Stake Scammed me off apx. 20.000 USDT!I want my hard earned money back!Help Pls!

[tetaeridanus]

I don't seen anywhere how stake.com deserves that money, If I was permanently banned.

It's not about whether or not they deserve the money. They won the money that you lost. That's all.

You know self exclusion is a must for their license right? If someone thinks they have a gambling pronlem; the casino should do what it must do and stop him from playing.

We don't live in a perfect world my friend. The reality of the world and what is happening in it is different from how it should be. Life is going to eat you alive if you aren't strong mentally and to some degree physically. Do you agree with me that addiction is a weakness and a disease? 

I am here to show the truth but since I am a newbie no one givez a single shit. I don't think visitors in this forum are so eager to register because of the act upon newbies.

This has nothing to do with you being a newbie, and I am pretty sure you know it. You are looking to vent. Stake is at fault, the forum is wrong, Pmalek is at fault because he isn't helping me. None of that makes any difference. Your addiction got you here, and I hope you will recover from it. I don't think I can wish anything better for you than to recover and become a healthy and strong individual who can take control of his life and be capable of making sound and logical decisions.   

You are right about every word you have said even If i want to accept or not, I wish I had smerits; I would have merited this. Anyways I hope you know you get my gratitude and appreciation. I will and am on the path of recovery. However I still don't believe I am at fault here.

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[holydarkness]

Welcome back! First you were saying no one's gonna reply to a degenerate, now telling me to stop the fantasy. I respect your opinion about everything and thanks for your opinions, may I ask you what is your choice of act? So Stunna has a great rep, so he can't be at fault right? You Stop the Fantasy. Yeah we will see in the future, I get act upon in every thread because of rank, like i am a spastic individual. Anyways thanks for your replies Don Dinero, even how much you are spitting at me with anger, I believe you are a genuine person. Thanks.

I am sure you misunderstood what he tried to say. I think he didn't mean to discourage you from ranking up. Rather, he's informing you that your aim is not exactly necessary. This forum, or more specifically, this board, doesn't discriminate rank, we run on evidence. So, it doesn't really matter if the accuser is a newbie with mere dozen of posts or a legendary, as long as they give supporting evidence for their claim, we'll give our best to oversee the case. As such, you being a newbie or a FM or a legendary does not change how people view your case.

If you want to pursue this matter, it'll be better to allocate your time by filing legal suits than spending it here building a legendary rank just so you can be heard [because you already been heard].

At least that's how I interpret his post.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I am sure you misunderstood what he tried to say. I think he didn't mean to discourage you from ranking up. Rather, he's informing you that your aim is not exactly necessary. This forum, or more specifically, this board, doesn't discriminate rank, we run on evidence. So, it doesn't really matter if the accuser is a newbie with mere dozen of posts or a legendary, as long as they give supporting evidence for their claim, we'll give our best to oversee the case. As such, you being a newbie or a FM or a legendary does not change how people view your case.

If you want to pursue this matter, it'll be better to allocate your time by filing legal suits than spending it here building a legendary rank just so you can be heard [because you already been heard].

At least that's how I interpret his post.

You have made a perfect interpretation of what I meant. For my part here I am going to leave the OP angry with the world, and with the forum, and with those who tell him things he doesn't like to hear even if they are true. I told him to look for a lawyer in a previous post and he didn't listen. I, for $20,000, would do it. I guess it's more comfortable for him to keep complaining on the forum, but it's not going to get him any results.

[tetaeridanus]

Dear Holydarkness and Don Pedro Dinero;

I thank both of you for your continuous replies; I am not in the best of the times this week since I have buried my grandfather to grave and not really on the 'mood', If my replies seems like I am against everything you wrote that's because of my mood and english being my second language. I am not here to rank up to make my voice heard, I am here to contribute if you look at my previous posts, I am active in this forum; at least am trying to, because I love and have been in bitcoin for many years, however never belonged to a community, which here I love it. Thanks for your replies again, sadly I don't even know a lawyer who would look to a case like this, I will start diging; secondly I appreciate both of your opinions a lot, and thank you for your help. Holydarkness, Stake didn't even try to respond since today, so I won't try to continue on this path anymore; I will take legal action, thank you for your efforts as well.

edit: Hey Don what is DT? Thanks.

