Never gamble in front of your kids.

[$weetne$$]

You should also take it in consideration that kids learn faster in anything they are curious about so yeah it really is very wrong if kids are in front of us while we are busy doing our thing in gambling. All the things we do might be absorbed by their young and weak minds so beware of it as it might influence them way too early in that vice.

Kids are fast learners, they copy everything that they see you do because they do not know the difference between what is right to do and what is wrong to do. Kids can copy you gambling and they would start doing it without your awareness. Before you can catch them in the act of gambling, they might already be addicts and it will become more difficult to help them fight their addiction since they're kids. Gambling should not be done where your kids can see you. If you are gambling on your phone or laptop, you can stay in your room or work space that it will look like you are working while you are gambling so they do not know what is going on. You should not also talk about gambling in front of your kids because they can learn from hearing too as they will want to try out what they heard their parents talking about.

[Fredomago]

You should also take it in consideration that kids learn faster in anything they are curious about so yeah it really is very wrong if kids are in front of us while we are busy doing our thing in gambling. All the things we do might be absorbed by their young and weak minds so beware of it as it might influence them way too early in that vice.

Kids are fast learners, they copy everything that they see you do because they do not know the difference between what is right to do and what is wrong to do. Kids can copy you gambling and they would start doing it without your awareness. Before you can catch them in the act of gambling, they might already be addicts and it will become more difficult to help them fight their addiction since they're kids. Gambling should not be done where your kids can see you. If you are gambling on your phone or laptop, you can stay in your room or work space that it will look like you are working while you are gambling so they do not know what is going on. You should not also talk about gambling in front of your kids because they can learn from hearing too as they will want to try out what they heard their parents talking about.

It's our awareness that's needed to avoid things to happen, like many said kids are really good in following what they are seeing from their surroundings once thier interest get their attentions expect that they will really put their time in learning things, we might be surprise knowing that they are already inside gambling using either our devices or our access.

As long as the kids already have the access to the internet, expect them to make something unexpected, better to hide or make sure to explain what you are doing and what harm can bring to them, they need to learn to avoid their curiosity once you gives them proper guidance.

[Dewi Aries]

Kids are fast learners, they copy everything that they see you do because they do not know the difference between what is right to do and what is wrong to do. Kids can copy you gambling and they would start doing it without your awareness. Before you can catch them in the act of gambling, they might already be addicts and it will become more difficult to help them fight their addiction since they're kids. Gambling should not be done where your kids can see you. If you are gambling on your phone or laptop, you can stay in your room or work space that it will look like you are working while you are gambling so they do not know what is going on. You should not also talk about gambling in front of your kids because they can learn from hearing too as they will want to try out what they heard their parents talking about.

It's our awareness that's needed to avoid things to happen, like many said kids are really good in following what they are seeing from their surroundings once thier interest get their attentions expect that they will really put their time in learning things, we might be surprise knowing that they are already inside gambling using either our devices or our access.

As long as the kids already have the access to the internet, expect them to make something unexpected, better to hide or make sure to explain what you are doing and what harm can bring to them, they need to learn to avoid their curiosity once you gives them proper guidance.

Exactly, a child has a very high level of curiosity about everything they see, usually they will not think about whether the activity is prohibited or not, but certainly if they see that the adults around them are doing it then obviously they will assume or think that it is okay to do, and this is why many people recommend that it is better to do a negative activity out of the reach of a child, I think there are still quite a lot of times that you can use to gamble, such as when they are napping or at night. And if it turns out that you don't pay much attention to the safety of a child and then gamble when you are around them then yes as you said above that maybe we will be surprised when we see that they can access or operate their smartphones to reach online casinos.

In the end it is clear that if we think using common sense and rational thinking then there is no other better idea than to hide our gambling activities and gamble when we are away from the reach of a child, and besides that make sure to always limit a child's use of smartphones, because it is a fact that many casinos are now doing large promotions on the internet that might make you reach gambling sites.

[Betwrong]

From observation, if parents give a description to what they are doing and answer most of the questions children raise, then parents can do almost everything that is morally ethical in front of them. I notice that most of posters here mention that parents are afraid that kids might get gambling addiction. Then why not it would be better to explain to children what is gambling addiction. Because it looks from the side that parents protect children from things they dont know. And it would be better to protect kids from dangers and troubles they might get today and in near in future, then in far future.

