BC.game asking me to lose intentionally, then confiscating funds ---> RESOLVED!

[Jannn]

Askgamblers said I cannot re-open the case. So all there is left to to is warn other for the unfair practices of BC.game.
I would appreciate if you could support the flag but it's up to you.

I'll try to reach them once more through PM and probably TG-ing "High Priest", the representative recommended to you by Efialtis so he can tell the forum representative to come back online and give explanation about their change of findings. Let's see if we can re-deescalate this issue.

Do you mind to shot me a PM with High Priest's TG handler?

And, by the way, your link to your flag is wrong. It's this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3236

[...]

A flag has been created here: [...]

You should do the same to me and earlypaco because they clearly also LOST their case against us on casino guru and got demanded to pay us our winnings
but are not doing so, so far....

Not just on this case here !

[holydarkness]

I'll try to reach them once more through PM and probably TG-ing "High Priest", the representative recommended to you by Efialtis so he can tell the forum representative to come back online and give explanation about their change of findings. Let's see if we can re-deescalate this issue.

[...]

You should do the same to me and earlypaco because they clearly also LOST their case against us on casino guru and got demanded to pay us our winnings
but are not doing so, so far....

Not just on this case here !

I believe yours is the one with a lot of posts in all caps and profanities? Sorry, I couldn't force myself to finish reading that thread and, thus, didn't have an understanding of that thread. I rarely PM representatives for cases that I didn't oversee, and I didn't oversee cases that I didn't have an understanding on.

[Jannn]

I'll try to reach them once more through PM and probably TG-ing "High Priest", the representative recommended to you by Efialtis so he can tell the forum representative to come back online and give explanation about their change of findings. Let's see if we can re-deescalate this issue.

[...]

You should do the same to me and earlypaco because they clearly also LOST their case against us on casino guru and got demanded to pay us our winnings
but are not doing so, so far....

Not just on this case here !

I believe yours is the one with a lot of posts in all caps and profanities? Sorry, I couldn't force myself to finish reading that thread and, thus, didn't have an understanding of that thread. I rarely PM representatives for cases that I didn't oversee, and I didn't oversee cases that I didn't have an understanding on.

THEN FUCK OFF AND DIE, ASSHOLE

[GekkeBelg]

As soon as they saw I was labelled as a value bettor and my stakes are limited to a few cents max, they knew I would not be of any use for them anymore.

But if you are limited by the game provider, and everyone is saying that BC Game and 500 Casino are using the same game provider, how was your bet accepted at 500 Casino? Were you limited after you placed and won your bet on BC Game? What's your status on 500 Casino now, are you heavily limited there as well? You also mentioned being limited on Stake as well.

I am guessing that sportsbooks and betting providers cooperate in cases where it's in their interest to keep winning and/or cheating players away from their platforms. That could explain the quick limit you got on BC Game perhaps.

I was not limited in both BC.game and 500.casino before I placed the bets. Therefore I was able to place both bets. Then the next day I noticed I was limited. But the difference is that 500.casino were acting profesionally an honest by settling the bet as winner as it should be, and letting me withdraw my funds (not even KYC needed), while BC.game asked for KYC and confiscated the winnings.

And yes, I am limited in Stake as well, but this happened years ago already and it took several months before I was limited there. Stake plays no role in this case.

[GekkeBelg]

Yes, go ahead. Thanks.
Sent you a PM.

I think it might be wise to make a public record: I've send a PM to BC's representative earlier today, and shortly before I made this post, I had a chance to have a chat with High Priest on telegram. I've ask him to please inform his coworker who handle the forum to come back online. Let's wait a little and see [and hope] if things will get clearer.

This is now a week ago. Did the BC.game representative not even want to come in here to discuss the case? I see he was online yesterday, but didn't post anything.

[earlypaco]

@OP sorry for asking but are u on really good profit on bc? To me it looks like they saw u were winning too much and went through your history to single out a bet to cancel it.

There isn't much of a history to go through based on what OP said. In his own words, he registered and made only one bet on sports when this incident happened. He had some success on casino games as well. He has also been limited by the game provider to making minimum bets because, as he says, he is a successful sport bettor.
I am going to PM the BC Game forum representative and ask them why they have not replied in this thread yet!

Update on my case:
Casino Guru team has produced their final ruling:
“ Dear earlypaco
After reviewing all the evidence received from both parties and discussing the case multiple times internally, we have concluded that your winnings should be honored in this case, minus the amount already awarded. We have therefore asked the casino to reconsider its decision regarding this matter, and currently await their reply.”

