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July 18, 2024, 03:09:49 AM
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Manchester United is quite old and big team compared to other European League teams, so the European League spotlight will definitely be on Manchester United. But only considering the statistics will not mean that Manchester United must perform well but Manchester United can do well in the Europa League.
Of course Manchester United is a big team and has a long history. United plays in the UCL more often than the UEL, therefore Manchester United will be one of the teams that will be highlighted in the UEL this season. But we can also see that United's performance is not good enough in the League. They can play at UEL because they won the FA cup but they are ranked eighth in the final standings. I doubt United will do well in the UEL. But Ten Hag will make several player purchases and that means we cannot look at their performance this season as a reference. They succeeded in recruiting Zirkzee who will strengthen the attack line. So hopefully United can perform well in the UEL.
Although Manchester City has performed very well recently, if you still consider the difference between Manchester United and Manchester City in terms of supporters, you will now see that Manchester United has more fans than Manchester City.  I'm a Real Madrid fan and if there's one club I love in the Premier League it's Manchester United. We know Manchester United as an old club and we are aware that this club has done well in the past although they have not been performing well recently. Manchester United have underperformed in the Premier League tournament for two seasons in a row, particularly in the last season, which saw them qualify for the Europa League next season without qualifying for the Champions League. Since they have not done well in the Champions League for a few seasons, they must take the Europa League tournament seriously and plan how to win the league tournament title.

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July 18, 2024, 03:17:28 AM
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-snip- Although Manchester United spent a lot of money, they failed to select the right players for their squad.
Spending a lot of money will not make a team a strong team. A similar thing also happened to Chelsea in the previous few seasons where they made many mistakes in buying players. Chelsea has spent around 319 million pounds sterling to spend on players in the summer of 2023. And as a result, Chelsea only managed to finish in sixth place in the standings at the end of last season. They also failed to reach the UEL after United managed to win the FA Cup. I can say that Chelsea suffered a big loss because the results did not match expectations. So far only Cole Palmer has contributed significantly to the team and is Chelsea's best purchase so far.

-snip- Basically, big teams like Barcelona, ​​Liverpool or Arsenal do not take Europa League seriously. This is why we don't see these big teams performing well in the Europa League.
I think the top teams also play seriously in UEL. The European League is the second prestigious league after the UCL so there is no reason for them to make the UEL just an amateur league. But there are several teams who are more concerned with chasing the domestic league champions and that makes them not prioritize UEL.

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July 18, 2024, 06:32:19 AM
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Looking at this post now I laugh so hard, you must’ve said it with all confidence and now the team which no one expected won it. Football is absolutely unpredictable that’s the Fun of it lol.
Sorry Liverpool fan
It's such a normal thing in football that it's not only fun to watch, but it's also fun to see how many people are predicting. Because when you see everyone who loves a team and says that the team will win, I think that is the hope of every fan and clearly it won't be a problem whatsoever even if in the end they lose and don't become champions. Next season looks like it will be even more exciting because there are several big teams that have to be here apart from several other teams that have to come here via the UCL route.
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July 18, 2024, 07:09:11 AM
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The last time that Manchester United won the Europa League competition they weren't playing the way they are playing now and their attacking force was far better than what we are seeing now likewise the defensive line. The team may have all the experience in the competition but it takes a team with good performance and consistency in winning matches to advance to the finals of a competition but I don't see that ability in the Manchester United team right now unless they get better.

I can't accept that Manchester United don't have a strong squad. Manchester United have spent a lot of money building their squad. However, if their squad is not strong then it is entirely the failure of the coach and management. Manchester United management spent 96 million to add Antony to the squad. Manchester United paid 75 million for Hojlund. Then the performance of the attacking players of this team is poor. Although Manchester United spent a lot of money, they failed to select the right players for their squad.

Man United has indeed spent a lot of money on their players but, the reason they failed was not entirely because they chose the wrong players. You also have to look at the fact that they also faced a quite serious injury crisis last season and because of this, Ten Hag doesn't have many options to play with their best squad in every match.

Whoever the coach is will definitely have a headache if they are faced with an injury crisis throughout the season.
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July 18, 2024, 07:58:33 AM
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Ten Hag have been given one last chance by Manchester United management. He was in charge of Manchester United for two seasons. But we don't see any improvement in Manchester United. Rather, we have seen the deterioration of Manchester United's performance. Although Manchester United managed to qualify for the Champions League in the previous season, this season Manchester United finished eighth in the table. Manchester United were weak both in attack and defence. However, Manchester United management did not fire their club Ten Hag.