You are right, but that wouldn't be something that could be called "gambling in front of your kids". I'd call it education. Of course, it's the right thing to do. But still the children must be old enough to be able to understand certain things. I think if they are under 7, it's hard to teach them anything, including things like possible bad consequences of gambling. If you ask me, I would start from 11-12. And it's very important that the instruction were coming from people whom kids trust. Or it may have a reverse effect altogether.

[TopTort777]

From observation, if parents give a description to what they are doing and answer most of the questions children raise, then parents can do almost everything that is morally ethical in front of them. I notice that most of posters here mention that parents are afraid that kids might get gambling addiction. Then why not it would be better to explain to children what is gambling addiction. Because it looks from the side that parents protect children from things they dont know. And it would be better to protect kids from dangers and troubles they might get today and in near in future, then in far future.

You are right, but that wouldn't be something that could be called "gambling in front of your kids". I'd call it education. Of course, it's the right thing to do. But still the children must be old enough to be able to understand certain things. I think if they are under 7, it's hard to teach them anything, including things like possible bad consequences of gambling. If you ask me, I would start from 11-12. And it's very important that the instruction were coming from people whom kids trust. Or it may have a reverse effect altogether.

Or, at 7, it is enough to tell the kid that this should not be done on his own, and he could start gambling only from 18. And that would be enough. Thus 11-12 yo will sure ask lots of extra questions, mainly starting with "why". Anyway, since there is a lot of gambling, direct and indirect around, then I insist, that parents should at least explain what it is.

Recently found a perfect example. Our local TV, on Sunday show national lottery rounds at 11-12 o`clock in the morning. The time when most of family is already awake, turn tv just for the background. So unintentionally kids learn what is gambling, by watching how smallball whirlwind in the transparent ball. Of course that raises million questions and is interesting. Now I am returning to suggestion to hide act of gambling, when kids see gambling on tv and or as ads during streaming video they see on devices. Even every cash desk, where candies and gums are, lottery tickets are just in few centimetres away.

What I am saying, that hiding gambling isnt work, as gambling surround kids everywhere. And it would be better to explain them what it is, instead of hiding.

[piebeyb]

As long as the kids already have the access to the internet, expect them to make something unexpected, better to hide or make sure to explain what you are doing and what harm can bring to them, they need to learn to avoid their curiosity once you gives them proper guidance.

Maybe we can make a few adjustments to the browsers they use so that they don't access anything related to gambling, even though it seems difficult, there is definitely a way to do that, to minimize children from seeing videos of streamers or influencers who promote gambling too, social media is also an opportunity. promotion of gambling sites which until now cannot be restricted by the government, but maybe it can be filtered so that things don't happen that we don't want to happen, at least advise people not to look for something they shouldn't want to know.

I limit it to my children and so up to now my children have never asked me about gambling, let alone shown me that there are sites that can make money. I always pay attention to my children at home because that is important in keeping our children from going in the wrong direction. Basically, any question your child asks, just answer it easily without it seeming like we're making a fuss about giving the answer to our child. A child is easily curious when his curiosity is high enough. Be a parent who always has plenty of time for your children, it's important to look after them.

[TopTort777]

As long as the kids already have the access to the internet, expect them to make something unexpected, better to hide or make sure to explain what you are doing and what harm can bring to them, they need to learn to avoid their curiosity once you gives them proper guidance.

Maybe we can make a few adjustments to the browsers they use so that they don't access anything related to gambling, even though it seems difficult, there is definitely a way to do that, to minimize children from seeing videos of streamers or influencers who promote gambling too, social media is also an opportunity. promotion of gambling sites which until now cannot be restricted by the government, but maybe it can be filtered so that things don't happen that we don't want to happen, at least advise people not to look for something they shouldn't want to know.

I limit it to my children and so up to now my children have never asked me about gambling, let alone shown me that there are sites that can make money. I always pay attention to my children at home because that is important in keeping our children from going in the wrong direction. Basically, any question your child asks, just answer it easily without it seeming like we're making a fuss about giving the answer to our child. A child is easily curious when his curiosity is high enough. Be a parent who always has plenty of time for your children, it's important to look after them.

