Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?

[Poker Player]

Has anyone noticed the only response that Ratimov made on this thread was also deleted?

Has anyone noticed that he started removing content from his many LIST/Collection threads? This time it does not delete them or anything like that, but only removes the content. Looks like another revenge against the forum bastards.  

few examples
[HUGE LIST] Useful Crypto Links !!!
No-KYC Exchange Encyclopedia ^{Still exist on his local board}
[BIG LIST] DeFi Projects & Tokens

I hesitate whether to report those threads because there is no point in keeping them without the OP. If the moderation understands that they are useful the OPs could be restored and the threads locked.

What is clear to me is that having a big ego does not help in general in life and in the forum we have seen other cases that usually do not end well. Some quite intelligent people with big ego we could cite nullius for example although there are several more similar cases that did not end well.

I'm not sure how the campaign managers will look at this behaviour, I believe that the opening of a large number of "useful" topics is one of the reasons why he is accepted in higher-quality ^paid campaigns.

Well, if it's just a few it's not the same as the tantrum being such that it leads to a mass deletion of OPs.

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[LoyceV]

If the moderation understands that they are useful the OPs could be restored

Some forums would indeed do that, but I don't think that's going to happen here:

he can't delete the topics, so he's editing them to be "blank". This is common and allowed.

Someone could quote an old archived version, and post it into a new post

[Zuzma]

3. Don't you think that saying that Russian-speaking moderators cover for Ratimov without any evidence is slander?

"You're just thinking wishfully"

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[madnessteat]

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Well, again you can’t answer my questions. This perfectly demonstrates that you have no evidence for your words. You only have old grievances against Ratimov. By the way, if I'm not mistaken, you made peace with him))))

[GazetaBitcoin]

Someone could quote an old archived version, and post it into a new post

Someone could repost all Ratimov's topic but start them all with this introduction: "In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme [...]".

How would that be?

Has anyone noticed that he started removing content from his many LIST/Collection threads? This time it does not delete them or anything like that, but only removes the content. Looks like another revenge against the forum bastards.  

I noticed that he keeps deleting posts and I also made a mention earlier:

it seems that he did not delete only the 78 topics found by LV, but many other posts, in his futile attempt to hide his plagiarism.

For instance, this post:

Quoting for historical reference and take a look at messages at numbers 33, 101, 108, 115.

Here, really original content, maybe 10%, the rest is all a copy-paste of finished materials or partial use of someone else's material.

quoted by me in OP and quoted also years ago by airfinex in the topic where he exposed Ratimov's plagiarism -- is now gone.

The post was there before but he deleted it too, thus those not knowing about ninjastic.space will never see this statement where he admitted clearly that he plagiarizes 90% of what he wrote. Most likely, he deleted other incriminatory posts as well.

In fact, he deleted all his posts from the topic started by airfinex.

For those not aware, the topic is full of examples of plagiarism made by Ratimov and also of examples given by wooI_Ioow, exposing how Ratimov was breaking rule 27 (Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed) by copy-pasting articles and translating them with Google Translate in Russian board ([1], [2], [3], [4]).

I am almost sure he deleted all his posts starting with "In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme [...]".

I also want to salute philipma1957's decision to distrust Ratimov. Surprisingly, zasad@ did the same. Synchronice took a similar decision.

Day after day more and more people open their eyes about this imposter and day after day, those which were afraid of him now react towards the years of abuses Ratimov made.

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Zuzma, have you considered presenting this topic in Russian local board?

[klarki]

I have taken note of all the information provided.

[Learn Bitcoin]

Has anyone noticed that he started removing content from his many LIST/Collection threads? This time it does not delete them or anything like that, but only removes the content. Looks like another revenge against the forum bastards.  

few examples
[HUGE LIST] Useful Crypto Links !!!
No-KYC Exchange Encyclopedia ^{Still exist on his local board}
[BIG LIST] DeFi Projects & Tokens

It seems he is digging it further. I am curious if he is doing these odd things, knowing that it will make him worse in front of the community; it shows he did nothing for the benefit of the community. He did all these things to lure merits he already earned, and those threads have no purpose now. I do not see any reason for removing them except what I have said.

He is acting like, okay, you guys ruined my reputation? I won't let you guys benefit from my articles. Newbies did nothing against him. Newbies do not even dare to speak against him. Or he could be frustrated with them because he helped many of them but not a single newbie speaks for him, so he is deleting newbie guides.