Manchester United are again relying on the Ten Hag. And Ten Hag will provide full support to strengthen United's squad. If Ten Hag still fails then Ten Hag will be fully responsible. And even then I don't think Manchester United management will give Ten Hag another chance.

Lol, Erik ten Hag saw his contract extended by two years if I'm not mistaking, not on last chance by Manchester United. They're cool with him for the future.
How can you say Manchester United hasn't seen improvement? Since the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson, who has taken Manchester United to three finals in two years? Who has won back to back trophies for Manchester United? Y'all want big things but fail to understand that, celebrating the little things leads to the bigger things. So much improvements have been seen since Erik Ten Hag took over.

Y'all talk like Manchester United wasn't in a bad state before he took over, even with Ralf Rangnick, Ole Gunner Solskjaer, , Manchester United suffered heavily. Even Ralf Rangnick said Manchester United should wipe the sqaud, leaving two to three players alone, called out tue management which was the same reason they part ways with him.

Erik Ten Hag had a bad season, he has taken responsibility and will do better this season as much as he has enough squad depth. Breaks my heart to see that football fans these days are not patient enough, yet again, Rome wasn't built in a day. So much negativity, from comment, what if everything goes fine with/for Erik Ten Hag?

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July 18, 2024, 08:34:54 AM
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-snip- Although Manchester United spent a lot of money, they failed to select the right players for their squad.
Spending a lot of money will not make a team a strong team. A similar thing also happened to Chelsea in the previous few seasons where they made many mistakes in buying players. Chelsea has spent around 319 million pounds sterling to spend on players in the summer of 2023. And as a result, Chelsea only managed to finish in sixth place in the standings at the end of last season. They also failed to reach the UEL after United managed to win the FA Cup. I can say that Chelsea suffered a big loss because the results did not match expectations. So far only Cole Palmer has contributed significantly to the team and is Chelsea's best purchase so far.

A coach needs to know what his squad needs before buying players. Weaknesses of the team should be identified. But Ten Hag has completely failed to identify his squad's weaknesses. And that's why he couldn't stabilize the Manchester United team even in 2 years. Manchester United management provided large funds to Ten Hag for player purchases. Ten Hag invests money in young players. But Manchester United needed an experienced striker. Had the Ten Hag added an experienced striker to his squad, perhaps we would have seen a more organised gameplay from Manchester United last season.
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July 18, 2024, 10:26:08 AM
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When bring the previous historical about the Manchester united is a big team compared to their currently performance, how they been perform so far in all last but some say that Manchester united performance is good and exist better, but Manchester united performance is very poorly in the leagues both the champion league and the premier league, their performance is not enough that they count them among of the team that can able to do well in the league next season.
We cannot deny that Man Uniet's history in football cannot be ignored until now and that is why there are still many fans who are loyal to the club because of its extraordinary achievements in the past.

Man United has won 20 league titles.
It's in 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013 .
Yes, unfortunately after 2013, achievements really dropped and are not progressing well even now.

3x UEFA Champions League (UCL)
This happened in 1968, 1999 and 2008. Will Man United be able to make this history again> Obviously not this year, because they only got to the UEFA Europa League.

And there are still many other trophies that make Man United a Premier League giant.

However, that is history, because after that, even up to now, nothing has changed and Man United is getting worse.

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Sir Alex Ferguson became the coach who managed to lead Manchester United to victory during his coaching period, there is no other team in England that can currently match Manchester United's record of winning the trophy, but after Ferguson withdrew, Manchester United slowly began to decline and they continued to change coaches but no one was able to lift Manchester United performance for the better, Actually the club history can be a guideline for the coach to make Manchester United rise from the slump but on the side the club history can also be a burden for the current coach  in restore glory, currently Ten Hag is the coach of Manchester United and maybe we will not see him can make Manchester return in a positive direction because his ego , Ten Hag is actually a good coach but maybe he is still not able to restore the glory of Manchester United today.
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July 18, 2024, 10:51:19 AM
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-snip- Although Manchester United spent a lot of money, they failed to select the right players for their squad.
Spending a lot of money will not make a team a strong team. A similar thing also happened to Chelsea in the previous few seasons where they made many mistakes in buying players. Chelsea has spent around 319 million pounds sterling to spend on players in the summer of 2023. And as a result, Chelsea only managed to finish in sixth place in the standings at the end of last season. They also failed to reach the UEL after United managed to win the FA Cup. I can say that Chelsea suffered a big loss because the results did not match expectations. So far only Cole Palmer has contributed significantly to the team and is Chelsea's best purchase so far.