You are absolutely right by saying that some adjustments must be done. For example, every kid nowadays have a devices with internet access. Any kid can watch any content when parents are not around. Even Youtube kids is not a safe anymore. Somehow bloggers and their content sneaked through filters. Not saying that it is a must to do adjustment, because not every kids intends to open casino site as quick as possible when adults are not around. But some kind of switch for safety mode must be done.

[Betwrong]

~ I would start from 11-12. And it's very important that the instruction were coming from people whom kids trust. Or it may have a reverse effect altogether.

Or, at 7, it is enough to tell the kid that this should not be done on his own, and he could start gambling only from 18. And that would be enough. Thus 11-12 yo will sure ask lots of extra questions, mainly starting with "why". Anyway, since there is a lot of gambling, direct and indirect around, then I insist, that parents should at least explain what it is.

It's never so easy. Or, at least, in many cases it's not. If you don't want to be a tyrant and you want your kids were open-minded and free-thinking individuals, you can't expect absolute obedience from them.

~ What I am saying, that hiding gambling isnt work, as gambling surround kids everywhere. And it would be better to explain them what it is, instead of hiding.

That's what I totally agree with! Don't forbid them touching it until they 18(btw, I think it's better to wait until 20), don't hide it from them(because it's impossible actually), but rather explain it to them on the language they can understand at their current age.

[TopTort777]

~ I would start from 11-12. And it's very important that the instruction were coming from people whom kids trust. Or it may have a reverse effect altogether.

Or, at 7, it is enough to tell the kid that this should not be done on his own, and he could start gambling only from 18. And that would be enough. Thus 11-12 yo will sure ask lots of extra questions, mainly starting with "why". Anyway, since there is a lot of gambling, direct and indirect around, then I insist, that parents should at least explain what it is.

It's never so easy. Or, at least, in many cases it's not. If you don't want to be a tyrant and you want your kids were open-minded and free-thinking individuals, you can't expect absolute obedience from them.

I am not a tyrant in my family, but my kid respect and trust me. I have proved that I am more smart and experienced, and made kid understand that. So when I tell dont touch the fire you will get hurt, the kid listens to me. And when I say that "you are to young to gamble right now, but let me explain why" that usually works. The kid listen to what I say. I am lucky that I try to give much explanations and "how would be better" now, when kid is not a teenager yet. Because a teenager will do all opposite to what I tell.

~ What I am saying, that hiding gambling isnt work, as gambling surround kids everywhere. And it would be better to explain them what it is, instead of hiding.

That's what I totally agree with! Don't forbid them touching it until they 18(btw, I think it's better to wait until 20), don't hide it from them(because it's impossible actually), but rather explain it to them on the language they can understand at their current age.

I am the follower of the idea "simply banning, prohibiting, saying no" never works. That only postpones everything. Better explain today and get less problems in future.

[Betwrong]

~ If you don't want to be a tyrant and you want your kids were open-minded and free-thinking individuals, you can't expect absolute obedience from them.

I am not a tyrant in my family, but my kid respect and trust me. I have proved that I am more smart and experienced, and made kid understand that. So when I tell dont touch the fire you will get hurt, the kid listens to me. And when I say that "you are to young to gamble right now, but let me explain why" that usually works. The kid listen to what I say. I am lucky that I try to give much explanations and "how would be better" now, when kid is not a teenager yet. Because a teenager will do all opposite to what I tell.

Good for you! You showed your kids that you worth of respect not through use of force but through examples. Not many parents can say that rightfully. And yet you understand that a teenager will be doing everything not like you said. I admire you. Being a father myself, I can say that you really know how to raise your kids.

~

I am the follower of the idea "simply banning, prohibiting, saying no" never works. That only postpones everything. Better explain today and get less problems in future.

Again, what can I say? I couldn't agree more. Normally, it's not easy to find the right words for your little kids to explain that they shouldn't gamble before time, but I'm sure you'll find them.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

As long as the kids already have the access to the internet, expect them to make something unexpected, better to hide or make sure to explain what you are doing and what harm can bring to them, they need to learn to avoid their curiosity once you gives them proper guidance.

Maybe we can make a few adjustments to the browsers they use so that they don't access anything related to gambling, even though it seems difficult, there is definitely a way to do that, to minimize children from seeing videos of streamers or influencers who promote gambling too, social media is also an opportunity. promotion of gambling sites which until now cannot be restricted by the government, but maybe it can be filtered so that things don't happen that we don't want to happen, at least advise people not to look for something they shouldn't want to know.