BC. Game hasn’t responded yet.
link to the whole story:
https://casino.guru/bc-game-casino-player-s-withdrawal-blocked-due-to

[holydarkness]

Yes, go ahead. Thanks.
Sent you a PM.

I think it might be wise to make a public record: I've send a PM to BC's representative earlier today, and shortly before I made this post, I had a chance to have a chat with High Priest on telegram. I've ask him to please inform his coworker who handle the forum to come back online. Let's wait a little and see [and hope] if things will get clearer.

This is now a week ago. Did the BC.game representative not even want to come in here to discuss the case? I see he was online yesterday, but didn't post anything.

Umm...? That is actually what I asked you since three days ago and I've been waiting ypur answer to weighting my further step. They did not give me any follow ups and I was hoping they put an effort from your side. I take it that the silence goes on, although they were online couple of days ago and could reply for a case in AG only yesterday?

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Yes, go ahead. Thanks.
Sent you a PM.

I think it might be wise to make a public record: I've send a PM to BC's representative earlier today, and shortly before I made this post, I had a chance to have a chat with High Priest on telegram. I've ask him to please inform his coworker who handle the forum to come back online. Let's wait a little and see [and hope] if things will get clearer.

This is now a week ago. Did the BC.game representative not even want to come in here to discuss the case? I see he was online yesterday, but didn't post anything.

Umm...? That is actually what I asked you since three days ago and I've been waiting ypur answer to weighting my further step. They did not give me any follow ups and I was hoping they put an effort from your side. I take it that the silence goes on, although they were online couple of days ago and could reply for a case in AG only yesterday?

In this case I think there is a key point: Jannn says in another thread the following:

Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.

As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.

lol

I have asked him to provide proof of this, if it is true that they display a fake licence, they deserve red tags from DT and probably a flag. There are several unresolved scam accusations, some not even addressed, lost cases at Casino Guru to which the displayed fake licence should be added. As I said in a thread on this I think their bonus policy would be illegal in regulated European gambling houses.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, you know.

[holydarkness]

In this case I think there is a key point: Jannn says in another thread the following:

Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.

As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.

lol

I have asked him to provide proof of this, if it is true that they display a fake licence, they deserve red tags from DT and probably a flag. There are several unresolved scam accusations, some not even addressed, lost cases at Casino Guru to which the displayed fake licence should be added. As I said in a thread on this I think their bonus policy would be illegal in regulated European gambling houses.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, you know.

That's because they're not under CEG [casino e-gaming] , their license is under CIL [Curacao Interactive Licensing] , as shown on the bottom of their website, on the seal of validation



But yeah, I was waiting for Gekke's confirmation about no response from them, and support the flag or remain silence based on his answer, as well as planning to make a post consisting a list of open scam accusations against them to be used as a reference for their tag.

It'll be best to keep forum members informed about the risk they might face when playing on BC for the time being, a silence while their account got in trouble.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

That's because they're not under CEG [casino e-gaming] , their license is under CIL [Curacao Interactive Licensing] , as shown on the bottom of their website, on the seal of validation

I had imagined that what Jannn was saying was not entirely reliable, which is why I had asked him for proof.

But yeah, I was waiting for Gekke's confirmation about no response from them, and support the flag or remain silence based on his answer, as well as planning to make a post consisting a list of open scam accusations against them to be used as a reference for their tag.

It'll be best to keep forum members informed about the risk they might face when playing on BC for the time being, a silence while their account got in trouble.

I'll keep an eye on these issues as well, for the moment I have left a neutral tag (which will not be displayed by default).

[mojdragane]

I just happened to see this thread, and would like to join in as someone who has been betting at a very high level for over 15 years.

First of all, I have to say that any theories about the odds being "wrong" in an event like MLB are ridiculous. It is not a small market like the Bulgarian second basketball league, but a market that can absorb millions of dollars without any problems.

Therefore, it is a real mystery to me why the author of this thread made such a bet at any crypto casino, instead of for example at Pinnacle where a click is probably $50.000 and more.

What BC.game did is just an demonstration that anyone on the internet can open a casino, get a license for a few thousand dollars, invest in promos also few thousands, and in this way literally rip off anyone for any amount. There is absolutely no valid explanation for voiding someone's winning MLB, NBA, NFL, or any other big-market bet.

If I can help the author in any way, I would be very happy to do so, and the advice for the future is to play such bets at places like Pinnacle, Asian agents like Sportmarket, etc.

[GekkeBelg]

Yes, go ahead. Thanks.
Sent you a PM.

I think it might be wise to make a public record: I've send a PM to BC's representative earlier today, and shortly before I made this post, I had a chance to have a chat with High Priest on telegram. I've ask him to please inform his coworker who handle the forum to come back online. Let's wait a little and see [and hope] if things will get clearer.

