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Since you are a campaign manager, let me ask you something (a question to all campaign managers), if someone had negative feedback from 1miau for being pro-Russian or a Pro-puerto Rican for that matter, applied to a campaign you run, would you even consider looking at his post quality with that negative feedback? Do you think that in the campaigns I manage there are no users with red tags? Btw, the political position has nothing to do with when someone justifies the killing of Ukrainians (or any other nation). Therefore, if you were an incredibly high-quality poster, you had 100 positive reviews, then I would not care about it and I would definitely not accept you into the campaign. I think we could spare the forum at least 90% of the trust system drama if ALL campaign managers start evaluating participants only based on post quality with no consideration for feedback, this way nobody will be afraid of expressing their opinion on any subject, because the current system is directly tied to money, people have to keep their mouth shut to earn some BTC, [..] What do you think I do? I recommend that you look through the lists of Webmixer, eXch, MixTum or UniJoin and tell me what % of people wearing advertising signatures are spammers. And what % of spammers are in other campaigns? Then we will have a clear comparison of those who accept users in the campaign really because of the quality of posts. But until that happens, being a DT member means you have a lot of power, enough power to dictate who gets to make money and who does not, and as long as someone has that much power -- it's no longer a matter of " it's up to me to exclude, or tag people for things that I personally see fit". Anyone who looks at DT from a power standpoint doesn't deserve to be there, although in reality it all means little considering that 95% of users using the feedback system are misusing it... sending positive and negative feedback for any reason . In addition, I repeatedly refused to those who were in the top 10 most recognizable, asking to remove this or that participant from the campaign (btw, some of them also spread rumors that the now deceased Zepher was a drug addict all his life). That’s why I don’t agree with you that someone can dictate their terms to someone.
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I am working on understanding everything between you two in my own way to see if mikeywith's observations are true or from a manipulated mind.
But you didn't work on anything to understand my observations regarding jollygood abuse, you immediately posted and accused him of abuse and harassment, why? Because you had problems with him, right? I wonder did you see my topic on him with the same excuses as jollygood or you saw it but just ignored it because you and 1 miau are trust buddies? What was that you posted once? To sin is to stay silent etc, doesn't that slogan apply here, or it's good to use when it's in your interest to show everyone what a great person you are? digaran either you do not give attention to what you read or you are not able to look at details or you are blind. One of these three must be true. Anyone who have a little interest in my activities, knows very well that how I see JollyGood, Ratimov, and in the recent time the company Rollbit. To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men was a topic came out of frustration. At some point I felt I am the only one who was always loud against JollyGood, Ratimov, and Rollbit. But turns out many members do not want to see what I saw in them. Those who agrees are afraid to deal in public but very comfortable to inform their stand in private with me and request me to do something for them. I tried many times to speak for them [those requests] before I realized there are no point to continue because some people started to take everything lightly and thinking I have personal problem with these members. So I retied from JollyGood, Ratimov and Rollbit. I rejoined Ratimov because finally someone was brave enough and was able to connect all the pieces of the puzzle together to open others eyes. I have no intention to rejoin for JollyGood and Rollbit again until someone else does very similar like GazetaBitcoin did to expose Ratimov. JollyGood is a trust and feedback abuser, he hostage his victim with negative feedback but many failed to understand it. JollyGood even is a scammer who was not able to pay a user $100 a long time ago but he someone tricked the whole community and got the pass. I was one of the user who was very laud against Ratimov but in the recent time it seems every one opened their eyes. Thanks to GazetaBitcoin. Rollbit are scammers and very soon they will have very similar fate like Betnomi. Unfortunately Hhampuz always thinks I am wrong and he is manipulating a number of people to support and advertise Rollbit.
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November 22, 2023, 12:16:22 PM |
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@1miau, why is it so hard for you to explain for everyone just for one time, and then go on with your life? It's really simple, you initially tagged me with red, which prompted me to post a thread on this same board, but later you changed it to neutral | 1miau | | 2023-10-18 | | Reference | | digaran is a proven troll. He is known for spreading lies, harassing forum (DT) members and is known for his past shady dealings. Not to be trusted. |
What happened there? Was that your second pass for a "known scammer, lair, troll" or what changed your mind? Then on the same day, you changed it back to negative which took me 2 days to notice, was it because I excluded you or "said" something you didn't like? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F10%2F20%2FRqKHb.jpeg&t=665&c=f0URo4HtEGVrsw) Then a few days ago after this post Looks like I'm living in his mind rent-free. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And if there was any doubt if these feedbacks on digaran's account were justified, at least now we know that they are 100% deserved. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You assumed because some kid is saying I might have deserved the tag, immediately went and updated your feedback with a different ref link, because the first one had an excuse such as trolling, but the second one was "legit" in your eyes, you chose that and kept laughing at me. The phrase living in my head rent free, was mentioned by Vod, you quickly picked that up as a good catch phrase, someone accused me, you picked that up as an excuse, someone here defends you, then you assume the whole world is on your side. You keep arguing with mikeywith as if he is the only one you are dealing with here, maybe you haven't figured it out, he was prompted by my topic on you, otherwise he had already forgotten your childish behaviour. And I know the so called esteemed and so called neutral DTs won't say anything here addressing my case, because siding with a "known scammer" is a bad thing, you know? But why do you keep evading to answer the questions? Or are you going to keep deviating the subject directed at mikeywith?
