Still not a safe practice even if it works

[uneng]

If they don't allow VPN usage on their terms, just don't use it. It's simple like that. The problem is that people don't care about what they can do and what they can't do, acting like they wish and crying loud after, once they have funds freezed by the platform for breaking the rules. Then the platform is accused of scamming gamblers when they make profit and want to withdraw the money. However, it was primarily gambler's fault to not follow the house's rules, even though it's true sometimes casinos start blocking users only after they start profiting. The key is: stay clean and they won't have justifications to sabotage you.

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[goinmerry]

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

What is your main concern? If you think using a VPN will put your account at risk, even if it's allowed at the said site, then just simply don't use it. Knowing the terms and conditions related to VPN is a must but if you are not really sure what to do then you can totally ignore using VPN, for your own safety.

There are VPN-friendly sites and those sites you mentioned are examples. As long as the usage is detected from a supported country, no problem at all.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

What specifically do you mean about being "safe"?

Safe from security-related issues or safe from accounts not being banned?

Again, how accounts will be subject to a ban if they just used a VPN where in the first place, it was allowed by the gambling site? Also as I mentioned, as long as it's not used for anything crappy reason, users are freely to used VPN. Skip totally on using if users don't know about the terms.

[ralle14]

What do you think?

It's not the safest way to gamble, but it pays off if the casino allows you to play on their casino for a long time because, like you've said, only a few are VPN-friendly. Those gamblers probably understand the risk of using a VPN since they've also read the terms and conditions of other casinos, so they should know what's possibly coming to their account. It's also a win on the side of the casino because it's another way to get new users playing in their casino when the others are very strict with their rules and that makes me think they're unlikely to enforce the VPN rule.

[alegotardo]

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

I don't use VPN at the casinos where I have an account and I play regularly, so I can't tell you in practice if that would be an issue or not.
However, I can give you my opinion on what I think would be right....

The first point is: using VPN is not illegal, I don't know of any country that mentions this practice as a crime or infraction, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Casinos can add this restriction, for whatever reason, but if this is not explicit in the terms of use of the site then I believe that they should never block you or withhold your money just because you are using a VPN. They could associate VPN use with some other illegal practice and they will certainly find proof of this if you are found guilty.

[Yogee]

If they don't allow VPN usage on their terms, just don't use it. It's simple like that. The problem is that people don't care about what they can do and what they can't do, acting like they wish and crying loud after, once they have funds freezed by the platform for breaking the rules. Then the platform is accused of scamming gamblers when they make profit and want to withdraw the money. However, it was primarily gambler's fault to not follow the house's rules, even though it's true sometimes casinos start blocking users only after they start profiting. The key is: stay clean and they won't have justifications to sabotage you.

But it's silent or not specifically mentioned in the terms which is the main argument in the OP.

The representative from one of the casinos mentioned already clarified the matter and it's down to the purpose of using VPN. They allow on cases of protecting privacy and security but not on cases of bypassing the restriction on countries where online gambling is illegal.

[danherbias07]

Stake.com does not accept VPN connections. Wherever source you get that from it's probably just lying to you. You will get yourself banned by doing this.
Most online gambling sites don't accept VPNs. What's the use of country restriction if they will let all the people get in just by using a VPN?
I have seen many cases of this trying to get back their money after using a VPN, you don't want to be in that position because it will be a restless document compilation to send to the gambling site asking for proof that it's really you and they won't stop at just simple identification. So, just avoid using this. If you cannot use their site then find another one, a reputable one.

[OgNasty]

VPNs are a pretty hot button issue at the moment. There have been proposals in the United States to limit their use but as far as I know they’re still perfectly legal to use. This is a case where technology is just out in front of regulation and I’m sure as regulators get younger and more familiar with current technology more clear guidance will be issued.

[LUCKMCFLY]

But those players who are using VPN are simply finding a way to access a gambling platform and not by means of cheating the game. Indeed there are restrictions to some gambling sites regarding this concern but if the house itself allows it  then who are we as players to oppose it without any given cheating incidents?

Exactly.

Those gamblers that can't find a way so they ending up using VPN. It's either their country has banned online gambling or that casino doesn't allow residents on that specific country to gamble.

But the decision will depend on the casino and I think most of those that are using VPN that are from restricted countries are likely to have the problems.

While there are gamblers that just wanna use VPN to hide their internet protocol.

