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November 03, 2023, 09:14:08 PM
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I am also one of the person that this winner gave very little money to the guy.I would have given much more and I am not just bullshiting here,I am saying the truth as if I win a million dollar and the idea is given to me by someone else and this win is in great part thanks to him,I would give him as a bare minimum 50.000-100.000 dollars which is 5-10% which is what should be the ideal amount to be given to such persons.I know any amount is an appreciation but very little amounts are no appreciation at all in my idea.

5 to 10% is the ideal amount? who the hell said that?
 I think this is about personal preference  of a person tipping others who gave him the hints and tips about the bet he won.  I would also do the same in gratitude to that person's information that lead me to a huge win.  But if the person has done nothing and I just wanted to tip him out of generosity, I think a hundred dollar out of million dollar won is more than enough.

Winnings belongs to me and also I have to pay taxes to a government which is actually for the development of the country so legally I am paying what I am required then why I need to take the social pressure which is really none of anyone's business and as I said why you are waiting for win 1 Millions to donate 5-10%, why not pay from your pocket just now itself!

No one is forcing anyone to give tips to other people. As stated, this is a personal matter and your decision is your decision and other people is theirs.  So it is a person's right to do whatever he wanted to his winnings and yes, other people should have no say how we use our winnings.
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November 03, 2023, 09:15:42 PM
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Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.

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November 03, 2023, 09:39:41 PM
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Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.

I don’t people seriously on social media platforms because they are just there to catch cruise. The same X (twitter) user who is calling out the winner of the bet for giving N100k to someone who didn’t really contribute to the game won might even do worse if he was to be the winner.

Anyone who wins an amount from gambling is not obligated to share his winnings with anyone in any ratio, he owns the money so he should decide who he give money to and any amount he wishes to give out. Giving out money would still depend on his relationship with the person, if it is his close friend then it is okay to give him more if he wishes but it still depends on the winner. Don’t forget we all have problems and they are never ending.

On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet
There is no ratio or percentage a winner should share his money with others just because they know about the game, anyone thinks he did the wrong thing should go ahead and win his own game and not share with anyone. It depends on the person who win, we all have different hearts and habits and our charity habits varies so we shouldn’t criticize others decisions they did their best even though we think their best is not enough but at least we should appreciate them.

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November 03, 2023, 10:10:37 PM
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Yeah, absolutely! Whether or not you wanna share your gambling winnings is totally up to you.  There ain't no official rule saying you gotta spread the wealth or nothing.  Some folks hit it big and get all excited to treat their buddies, or donate some of it to charity.  That's cool of them and  other people, if they score a fat wad of cash at the tables wanna keep it for themselves, you know? But, I don't blame em! It's their money, they can do whatever they want with it.  The main thing is don't give anybody a hard time over what they decide.  No reason to start drama about who gets a cut of someone else's jackpot or whatever.  Thats just how it goes when you're running with the high rollers.

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November 03, 2023, 10:33:18 PM
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It's true you are at liberty to spend your gambling profit or proceeds at will especially when it comes to showing appreciation, every Sense of entitlement from anyone should be ignored because it was a joint effort of funds so the winner is at liberty to do what they wish.

I think it's because there may have been causes where the winner have benefited from the wins of others so when it happens that he won such too was expected of him aswell but then the idea of what they consider an ideal percentage is out of play because they winner definitely have things he would want to do with such wins and so he wouldn't spend his profit satisfying some silly request from some entitled minded people, I only take a different stand if such a person contributed to the win probably helping with some picks or part of the stake amount then it will be fair to give him a good percentage of the proceed from the bet other wise he shouldn't be entitled.

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November 03, 2023, 10:46:24 PM
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Unfortunately, most people have no clue of what is a RTP of a gambling game, and they don't realize that the guy had maybe lost way more that those winnings in his life, and that it didn't won this prize because of an astonishing luck but because of his statistics. He has maybe bet a rather small stake this time, but he maybe bet it thousands times during years.

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November 04, 2023, 05:59:13 PM
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The first question that I will ask the person who won this money is: how do people get to know about the amount that was won in the first place? Was it that the excitement could not let him keep the winning amount secret from himself, or was it the bet shop where he won the money that the cashier leaked the winning amount?
 
The amount that the guy gave to the next person does not really matter; what matters is that it was given out of his own will and generosity. No one helped him win that money, so they should appreciate the little that he has given back to society and stop criticising him, because if they were even the ones who won that money, who knows if they can even give out any single amount to their friends? The guy should not listen to them and focus only on what he should do with the money next; that's what matters most.