I just hate being a upward spit of this community, don't say I didn't tell you.
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November 22, 2023, 12:40:37 PM |
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@1miau, why is it so hard for you to explain for everyone just for one time, and then go on with your life?
@digaran I'm just trying to find a solution where we both can agree on. That's what LoyceV also wants us to do. We can also wait for a call that is given from 2 or 3 Top 10 or 20 DT members and both of us have to accept that. Repeated rants don't bring any solution, its just sowing discord.
Another suggestion for mikeywith, where I'm ready to concede ground: Lets lock this topic until 01.01.2024 that the dust settles. You can watch my feedbacks and trust list changes until then. If you think, from now on until 01.01.2024 there would be "abuse" according to you, you could open this topic again, presenting evidence. The outcomes: - If the evidence is weak, DT will judge that accordingly. - If the evidence is true and DT confirms this, I'll accept further distrusts from DT members. - If there's no abuse, the topic will remain closed and we will move on. You could review my trust feedback and trust list any time, from every entry that happens from now on until then. That way, you could interfere into my DT decisions for some time. So you see, I'm ready to concede massive ground to find a solution here. I'm stepping back from the demand that any interference into my DT decisions is not acceptable. I'm stepping back from my demand. So, as I've said I'm ready to concede this massive ground to you. How about that?
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@1miau, why is it so hard for you to explain for everyone just for one time, and then go on with your life?
@digaran I'm just trying to find a solution where we both can agree on. That's what LoyceV also wants us to do. We can also wait for a call that is given from 2 or 3 Top 10 or 20 DT members and both of us have to accept that. Repeated rants don't bring any solution, its just sowing discord. Why are you waiting for approval or disapproval from others? If you can't decide on your own, people will have to go through the same arguments over and over, life goes on, you could continue contributing while off DT, let those top 10-20 DT members handle this part of community and you handle merit distribution part, just without having the ability to scare people off this forum or trying to force them into submission at will. I will find an updated list of those having you on their list, talking with you is pointless, lets see if they are sensible or not.
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November 22, 2023, 01:27:48 PM |
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talking with you is pointless, lets see if they are sensible or not.
Pointless? Finding a solution is pointless? Yes, maybe for drama lovers like you... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I'm just following what LoyceV suggested here, to find an agreement to settle on instead of my suggestion of a 3rd party DT member decision: So, I'll accept either call, be it the one from yahoo already or if LoyceV decides to offer his solution as Switzerland. I'm all for making your own call. But we all know that you don't like DT, digaran! You are not interested to find a solution. You are just here to create drama. You are just here to sow discord. Your backfired attempts to discredit me everywhere, there's a new topic from Poker Player about you. This topic is spot on. Lets get back on the topic to find a solution: Another suggestion for mikeywith, where I'm ready to concede ground:
Lets lock this topic until 01.01.2024 that the dust settles. You can watch my feedbacks and trust list changes until then. If you think, from now on until 01.01.2024 there would be "abuse" according to you, you could open this topic again, presenting evidence. The outcomes: - If the evidence is weak, DT will judge that accordingly. - If the evidence is true and DT confirms this, I'll accept further distrusts from DT members. - If there's no abuse, the topic will remain closed and we will move on.
You could review my trust feedback and trust list any time, from every entry that happens from now on until then. That way, you could interfere into my DT decisions for some time. So you see, I'm ready to concede massive ground to find a solution here. I'm stepping back from the demand that any interference into my DT decisions is not acceptable. I'm stepping back from my demand. So, as I've said I'm ready to concede this massive ground to you. How about that?
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November 22, 2023, 01:40:22 PM |
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Do you think that in the campaigns I manage there are no users with red tags?
I don't know, which is why I asked, hopping other campaign managers would answer too. I do not know because I barely check to be honest, but it is not uncommon for campaign managers to add this rule no negative feedback from DT . Had that manager not cared about the feedback, said member would not be scared of 1miau. So, since you as a campaign manager still accept members with negative feedback, IMO you are doing a great job and I think all other campaign managers who still don't should follow the same way. This would really serve the community big time IMO.
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A message to every 1miau's victim out there who is afraid to show up here and speak up: you only have a single life to live, don't live it cowardly, oppression ends when fear does, 1miau does not control other DT members (he probably has a few "friends" who will stick with him despite his abuse but they will give up on him at one point) but that doesn't mean that there are not enough rational brave DT members who will always choose to side with the truth -- you just need to have the balls to speak up and they will eventually do the right thing.