Respect

Tetaeridanus✨

[holydarkness]

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edit: Hey Don what is DT? Thanks.

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I don think Don will answer [a dad joke fully intended] as your question will be very much out of topic, so I'll be brief [as much as I can, because it's a rather complex system], you can shoot me a PM if you have further question for this topic, or you can look around, there are plenty of reading material available across the boards on this forum, or ask on the beginners and help board.

In layman's term, a DT [Default Trust] is a group of people whose judgment are valued and trusted by the forum, thus when they participate on a trust flag or leave a trust feedback, what they leave will be shown for public eyes. If you see those numbers below the username on left side of everyone's post, the "-0 / =0 / +0" or on other cases, "-8 / =1 / +3" or whatever numbers showing there, it's because a DT, be it a DT1 or DT2 leave a positive, neutral, or negative feedback on that account.

When a non-DT leave their feedback, it won't show by default, you'll need to go to their trust page and click the "show ratings" on the "untrusted feedback" section to bring this up.

The list of DTs is ever changing due to the decentralized nature that theymos want to enact, you can always see the DT list here, being updated weekly.

[tetaeridanus]

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edit: Hey Don what is DT? Thanks.

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I don think Don will answer [a dad joke fully intended] as your question will be very much out of topic, so I'll be brief [as much as I can, because it's a rather complex system], you can shoot me a PM if you have further question for this topic, or you can look around, there are plenty of reading material available across the boards on this forum, or ask on the beginners and help board.

In layman's term, a DT [Default Trust] is a group of people whose judgment are valued and trusted by the forum, thus when they participate on a trust flag or leave a trust feedback, what they leave will be shown for public eyes. If you see those numbers below the username on left side of everyone's post, the "-0 / =0 / +0" or on other cases, "-8 / =1 / +3" or whatever numbers showing there, it's because a DT, be it a DT1 or DT2 leave a positive, neutral, or negative feedback on that account.

When a non-DT leave their feedback, it won't show by default, you'll need to go to their trust page and click the "show ratings" on the "untrusted feedback" section to bring this up.

The list of DTs is ever changing due to the decentralized nature that theymos want to enact, you can always see the DT list here, being updated weekly.

Thanks holydarkness for your reply! I wish I could merit you. Thanks for your activity in this forum as well, I see you in every scam accusation thread dealing with all kinds of people. I gave a trust +1 to you way back; so I can only see that, bummer😃.

Respect for your contribution.

Thanks for your answers on my thread.

[tetaeridanus]

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edit: Hey Don what is DT? Thanks.

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I don think Don will answer [a dad joke fully intended] as your question will be very much out of topic, so I'll be brief [as much as I can, because it's a rather complex system], you can shoot me a PM if you have further question for this topic, or you can look around, there are plenty of reading material available across the boards on this forum, or ask on the beginners and help board.

In layman's term, a DT [Default Trust] is a group of people whose judgment are valued and trusted by the forum, thus when they participate on a trust flag or leave a trust feedback, what they leave will be shown for public eyes. If you see those numbers below the username on left side of everyone's post, the "-0 / =0 / +0" or on other cases, "-8 / =1 / +3" or whatever numbers showing there, it's because a DT, be it a DT1 or DT2 leave a positive, neutral, or negative feedback on that account.

When a non-DT leave their feedback, it won't show by default, you'll need to go to their trust page and click the "show ratings" on the "untrusted feedback" section to bring this up.

The list of DTs is ever changing due to the decentralized nature that theymos want to enact, you can always see the DT list here, being updated weekly.

I got no replies as of the weeks past; don't you think Stake.com not replying is a problem?

