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November 02, 2023, 08:29:59 PM
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As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.


Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.



On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
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November 02, 2023, 09:02:27 PM
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This is something I have also noticed and not only in the context of gambling and sportbetting, on the internet and specially in western countries, there are people who have a very strange attitude of entitlement for pretty much anything others have gotten by either saving and working hard or because of gambling as this case.
I agree with you in this matter, by the way. The winning got for each one of us and each gambler is solely of their property and no one is in place to judge them for the tips or shares that fortunate person decided to give to one person.

Perhaps, that kind of person believes all of us are supposed to be 100% given to charity, which is unreal, if someone who hit such a high multiplier then decided to even give me a 5%, I would just try to be grateful, thank them and then move on with that money.
This will not be the last time we see stories like this one, that is for sure.

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November 02, 2023, 09:07:54 PM
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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
What a shame they only got a penny it should have been the overall winnings to be given to that guy so that he won't talk. I don't think you're part of that luck in the first place that you are entitled to be given some charity. The thing with people who are ungrateful is that no matter you gave or not they still have something to say.
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November 02, 2023, 09:09:51 PM
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As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.


Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.



On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
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There is a high sense of entitlement individuals especially those of them on social media have, Imagine a situation where the winner giving somebody out of his own magnanimity a sum of 100k and at the end of the day people begin to lambast the winner, telling him that he will have given more, how much more will he had given that would have been enough. Social media is breeding people with a high level of entitlement, what if he hadn't given him a dime, what would they have done.

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November 02, 2023, 09:16:18 PM
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This is something I have also noticed and not only in the context of gambling and sportbetting, on the internet and specially in western countries, there are people who have a very strange attitude of entitlement for pretty much anything others have gotten by either saving and working hard or because of gambling as this case.
I agree with you in this matter, by the way. The winning got for each one of us and each gambler is solely of their property and no one is in place to judge them for the tips or shares that fortunate person decided to give to one person.

Perhaps, that kind of person believes all of us are supposed to be 100% given to charity, which is unreal, if someone who hit such a high multiplier than decided to even give me a 5%, I would just try to be grateful, thank them and then move on with that money.
This will not be the last time we see stories like this one, that is for sure.

If the gambler had mad the win of 1000$,probably he may do the donation of the 50-100$ maximum to the charity.So it’s like 5-10 percentage of their total earning from the gambling win.The gambling style of the western and rest of the nation was totally different.Because they had their own approach to the gambling and casino.They ready to give the 100 percentage of the winning to the charity.But this was not done by the rest of the country gambler.The main reason behind this was the western gambler doesn’t need any money.They will do the gambling only for the entertainment.And claiming the other winning money is not the good way by the gamblers friends.
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November 02, 2023, 09:26:07 PM
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Most of those news coming from this legit new outlet are fake but that not withstanding since we can still learn one or two lessons from the discussions,  because the topic is most appropriate at this point in time,  since gambling is something that comes with some form of unexpected outcome such as in form of jackpot winning like the case with the ops,  it make more sense to make sure we protect our privacy at all time,  because hard it been that the gsmbker in question just gamble online,  he won't get called out for such because no body will know about the wining unless those he be tell at some point.

This is a high risk situation for the gamblers because he already get called out on social media which will further expose him to ore extortion from those around him,  but what the contribution of the guy that is calling him. Out for sending 100k in the winnings of the 15 million.
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November 02, 2023, 09:27:01 PM
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As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.


Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.



On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
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It's like taking a loan and when it's granted, its like you are required to treat the people around. It's really a nonsense attitude.

Gambling is not an exception. A lot of winning gamblers  are actually showing their generosity by giving other gamblers a good amount which serves as their "balato". Although its not bad as long as you are doing it with goodwill, but to be honest let's just cut this attitude because we are not obliged to do this in the first place. Note that its not easy to win in gambling, and before you win, you are losing a lot first before hitting your luck. So if you analyze it carefully, you are just gaining back the money that you have lost. If you decide to give, its like you are making a charity event, you give without asking for return.
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November 02, 2023, 09:28:45 PM
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This is something I have also noticed and not only in the context of gambling and sportbetting, on the internet and specially in western countries, there are people who have a very strange attitude of entitlement for pretty much anything others have gotten by either saving and working hard or because of gambling as this case.
I agree with you in this matter, by the way. The winning got for each one of us and each gambler is solely of their property and no one is in place to judge them for the tips or shares that fortunate person decided to give to one person.

Perhaps, that kind of person believes all of us are supposed to be 100% given to charity, which is unreal, if someone who hit such a high multiplier than decided to even give me a 5%, I would just try to be grateful, thank them and then move on with that money.
This will not be the last time we see stories like this one, that is for sure.