This is now a week ago. Did the BC.game representative not even want to come in here to discuss the case? I see he was online yesterday, but didn't post anything.

Umm...? That is actually what I asked you since three days ago and I've been waiting ypur answer to weighting my further step. They did not give me any follow ups and I was hoping they put an effort from your side. I take it that the silence goes on, although they were online couple of days ago and could reply for a case in AG only yesterday?

Oh, I'm sorry, you are right. I did read your post but missed the whole part below the line in your post. I guess that line (why even use it?) fooled me into thinking the text below it was some sort of signature text and therefore I didn't think about reading it.\

But no, they never got in touch with me and I am pretty sure it won't happen anymore either.

[GekkeBelg]

I just happened to see this thread, and would like to join in as someone who has been betting at a very high level for over 15 years.

First of all, I have to say that any theories about the odds being "wrong" in an event like MLB are ridiculous. It is not a small market like the Bulgarian second basketball league, but a market that can absorb millions of dollars without any problems.

Therefore, it is a real mystery to me why the author of this thread made such a bet at any crypto casino, instead of for example at Pinnacle where a click is probably $50.000 and more.

What BC.game did is just an demonstration that anyone on the internet can open a casino, get a license for a few thousand dollars, invest in promos also few thousands, and in this way literally rip off anyone for any amount. There is absolutely no valid explanation for voiding someone's winning MLB, NBA, NFL, or any other big-market bet.

If I can help the author in any way, I would be very happy to do so, and the advice for the future is to play such bets at places like Pinnacle, Asian agents like Sportmarket, etc.

As a succesful bettor, you must know that to remain profitable in the long run, it's vital to always have a few (at least 5) bookies open at the same time to be ready to grab the best odds out of those 5 available to place your bet on. In this case BC.game was the best available for me. But not so far off that the odds can be considered wrong. Sometimes Pinnacle is the highest, sometimes another, sometimes another and sometimes another. It's just kind of random and business as usual, until they started voiding this bet.

And btw. if you want to help me (or rather help warning possible future customers of BC.game) then please support my flag. You can find the URL of it somewhere on this or the previous page in this topic.

[holydarkness]

Umm...? That is actually what I asked you since three days ago and I've been waiting ypur answer to weighting my further step. They did not give me any follow ups and I was hoping they put an effort from your side. I take it that the silence goes on, although they were online couple of days ago and could reply for a case in AG only yesterday?

Oh, I'm sorry, you are right. I did read your post but missed the whole part below the line in your post. I guess that line (why even use it?) fooled me into thinking the text below it was some sort of signature text and therefore I didn't think about reading it.\

But no, they never got in touch with me and I am pretty sure it won't happen anymore either.

I use that horizontal line to indicate a separate reply [mostly, though it's also used for other purposes in some occasions] when addressing more than one post or user in single reply. Posting consecutive posts are not allowed by the forum rules.

Anyway, flag supported for the time being due to their silence and inaction although many means of communication has been exhausted. You're raising a type-3 flag, a violation of written contract, you'll need three DT supports, you'll need two more after mine to activate it.

p.s.: can you please add the link to your flag to your opening post? It'll help people taking action to the flag, so they don't have to browse the entire thread just to find it.

[GekkeBelg]

Umm...? That is actually what I asked you since three days ago and I've been waiting ypur answer to weighting my further step. They did not give me any follow ups and I was hoping they put an effort from your side. I take it that the silence goes on, although they were online couple of days ago and could reply for a case in AG only yesterday?

Oh, I'm sorry, you are right. I did read your post but missed the whole part below the line in your post. I guess that line (why even use it?) fooled me into thinking the text below it was some sort of signature text and therefore I didn't think about reading it.\

But no, they never got in touch with me and I am pretty sure it won't happen anymore either.

I use that horizontal line to indicate a separate reply [mostly, though it's also used for other purposes in some occasions] when addressing more than one post or user in single reply. Posting consecutive posts are not allowed by the forum rules.

Anyway, flag supported for the time being due to their silence and inaction although many means of communication has been exhausted. You're raising a type-3 flag, a violation of written contract, you'll need three DT supports, you'll need two more after mine to activate it.

p.s.: can you please add the link to your flag to your opening post? It'll help people taking action to the flag, so they don't have to browse the entire thread just to find it.

Thanks. I have added the flag URL into the first post now.

What is a DT member? Any legendary status?

Can you tell me against where I can ask for flag support? I think somebody told me before but I completely forgot.

[holydarkness]

Thanks. I have added the flag URL into the first post now.