[holydarkness]

I got no replies as of the weeks past; don't you think Stake.com not replying is a problem?

I didn't mean to be rude, but I thought we've come to a conclusion that if they didn't reply you by then, they're probably won't reply any further as they're sticking to their last decision?

[tetaeridanus]

I got no replies as of the weeks past; don't you think Stake.com not replying is a problem?

I didn't mean to be rude, but I thought we've come to a conclusion that if they didn't reply you by then, they're probably won't reply any further as they're sticking to their last decision?

I don't think they have a choice to not reply to a scam accussation; if they didn't what conclusion do you have to still support their decision? I don't understand your motive really holydarkness; you did a great thing and contacted them ; don't you think it is ill motivated to not reply to a scam accusation with proofs given? I seriously don't understand your pov.

Regards.

[holydarkness]

I got no replies as of the weeks past; don't you think Stake.com not replying is a problem?

I didn't mean to be rude, but I thought we've come to a conclusion that if they didn't reply you by then, they're probably won't reply any further as they're sticking to their last decision?

I don't think they have a choice to not reply to a scam accussation; if they didn't what conclusion do you have to still support their decision? I don't understand your motive really holydarkness; you did a great thing and contacted them ; don't you think it is ill motivated to not reply to a scam accusation with proofs given? I seriously don't understand your pov.

Regards.

They actually have choices to reply or not to reply to a scam accusation. The scam accusations threads are here to warn people of a scam attempts as well as give space for every involved parties to give their side. If one of the involved party didn't want to give their side, then I'm afraid there's not much we can force them to do.

As for what you [or, the other side of the involved parties, the one that's left with silence] can do, it's case-by-case basis, in several, the silence can be intepreted as an admission of guilt [depending on what the evidence point out to us] and flag or negative feedback were given as a result. Thus, if you deemed it necessary and the right thing to do, you're more than welcome to take that road. But, your case, sadly, IMO, doesn't warrant a flag. At least that's what I got after reading your case and proof you provided.

I explained my assumption here about the two pronged situation, which I am more than OK that you can't accept, as it is just my assumption, but that's the way I see and intepret your case, my very own opinion after reading the narrative and evidence so far.

Others might think differently, and they'll probably see Stake as the wrong side here, support your flag if you raise any, or leave a negative feedback themselves on Stake's account.

As for why my motive, I don't think I understand this part well, but if you're asking for I'm here, as I said here, I am not benefited in any way from this case, whatever the outcome is, I am here [on this board, not just on this thread] simply to oversee cases, probably help solving them, and that's it.

[tetaeridanus]

I got no replies as of the weeks past; don't you think Stake.com not replying is a problem?

I didn't mean to be rude, but I thought we've come to a conclusion that if they didn't reply you by then, they're probably won't reply any further as they're sticking to their last decision?

I don't think they have a choice to not reply to a scam accussation; if they didn't what conclusion do you have to still support their decision? I don't understand your motive really holydarkness; you did a great thing and contacted them ; don't you think it is ill motivated to not reply to a scam accusation with proofs given? I seriously don't understand your pov.

Regards.

They actually have choices to reply or not to reply to a scam accusation. The scam accusations threads are here to warn people of a scam attempts as well as give space for every involved parties to give their side. If one of the involved party didn't want to give their side, then I'm afraid there's not much we can force them to do.

As for what you [or, the other side of the involved parties, the one that's left with silence] can do, it's case-by-case basis, in several, the silence can be intepreted as an admission of guilt [depending on what the evidence point out to us] and flag or negative feedback were given as a result. Thus, if you deemed it necessary and the right thing to do, you're more than welcome to take that road. But, your case, sadly, IMO, doesn't warrant a flag. At least that's what I got after reading your case and proof you provided.

I explained my assumption here about the two pronged situation, which I am more than OK that you can't accept, as it is just my assumption, but that's the way I see and intepret your case, my very own opinion after reading the narrative and evidence so far.