A coach needs to know what his squad needs before buying players. Weaknesses of the team should be identified. But Ten Hag has completely failed to identify his squad's weaknesses. And that's why he couldn't stabilize the Manchester United team even in 2 years. Manchester United management provided large funds to Ten Hag for player purchases. Ten Hag invests money in young players. But Manchester United needed an experienced striker. Had the Ten Hag added an experienced striker to his squad, perhaps we would have seen a more organised gameplay from Manchester United last season.

However, not all teams that spend a lot of money to buy players then fail to get good results, such as the failures experienced by Chelsea and Manchester United. Because after all, there are still many other teams that have spent a lot of money and the results have also been successful, perhaps, for example, Liverpool and Manchester City. Therefore,  there are two possibilities for a team to succeed or fail after spending a lot of money to buy a lot of new players and also recruiting a new coach.

But indeed, basically the team will be successful because it has a coach and has the right management. Because after all, a great coach is certainly able to make players who were previously mediocre into successful players with good quality and performance. Although indeed, having quality players will make it easier for the coach to work to make the team perform well. So yes, in this case ofcourse all lines play an important role in actually getting success and trophies.
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July 18, 2024, 01:19:13 PM
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What a sad one is for Macnhester United again has to play this tournament, i can feel all your fans being very pissed and playing this competition full of sorrow, because you know in the deep of you hearth the thing that Macnhester United is a team for Champions League and not this second tier tournament.

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July 18, 2024, 01:34:16 PM
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When bring the previous historical about the Manchester united is a big team compared to their currently performance, how they been perform so far in all last but some say that Manchester united performance is good and exist better, but Manchester united performance is very poorly in the leagues both the champion league and the premier league, their performance is not enough that they count them among of the team that can able to do well in the league next season.
There are many things that Manchester United need to change next season because they themselves must be aware that last season they did not appear so impressive even though the FA Cup saved them from being able to take them to the Europa League next season. So Manchester United themselves do not have to be satisfied with what they got last season because in general there are still many things they need to improve in order to start next season very well. Especially in terms of recruiting players and also in implementing more extraordinary tactics from the start of the season.

Manchester United should not even expect the next season to come easy for them than what they faced in the last season. Their last minutes saviour of winning the FA Cup saved them to qualify in an Europeans competition this season, Chelsea would have been the one playing in the Europa League and not them. They have another chance to play in the Europa League and also improve their game in the premier league as well in order to finish in at least top four positions on the league table. That will give them a qualification to the champions league next season. If they can still finish in  first position in the Europa League, that will give them an automatic ticket to the Champions League by next season.

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July 18, 2024, 01:34:25 PM
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The last time that Manchester United won the Europa League competition they weren't playing the way they are playing now and their attacking force was far better than what we are seeing now likewise the defensive line. The team may have all the experience in the competition but it takes a team with good performance and consistency in winning matches to advance to the finals of a competition but I don't see that ability in the Manchester United team right now unless they get better.

I can't accept that Manchester United don't have a strong squad. Manchester United have spent a lot of money building their squad. However, if their squad is not strong then it is entirely the failure of the coach and management. Manchester United management spent 96 million to add Antony to the squad. Manchester United paid 75 million for Hojlund. Then the performance of the attacking players of this team is poor. Although Manchester United spent a lot of money, they failed to select the right players for their squad.

Man United has indeed spent a lot of money on their players but, the reason they failed was not entirely because they chose the wrong players. You also have to look at the fact that they also faced a quite serious injury crisis last season and because of this, Ten Hag doesn't have many options to play with their best squad in every match.
Spending money on players and not getting a positive result simply means the money wasn't spent on the right players this is because the team has not gotten better with the current players in the team. Last season United had some injury issues no doubt but the players were not injured from the beginning of the season to the end. Long story short, Ten hag's  pattern is not working in the team most times last season his formation and substitutions made United to draw some games that they should have won and his inability to bond with his players is another reason why I wanted him to be replaced by the end of last season.