I limit it to my children and so up to now my children have never asked me about gambling, let alone shown me that there are sites that can make money. I always pay attention to my children at home because that is important in keeping our children from going in the wrong direction. Basically, any question your child asks, just answer it easily without it seeming like we're making a fuss about giving the answer to our child. A child is easily curious when his curiosity is high enough. Be a parent who always has plenty of time for your children, it's important to look after them.

You are absolutely right by saying that some adjustments must be done. For example, every kid nowadays have a devices with internet access. Any kid can watch any content when parents are not around. Even Youtube kids is not a safe anymore. Somehow bloggers and their content sneaked through filters. Not saying that it is a must to do adjustment, because not every kids intends to open casino site as quick as possible when adults are not around. But some kind of switch for safety mode must be done.

I've emphasized on this before, but let me say it again that, a child that will gamble will gamble, regardless of how the  parents try to keep him or her away from adult contents (like online Casino ads, and they themselves(parents) not gambling in the front of their kids).

It is imperative  or very important for us to know that what our kids do not learn while at home, they will definitely learn it when they are in school if they are keeping the wrong company, and it is absolutely impossible for parents to be with their kids 24 hours a day.
So, as much as we try our possible best as parents, to make sure our kids are only exposed to online contents that is healthy for them and their growing up, it's also very important that we pay very close attention to the type of people they are hanging out with while in school, doesnt matter if the ward is a child or adult, wrong friends is how many people get destroyed.

[Chilwell]

Children do learn very fast expecially when they are seeing it practically, so it never a good idea we should gamble in front of our kids because paraventure they learn doing this  things you might probably be in danger as there parents because you will the to take full responsibility of what will be the outcome probably they might start stealing in order to gamble they might be caught on the process and get arrested you as the parents will still be the one to bail them out, there are some things we shouldn't do in the presence of our kids not just gambling but smoking as well or beating your wife in the presence of your kids.

Gambling in front of the children shouldn't happen because children at young age don't have their own opinion they copy all what their parents do, not until they asked them to learn from but one thing with children even by watching they are learning, doing all sorts of bad things in from of them is actually wrong, even the father that his engage gambling faces a lot of challenges in process of gambling, he know what he felt when he lost and again father can be able to control himself when gambling, he knows when money has finished and he face the consequences of any thing that happened since he is an adult. But when it come to children issue father will the responsibility, we shouldn't gamble in their presence to avoid future problems that can be out of hand.

[Cityhunter34]

Hey gamblers' community, hope you're all doing great.
I wanted to convey my message here that gambling in front of our kids may put adverse effects on their growing minds and they may also take the wrong path and start gambling (either by asking you personally for funds or by stealing it in order to fulfill their gambling cravings).

I'm sharing this because I saw this issue with my kiddo who was once watching me gamble at a website playing blackjack and she started asking me more about the game. Then one day, she wanted to play it herself and asked me if she can go for it and I said "no, it's not your legal age to go for such games". So, it's better to keep our kiddos away from gambling and let them focus on their studies, else it'd actually ruin everything for the whole family if the kid takes the wrong path.

Perfectly said because this is what is really causing problem in some many families today and is very wrong sometimes I used to wonder why some elderly people will sit in the front of their children and be doing gambling research without noing that it we going to lead them into gambling tomorrow, although just like one family their father is a gambler and when ever his doing gambling focast he normally do it in front of him children and he was thinking that he is doing good to him children without noing that he is paving way for them into getting addicted to gambling today na the family is on fire, that is why is not really good to they gamble in front of  your children.

[TopTort777]

I've emphasized on this before, but let me say it again that, a child that will gamble will gamble, regardless of how the  parents try to keep him or her away from adult contents (like online Casino ads, and they themselves(parents) not gambling in the front of their kids).

I have written above about parents reputation. Of course the will gamble if he wants to gamble, no matter how hard you protect him from gambling or forbid it. A person can not control kids 24/7 or turn their life like they are living on a leash. However, parents reputation can be so high, that kids will trust parents opinion more than some other kid on the street. I hope that works with my kid. I hope that when I am not around, my kid dont something stupid or illegal. I dont know how to explain it properly, I have built relationship with my kid not like father and daughter, but like father+friend and daughter. I try to be on the same wave with kids of her age and little bit above, and direct it to a more positive direction.

