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November 02, 2023, 10:43:17 PM
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Many people on social media really love to meddle even if they don't contribute anything. They just make noise to get attention, surpassing even the punter, just feeling entitled. A person who has won has no obligation to share their winnings with others, no matter how big it is. Giving a gift of that value should be seen as a generous and voluntary act, not an expectation. The critic demanding a higher amount is out of line. The winner should not feel guilty for what he did because it's his decision and his money, and he should enjoy it without pressure.

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November 02, 2023, 11:05:51 PM
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Like from the post here, we never knew the relationship and what transpired  between the both people. Judging from the recent view we can say it's very ill of him to act in this manner and even display it publicly. I think the other guy was even warm hearted to give him such amount of money and him still demanding more is a No and corny behavior, he should definitely work on his self-discipline
Yeah, I also thought of that,  and at some point, I want to believe that there is a cordial relationship between them,  the one that won the jackpot and the guy that called him out on x,  the thing is that,  whatever we are doing,  we must have to bear in mind that privacy is key to everything and at every point in time,  we have to make security and privacy our key focus in this industry.

The whole situation is all about entitlement and what have you,  but all triggered by the knowledge of the winning,  so if the guy had played in online casinos,  he wouldn't have been called out in this manner.
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November 02, 2023, 11:08:16 PM
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Entitlement poisons an individual mind and makes the individual think the goodwill and kindness extended to him is deserving. That has stopped a lot of people from getting helped in any way.
In this case you mentioned, the winner of the bet was kind enough to share his winnings. Very people are kind hearted but it’s entitlement like these make people think of helping people out. If I was the guy who won, after having offered a particular sum and get turned down, I would never give you any money again. If you’re not appreciative, thinking you deserve more, you’ll end up losing a great deal of help from man that may have come your way.

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November 03, 2023, 12:51:57 AM
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I'm with you on this. There's no rule whatsoever that requires you to share your gambling winnings with anybody. People should stop expecting too much from the winnings of other people. It's perfectly all right to share whatever you have, but it should be with full willingness and generosity. If you are sharing because you are somehow forced by other people to do it, you better not share. Who are these people anyway? Why should they take a part of what you won?
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November 03, 2023, 04:26:59 AM
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As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.


Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.



On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
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The gambler didn't have to give anyone a penny, but he decided he would share a little of his win. If I am having a decent session and the site i'm playing on has a rain function, I like to send a little out to chat to try and give myself some good karma and keep the winning alive. The amount that I or any other gambler decides to share is up to us though, noone else has a right or claim to anything.

Lately I have been tipping less as there are so many beggars in a chat, it's almost like a full time job for them to sit there and beg all day.

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November 03, 2023, 04:55:43 AM
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why did he even gave in the first place when that guy didn't do somehing for him.
those guys doesn't feel shame after earning something they didn't work for. but you could only view it like that ungrateful dude must have been expecting substantial amount after seeing the guy made profitted so much. why he is expecting i'm sure i dont know. the dealers in the casino doesn't even expect from high rollers who wins.  

if i were the guy who gave, i would just say that N100 is what you deserve. but i'm guessing they know each other well and so the other one look down the other.









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November 03, 2023, 04:58:43 AM
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It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

Those who think that way must be out of their minds. I saw this post flying around social media, but I didn't pay much attention to it. One thing that people really need to be aware of or think about is, before this person was lucky enough to win this money using little money to place the bet, have they sat down and checked the person's betting record, i.e., his overall betting history, which includes all his winnings and losses with the total money that he has spent on gambling all through his life?
 
If they believe the person who won such an amount from gambling should share it 60/40, then they should be ready to give back to the person who has been losing in gambling all their life at least 40% of everything that they have lost. People are just being so biassed towards a winner in gambling; they got blindfolded based on the result of one winning, not thinking about what the person has gone through. In my opinion, giving out after a win is by choice, and it's not a mandatory thing after all. Assuming the game did not play, no one will help you cry or feel the pains of your loss.