Only a few would really be having that reasoning that just because they do love on hiding up their IP location on why they do make use of VPN compared to those people who do have restricted access due to country ban.
There's no sense that people would be making use of VPN if they arent really that restricted considering that most IP providers do give out that dynamic and not static ip address which it could really changed out on the time that you would really be able to reset out the router on which it would really be just that normal that they wont really be bothering themselves in regarding to this matter. Whenever you do see that there's on their terms and conditions in regarding about country restriction then why would really be forcing up yourself to play if there are lots of options out there on which you could really be able to play on? Why would really be trying out
to break those terms and conditions of a certain site and pushing for you to play even if its against their house rules? This is why dont get shocked if you have been caught and suddenly blocked and those funds been locked up. People wont really bother about the risks involved as long  they could really be able to play.Well, its their money to make use of and have the full rights on what they should gonna do though.

It is that people in the world have to accept that things when trying to access a casino, exchange or something like that, if you cannot because your country is prohibited, it should not be a problem to use the VPN, because the VPN is the only way these players have to be able to do their job, and play and do other things, in fact the regulations are for the isoes, they should not be for the casinos, in fact the people who are from prohibited countries are normal people who They like to play, they like good games and they have the money to play, so that should be enough, the only thing that is a big advantage is that decentralized casinos can play from anywhere in the world, and they can do all their things naturally without so much problem, now with the licenses, with the authorities, that if the casino is in X country, they have to comply with the rules imposed by them that do not have any kind of understanding, I think something, the Whoever plays in a casino is because he plays with his own money, he does not do it because the casino gives him things, that is something that must be seen and has to be assimilated, therefore when we do everything related to casinos that do They allow the use of the VPN and congratulations, as I said before, even though they are very good, with an incredible reputation, they always accept players who have VPN.

The world and people have become twisted because they do not accept things that are emergencies, or the only way that some people have to play, which is to accept and accept the use of the VPN, but fortunately like the industry Of the cities are very small as competition increases, and those that do allow Vpn will obviously like them more than those that are completely closed, so who loses in the end? The people who are in the prohibited areas ? No , the ones who lose are the casinos that follow those nonsensical regulations to the letter, for that and many more reasons is that casinos sometimes go bankrupt.

[ethereumhunter]

If they don't allow VPN usage on their terms, just don't use it. It's simple like that. The problem is that people don't care about what they can do and what they can't do, acting like they wish and crying loud after, once they have funds freezed by the platform for breaking the rules. Then the platform is accused of scamming gamblers when they make profit and want to withdraw the money. However, it was primarily gambler's fault to not follow the house's rules, even though it's true sometimes casinos start blocking users only after they start profiting. The key is: stay clean and they won't have justifications to sabotage you.

But it's silent or not specifically mentioned in the terms which is the main argument in the OP.

The representative from one of the casinos mentioned already clarified the matter and it's down to the purpose of using VPN. They allow on cases of protecting privacy and security but not on cases of bypassing the restriction on countries where online gambling is illegal.

Because the problem of violating restrictions in countries that prohibit online gambling is clear, so users still can't complain about anything because that's also written in the regulations in casinos. If they could understand that they shouldn't, they would not have such a problem and would still be able to gamble elsewhere. But what often happens is that users still visit the casino because they have found the comfort of playing gambling at the casino so they use a VPN to continue to gamble at the casino. This triggers such problems so that even the customers accuse the casino of being irresponsible or even a scam casino because the customers have had problems like that even though they were the ones who started it until they got the problem. It is very important to follow the rules in the casino to avoid problems that may make us uncomfortable playing gambling at the casino.

And the only thing we can do is look for other casinos that can allow VPN use so we won't have any problems. Some users find it convenient to use a VPN to hide their IP while gaming and avoid surveillance by their internet provider. But it can get them into trouble if they don't want to realize it.

[retreat]

It's best if you read the TOS on the casino platform in question to find out their rules regarding the use of a VPN, because some allow it but some don't. But as far as I know, the casino platform you mentioned does not recommend using a VPN on their platform because it can cause errors or any other reason. It's best if it's not too important you can avoid using a VPN, but if circumstances force it, for example to bypass a ban in a country, you can use it, but you have to take the risk because it can get your account banned due to suspicious activity.

[noorman0]

I would only be wary of VPN concessions not being explicitly written on the user terms page although support may write that elsewhere. When problem solving has to be handled by handing over identities, it becomes a new problem if it's basically a country on the list of restrictions. For shady casinos, this might be an opportunity to cancel out a big win.

[summonerrk]

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What do you think?

I read the TOS and didn't see anything there about using VPN. Nevertheless, I am not against working with casinos via VPN. The fact is that this does not carry risks, because the VPN stream is also encrypted, and stealing your data from it is not as easy as it seems. I use several personal VPNs, because in my country there is very strict censorship in relation to casinos, even for access to Bitcointalk you need a VPN, not to mention Roobet, Stake and other gambling sites. It is annoying that VPN often stop working and they need to be changed. But for this I use WireGuard.