Now about gambling, we have tried playing some gambling games at home. She had little interest to it. I dont think that she will try to gamble on the street to get some money (because she tries to earn for a new mobile). She earns a little by helping her mother doing house work. My solution with kid and gambling situation is quite simple. My kid is busy most of the time. Doing something creative, sports, reading, limited gadget time (this applied to all family members, I find it fair to do like this), hanging out outside. I believe that kid is so busy, that dont have time for gambling.

[jcojci]

Gambling in front of the children shouldn't happen because children at young age don't have their own opinion they copy all what their parents do, not until they asked them to learn from but one thing with children even by watching they are learning, doing all sorts of bad things in from of them is actually wrong, even the father that his engage gambling faces a lot of challenges in process of gambling, he know what he felt when he lost and again father can be able to control himself when gambling, he knows when money has finished and he face the consequences of any thing that happened since he is an adult. But when it come to children issue father will the responsibility, we shouldn't gamble in their presence to avoid future problems that can be out of hand.

Children now can copy what they see in front of them easily without other adult people knows and realizes. Children can understand something without asking so they can try by themselves if they thinks that thing is excited. They will not knows that is a wrong thing because their minds is not understand the name and other thing. They even can try with their friends without adult people knows and when they gets deeper and often playing gambling with their friends, that will trigger them to be a gambler. If no one is realizes about that, they can becomes addicted gambler and their parents will be too late to realizes that their children is change.

The other problem that children will gets is a changing of the emotion because when they see adult people or their father lose their money in gambling, their father will say many bad things and even their father can angry to other people around him. That can trigger another problem for children, especially if they often see that happens and will thinks that is usual thing.

[Out of mind]

You should also take it in consideration that kids learn faster in anything they are curious about so yeah it really is very wrong if kids are in front of us while we are busy doing our thing in gambling. All the things we do might be absorbed by their young and weak minds so beware of it as it might influence them way too early in that vice.

Kids are fast learners, they copy everything that they see you do because they do not know the difference between what is right to do and what is wrong to do. Kids can copy you gambling and they would start doing it without your awareness. Before you can catch them in the act of gambling, they might already be addicts and it will become more difficult to help them fight their addiction since they're kids. Gambling should not be done where your kids can see you. If you are gambling on your phone or laptop, you can stay in your room or work space that it will look like you are working while you are gambling so they do not know what is going on. You should not also talk about gambling in front of your kids because they can learn from hearing too as they will want to try out what they heard their parents talking about.

Of course, you are right that when a child sees their peers doing something they copy and try to learn, and they can learn quickly. When a person mentions gambling in front of his child, and he gambles, the child will learn about it gradually and at some point he will be attracted to gambling. Children always learn everything by watching their parents, so all persons should do everything behind the children to refrain from doing bad things and doing anything that could cause harm to children. It is by all means a guardian to be careful that his child does not learn and imitate gambling or any vice. So if you want to gamble, you must eat secretly, you should not play in front of a child. However, children can copy everything at a young age and what they can see and copy in their brains from childhood they will understand and focus on as they grow up.

[danherbias07]

I am the follower of the idea "simply banning, prohibiting, saying no" never works. That only postpones everything. Better explain today and get less problems in future.

I cannot get used to that kind of belief but I am trying. There are so many things that I see in my kid's YouTube history and sometimes I wonder how it all happened. Damn recommendations. Anyway, sometimes explanations are not enough or you have to repeat it to them over and over again so that they won't forget or they will remember it as soon as they go on that website, a game, or a video.
I have two kids who are both using a smartphone at an early age and thankfully they are more hooked into games but there will be times when they will get bored of it and that's when they switch to watching videos.
I still want to preserve their innocent minds so I don't explain things they cannot understand yet. I only pick those I think they would have an idea with and let them answer freely about what they think of it. Luckily, I don't see any gambling histories yet.

[TopTort777]

Children now can copy what they see in front of them easily without other adult people knows and realizes. Children can understand something without asking so they can try by themselves if they thinks that thing is excited. They will not knows that is a wrong thing because their minds is not understand the name and other thing. They even can try with their friends without adult people knows and when they gets deeper and often playing gambling with their friends, that will trigger them to be a gambler. If no one is realizes about that, they can becomes addicted gambler and their parents will be too late to realizes that their children is change.