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November 03, 2023, 05:00:30 AM
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The question I have to ask the punter is that, when they gambler losses does he send back the money used for wagering? If the punter is so good he doesn't need to be in another's man's business. If the punter is so good, he would have also played the gain an still won that huge amount of money too. The punter is just a greedy fellow. If I were him, I would be more happy that I am horning my craft well, I will be all over social media sharing this goodsnews and marketing myself. I will go on to create a telegram channel, where you have to pay to get access to the information -betting tips I share there and some be interested in what some person won and didn't give to me. That is absolutely insane.

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November 03, 2023, 05:13:34 AM
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There is no obligation for a gambler who wins a lot of money to share it with others. It is based on his own conscience. If he wants to share or let's say donate, that's also up to him.

People should also know they should not ask the winner for a small share, especially if they don't know the winner well. But whatever it is, it should not be a burden on the winner that he "Has" to share with others. Don't think too much about it because it's not a big deal.

Do what you want if you are the winner. And if sharing with other people makes you feel comfortable, do it. But if not, don't tell other people about your winnings and keep it to yourself.

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November 03, 2023, 05:32:10 AM
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first congratulations to whom who win this 16k usd , that seems to be a huge winning and he must be very lucky.
though for big time gambler this is a small win but in countries like ours? this is truly huge enough to be thankful.

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who cares for this statement? how I wish that he can do better when he is the one who have that win , and besides that is 7 percent of the total win (correct me if im wrong) so how low it is? can the punter gain that for himself? lucky for him that the winner gave Him tip when the truth is there is no obligation and that is just a TIP that coming from own decision.

wondering why people are not growing because of this kind of attitude .









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November 03, 2023, 05:47:26 AM
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@CleanThing_ must give all of is money to poor people especially people who live in Africa where they lack of clean water and healthy foods, why he can life comfortable when there are many poor people out there?

The point of donation is same like gambling "use amount that you can afford to lose" if the gambler only can afford to lose 1%, there's nothing wrong with that.

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November 03, 2023, 06:01:52 AM
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It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!
These people should start gambling so that they will know how much we lose first before they say this kind of shit to us.
It's not like we gambled for free, it's our money that is on the line and it is also our analysis that made it win and not theirs. I call these people beggars. And I'd rather give it to gamblers who will tip me if ever there comes a time that I am broke than those who will not give me anything in return but just criticism about the money I gave them.
Whatever the amount a gambler gives, appreciate it. At least he is not selfish to share his profits. Those who ask for more are the plagues who don't even realize that it's not their money that was put on the line.

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
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A gambler will choose if he wants to give or not and in any format and amount that he wants. Some do giveaways thru trivias while others will just rain it down to other gamblers. I like it more when they do trivia, make them work for it. Not like crocodiles with open mouths waiting for their prey.
But like I said, it's a gambler's choice on how he wants to give out the money he won. Some could just stay silent and its totally fine.

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November 03, 2023, 06:02:50 AM
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Yes, you see this a lot in the online chat channels, where people quickly congratulate people on their large wins and then the passive begging starts... where these people demand some kind of reward from the winners, because they think the world owe them something.  Roll Eyes

People should just accept that not everyone can win big amounts at casinos and when someone wins.. they are not under any obligation to share those winnings. Imagine that you bet a combined total of say $100 000 in a period of a month and then suddenly you win $80 000.... do you think that person is in a profit? So, why should he or she share that win with other people?

Your JACKPOT is yours.... and you decide what you want to do with that... tipping or sharing is your own decision.  Angry

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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money.
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IMO, this kind of behavior has unfortunately become quite common. However, the act of creating posts to "degrade" the winner based on the amount of money shared is really strange. A tip of $100+ is already a generous amount, especially when it's given to individuals who didn't even contribute to the gambling session.

Tipping should always be your choice and not something you're pushed to do. It's perfectly fine not to tip, and it's equally okay to provide any amount as a tip. Don't let these "entitled" individuals pressure you into doing something you don't want to do or more than what you are willing to do.

It's surprising that some people even publicize such actions. Disgusting, isn't it?

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November 03, 2023, 06:34:55 AM
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N15.6m might be a lot of money and even N100k is a whole lot of money as well to have even chose to gift it out from his goodwill. I think the punter out to have been more than happy he or she received such amount.

I don’t know how these guys seem to forget all the manly loses without any form of consolation these gamblers have gone through and had to handle that alone. No one saw that, no one kept tabs on that and no one knows what situation they might have been going through while keeping fate with the process.