Next season is almost at the corner and the team has no injury crisis right now what will be the next excuse of the coach of he doesn't do better next season? who knows the next player he's going to send back to the teamB next season since Sancho has been called back to the team, I think the coach needs to accept the mistakes he has made so far and work on improving the strength of the team instead of making stories here and there.

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July 18, 2024, 02:11:36 PM
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What a sad one is for Macnhester United again has to play this tournament, i can feel all your fans being very pissed and playing this competition full of sorrow, because you know in the deep of you hearth the thing that Macnhester United is a team for Champions League and not this second tier tournament.
This your post is indeed ironical. We all know that Manchester United is a Champions League club but not in the recent time. Since ever Sir Alex Ferguson left Manchester United, they have never met a remarkable Mark in the Champions League competition. So, it is correct to say that Manchester United has seized to be that Champions League club used to know.

In fact it is a thing of Joy to Manchester United fans and players including the management that Manchester United finally found their way to play in the Europa League. Rightfully it was Chelsea that deserved it, if it was calculated based on position in the Premier League table. So, it is expected that Manchester United do their best this time around both in the European League competition and local League in order not to fall below the top 4 this coming season.

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July 18, 2024, 03:01:29 PM
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Next Thursday, the European qualification starts. The teams I will follow are Ajax and Braga. I expect both teams to easily eliminate their opponents here and advance to the next round without any problems. Molde, on the other hand, has the power to eliminate Silkeborg. We may not see exactly equal matches in this qualifying round, but we can say that it is a round where matches are more likely to be with plenty of goals.
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July 18, 2024, 03:45:12 PM
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Next Thursday, the European qualification starts. The teams I will follow are Ajax and Braga. I expect both teams to easily eliminate their opponents here and advance to the next round without any problems. Molde, on the other hand, has the power to eliminate Silkeborg. We may not see exactly equal matches in this qualifying round, but we can say that it is a round where matches are more likely to be with plenty of goals.
This will be a match that determines which teams will be in the Europa League next season. To be honest, I don't really follow how the teams in the Europa League qualifiers play, especially since this is the start of the season and a lot has changed for them in terms of play. This qualifying match will also be a match that we can play at the start of the season and see how they will perform next season, or in other words, this will be an illustration of their performance.
Many big teams will eventually be in the European League, that's what makes the end of the European League more interesting to watch. And what's even more interesting is when a team that is considered a big team and is considered a favorite is actually unable to do much in the Europa League in the knockout stages. Whether they lost motivation or something else I don't know, but I see they are no more enthusiastic than when they were in the Champions League.

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July 18, 2024, 04:02:21 PM
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When bring the previous historical about the Manchester united is a big team compared to their currently performance, how they been perform so far in all last but some say that Manchester united performance is good and exist better, but Manchester united performance is very poorly in the leagues both the champion league and the premier league, their performance is not enough that they count them among of the team that can able to do well in the league next season.
There are many things that Manchester United need to change next season because they themselves must be aware that last season they did not appear so impressive even though the FA Cup saved them from being able to take them to the Europa League next season. So Manchester United themselves do not have to be satisfied with what they got last season because in general there are still many things they need to improve in order to start next season very well. Especially in terms of recruiting players and also in implementing more extraordinary tactics from the start of the season.

Manchester United should not even expect the next season to come easy for them than what they faced in the last season. Their last minutes saviour of winning the FA Cup saved them to qualify in an Europeans competition this season, Chelsea would have been the one playing in the Europa League and not them. They have another chance to play in the Europa League and also improve their game in the premier league as well in order to finish in at least top four positions on the league table. That will give them a qualification to the champions league next season. If they can still finish in  first position in the Europa League, that will give them an automatic ticket to the Champions League by next season.
I doubt that Manchester United will be able to win Europa league because there are a lot of strong clubs in the league. What Ten Hag needs to focus on his a qualification ticket to UCL which he can achieve that in EPL if he finishes as top four in the league next season. For Ten Hag to achieve this, he needs to start winning all his early matches before the season gets to her second phase.

Next season will be full of surprises in Europa because I am expecting a club that no one thought of to come from behind and win the league just like what Atalanta did this past season. It is a pity that Chelsea after securing the 6th position was automatically kicked out from Europa due to the Manchester united victory in FA Cup finals.