The other problem that children will gets is a changing of the emotion because when they see adult people or their father lose their money in gambling, their father will say many bad things and even their father can angry to other people around him. That can trigger another problem for children, especially if they often see that happens and will thinks that is usual thing.

You know, the thing is, what you say might be true, and might be not. Such things might happen, or might never happen. It is a 50/50 chance, and in addition every human is different. But what you purpose is only one side of the coin.

Why someone should not gamble in front of his kids, when kids never get addicted, will never show interest to gambling, and are emotionally stable. This means such person will be hiding his gambling routine for nothing. The same as your might hide everything, but your kid will familiar with gambling on the street. You might be the most calm person in the world, but your kid might get crazy and start tearing off hair after loosing in rock-paper-scissors.

Again people say that "kid might get addicted". But nobody can tell what the kid is going to be in 10-15 years. And its parents duty to observe how their kids behave and changes. They are responsible for spotting that something is wrong and try to fix that. Also, how many cases of kids becoming addicted by watching their parents gamble you know? Probably 100 or 200, out of billion parents that have kids and at least once gamble in front of them or kids saw game of gambling.

[Fredomago]

I am the follower of the idea "simply banning, prohibiting, saying no" never works. That only postpones everything. Better explain today and get less problems in future.

I cannot get used to that kind of belief but I am trying. There are so many things that I see in my kid's YouTube history and sometimes I wonder how it all happened. Damn recommendations. Anyway, sometimes explanations are not enough or you have to repeat it to them over and over again so that they won't forget or they will remember it as soon as they go on that website, a game, or a video.
I have two kids who are both using a smartphone at an early age and thankfully they are more hooked into games but there will be times when they will get bored of it and that's when they switch to watching videos.
I still want to preserve their innocent minds so I don't explain things they cannot understand yet. I only pick those I think they would have an idea with and let them answer freely about what they think of it. Luckily, I don't see any gambling histories yet.

Same with you, I also have two kids and even how busy am I working I never failed to check their devices, it's better to keep finding that time to make sure that there's nothing that will gain there attentions, though not just limited to gambling but also to other things that will attract their interest, like what you said, sometimes explaining is not enough as kids nowadays have more access to information and if you failed to guide them and make them understand chances that in their early age they might be hook to something that may develop inside them and you may find yourself late trying to expalin things out.

[Frankolala]

You should also take it in consideration that kids learn faster in anything they are curious about so yeah it really is very wrong if kids are in front of us while we are busy doing our thing in gambling. All the things we do might be absorbed by their young and weak minds so beware of it as it might influence them way too early in that vice.

Kids are fast learners, they copy everything that they see you do because they do not know the difference between what is right to do and what is wrong to do. Kids can copy you gambling and they would start doing it without your awareness. Before you can catch them in the act of gambling, they might already be addicts and it will become more difficult to help them fight their addiction since they're kids. Gambling should not be done where your kids can see you. If you are gambling on your phone or laptop, you can stay in your room or work space that it will look like you are working while you are gambling so they do not know what is going on. You should not also talk about gambling in front of your kids because they can learn from hearing too as they will want to try out what they heard their parents talking about.

Of course, you are right that when a child sees their peers doing something they copy and try to learn, and they can learn quickly. When a person mentions gambling in front of his child, and he gambles, the child will learn about it gradually and at some point he will be attracted to gambling. Children always learn everything by watching their parents, so all persons should do everything behind the children to refrain from doing bad things and doing anything that could cause harm to children. It is by all means a guardian to be careful that his child does not learn and imitate gambling or any vice. So if you want to gamble, you must eat secretly, you should not play in front of a child. However, children can copy everything at a young age and what they can see and copy in their brains from childhood they will understand and focus on as they grow up.

Whenever I am gambling, I lock myself up in my room and wouldn't want my kids to come around me at that moment, because I know that they are smart and can easily understand what I am doing. Actually, they are still very young but I still keep my gambling activities secret.

However, children can learn to know about gambling through ads on TV and on the internet and that is why it is good to monitor what they are doing with their devices and also educate them on the consequences of gambling, so that it can be a guide for them as they are growing not to involve in gambling to the extend of becoming an addict.