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September 03, 2023, 02:44:07 AM
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Horse racing is a real life event. Gambling do happen in this event but basically fiat gambling with hard cash and it only happens in that place only. But here it’s all about online gambling and that too with cryptocurrency. For this reason many don’t place bets on virtual horse races, as they don’t form trust on it. They do sports betting on different sports, but horse racing is ignored. Hence now many bookies also don’t include the sports betting anymore.

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September 03, 2023, 03:10:08 AM
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Horse racing is a real life event. Gambling do happen in this event but basically fiat gambling with hard cash and it only happens in that place only. But here it’s all about online gambling and that too with cryptocurrency. For this reason many don’t place bets on virtual horse races, as they don’t form trust on it. They do sports betting on different sports, but horse racing is ignored. Hence now many bookies also don’t include the sports betting anymore.
It's not virtual. You can watch the video live at Betcoin.
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September 03, 2023, 05:53:50 AM
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In my opinion, this has to do with the lack of popularity and even the lack of competition that horse racing has in each country. We have to ask ourselves how many countries in the world do horse racing exist in? Not all countries in the world have horse racing, for example in Africa according to Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_horse_racing_venues

There is only 1 place in Kenya that hosts horse races and I highly doubt that the majority of Kenyan bettors know or are interested in going to watch this type of race so they can have more experience on how to better analyze a horse for them when placing bets. know how to choose better; It is also available in Morocco (it is only available in 4 places in Morocco and I also highly doubt that bettors in Morocco will be interested in going to watch the horse races in Morocco); There is also in Niger (a country that recently suffered a coup d'état and I also very much doubt that many people from that country watch the horse race, probably in that country only a small group of rich people watched it and I very much doubt that the event is constant).

there are in South Africa (only 10 places that hold horse races and knowing Africa and those damn South Africans, I can imagine that only the rich watch horse races); There is in Zimbabwe (only 1 place and I doubt that the poor people go to watch this race and I also highly doubt that it is an event in which they do a lot every year). see that Africa has more than 50 countries, but only less than 10 African countries hold this type of race and even in the few African countries that hold this type of race, they don't do it in many places in those same countries and I highly doubt they hold many events annually

Now when we look at the basic criteria for a person to start placing bets:

1-) the person needs to have good knowledge about the thing they are going to bet on, if it is soccer they need to know how to play soccer and the rules of the game

2-) the person needs to choose something that he likes and that can get a lot of information quickly and easily

3-) the person needs to know the markets for this thing well

example: in my case, my country doesn't have horse racing, I've never seen a horse race live, I don't know about the rules of horse racing and how to choose a good horse, even if I could watch videos about horse racing on the Internet. I wouldn't do well myself betting on horse races, that's why I don't bet on horse races, and I believe that many people on the forum are also in the same situation or think like me.

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September 03, 2023, 06:51:31 AM
Merited by stompix (1)
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Honestly, I don't know anything about horse racing.

About your plan to give rewards for a prediction contest, I don't think it will light a spark either. Most gamblers who will join it will probably in it for the money and they will just take a peek at the horse numbers or names and choose one. But after that, they will be gone again for a month and they will just be back if you are ready to pay again.
It won't help unless there's really something to talk about. Did you try to make a thread about it? If you did, are there replies? 3 or 4 members could start a good conversation and have a chance to grow it.
You will just be spending a lot of money giving out rewards when you can see there are really fewer people here in the forum who are interested in it.
Never had I tried betting on a horse race in my life.

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September 03, 2023, 07:46:36 AM
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I find horse racing betting interesting because I understand that there are people who make money in the long term, as happens with sports betting or poker, although they are a minority. It is essentially different from casino games, where there is an inexorable loss the larger the sample size.

- Do you honestly think running a prediction game (run with my own funds) would attract genuine interest in this and not just shitposting quota?

Based on me running something similar about poker on G&R, I'd say you'll attract some people who have a clue, not many, and depending on the degree of difficulty you pose. The higher the difficulty the fewer the responses.

- Is anyone here actually gambling on horse racing?

I don't, and therefore I wouldn't participate, but I wanted to give you my opinion.