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November 04, 2023, 06:10:53 PM
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This is the kind of reaction you can expect from envious individuals. People don't have to say anything about someone else's winnings. It's not their winnings, it's not their money, it's not their role to decide anything. Rather, they should take care their own lives and make decisions based on what is in front of them. Usually these people who say how others should act are the most unable ones to act on their own lives when a situation is presented to them to be solved.

My suggestion to the winner and gamblers in general is to just ignore this kind of comment. Do as you want, share what you think you should donate and never expect to be praised by others for your actions.

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November 20, 2023, 07:35:25 PM
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The first question that I will ask the person who won this money is: how do people get to know about the amount that was won in the first place? Was it that the excitement could not let him keep the winning amount secret from himself, or was it the bet shop where he won the money that the cashier leaked the winning amount?
If you have been gambling a long serving gambler you will have known by now that bet companies/bet shops don't hide huge amount of winnings won by a gambler in their site/betshop they make it a public affair because the publicity attracts new customers (gamblers) when they hear/read about the amount won. It's a marketing strategy.
 
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The amount that the guy gave to the next person does not really matter; what matters is that it was given out of his own will and generosity. No one helped him win that money, so they should appreciate the little that he has given back to society and stop criticising him, because if they were even the ones who won that money, who knows if they can even give out any single amount to their friends? The guy should not listen to them and focus only on what he should do with the money next; that's what matters most.
Selfish persons pretends to act to sound good when they are the one in the receiving end, by their unappreciative response  it's easy to detect them. I buy your idea, the young just have to focus on how to invest his money and live his life as beautiful as it should be.
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November 20, 2023, 07:59:54 PM
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Fuck this bro, if in any case I am in the position of the winner and I gave out the N100k to people for them to share and a mother fucker can out and say something like this on the image, then I think I have to collect my money back because I don't see no reason why someone should not appropriate something that he or she didn't worked for.
However, I really wont care at that particular point in time because I will be overwhelmed if in any case I win such amount of money in bet, even if  the winning is not up to this same amount but a massive win I will be happy to give.
However, there are a lot of gamblers that can not keep their winning secret, mostly those that haven't won such amount of money before or haven't posed such amount of money before, they can not keep it as a secret for others to know.

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November 20, 2023, 08:04:57 PM
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Is it not funny that the punter didn't play his own game? This is a fake punter because if he was the real deal, he would not even need any financial appreciation from his followers. His satisfaction would come from the fact that because of him, someone one won millions which may have been the first for the person and automatically became a millionaire. The punter would have even found satisfaction in the fact that he was able to do for the average citizen what their government has not been able to achieve which is to change the economic status of the individual and not to be bothered a mere token. The punter needs to work on himself and his brand.

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November 20, 2023, 08:10:06 PM
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As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.
Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.

On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
It is really just that bullshit that you would really be that making yourself that giving with some amounts into those people around just because they are shouting that they would really be getting one but its true that
its not really something mandatory yet you do have the full rights whether you should give or not, if ever you do give out some amount then its just it, never ever consider on giving out something big
since its your money had been risked out on the first place to place up that bet and not theirs. They dont really have the rights on asking up money just because they do feel that they are really that
entitle to get some share with that win of yours. Better to ignore those people and would rather be focusing on the money that you have won. People doesnt have the rights on asking something
specially on the money that you had won. Its all yours and there's no other people have the rights on getting up the share. Basing up on the situation that it is really just that still
good that he do tend to share up at least, even though its small but still not a bad thing to consider rather than on having nothing at all.

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November 20, 2023, 11:09:09 PM
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Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.

Before you consider that, first look into the conditions attached to the gambling first, maybe there's any collaboration between the two of them while playing the bet before everything set in the player, to me, if someone like that exists around me, i will count such for nuisance before he can't firce me against my wish no matter the level of how he has complained about me on his efforts on my bet, afteral am taking the risk to use my money and never forced him to support, if i wish to give him something then i will do that willingly without having him complain, but if he keeps murmuring around then that may be the reason i may not give anything.

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That's just straight up bitter jealousy in my book, I refuse to believe that there's a person that really thinks like that in real life because that's the most stupid thing to say, hell most of the entitled individuals are pretty stupid as if they deserve being able to receive that kind of stuff in the first place, whenever I see that kind of stuff to someone I know, I instantly lose respect for them because they don't have any gratitude in their body even their parents, I lose respect because no way that's not something learned outside the home. People should stop the culture of giving back in my opinion so people like this doesn't have any backbone to say stupid stuff like being given more.