If the gambler had mad the win of 1000$,probably he may do the donation of the 50-100$ maximum to the charity.So it’s like 5-10 percentage of their total earning from the gambling win.The gambling style of the western and rest of the nation was totally different.Because they had their own approach to the gambling and casino.They ready to give the 100 percentage of the winning to the charity.But this was not done by the rest of the country gambler.The main reason behind this was the western gambler doesn’t need any money.They will do the gambling only for the entertainment.And claiming the other winning money is not the good way by the gamblers friends.

I am not an expert, but I would are to say giving 100% of ones winnings to charity is rare besides, people on Twitter who are criticizing this fortunate gambler do not keep in their minds that this is a person who gambled 100N, and it is not like other big whales who only gamble for fun because they already are millionaires and stuff like that.
If this was Drake or any other celebrity winning 50k$ on Stake, then one could expect him to give away that completely to their followers, since he has lost a lot more than that on sportbetting alone and that amount is nothing in comparison to what he gets from his career and sponsorships.
This was a normal person whose lucky day finally came in and yet, people do not seem to understand and are not willing to out themselves in the shoes of someone who may have gambled for years with minimal success, and still expect him to give up on more and more...  Roll Eyes

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November 02, 2023, 09:38:06 PM
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This is something I have also noticed and not only in the context of gambling and sportbetting, on the internet and specially in western countries, there are people who have a very strange attitude of entitlement for pretty much anything others have gotten by either saving and working hard or because of gambling as this case.
I agree with you in this matter, by the way. The winning got for each one of us and each gambler is solely of their property and no one is in place to judge them for the tips or shares that fortunate person decided to give to one person.

Perhaps, that kind of person believes all of us are supposed to be 100% given to charity, which is unreal, if someone who hit such a high multiplier than decided to even give me a 5%, I would just try to be grateful, thank them and then move on with that money.
This will not be the last time we see stories like this one, that is for sure.

If the gambler had mad the win of 1000$,probably he may do the donation of the 50-100$ maximum to the charity.So it’s like 5-10 percentage of their total earning from the gambling win.The gambling style of the western and rest of the nation was totally different.Because they had their own approach to the gambling and casino.They ready to give the 100 percentage of the winning to the charity.But this was not done by the rest of the country gambler.The main reason behind this was the western gambler doesn’t need any money.They will do the gambling only for the entertainment.And claiming the other winning money is not the good way by the gamblers friends.

I am not an expert, but I would are to say giving 100% of ones winnings to charity is rare besides, people on Twitter who are criticizing his fortunate gambler do not keep in their minds that this is a person who gambled 100N, and it is not like other big whales who only gamble for fun because they already are millionaires and stuff like that.
If this was Drake or any other celebrity winning 50k$ on Stake, then one could expect him to give away that completely to their followers, since he has lost a lot more than that on sportbetting alone and that amount is nothing in comparison to what he gets from his career and sponsorships.
This was a normal person whose lucky day finally came in and yet, people do not seem to understand and are not willing to out themselves in the shoes of someone who may have gambled for years with minimal success, and still expect him to give up on more and more...  Roll Eyes
Dont know if its really that necessary on making those charitable acts or sharing up if ever you do win big? Its someones money and if he do able to win up then its their full rights on what they should gonna do with it.
Neither he would really be having plans on sharing it up or would really be that basically be keeping for himself considering that he's still that break even after all the years that hed been doing gambling.
Its not really that shocking that people around dwould really be always have something to say on which its never been that something new anymore. People do really love to judge,
people do really love to make out some sayings, people do really love to make some issues, people do really love on assuming things which they dont really even know on whats their situation behind.
In overall, its better to ignore about this stuff all the way.

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November 02, 2023, 09:38:18 PM
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As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.

Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.

On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Jealousy between different people is a story as old as humanity itself and is never going to change. There is even good recommendation that if by some miracle you were to win a huge amount on something like the lottery, that you do not share that even with family, as it can heavily affect your relationship due to the sense of entitlement that you talk about. The best thing you can do as a casual observer of it is to discourage it and then simply ignore the kind of people who would beg for money. Also, you must not forget that writers love to generate controversy when writing articles like this because it acts as clickbait and draws in a lot more viewers, so they can even imagine such angles out of thin air.

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November 02, 2023, 09:40:26 PM
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Most of those news coming from this legit new outlet are fake but that not withstanding since we can still learn one or two lessons from the discussions,  because the topic is most appropriate at this point in time,  since gambling is something that comes with some form of unexpected outcome such as in form of jackpot winning like the case with the ops,  it make more sense to make sure we protect our privacy at all time,  because hard it been that the gsmbker in question just gamble online,  he won't get called out for such because no body will know about the wining unless those he be tell at some point.