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September 03, 2023, 07:51:30 AM
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I have never been a fan of the ponies, but I really don't understand how the betting works which is probably what makes me not like the sport. If I had a better understanding I might start placing a few low wagers here and there for fun. Ignorance or lack of knowledge is probably what keeps a lot of the forum users away from the ponies.


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September 03, 2023, 07:58:22 AM
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Thanks for opening a discussion thread concerning horse racing, the thing is I find horse racing to be more complicated than other sports, it's less popular and I have to bet on an animal that I have no information about, there is no way to check the animal strength and health, there is no data of such.

Also the litter I've heard about such game is not very good, animals are treated in an ill manner to make them win races by force, they are injected with drugs for adrenaline end results, these things make me see horse racing as too risky.

Moreover, everyone is a fan of a particular sport, horse racing isn't just one for me, in fact, any sport that has to do with animals is not for me, I prefer sports that are carried out by humans themselves.
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September 03, 2023, 08:10:10 AM
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My understanding of horse betting is that you bet on a horse before the racing and if it wins you get the money. The bet can be placed on the winner or on the runner ups. Horse betting has its own charm and luxury. I had an assumption earlier that only affluent people are into horse betting. Later I found out it has its own fan base.

I haven't seen any online sports book providing odds on horse racing. I might be wrong though as there are non cryptocurrency sports book which I haven't checked. I have also read that such racing are cruel on the colt. They generally end up in injured, which leads to their death after few races. I think that might be the reason many of us here are not so keen in horse racing.

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September 03, 2023, 10:12:26 AM
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In my country horse racing is a big thing, but more and more of these race tracks are coming under fire for animal abuse. The main concern with horse racing are the way owners discard horses, after they get to the stage where they cannot compete anymore.

I think all sports where animals are involved are coming into more scrutiny these days, because the "new" generation are not seeing the old ways, the same way we.... old timers are seeing it.

It is a pity, because it is such a wonderful Sport and the treatment that these horses are getting are exceptional... compared to the treatment that horses are getting on farms.  Tongue

Ps.... I bet on some mudlarks last weekend and it boosted my pocket.  Wink

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September 03, 2023, 10:28:11 AM
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But here it seems like there is little interest in this, is that because horse racing is just unpopular or is it because, well,.... the casinos that sponsor most signatures here are not promoting it? So no post quota to make?  Grin My old local gambling forum that covered this is also near death, I'm sitting in the sun 8 hours a day boring myself to death, so here comes feedback next part :

- Do you honestly think running a prediction game (run with my own funds) would attract genuine interest in this and not just shitposting quota?
- Would let's say 1-2 mbtc (per event, about one or two per month) be enough for people here to at least open a few links and take a look at what hoses are running and what their timeform is?
- Is anyone here actually gambling on horse racing?
Horse race is rare in my country, it is solely reserved for the elites. The cost of playing this game is high so people pay less attention to it. And when a sport is not popular people will not place bets on it since they know little or nothing about it. I have watched some of the live games and I find sport interesting but very risky.

There is nothing that is not possible if money is involved. Running a production bet will attract more interest and members will watch games and predict matches. I will personally be interested because no knowledge is wasted. There is no harm in a trial, it could come out great.

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September 03, 2023, 11:33:40 AM
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I see thousands of posts about football, a few hundred about other sports, and the rest are just almost non-existent. I'm a gambler myself but I stopped a while ago betting on soccer, all the Nxx in American sports and I'm just betting now and then on horse racing, from one penny at a time to some larger sums in case of a grade 1 event or festival.
But here it seems like there is little interest in this, is that because horse racing is just unpopular or is it because, well,.... the casinos that sponsor most signatures here are not promoting it? So no post quota to make?  Grin My old local gambling forum that covered this is also near death, I'm sitting in the sun 8 hours a day boring myself to death, so here comes feedback next part :
Personally I grew in an area where Football and Basketball where the two most popular sports. The next comes car racing and tennis. So, no one was talking about horse racing, only if one or two guy would say it in a decade and those guys were admiring horses. Probably, the reason why it's not popular is that some people think, there is a corruption, drug use and cruelty in this game.