Others might think differently, and they'll probably see Stake as the wrong side here, support your flag if you raise any, or leave a negative feedback themselves on Stake's account.

As for why my motive, I don't think I understand this part well, but if you're asking for I'm here, as I said here, I am not benefited in any way from this case, whatever the outcome is, I am here [on this board, not just on this thread] simply to oversee cases, probably help solving them, and that's it.

Holydarkness,

First of all I know your motive is helping here and not taking any sides, and I believe your good heartedness. On the other hand, I asked you what does silence mean on Stake.com's side. If you knew how this site caused my life to collapse and watched it in your eyes; you would flag this stealing attempt too, this site does not care about their customers or you or anyone here; they care about money. Their religion is money; and I will try everything I can to take my money back. How and to which account do I raise flag? I will see who is a payroller on that flag. Thanks for advance.

[holydarkness]

Holydarkness,

First of all I know your motive is helping here and not taking any sides, and I believe your good heartedness. On the other hand, I asked you what does silence mean on Stake.com's side. If you knew how this site caused my life to collapse and watched it in your eyes; you would flag this stealing attempt too, this site does not care about their customers or you or anyone here; they care about money. Their religion is money; and I will try everything I can to take my money back. How and to which account do I raise flag? I will see who is a payroller on that flag. Thanks for advance.

On that case, as I've said, I think their silence means they're sticking with their initial ruling, and that they're not going to reconsider your case. As for flagging them, which account do you want to flag? Is it Stunna, it's Stake's official account, but the account has been inactive for a while.

Basically, if you want to raise a flag against someone, you go to their trust page [go to the profile and click the button on "trust"], scroll to the bottom of the page, to the "new feedback" part, the option to add a flag will be next to a negative feedback.



There will be three type of flags you can choose [the description of each flag is there on that page]. Flag type-1, Newbie Flag, will only need 1 DT support [or 1 more DT supporting the flag against the ones opposing it], and flag type-2 and 3 will need 3 DT supports. [You can read more about flag here if you're interested].

You can ask for support or opposition for flag here. But bear in mind that DTs will not just jump into supporting [or opposing] flag blindly, for the same reason I can't: because taking an action for a flag requires us to affirm that what happens is like what's described, to the best of our knowledge, and that the flagged account indeed did as accused and/or guilty.

[tetaeridanus]

Thanks for your information; I don't see any way for you to support Stake.com since their representatives actually even replied to anything here. I wish I could open a flag against stake.com directly; I will open one for Stunna.

[tetaeridanus]

Dear Holydarkness,

Do I open a thread about I opened a flag or it doesn't work like that? Does the DT sees this?

[holydarkness]

Dear Holydarkness,

Do I open a thread about I opened a flag or it doesn't work like that? Does the DT sees this?

No, just update the opening post, adding the link to your flag. Do the DTs see your thread and flag? Well, I can say that, so far and for sure, there are three DTs overseeing your thread, given we're already commenting and giving our input. I noticed that you've also made your request here, so yeah, DT will most likely see your thread.

[tetaeridanus]

Dear Holydarkness,

Do I open a thread about I opened a flag or it doesn't work like that? Does the DT sees this?

No, just update the opening post, adding the link to your flag. Do the DTs see your thread and flag? Well, I can say that, so far and for sure, there are three DTs overseeing your thread, given we're already commenting and giving our input. I noticed that you've also made your request here, so yeah, DT will most likely see your thread.

Okay , holydarkness; thanks for your whole help sir.

With respect;

Tetaeridanus.

[LoyceV]

OP posted in Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here!, which lead to discussion there. That's not the right place, so I've deleted 7 posts and I'll quote them here. I've also Opposed the Flag.

I am an addict and I couldn't stop myself.

Get help. Block every gambling site from your hosts file. Throw away your computer. Start working out. Go watch porn. Get a different hobby. Do something. Something else than gambling.
Opening scam accusations isn't going to help you. Even if you'd get your money back, you'd instantly lose it again.