This is a high risk situation for the gamblers because he already get called out on social media which will further expose him to ore extortion from those around him,  but what the contribution of the guy that is calling him. Out for sending 100k in the winnings of the 15 million.
Entitlement begats excessive expectations and excessive expectations when not met brings absolute envy which is likely to make the entitled person to want to anything within his reach to bring down the concerned person.
When a gambler gets massive winning, there are a lot of people who do think that it's their right to receive a certain amount of money from the winning and when their expectation aren't met, they become too bittered which absolutely evil. For the gambler to stake his gamble with his own money, it's his right to give or not give to anyone he wants to give regardless of how huge his winning is. So calling someone who gave you free 100k because he win 15 million is bad and should be condemned.

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November 02, 2023, 09:44:22 PM
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People can start feeling entitled when you give them the benefit of some kind of relationship with you, but it is very wrong. Feeling entitled to someone else money is immature. The person we are discussing even did well to appreciative in currency, some people will only tell you "thank you", and they expect you should be okay with that, but that is also not good. Some of the people who feel the most entitled and are quick to share money in their head when it is not theirs are people who will be slow to share and give out money when it is their turn. Dissociate yourself from anyone who you notice has the entitlement mentality.

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November 02, 2023, 09:49:18 PM
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Most of those news coming from this legit new outlet are fake but that not withstanding since we can still learn one or two lessons from the discussions,  because the topic is most appropriate at this point in time,  since gambling is something that comes with some form of unexpected outcome such as in form of jackpot winning like the case with the ops,  it make more sense to make sure we protect our privacy at all time,  because hard it been that the gsmbker in question just gamble online,  he won't get called out for such because no body will know about the wining unless those he be tell at some point.

This is a high risk situation for the gamblers because he already get called out on social media which will further expose him to ore extortion from those around him,  but what the contribution of the guy that is calling him. Out for sending 100k in the winnings of the 15 million.
Entitlement begats excessive expectations and excessive expectations when not met brings absolute envy which is likely to make the entitled person to want to anything within his reach to bring down the concerned person.
When a gambler gets massive winning, there are a lot of people who do think that it's their right to receive a certain amount of money from the winning and when their expectation aren't met, they become too bittered which absolutely evil. For the gambler to stake his gamble with his own money, it's his right to give or not give to anyone he wants to give regardless of how huge his winning is. So calling someone who gave you free 100k because he won 15 million is bad and should be condemned.
You are very correct and doing that has made matters worst for that victim of exclusively entire entitlement from folks who won't just man up and look away from other people's luck and results,  the thing is that,  since you don't share in their losses why should you be entitled to anything from their winnings this is the aspect and side of the whole thing that I still find hard to understand in all of this things because the 15 million doesn't just come,  the winners may have had a long history of loses also in the past before hitting this big win this time and at that should be allowed to enjoy his bounty in peace without interference.
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November 02, 2023, 09:53:05 PM
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Uhmm... It was really challenging for that dude... honestly.
I don't see why peeps become so insensible that they can't figure out what risk to take when gambling...and how risky it is to wager any amount, be it cash or crypto...
The man did well to have given him a hundred thousand... I would simply walk him off to have a drink...if that isn't enough, I'll let him cook.

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November 02, 2023, 09:59:35 PM
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I am not an expert, but I would are to say giving 100% of ones winnings to charity is rare besides, people on Twitter who are criticizing his fortunate gambler do not keep in their minds that this is a person who gambled 100N, and it is not like other big whales who only gamble for fun because they already are millionaires and stuff like that.

The OP didn’t broaden what actually transpired well, according to what I read on X was that the person he gifted the 100k after winning was actually the person that helped in predicting the game for him or maybe one of those punters that show up they Game and the eventual winner actually went ahead and played that particular game and he won, and his heart of generosity (because I see it as such) he gifted the other punter that amount which causes the fuss by others who thought he should have given more.

For me I don’t see it that way, he didn’t had an agreement to drop a certain amount of money should he win but rather he went ahead to gamble his own money, had he lost would the other punter have compensated him?, this to me is similar to someone discussing a business with you and how it will yield profit and you went ahead to invest in that business with either your money or loan business, I don’t think this person will point hands at you if you gift him anything later because it was never his entitlement.

