue, and obviously, they haven't face so we can say that. But before Casimero, the same was said by Fulton himself and thinks he can just manhandled Inoue at super bantamweight as he is the champion and he has beaten a lot of great boxers in the past and hasn't lost yet, and he is still improving from what I seen.

But Inoue proved how great he is. Although we can say that Fulton is not a knockout artist or doesn't have that power as compare to Casimero. So still a great fight if we will ever see this two in top of the ring and see if Casimero has what it takes and do the thing that other boxers failed, that is to beat Inoue.

Casimero must do a good observation in order that a plan how he defeat inoue as we all know that the monster inoue is not just an easy fighter he is a good and talented one so for sure casimero   will take this as a serious cause one mistake he make when they are fighting for sure casimero will loss. But for now hoping casimero will win against oguni as we all know that he must win this fight before he will face inoue.

[Sanitough]

Casimero must do a good observation in order that a plan how he defeat inoue as we all know that the monster inoue is not just an easy fighter he is a good and talented one so for sure casimero   will take this as a serious cause one mistake he make when they are fighting for sure casimero will loss. But for now hoping casimero will win against oguni as we all know that he must win this fight before he will face inoue.

That's not Casimero's first priority; he certainly knows how to win, as he is currently on a winning streak. In my opinion, Casimero is more focused on how he can secure a fight against Inoue, and the rest will follow. As for his upcoming opponent, who is also Japanese, Oguni isn't a quality boxer, at least not at the current time, so I doubt this fight will be competitive, and Casimero will likely not struggle.

[Reatim]

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It is just announced a few hours ago that Casimero will be back in the ring against another Japanese fighter in Oguni on October 12 at Ariake Arena in Japan.

The good thing about this card is that many Filipino fighters will be fighting in the undercard.

Will update the OP once there are available odds and updates about the subject.

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how I wish that it is Inoue that he is fighting but since this is another Japanese then lets assume that this is about country that stands in their name , and also in this it is Casimero that will be the favorite,
and with many Filipino that partaking un undercard then there will be more to watch here.

Casimero must do a good observation in order that a plan how he defeat inoue as we all know that the monster inoue is not just an easy fighter he is a good and talented one so for sure casimero   will take this as a serious cause one mistake he make when they are fighting for sure casimero will loss. But for now hoping casimero will win against oguni as we all know that he must win this fight before he will face inoue.

That's not Casimero's first priority; he certainly knows how to win, as he is currently on a winning streak. In my opinion, Casimero is more focused on how he can secure a fight against Inoue, and the rest will follow. As for his upcoming opponent, who is also Japanese, Oguni isn't a quality boxer, at least not at the current time, so I doubt this fight will be competitive, and Casimero will likely not struggle.

lets not talk about Inoue because this is a different opponent , and for me Casimero knows what he is doing and that shows in his great record as boxer .

[carlisle1]

Casimero must do a good observation in order that a plan how he defeat inoue as we all know that the monster inoue is not just an easy fighter he is a good and talented one so for sure casimero   will take this as a serious cause one mistake he make when they are fighting for sure casimero will loss. But for now hoping casimero will win against oguni as we all know that he must win this fight before he will face inoue.

That's not Casimero's first priority; he certainly knows how to win, as he is currently on a winning streak. In my opinion, Casimero is more focused on how he can secure a fight against Inoue, and the rest will follow. As for his upcoming opponent, who is also Japanese, Oguni isn't a quality boxer, at least not at the current time, so I doubt this fight will be competitive, and Casimero will likely not struggle.

Though his opponent is no longer in his prime, Casimero still needs a win with a big hype under his name. Winning it with an early KO
might bring the attention to the crowd.

Especially that he's fighting against a Japanese fighter where pride is really important, winning it with a KO or taking his opponent down with something
that vlogger can write a good story behind might really spark the interest of promoters to set him up against Inoue.

An important win to make or create a noise for your name and push the intensity to bring himself closer to Inoue's next challenger.

[stadus]

Though his opponent is no longer in his prime, Casimero still needs a win with a big hype under his name. Winning it with an early KO
might bring the attention to the crowd.

Especially that he's fighting against a Japanese fighter where pride is really important, winning it with a KO or taking his opponent down with something
that vlogger can write a good story behind might really spark the interest of promoters to set him up against Inoue.

An important win to make or create a noise for your name and push the intensity to bring himself closer to Inoue's next challenger.

Im hoping to witness that. The last boxer he beat was Ryo Akaho. Although it was initially controversial and ruled as a no contest, since Ryo Akaho admitted he lost the fight, the win was awarded to Casimero via a 2nd-round knockout as we can see it in Ryo Akaho's record.

[Yamifoud]

Though his opponent is no longer in his prime, Casimero still needs a win with a big hype under his name. Winning it with an early KO
might bring the attention to the crowd.

Especially that he's fighting against a Japanese fighter where pride is really important, winning it with a KO or taking his opponent down with something
that vlogger can write a good story behind might really spark the interest of promoters to set him up against Inoue.

An important win to make or create a noise for your name and push the intensity to bring himself closer to Inoue's next challenger.

Im hoping to witness that. The last boxer he beat was Ryo Akaho. Although it was initially controversial and ruled as a no contest, since Ryo Akaho admitted he lost the fight, the win was awarded to Casimero via a 2nd-round knockout as we can see it in Ryo Akaho's record.

If Oguni doesn't put up a strong performance, it's highly likely we'll witness a knockout here. I don't even understand why Oguni was chosen as Casimero's opponent when there are other boxers with a much better record. Some might see it as a tune-up fight; who knows, Casimero could potentially face Nery or Inoue next.