- Do you honestly think running a prediction game (run with my own funds) would attract genuine interest in this and not just shitposting quota?
- Would let's say 1-2 mbtc (per event, about one or two per month) be enough for people here to at least open a few links and take a look at what hoses are running and what their timeform is?
- Is anyone here actually gambling on horse racing?
1. No, that won't attract genuine interest and probably will turn into shitposting or your audience will be very narrow, won't worth it.
2. You can try to see, why not? One or two events will be enough to give you an idea about that.

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September 03, 2023, 11:53:38 AM
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Honestly, mate, I know about horse racing as we also have horse racing competitions in our country, but the lack of media coverage is probably the reason why I didn't develop a passion for this sport. Basketball has always been the most popular sport in our country, which is why I tend to focus my gambling on basketball, especially the NBA.

I'm just curious why it's not popular here considering it's part of the most popular sports to bet on.

https://www.pledgesports.org/2020/05/most-popular-sports-to-bet-on/

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There probably aren't many who are horse racing enthusiasts. Even if there were, they'd probably be really minor, it would probably end up being better making a private telegram channel or something similar due to how small the population size is.

I do think it's interesting but it's technically a sport, so I'm more on the side of wanting to know more about it. I got to watch it first with an official Japanese Horse Racing tournament online. Seeing as it was Japanese, I had absolutely no idea what the casters were talking about but the hype was there alright. If I were to join just because of how interested I am, I'd probably just choose a random horse number, and scream go while the race is ongoing which sounds interesting in itself, but I'd like to pass on the YOLO moment. Might become a bad habit. May join once or twice though.

 
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September 03, 2023, 12:17:16 PM
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Honestly, mate, I know about horse racing as we also have horse racing competitions in our country, but the lack of media coverage is probably the reason why I didn't develop a passion for this sport. Basketball has always been the most popular sport in our country, which is why I tend to focus my gambling on basketball, especially the NBA.

I'm just curious why it's not popular here considering it's part of the most popular sports to bet on.

https://www.pledgesports.org/2020/05/most-popular-sports-to-bet-on/

Exactly, this is same my point on why horse racing doesn’t popular worldwide. Also the investment for the horse racetrack is one of concern since only few can afford to host this game since the horse requires huge field to race compared to cockfight colliseum.

Raising and training a horse too is not an easy task which is why there's only few players interested to enter the competition. But with a good media coverage, I think horse racing might be popular again because this is a very exhilarating sports.

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September 03, 2023, 12:36:02 PM
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Yesterday I wanted to close the topic but seems like the latest feedback was still better than I would expect normally as it topic grow larger.

So I guess I will just give it a try for the next week, a new topic for discussion and one in games and rounds I guess where everyone would be able to choose his horses, probably the upcoming Irish Champions Festival, 4 grade 1 races on which I plan to lose d'oh , bet more than 1 mbtc anyhow.  Roll Eyes It's too late for the Prix du Moulin which would have been great too but a week is more than enough.

I see that a lot of users are concerned it's complicated, I don't get it.
If you can play a handicap game in the NBA you obviously can do a placement in racing, let's not even talk about just setting a winner and that's it. Of course, if we go into an exchange and place against and on that's different but I'm not planning on lecturing users on that.

I loved horse racing with a passion.
But I became a compulsive gambler and no longer bet anything at all.
But I am done with it last bet was in July of 1990

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I do gamble a lot (as in times) but I never exceed the planned sums, I usually end up betting smaller sums on weird combinations just for ht fun than going all in to make it big or whatever, and most of the time end up throwing a bet because of the horse name and some recent real-life event .

Thanks for opening a discussion thread concerning horse racing, the thing is I find horse racing to be more complicated than other sports, it's less popular and I have to bet on an animal that I have no information about, there is no way to check the animal strength and health, there is no data of such.

This is one of the misconceptions, you have all the data.
You know how the horse runs on grass or dirt, you know how he runs on 6f or 7 for one mile, you know how he runs on fast or slow goings, and you know his previous form ratings, it's not just blindly picking things.

I don't know why people like to talk about football as being more predictable when Denmark won the EU championship after coming from holidays not even being qualified or Brazil getting SevenUped By Germany.