He might have won N15.6m but might have lost close to half the amount or so in gambling too. He has paid his dues, let him reap from his many years of sowing. If the punter wasn’t cool with the no deal gift he got, why don’t he return it and be okay with having nothing of it. People could be so ungrateful!

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November 03, 2023, 06:40:02 AM
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15.6M can't be $16000 as per the current exchange rate, that's around $13600, do your math very well, the exchange rate is now 1154 per dollar, and it keeps growing up and down at times.

I have seen people pointing gun on a gambler to settle them, something they aren't a part of so I am not surprised, this will serve as a lesson to the gambler that online gambling is way better than visiting any gambling location.

I saw this news two days ago and I was like, why the heck did this man let the news spread this information, in a country that's less secured? Inside of me I was like I can never be in such position, not knowing that something like this will even happen.

This days if people know your worth you are in trouble, they will feel entitled to your money, as if you both sweat for it, stop gambling in a casino, grab your smartphone and gamble online, if you win no one will threaten you or feel entitled to your money, also no one will know that you are into gambling.

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November 03, 2023, 06:56:02 AM
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There is nothing much to this. It is a usual practice in offline gambling house that when a gambler wins some money, he usually give out some money to those around when he came to cash it out or send some money to people/friends who are aware of the winning but are not around. Sometimes he keeps giving that little money or reserving something for special and close friends who are not around then. So, it is a normal and usual practice and a gambler who wins reasonable money and didn't do that is regarded as stingy, wicked or bad because he most have also partake in someone else's winning. That money is usually regarded as money for drink, therefore it is not abnormal.

However, the amount to give is totally at the discretion of the gambler who won the money and it is left to the punters to evaluate what was given in discussions around them (just like this is happening now that people are evaluating it) because it is not by force abinitio.

What is also given depends on the numbers of people there and the kind of people there whether they are close pals or strangers because people have a way to give to people they know and have personal relationship with and how they give to strangers, so it all depends.

For the amount given on this matter which is 100k from 15million, for me I don't think it is too small. Moreover, that gambler will have other persons he will gift to before having some plans on the money. It is all to the discretion of the giver anyway.

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November 03, 2023, 08:25:09 AM
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It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!
This is indeed nonsense, even 75:25 is still nonsense because there is no obligation for anyone who succeeds in winning a lot of money from gambling to share it with anyone and if there are gamblers who do it, it is only a personal initiative and cannot be used as a standard rule that all gamblers must do the same thing, People who criticize the gambler only feel jealous and show it through criticism of what the gambler does, for whatever reason no one has the right to the gambler's winnings and how he shares and spends it is the gambler's business, not anyone else's.

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November 03, 2023, 08:33:02 AM
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As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.

As you've said, in appreciation for doing nothing, he wishes to give him the money with reasons best known to him, afterall no one forces him against his wish, if we are to also consider the amount involved, it's nothing much that should be a concern, many people have won gambling and refused to give anyone anything, while some also won and spent over half of the money together with others in celebration and fun, we have our decision to make, it's our money and whatever thing we do should be intentional because there will always be a repercussions ahead.

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November 03, 2023, 08:37:59 AM
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It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!
This is indeed nonsense, even 75:25 is still nonsense because there is no obligation for anyone who succeeds in winning a lot of money from gambling to share it with anyone and if there are gamblers who do it, it is only a personal initiative and cannot be used as a standard rule that all gamblers must do the same thing, People who criticize the gambler only feel jealous and show it through criticism of what the gambler does, for whatever reason no one has the right to the gambler's winnings and how he shares and spends it is the gambler's business, not anyone else's.
The popular demand by most people in gambling houses from anyone who gets massive winning is very disgusting to me because when people comes to the gambling houses and losses their money, they don't get sympathetic refunds from anyone.
I happen to witness an event where a gambler won a huge amount of money in a gambling house and because of the too much request from people around there to share the money he got, he decided not to give anyone a dime from his winning despite all the negative names they were calling him. People can feel entitled to a one's winning but the ability to not give any entitled person anything from the winning I think is a good way to discipline them on that behavior.

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