What is a DT member? Any legendary status?

Can you tell me against where I can ask for flag support? I think somebody told me before but I completely forgot.

Simplified DT [Default Trust] are list of people whose judgment and views of many aspects are considered as... "trusted" by the forum. If you see that score next to each username, the +0/ =0 /-0, some shows +4 and some shows -5, that's because a DT leave a feedback on that user's trust score, either a positive, neutral, or negative. +4 means 4 DT leave a positive feedback on them, =3 means 3 DT leave neutral feedback on them, -5 means 5 DT, and so on.

If a non-DT leave a feedback, their feedback won't show by default and won't reflect on their trust score, though it's still accessible through "show ratings" below the "untrusted feedback" part of the trust page.

Similarly, a flag requires DT supports to be active. You can have dozens of users supporting it, and it still won't be active unless the DT supports requirements are met, as you can see in your own flag, where many people were supporting it, yet it's still not active due to insufficient support.

1 DT support for type-1 flag, and 3 DT supports for each type-2 and type-3 flag.

3 supports means there has to be 3 DTs more in total who supports or opposes it. So, suppose it's supported by 3 DTs and opposed by 1 DT, it still won't active, as the total who supports it were only 2 [unless it's opposed by a DT2 and supported by DT1, but let's not swim in that headache right now]. Similarly, if it's supported by several DTs and opposed by more DTs, it won't be active.

And no, a rank won't affect it, neither is merit. Someone can be a legendary with 10,000 merit [and let me throw +100 feedback, while we're at it] and he's probably still not a DT. There are other sytem and a whole different mechanism regarding DT, but that's the gist of it. If you have more questions about DT, feel free to ask.

As for the link, it's here: Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here!

[Coin_trader]

Supported the flag too since BC acknowledged your case yet they are still silent even though are online few days ago. I believe they are intentionally ignoring most of their cases here since their reputation is still not affected even with their silence.

I just hope that they will notice this flag support. I’m thinking of leaving negative feedback but I just want them to reply first here to get their side. For the meantime, I support this flag since I really didn’t like their silence on this blatant unethical method of support just to hold the profit of OP. Will remove the support once they reply a convincing explanation that is long overdue.

[holydarkness]

Supported the flag too since BC acknowledged your case yet they are still silent even though are online few days ago. I believe they are intentionally ignoring most of their cases here since their reputation is still not affected even with their silence.

I just hope that they will notice this flag support. I’m thinking of leaving negative feedback but I just want them to reply first here to get their side. For the meantime, I support this flag since I really didn’t like their silence on this blatant unethical method of support just to hold the profit of OP. Will remove the support once they reply a convincing explanation that is long overdue.

I initially was hesitant to leave a feedback, but the amount of complaint raised against them was quite worrying, not to mention that my invitations to get their sides on those cases turned to deaf ears, so I thought it'll be better to warn the community for the time being, to proceed playing on their site with some wisdom

[GekkeBelg]

Thanks guys, I see the flag is already supported enough to get a big warning message above the official BC.game thread. I hope this wakes them up, and if not, I hope this warns possible future customers.

[mojdragane]

I just happened to see this thread, and would like to join in as someone who has been betting at a very high level for over 15 years.

First of all, I have to say that any theories about the odds being "wrong" in an event like MLB are ridiculous. It is not a small market like the Bulgarian second basketball league, but a market that can absorb millions of dollars without any problems.

Therefore, it is a real mystery to me why the author of this thread made such a bet at any crypto casino, instead of for example at Pinnacle where a click is probably $50.000 and more.

What BC.game did is just an demonstration that anyone on the internet can open a casino, get a license for a few thousand dollars, invest in promos also few thousands, and in this way literally rip off anyone for any amount. There is absolutely no valid explanation for voiding someone's winning MLB, NBA, NFL, or any other big-market bet.

If I can help the author in any way, I would be very happy to do so, and the advice for the future is to play such bets at places like Pinnacle, Asian agents like Sportmarket, etc.

As a succesful bettor, you must know that to remain profitable in the long run, it's vital to always have a few (at least 5) bookies open at the same time to be ready to grab the best odds out of those 5 available to place your bet on. In this case BC.game was the best available for me. But not so far off that the odds can be considered wrong. Sometimes Pinnacle is the highest, sometimes another, sometimes another and sometimes another. It's just kind of random and business as usual, until they started voiding this bet.

And btw. if you want to help me (or rather help warning possible future customers of BC.game) then please support my flag. You can find the URL of it somewhere on this or the previous page in this topic.

Flag supported. Once again, really shameful what they did to you. Voiding bets on MLB is a special level of misery.