[lovesmayfamilis]

He is acting like, okay, you guys ruined my reputation? I won't let you guys benefit from my articles. Newbies did nothing against him. Newbies do not even dare to speak against him. Or he could be frustrated with them because he helped many of them but not a single newbie speaks for him, so he is deleting newbie guides.

Guess where newbies got the habit of discovering new topics everywhere? This habit continues to this day, only creating an understanding that all newcomers are not who they say they are. The reason is that the user who is deleting topics today also noted newbies and gave them the first merits. There was information somewhere that Ratimov competed with someone to help newcomers and was the first. This is not bad in theory, but there have been cases when posts with plagiarism were awarded merit.
That is why today you can write about beginners something absolutely true.

[LoyceV]

This topic will not be one about Ratimov's plagiarism, although this subject will be touched

This is too ironic to not touch this subject: here, Ratimov is complaining about incorrect quotes of his "original data":

If I deleted this topic, this does not mean that anyone can now freely copy it and pass it off as their own work. You didn’t even ask me about running my own topic with my original data instead of me, you thought that you could freely dispose of this format and pass it off as your own, hiding behind some fucking link.

If I had done this and opened a similar topic, then the assholes would have been squealing on the forum, saying what a copy-pastor and thief Ratimov is, but when others do this, then there is nothing wrong with it, if he wanted to, he did it.

You present this information as if you are the author of this design and you collected this information and presented it in this way. Although in fact you didn’t do anything here, you just copied it without asking.

Here you are all playing inspectors and teaching people how to correctly format someone else’s text, although you yourself still need to be taught. If you took someone else’s finished material without permission, then it must be formatted like this:

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Or another option, if you wrote in the topic that all the previously collected material belongs to Ratimov, as well as the design style and presentation form, and you just decided to revive the deleted topic and continued to lead it, then I would pass by and not say anything as a reproach to you.

To verify Ratimov's plagiarism claim, I checked the unedited post, and unlike someone who would post a small link at the end of his long copied topic, NotATether started his topic by giving credit.

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This is too ironic to not touch this subject: here, Ratimov is complaining about incorrect quotes of his "original data":

It's even more ironic that he published his original post with all the data, I guess he couldn't bear for someone else to take credit for publishing some kind of link collection.

I have a proposal for NotATether. As I already have a certain collection of these and similar services prepared for one website, I can start a new thread with a structure and design not related to Ratimov's previous work. I need two or three days to put it together and check its relevance, and in a longer period I will deal with such topics, so there should not be any complications regarding the update.

[suchmoon]

To verify Ratimov's plagiarism claim, I checked the unedited post, and unlike someone who would post a small link at the end of his long copied topic, NotATether started his topic by giving credit.

According to Ratimov's own "if it doesn't break the rules then it's fine even if it's unethical" approach, it'd be perfectly fine to not have a reference at all. Since the original thread doesn't exist, NotATether probably wouldn't get banned for plagiarism. Except sane users like NotATether aren't hell bent on bending the rules.

I know I shouldn't be surprised at the depths of petulance Ratimov can sink to... but I'm still surprised. I mean, he deleted the thread, why does he care if someone doesn't praise his "design" or whatever he's complaining about there.

[holydarkness]

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To verify Ratimov's plagiarism claim, I checked the unedited post, and unlike someone who would post a small link at the end of his long copied topic, NotATether started his topic by giving credit.

Not sure where he got that idea, the credit given by NotATether was more than sufficient and clear to anyone reading the thread, or... why he choose to take that thread into his own hand and make a fuss about it, where some other --one might argue-- more demanding topics are in danger needs of his attention.

[GazetaBitcoin]

This is too ironic to not touch this subject: here, Ratimov is complaining about incorrect quotes of his "original data":

It's even more ironic that he published his original post with all the data, I guess he couldn't bear for someone else to take credit for publishing some kind of link collection.

I almost spilled my coffee because of laugh while reading this. I believe Ratimov saw this post and got scared:

Someone could quote an old archived version, and post it into a new post

Someone could repost all Ratimov's topic but start them all with this introduction: "In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme [...]".

How would that be?

I also made a post inside NotATether's thread (and I really hope that he'll use my suggestion)

According to Ratimov's own "if it doesn't break the rules then it's fine even if it's unethical" approach, it'd be perfectly fine to not have a reference at all.

We can expect anything from this Ratimov. Including to write again all his topics, for earning some more thousands of merits.