The quotes from Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here!:

I hereby opened a flag against Stunna in the name of Stake.com after I got my 20.000$ illegally stolen from me where I was able to play casino games in a excluded account. I have gotten zero replies from any Stake.com authorites so I decided to open a flag. Thanks if you both support me or oppose me.

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3231
With respect,

Tetaeridanus.

You opened a flag because you couldn't control yourself? I am sorry you lost and feel it wasn't your fault, but IMO it is your own doing. Have you tried to seek professional help for your addiction?

I hereby opened a flag against Stunna in the name of Stake.com after I got my 20.000$ illegally stolen from me where I was able to play casino games in a excluded account. I have gotten zero replies from any Stake.com authorites so I decided to open a flag. Thanks if you both support me or oppose me.

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3231
With respect,

Tetaeridanus.

You opened a flag because you couldn't control yourself? I am sorry you lost and feel it wasn't your fault, but IMO it is your own doing. Have you tried to seek professional help for your addiction?

Please read the thread; I self excluded myself from the site and my account was self-excluded from casino games; which is a legal action that requires the licenses they operate on. Self exclusion is irreversible and intact confirmed by their mail. I am sorry that you don't even bother to even read the thread; and oppose it. I am not suprised and I see you are a bounty and signature manager; I am sorry that you lack the empathy and intelligence; and yes I am getting treatment, thanks for asking.


How is it my wrong doing, where I could play on a already excluded account? There is a option to self exclude if you are an addict; which I used and selected permanently after cool-down. You really lack something, won't continue on the discussion if you are going to be blindly supporting your God which is probably your boss.

I hereby opened a flag against Stunna in the name of Stake.com after I got my 20.000$ illegally stolen from me where I was able to play casino games in a excluded account. I have gotten zero replies from any Stake.com authorites so I decided to open a flag. Thanks if you both support me or oppose me.

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3231
With respect,

Tetaeridanus.

You opened a flag because you couldn't control yourself? I am sorry you lost and feel it wasn't your fault, but IMO it is your own doing. Have you tried to seek professional help for your addiction?

Please read the thread; I self excluded myself from the site and my account was self-excluded from casino games; which is a legal action that requires the licenses they operate on. Self exclusion is irreversible and intact confirmed by their mail. I am sorry that you don't even bother to even read the thread; and oppose it. I am not suprised and I see you are a bounty and signature manager; I am sorry that you lack the empathy and intelligence; and yes I am getting treatment, thanks for asking.


How is it my wrong doing, where I could play on a already excluded account? There is a option to self exclude if you are an addict; which I used and selected permanently after cool-down. You really lack something, won't continue on the discussion if you are going to be blindly supporting your God which is probably your boss.

I read the thread and understand what the issue is. I'm glad your reaction is to be an asshole, shows me alot about you and your character. Me being any kind of manager has nothing to do with my opinion of you and the issue.

I would maybe cancel my internet if I were you. You obviously do not need it if you cannot handle losing. I wonder if you would still have the same feeling if you had won instead of losing? This is my issue with the whole situation. How many times have you logged in and played since self excluding yourself? Why didn't you instaed of depositing and gambling, contact support and talk to them about you having access to be able to gamble? No, instead you deposited, gambled, lost, and now want to whine and cry about it.

You thought you had given yourself a free gamble is what I'm seeing. Had you tried contacting support, talked to them about why your account isn't blocked, and tried to keep yourself from depositing, I may have had a different feeling about it.

There is no doubt that if what you say is true, then they need to fix their software. You may even have a legal claim, not sure on that. Does it entitle you to a refund? Cannot say, but I don't think so. You may also want to think about suing whomever is giving you help on your addiction as it's clearly not working.

I hereby opened a flag against Stunna in the name of Stake.com after I got my 20.000$ illegally stolen from me where I was able to play casino games in a excluded account. I have gotten zero replies from any Stake.com authorites so I decided to open a flag. Thanks if you both support me or oppose me.

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3231
With respect,

Tetaeridanus.