If there is nothing about using a VPN, you can still use a VPN. But you have to be careful with your country's regulations because I noticed very strict censorship regarding casinos. Don't get yourself in trouble with your government for using a VPN to access casinos or other sites.

It's really annoying if there are restrictions from our country in accessing anything on the internet and so far, VPNs have really helped people to be able to access these sites. For this reason, we must be careful when using a VPN because the government may still be watching its people. Maybe they haven't taken any action for the people and are still waiting and looking at the situation in your country.

Using a VPN and due to the fact that the government prohibits certain services is an additional headache for the average user, including me in a similar situation. You have to constantly look for working VPN, and if one of them works today, it does not mean that it will work tomorrow. You are right, there is a possibility that the government will start asking you questions and fine you. Most of all, I don't like the following application: hackers through an unnamed vpn (if it uses the standard point—to-point PPTP tunneling protocol) can hack your channel and receive data. At the same time, they can wait for decent money to be on your gaming account, and only after that they will be hacked. I had this but with a Jaxx wallet.

[Synchronice]

^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
I currently making an account on Stake.com and I read the TOS which is you are right about, there is no state there regarding VPN but I think if you are in the US you can use VPN based on many articles that I have read.
I asked the Stake.com team regarding this and this is what I have got, they strongly discourage using VPNs.

Reading TOS is much better before using the casino.

How can VPN lead to errors in your gameplay and overall, how can it affect your experience? I think she just wants people to avoid VPN and that's why she says what she says. Overall, if you use a VPN with dedicated IP, I think casinos won't be able to know whether you use a VPN or not but if they ask you for KYC documents, then you really shouldn't be from banned countries in order to avoid problems and account freeze. But I also must say that dedicated IP from VPN doesn't really make you anonymous because that IP is tracked back to you. By doing that, you simply hide from your ISP that you are gambling but your VPN provider really knows what you actually do, it's 50/50 whether they log you or not but what increases your anonymity when you use VPN is the use of shared IPs but if you use shared IPs on casino, there is a very high chance that you use the blacklisted one and your account will get banned.
So, anyways, be smart whatever you decide to do.

[ethereumhunter]

Using a VPN and due to the fact that the government prohibits certain services is an additional headache for the average user, including me in a similar situation. You have to constantly look for working VPN, and if one of them works today, it does not mean that it will work tomorrow. You are right, there is a possibility that the government will start asking you questions and fine you. Most of all, I don't like the following application: hackers through an unnamed vpn (if it uses the standard point—to-point PPTP tunneling protocol) can hack your channel and receive data. At the same time, they can wait for decent money to be on your gaming account, and only after that they will be hacked. I had this but with a Jaxx wallet.

I also experienced this before but after I saw that there was a provider's card that could help me get past the ban, I finally used the service from that provider. I didn't break it, did I?

But if you want to use a VPN, you should use a paid VPN so that your privacy is better maintained and you won't be fighting over connections with other people. Moreover, the price of paid VPNs is now not too expensive anymore because there is competition among these VPN companies so they are competing to provide satisfying services at affordable prices.

[Outhue]

If they don't allow VPN usage on their terms, just don't use it. It's simple like that. The problem is that people don't care about what they can do and what they can't do, acting like they wish and crying loud after, once they have funds freezed by the platform for breaking the rules. Then the platform is accused of scamming gamblers when they make profit and want to withdraw the money. However, it was primarily gambler's fault to not follow the house's rules, even though it's true sometimes casinos start blocking users only after they start profiting. The key is: stay clean and they won't have justifications to sabotage you.

Apart from the fact that people don't care, many people still can't sacrifice some minutes to read through casinos terms and conditions, They get tired of reading when they open ToS because it's full of words, and yet they plan to use VPN on their own, I don't know how they come up with the idea when the online casino is not saying anything about using VPN or Not, I will like to ask a casino customer care services about this question and see how they will respond to it, just for fun sake.

Rules and regulation is very important in every aspect, either online or offline, keeping to the rules and regulations will safe gamblers from someone taking advantage of them, it's just like the cop at stop and search routine, if you don't break any rules and the cop still want to deal with you, maybe because of hates or other reasons they will start finding every possible way to get you nailed, the only way to stay ahead of them is you not breaking a single rule.

[Strongkored]

What do you think?

Stake Casino has quite a list of mirror sites and so far it has worked very well for me, so I don't need to use a VPN to access Stake casino, whereas for fortunejack yes I have to use a VPN to enter my account, and also several other casinos where I play.
Casinos are accustomed to using this tag line because they know that most players prefer to hide their real IP not to cheat but more to privacy.
As long as you are not from the list of countries that are prohibited from playing at the casino then everything will be fine, while KYC in my opinion is another thing and has nothing to do with using a VPN, the casino will indeed ask for KYC even if the player doesn't use a VPN to follow the rules of the casino license is registered.
If a player is worried that using a VPN will endanger their account, then ask more specifically about the problems they will face if they use a VPN directly from the casino's support agent.