I, for one, am still waiting for someone to reinstate one of his topics and start it with "In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme [...]".

[suchmoon]

I also made a post inside NotATether's thread (and I really hope that he'll use my suggestion)

Is that really necessary? That thread is about cards, not about Ratimov. This one here though... yeah here we can "touch upon" the hypocrisy and other happenings of the former DT1 member.

[NotATether]

Replying here to keep the other topic clean.

For the original (now deleted) topic created by Ratimov, see this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280997.0. This is a continuation of it based on his design.

Instead of that line you should have used this one: "In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme [...]".

Why? I shouldn't have to treat Bitcointalk like a court system where wording is important.

Quite frankly, I am patently uninterested in the Ratimov plagiarism claims, but here this is like burning the Library of Alexandria.

I have a proposal for NotATether. As I already have a certain collection of these and similar services prepared for one website, I can start a new thread with a structure and design not related to Ratimov's previous work. I need two or three days to put it together and check its relevance, and in a longer period I will deal with such topics, so there should not be any complications regarding the update.

Then what would be the difference between that and just chucking it on my website on the Wordpress page builder?

There is only so much variation you can make from a header, image, and list arranged like so. You cannot even copyright page design anyway, that's why plagiarism only applies to content. [Also it's worth nothing that the images are from 3rd party sites and I even had to re-upload them since he apparently deleted them too]

The way I see things is, this is a topic with a high Google Search result. People looking for cards shouldn't have to be inconvenienced from deleted information because of situations like this.

So as you can see, I was quite upset when he deleted that topic, and I'm pretty sure there are other erased threads of his of similar importance to others. I however will not be touching on those as they are not particularly interesting to me, although anyone with Ninjastic & an online HTML to BBcode tool can easily restore it (with attribution, to avoid poking the bees' nest).

Edit: Although now that I think about it, the non-KYC thing is also sufficiently important, but that's going to go in the Wiki after suitable modification.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Instead of that line you should have used this one: "In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme [...]".

Why? I shouldn't have to treat Bitcointalk like a court system where wording is important.

I was being sarcastic In case you are not aware (or you forgot), that was Ratimov's infamous introduction to his plagiarized topics. He presented them using those words, like it was his material while, in fact, he was copy-pasting tons of essays written by different authors.

[alani123]

What I really don't understand is why would Ratimov go ahead and try to delete an quality post that he made. I haven't seen anyone doubting that his debit card list thread was useful and also original. It really doesn't help his case to go ahead and say that he was pissed when someone went ahead and "forked" his now erased thread to bring out the information and keep updating.

The accusation of merit farming holds more ground if he stands against people releasing information freely just because he had formatted a thread about a certain topic earlier than others...

[suchmoon]

What I really don't understand is why would Ratimov go ahead and try to delete an quality post that he made. I haven't seen anyone doubting that his debit card list thread was useful and also original. It really doesn't help his case to go ahead and say that he was pissed when someone went ahead and "forked" his now erased thread to bring out the information and keep updating.

The accusation of merit farming holds more ground if he stands against people releasing information freely just because he had formatted a thread about a certain topic earlier than others...

I wouldn't look for too much reason here. Most likely it's just spitefulness and over-inflated ego. In NotATether's thread he said something along the lines "you all did [something or other] against me", not sure who "all" is - the whole forum? So he holds a big grudge against everyone. You all wronged me so I'll remove all my threads, that'll teach you. Didn't think it through however.

I don't think it's about merit farming... I mean if he created a thread and got merit for it, he earned it, nothing wrong there.

[LoyceV]

I don't think it's about merit farming... I mean if he created a thread and got merit for it, he earned it, nothing wrong there.

I consider Merit to be for "a post worth reading", so if the post is gone, the Merit lost it's purpose.

I'm tempted to create a "users with most Merit earned on deleted posts" list. It only requires scraping 130513 posts. It may be a good list to find Merit traders too.

[Learn Bitcoin]

This is too ironic to not touch this subject: here, Ratimov is complaining about incorrect quotes of his "original data":

He wants to dig it further. Now he wants to create more drama with users who use his deleted threads, was that the main reason for erasing those threads? I saw how he reacted to NotATether while NotATether was completely calm. His rudeness is the only reason why he is here today. His current DT1 Strength is -5 but I feel like he wants to make it -10 or more.

I do not see any problem because NotATether posted that by writing that it's a deleted thread of Ratimov. However, according to Ratimov, he cannot do that by hiding behind a link. LOL.