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November 02, 2023, 10:04:09 PM
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People can start feeling entitled when you give them the benefit of some kind of relationship with you, but it is very wrong. Feeling entitled to someone else money is immature. The person we are discussing even did well to appreciative in currency, some people will only tell you "thank you", and they expect you should be okay with that, but that is also not good. Some of the people who feel the most entitled and are quick to share money in their head when it is not theirs are people who will be slow to share and give out money when it is their turn. Dissociate yourself from anyone who you notice has the entitlement mentality.
Like from the post here, we never knew the relationship and what transpired  between the both people. Judging from the recent view we can say it's very ill of him to act in this manner and even display it publicly. I think the other guy was even warm hearted to give him such amount of money and him still demanding more is a No and corny behavior, he should definitely work on his self discipline

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It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
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If I am the winner I will just laugh at them since I don't have any obligation to give a share to those entitled guys on my winnings. They didn't contribute anything so for sure they can't ask more bigger than that since its just part of good will to the winner that he share some small part of his winning. If they can't understand well there's a problem with their attitude and the winner shouldn't add more because he need to secure his self for better future since winning that amount is rare to come to other individual that's why he shouldn't get affected with those call outs since for sure there are to many people understand and appreciate the amount he give.

Self entitlement towards other peoples winning is bad attitude and they should know that they don't have right to dictate those people  who win its because that's not their money, if they also win for sure they do the same so they should not get greedy since nothing will happen to them.

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November 02, 2023, 10:07:57 PM
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I am not an expert, but I would are to say giving 100% of ones winnings to charity is rare besides, people on Twitter who are criticizing his fortunate gambler do not keep in their minds that this is a person who gambled 100N, and it is not like other big whales who only gamble for fun because they already are millionaires and stuff like that.

The OP didn’t broaden what actually transpired well, according to what I read on X was that the person he gifted the 100k after winning was actually the person that helped in predicting the game for him or maybe one of those punters that show up they Game and the eventual winner actually went ahead and played that particular game and he won, and his heart of generosity (because I see it as such) he gifted the other punter that amount which causes the fuss by others who thought he should have given more.

For me I don’t see it that way, he didn’t had an agreement to drop a certain amount of money should he win but rather he went ahead to gamble his own money, had he lost would the other punter have compensated him?, this to me is similar to someone discussing a business with you and how it will yield profit and you went ahead to invest in that business with either your money or loan business, I don’t think this person will point hands at you if you gift him anything later because it was never his entitlement.

Also, if the punter gave him that pick, or sure, he himself also got that pick and won something. This is what people are missing: these guys don't give out picks and not pick it themselves. Also, if the punter himself did not ask for anything in return and still got something out of that lucky pick, why would other people be mad on his behalf? I sometimes don't understand the entitlement people has in today's day and age. That money the winner used to bet came from his funds and not the punter's, and so even with the pick, if there's no money to risk, there's never a money to be made.

Or even if the punter did ask for something, why would he if he knows that pick will win? Why did he not bet on it and reap the rewards himself? Roll Eyes
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November 02, 2023, 10:26:30 PM
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Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.
"too small" Jesus christ people are rather entitled sometimes. From what I've seen from other posts it was told that said punter was the reason for the win but in the end, it's not like they had a contract/agreement for said bet and the money should've come from the person themselves, not the punter. That N100k should be more than enough as a show of appreciation imo since there could've been nothing instead really. Now this ain't nothing new, but it's like asking the lottery winner to give you 1/10 of the prize money because you "contributed" one of the numbers when asked earlier (sometimes I know people who ask others a number or two for their lotteries). Kinda dumb if you think about it like that.

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November 02, 2023, 10:37:09 PM
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If someone posts a thing on social media, it is expected that it will cater to different opinions.  Mostly people who want to troll can make an unpleasant sarcastic reply while others are just telling their genuine thouhgt.  If a person does not want to be on the hot spot, learn to hold oneself and never post anything online.  This way people won't have a chance to troll, flame, praise, or agree with your posts.

Besides giving something to people, may it be a tip or not, we should not brag about it on online platforms.

If I am the winner I will just laugh at them since I don't have any obligation to give a share to those entitled guys on my winnings. They didn't contribute anything so for sure they can't ask more bigger than that since its just part of good will to the winner that he share some small part of his winning. If they can't understand well there's a problem with their attitude and the winner shouldn't add more because he need to secure his self for better future since winning that amount is rare to come to other individual that's why he shouldn't get affected with those call outs since for sure there are to many people understand and appreciate the amount he give.

Self entitlement towards other peoples winning is bad attitude and they should know that they don't have right to dictate those people  who win its because that's not their money, if they also win for sure they do the same so they should not get greedy since nothing will happen to them.

If they helped me to win a huge amount then I would give them at least 25% of the winnings but if they do nothing and I just feel to be generous, I would just give them a small amount, and in this case of winning $16k  I would tip them around 0.1% which is equivalent to $16.  That is already big money in my country and being able to treat two to three people to some fast food.
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