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July 18, 2024, 04:09:31 PM
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When bring the previous historical about the Manchester united is a big team compared to their currently performance, how they been perform so far in all last but some say that Manchester united performance is good and exist better, but Manchester united performance is very poorly in the leagues both the champion league and the premier league, their performance is not enough that they count them among of the team that can able to do well in the league next season.
There are many things that Manchester United need to change next season because they themselves must be aware that last season they did not appear so impressive even though the FA Cup saved them from being able to take them to the Europa League next season. So Manchester United themselves do not have to be satisfied with what they got last season because in general there are still many things they need to improve in order to start next season very well. Especially in terms of recruiting players and also in implementing more extraordinary tactics from the start of the season.
Yeah, that FA Cup was a nice little cherry on top, but last season was a disaster for United. It's embarrassing a club of this caliber was even fighting for a Europa League spot. That's amateur hour stuff. Sure, Ten Hag's got a shiny new trophy to distract the Glazers for a minute, but let's be real, we're not celebrating Europa League appearances here. This is Manchester United, for Christ's sake. The Champions League is the bare minimum

Now, they're throwing money at the transfer market like it's gonna fix everything, but I'm not convinced. Until Ten Hag proves he can actually outsmart the top managers in Europe, this is just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. And don't even get me started on the Glazers...

 
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July 18, 2024, 04:40:43 PM
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Maybe UCL was too much for ETH to handle for the time being, with this new system in place, that gives a little bit of chance to have a few not so great games, I assume that we may actually end up with United having a chance. Plus, as far as I know teams from the top won't come to Europa right? If that is the case as I remember than United could be one of the best teams here as well, if not the best. They spent 40+ million on a single player just recently, how many teams in Europa could do that? ETH will have a bigger chance this season, that is how he always does. He is known for doing at least one competition right, and he may pick Europa this season.

Be like sixth in the league, lose at FA cup early, and then win the Europa cup to make people think that he is a good manager. That doesn't really make him a good manager, he should be getting the team to top four at premier league consistently, with this much money spent on the players he wants, they should be doing better, but they are not, so just winning a few cups doesn't make him better. But I also think that if he does end up winning Europa, then he will be considered for a lot longer as well, because that's a cup that will make fans happy.

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July 18, 2024, 05:39:56 PM
Last edit: July 22, 2024, 01:19:01 PM by Weawant
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I have noticed that Manchester United happens to have been the most discussed team in the Europa for the New season, maybe it's because they appear as one of the mist prominent in the Europa and then they have had better competitions they have participated in but then I want to take a little diversion to talking about a few others.

Ajax Will be amongst the first teams that will be playing in the qualifiers that will be kicking off next week, last season they weren't in a very stable condition and to think of the fact that they weren't really actively making moves in the transfer market builds some concerns for me because I'm wondering if they are going to still work with sane players they have and be able to really achieve a lot.

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July 19, 2024, 05:08:28 AM
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What a sad one is for Macnhester United again has to play this tournament, i can feel all your fans being very pissed and playing this competition full of sorrow, because you know in the deep of you hearth the thing that Macnhester United is a team for Champions League and not this second tier tournament.
You only think about Manchester United's past because a team as big as Manchester United is more often in the UCL than in the UEL. But all that is just about the past and the fact is that since Manchester United has fallen, I don't think it would be wrong for a team like Manchester United to return to play in the UEL for a trophy and this could also lead them back to the UCL if next season they can play well enough in this competition. Moreover, competing in the domestic league next season will still be quite difficult for Manchester United, so there are other routes that Manchester United can still use to get to the UCL if the team does not finish in the top four in its domestic competition.
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July 19, 2024, 05:58:14 AM
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Now, they're throwing money at the transfer market like it's gonna fix everything, but I'm not convinced. Until Ten Hag proves he can actually outsmart the top managers in Europe, this is just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. And don't even get me started on the Glazers...
Beating top European managers like who you might mean, look at every great coach who is also in big team with quite strong support behind him, we can never just compare them.
If really want to see it, have to look at the leadership of previous Manchester United coaches because if you compare it with other great coaches who have managed big European teams, we will never be able to find the superiority of Ten Hag.
I not very impressed with Ten Hag performance as Manchester United coach because he has not been able to restore Manchester United strength to what it was when it was at the peak of its glory with great coaches who have proven their success.
But on the other hand, I was quite impressed with his determination and effort in building the team even though he had to spend a lot of money, no one could stop him because Ten Hag was the coach there.
All we can do is see how Manchester United develops in the future in the Premier League as well as how they can complete the Europa League competition which they to get by winning the FA Cup.
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