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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

That's right, apart from taxes, we don't have any responsibility to give some of the rewards we get to other people, even our own family. Because it's very funny to see many people looking jealous and saying that he should share his gambling rewards with other people, like it's none of their business whether he wants to share some of his rewards with other people or not. And they shouldn't have to protest whatever decision he makes because they don't have anything to do with his game.

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November 21, 2023, 04:49:22 AM
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Any amount that is given is a sign of happiness from the winner. It is true that if one wins with such huge amounts, he is in no obligation of giving a certain amount from his winnings.

Well, it is about being ungrateful or they prefer some certain amounts that should be given to them. If that happens to me and I am a receiver and out of nowhere I will receive from the winner's money as a giveaway, I'd be happy to accept that.

And if I am a winner and I have given someone and isn't grateful, that will be the last time I will give a gift to him.

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This is the kind of reaction you can expect from envious individuals. People don't have to say anything about someone else's winnings. It's not their winnings, it's not their money, it's not their role to decide anything. Rather, they should take care their own lives and make decisions based on what is in front of them. Usually these people who say how others should act are the most unable ones to act on their own lives when a situation is presented to them to be solved.

My suggestion to the winner and gamblers in general is to just ignore this kind of comment. Do as you want, share what you think you should donate and never expect to be praised by others for your actions.
It has become normal attitude and behavior when there are people who are jealous of other people achievements and do not even hesitate to say few basic words in response to criticism that should not be said.
In fact, what the gambler does is generous attitude and he still cares about other people when he wins, even though the amount is not too big, he proves that he can still have concern for other people.
Honestly, it very rare for me to hear about incidents like this, in fact most of the people out there only care and are concerned with themselves without any thought of caring for other people.

Yes, as long as they can benefit other people and do not harm or cause trouble to other people, then doing whatever feels good is the right decision.
A gambler would prefer to use his winnings for his personal interests and in this case the appreciation given by the gambler was truly extraordinary.

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November 22, 2023, 08:38:52 PM
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Any amount that is given is a sign of happiness from the winner. It is true that if one wins with such huge amounts, he is in no obligation of giving a certain amount from his winnings.

Well, it is about being ungrateful or they prefer some certain amounts that should be given to them. If that happens to me and I am a receiver and out of nowhere I will receive from the winner's money as a giveaway, I'd be happy to accept that.

And if I am a winner and I have given someone and isn't grateful, that will be the last time I will give a gift to him.
Speaking about ungrateful, yes there are a lot of people that are so ungrateful even after cutting off your throat for them.
However it is not a must for a gambler to share his or her winnings with anyone but any gambler that do share his or her winnings with other gamblers, no matter how small the money is as long as they did not worked for it, they should have to collect it with happiness and not grogies, collecting the money with full happiness is also a sign of good conducts and how grateful you are, hoping that one day it will be your turn to win big money from gamble or any other means.

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November 22, 2023, 08:46:31 PM
Last edit: November 22, 2023, 08:57:35 PM by AmoreJaz
 #99

Any amount that is given is a sign of happiness from the winner. It is true that if one wins with such huge amounts, he is in no obligation of giving a certain amount from his winnings.

Well, it is about being ungrateful or they prefer some certain amounts that should be given to them. If that happens to me and I am a receiver and out of nowhere I will receive from the winner's money as a giveaway, I'd be happy to accept that.

And if I am a winner and I have given someone and isn't grateful, that will be the last time I will give a gift to him.
Speaking about ungrateful, yes there are a lot of people that are so ungrateful even after cutting off your throat for them.
However it is not a must for a gambler to share his or her winnings with anyone but any gambler that do share his or her winnings with other gamblers, no matter how small the money is as long as they did not worked for it, they should have to collect it with happiness and not grogies, collecting the money with full happiness is also a sign of good conducts and how grateful you are, hoping that one day it will be your turn to win big money from gamble or any other means.

i am with this sentiment as well. the winner has no obligation whatsoever to distribute his winnings to random people or just people around him. it is his winnings, so the prerogative to share relies on him. also, it is not his responsibility to give it to people. just remember, when you are losing, where are they? i bet no one cares if you are on the losing side.
so for those people who happen to learn such big winnings of the person they know of , don't expect that you will receive something for him. you can't expect that from anyone. they have their own plans to take care of.

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November 22, 2023, 08:56:48 PM
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is the guy who won that $16,000 worth of Niara the guy who avoided his friends after winning?  i wouldn't be surprised. he hid because if he shared 100N, he'd be bashed, by his friends but by giving more than $500, a lot of his acquaintances would become friends asking the same amount. and then if he gives just about $200, they will complain about giving him only $200 while the other friend receives $500. the self-entitlement is just like saying to the winner he has no right to say no.









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