You opened a flag because you couldn't control yourself? I am sorry you lost and feel it wasn't your fault, but IMO it is your own doing. Have you tried to seek professional help for your addiction?

Please read the thread; I self excluded myself from the site and my account was self-excluded from casino games; which is a legal action that requires the licenses they operate on. Self exclusion is irreversible and intact confirmed by their mail. I am sorry that you don't even bother to even read the thread; and oppose it. I am not suprised and I see you are a bounty and signature manager; I am sorry that you lack the empathy and intelligence; and yes I am getting treatment, thanks for asking.


How is it my wrong doing, where I could play on a already excluded account? There is a option to self exclude if you are an addict; which I used and selected permanently after cool-down. You really lack something, won't continue on the discussion if you are going to be blindly supporting your God which is probably your boss.

I read the thread and understand what the issue is. I'm glad your reaction is to be an asshole, shows me alot about you and your character. Me being any kind of manager has nothing to do with my opinion of you and the issue.

I would maybe cancel my internet if I were you. You obviously do not need it if you cannot handle losing. I wonder if you would still have the same feeling if you had won instead of losing? This is my issue with the whole situation. How many times have you logged in and played since self excluding yourself? Why didn't you instaed of depositing and gambling, contact support and talk to them about you having access to be able to gamble? No, instead you deposited, gambled, lost, and now want to whine and cry about it.

You thought you had given yourself a free gamble is what I'm seeing. Had you tried contacting support, talked to them about why your account isn't blocked, and tried to keep yourself from depositing, I may have had a different feeling about it.

There is no doubt that if what you say is true, then they need to fix their software. You may even have a legal claim, not sure on that. Does it entitle you to a refund? Cannot say, but I don't think so. You may also want to think about suing whomever is giving you help on your addiction as it's clearly not working.

Why all this hatred? Why the word "asshole"? Did I insult you? I said you lack empathy, given to your response before and now you are entitled for it. You are entitled to your own opinion, so do I; Who tells I made a freeplay? That same minutes I contacted support and my VIP host and told them my situation. They immedietly closed my account; whereas it was only excluded from casino games I was able to sports bet which stake 'claims' to offer a 'casino only' exclusion. You can talk with your friends at Stake and ask them about this.I never continued depositing after this event and my stake account is closed since the very day of the photos i uploaded which the bets took place at the same hour; I didn't continue 'freerolling'. If you were not so rude I would continue talking but I get you and your idea; nothing will change the biased man.

Edit: When I asked for refund, I was ghosted than completely kicked out of stake.com (account closed), before you make allegations, please read the thread and don't be such a biased person; just my 2 cents.

You thought you had given yourself a free gamble is what I'm seeing. Had you tried contacting support, talked to them about why your account isn't blocked, and tried to keep yourself from depositing, I may have had a different feeling about it.

Yeah I did the very exact thing, and asked them why I could play casino games; they said I have a gambling addiction and didn't reply to my refund requests and went ghost mode. I will sue them in the very soon and my doctor as you told me. I don't understand your quick opposition, however I don't really want to take your time, no negativity in my life; have a nice one.

I also opposed the flag. In the thread that supports it you can see that I made comments that tetaeridanus didn't like, and, in the end, I ended up putting him in my ignore list. Psychological help is what he needs, and if he is very clear about it, he should sue Stake, but he won't get anything clear on the forum.

I also opposed the flag. In the thread that supports it you can see that I made comments that tetaeridanus didn't like, and, in the end, I ended up putting him in my ignore list. Psychological help is what he needs, and if he is very clear about it, he should sue Stake, but he won't get anything clear on the forum.

The who needs psychological help is you, who lacks intelligence of a monkey and empathy of a creature. You clearly are the most disturbed individual in this forum, you openly telling that you put me in ignore list is trying to provocate. I always acted and responded respectfully to you; however you deserve no respect whatsoever, a hopeless case which I don't think a mental hospital even won't be able to treat.