[shogun47]

What do you think?

Stake Casino has quite a list of mirror sites and so far it has worked very well for me, so I don't need to use a VPN to access Stake casino, whereas for fortunejack yes I have to use a VPN to enter my account, and also several other casinos where I play.
Casinos are accustomed to using this tag line because they know that most players prefer to hide their real IP not to cheat but more to privacy.
As long as you are not from the list of countries that are prohibited from playing at the casino then everything will be fine, while KYC in my opinion is another thing and has nothing to do with using a VPN, the casino will indeed ask for KYC even if the player doesn't use a VPN to follow the rules of the casino license is registered.
If a player is worried that using a VPN will endanger their account, then ask more specifically about the problems they will face if they use a VPN directly from the casino's support agent.

A few messages up we have seen this user asking whether it is an issue to use VPN.

^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
I currently making an account on Stake.com and I read the TOS which is you are right about, there is no state there regarding VPN but I think if you are in the US you can use VPN based on many articles that I have read.
I asked the Stake.com team regarding this and this is what I have got, they strongly discourage using VPNs.

Reading TOS is much better before using the casino.

Which as you said is the right thing to do when there is uncertainty about using it. But honestly what value does this answer from the support agent provide? The answer is almost mystic, it is a riddle that nobody can solve.

When the support agent already comes up with something like "VPN usage can cause technical problems with gameplay and other things running on our site" or so, they are practically telling you that whenever they want, they can play a card against you that you can't prove to be wrong. What if you win big and they say

"we had a glitch in our technology and sadly, we found out that you have been using a VPN, which causes technical problems on our site. We had to void your winnings."

What then? They could even claim that they said so publicly. Everyone would then attack the person complaining about denied payouts.

"See, they told you so, you are to blame!"

But seriously, why would a VPN interfere with their on-site technology that it could cause real technical difficulties? I haven't seen nor have I heard that before.

[len01]

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But if you want to use a VPN, you should use a paid VPN so that your privacy is better maintained and you won't be fighting over connections with other people. Moreover, the price of paid VPNs is now not too expensive anymore because there is competition among these VPN companies so they are competing to provide satisfying services at affordable prices.

but still somehow it is not safe. I mean using a VPN will be a problem in the long term, for example, maybe currently it is safe to access using a VPN but in the future when we get a big win and want to withdraw it, the casino will definitely ask for time to verify your winnings and when investigated you use VPN and be big problem refusing to withdraw your big winnings.
even though the price of a premium VPN is now relatively cheap, I still avoid using a VPN for gambling in the long term.

[KTChampions]

You say that like it's a bad thing to break the law 
You are too subjective in this matter. If you live in a civilized country that respects human rights, then this does not mean that everyone lives in such countries. Probably in most countries of the world people suffer from the oppression of groups that have seized power, so breaking the law is not something bad, but just a way to exercise their rights.

Law is given by people with authority and in this industry  those are gambling site owners or providers. If it is law in general then we would mostly be guilty given that gambling as an activity is prohibited to many countries so what makes us better than others? Also, those who are using Vpn are the ones at risk of being taken advantage of simply because of irregularities with network and overall accessibility to the site.

Maybe our own opinion? If we want to fully trust the states, then why do we need decentralization and bitcoin? I myself determine what is normal for me, and if there is some kind of moronic law, then for me it does not represent something sacred - its violation is only the price for access to what I need. If I am willing to pay this price, then I take the risk, if not, then no.

[Josefjix]

Stake.com does not accept VPN connections. Wherever source you get that from it's probably just lying to you. You will get yourself banned by doing this.
Most online gambling sites don't accept VPNs. What's the use of country restriction if they will let all the people get in just by using a VPN?
I have seen many cases of this trying to get back their money after using a VPN, you don't want to be in that position because it will be a restless document compilation to send to the gambling site asking for proof that it's really you and they won't stop at just simple identification. So, just avoid using this. If you cannot use their site then find another one, a reputable one.

It's unfavorable at our end to use VPN, because it have 90% chances that it would definitely lead to the bans and restrictions on our online gambling accounts. What's the essence of using a Virtual Private Network when one can easily use the default data network connection to complete an online tasks. It's not advisable to make use of VPNs for usage of online gambling sites. It's strictly against the terms and conditions of these gambling sites, we just have to make good use of our time to have knowledge of the positive and negatives effects of VPNs before jumping into using them.