I'm just curious why it's not popular here considering it's part of the most popular sports to bet on.
https://www.pledgesports.org/2020/05/most-popular-sports-to-bet-on/

Betting on horse racing is estimated to be over €100 billion annually.!!!!
And here we had users telling me betting on horse racing is dying.!  Roll Eyes

I haven't quoted or replied to a lot of you but I'm really positively surprised on the feedback, more info than I hoped for.

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September 03, 2023, 01:24:34 PM
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Is anyone here actually gambling on horse racing?

Never enjoyed betting on any games that is termed cruel. You van search the internet and you find the cruelty of horse racing. Both the jockey and the horse are at great risk of getting injured while racing. There have been incidents reported in the media where these young colt have died due to racing. In such situation how can anyone bet on such a game. It is far better to bet on sports like football and others. It's is nothing but my choice that I avoid gambling in such games.

American Football is vicious with endless injuries.

Horse racing is a sport that kills at least 1 or 2 jockeys a year and quite a few horses.


Soccer or non American  Football have injuries but not a lot of death.

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September 03, 2023, 01:32:43 PM
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I never understood horse racing. It always felt very risky to me although by any chance if you hit the winning horse then you win a lot.

Isn't that what pure gambling is about? I like it when there are so many variables there is sometimes like littery nothing to do and just go with your guts!
May be it is but I need at least some calculated risk there to feel a bit good about the bet I placed. Although the day I am not lucky nothing works. For example yesterday luck was supper bad and I lost a good amount of money [I usually is very patience when I gamble but when I lose patience because of few constitutive lost bets, then I end up losing a good amount because I starts to increase stake]

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September 03, 2023, 01:35:46 PM
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Is anyone here actually gambling on horse racing?

Never enjoyed betting on any games that is termed cruel. You van search the internet and you find the cruelty of horse racing. Both the jockey and the horse are at great risk of getting injured while racing. There have been incidents reported in the media where these young colt have died due to racing. In such situation how can anyone bet on such a game. It is far better to bet on sports like football and others. It's is nothing but my choice that I avoid gambling in such games.

American Football is vicious with endless injuries.

Horse racing is a sport that kills at least 1 or 2 jockeys a year and quite a few horses.


Soccer or non American  Football have injuries but not a lot of death.

Horse racing is really a harmful type of sport because I also believe that the horse rider as well as the horse are both at risk in such type of racing. The horse rider is at a higher risk because any sudden fall could take away his life or break most of his bones and other injuries are indescribable. Sometimes the horses also die when they suddenly fall during the race and that's why it's truly a risky sport as compare to others. I also believe that Football is also a very risky sport because many players can get badly injured during the gameplay. There have been many cases where players legs got broken during the matches and that's why we can call it also a injurious type of sport. I think cricket is safer option for the ones who want to bet and other than cricket the tennis is the best choice for the ones who want to bet on the sports that don't cause any kind of injuries.

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September 03, 2023, 01:39:28 PM
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Honestly, mate, I know about horse racing as we also have horse racing competitions in our country, but the lack of media coverage is probably the reason why I didn't develop a passion for this sport. Basketball has always been the most popular sport in our country, which is why I tend to focus my gambling on basketball, especially the NBA.

I'm just curious why it's not popular here considering it's part of the most popular sports to bet on.

https://www.pledgesports.org/2020/05/most-popular-sports-to-bet-on/

Horse racing is there for long time but doesn't get much popularity since majority of people are been hook up with other sport. Media hype is the main reason why horse racing popularity didn't reach to the mass and they always cover those popular sports.
Although we can agree that basket is popular game but football is more bigger and have wide audiences that's why aside from basketball those other sports has not getting enough exposure for them to be notice.

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September 03, 2023, 01:46:54 PM
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Horse racing is really a harmful type of sport because I also believe that the horse rider as well as the horse are both at risk in such type of racing.
There's always some risk involved because it's a competition, but I doubt it's considered overly risky. When we compare it to other sports, there are very high-risk sports like boxing, kickboxing, and the like, yet they are popular and legally organized by promoters. There's even cockfighting, which is considered quite brutal, as the losing chicken often dies. Despite this, some countries have allowed it, with some even considering it a part of their tradition or using various justifications to make it appear acceptable.

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