I added the narcissistic 1miau to my exclusion list, because after 4 days of back and forth, it's pretty clear that he has no plans of correcting his behavior, he is counting on the negativity of other DT members to just let his abuse slip. It is good that there are people like you here, thank you for doing this. I am ready, users who do not want to post here in their name that they can write to me and I will post it "unknown". You can send me a private message and I will add it. I wont create a new thread in the German local yet, but I will save me this one here and maybe do that in the future if it doesnt change. The attacks have been going on for far too long and at some point it is time to react.Action / Reaction - thats quite normal. So, like bullrun2024, I using the ignore button, it becomes quieter and we can all get on with our lives.
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November 22, 2023, 03:46:28 PM |
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I added the narcissistic 1miau to my exclusion list, because after 4 days of back and forth, it's pretty clear that he has no plans of correcting his behavior, he is counting on the negativity of other DT members to just let his abuse slip. It is good that there are people like you here, thank you for doing this. Unfortunately, calling names and keep bringing up the same old, wrong accusations is not going to settle the issue. What's going to settle the issue is trying how to get along with each other, where everyone has to concede some ground. I'm already willing to concede some ground while mikeywith still isn't willing to concede even a little bit.
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November 22, 2023, 04:08:36 PM |
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I am ready, users who do not want to post here in their name that they can write to me and I will post it "unknown". You can send me a private message and I will add it.
The number of PMs I got here and on telegram regarding this subject in the past 4 days is probably more than I ever got in a month, this is the saddest part about all of this, it's like we are in the most miserable dictatorship forum where people are afraid to speak up, a forum where cursing is allowed, scam is allowed, but freedom of speech is a privilege to just a few of us, this has become far less "free community" than the centralized social media like the likes of Facebook. But if you were to ask me, this isn't 1miau's and the other abusers' fault entirely, the most part falls on those who are willing to trade their freedom of speech for a few bucks a week from signature campaigns, those pool people are brainwashed to think that someone like 1miau operates in a large network where he is protected by all other DT members and that nobody will stand by their side against him, those people have little to no clue about the forum history, Lauda was thought to be someone who controls not only other DT members but theymos himself, but all of that turned out to be an illusion and when enough people stood up against him, he fell (which was a sad end for Lauda if you ask me, but ya that's off-topic) So ya, oppression ends when fear does, nobody should be scared of any DT member, all DT members are just human, they are subject to make mistakes and thus need to be pointed at and fixed, or removed from DT, if everyone grow some balls -- the forum will be a better place.
Another suggestion for mikeywith, where I'm ready to concede ground:
Lets lock this topic until 01.01.2024 that the dust settles. You can watch my feedbacks and trust list changes until then. If you think, from now on until 01.01.2024 there would be "abuse" according to you, you could open this topic again, presenting evidence. The outcomes: - If the evidence is weak, DT will judge that accordingly. - If the evidence is true and DT confirms this, I'll accept further distrusts from DT members. - If there's no abuse, the topic will remain closed and we will move on.
You could review my trust feedback and trust list any time, from every entry that happens from now on until then. That way, you could interfere into my DT decisions for some time. So you see, I'm ready to concede massive ground to find a solution here. I'm stepping back from the demand that any interference into my DT decisions is not acceptable. I'm stepping back from my demand. So, as I've said I'm ready to concede this massive ground to you. How about that?
Ok, it's good to see you come to somewhat common sense, although we still have a major disagreement about what is "abuse", also, there is no mention of your past feedback, we agree to what happens to the future, but you do not seem to consider your previous feedback. if you were to show serious behavior correction, by deleting all political feedback you left (including neutral) then I will take you seriously and agree to your terms, be it to lock this topic till next year or even forever. Obviously, this doesn't mean you can delete feedback that says " Putin supporter, bla bla bla" and add a new one that says "He is a troll", or to continue to exclude everyone who disagrees with your statements, as Yahoo told you, many people are going to be watching you, I hope you don't try to outsmart everyone and to actually be honest about leaving all the political and personal drama outside of the trust system. I do not want to win or score a point against you, after all, as I mentioned before, the goal was never to get you out of DT, the goal is to point you to what I (and many others think) is a form of abuse. if I had the power to choose between getting you out of DT or stopping you from using the trust system for political-related stuff, I would always choose the latter as long as there is hope in you. Also just so that this whole thing does not end up with me "winning" anything out of it, I would urge you to keep me in your exclusion forever.
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November 22, 2023, 04:52:14 PM |
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I am ready, users who do not want to post here in their name that they can write to me and I will post it "unknown". You can send me a private message and I will add it.
it's like we are in the most miserable dictatorship forum where people are afraid to speak up, a forum where cursing is allowed, scam is allowed Your repeated accusations and name calling is achieving exactly nothing. In addition, that's setting an extremely dangerous precedent, where one power-hungry DT member is trying to dictate another member's ability to give out trust feedbacks. And you are acting against DT consensus, which is even more concerning! And DT will probably remove you, not me. So, let's go back to a civil discussion how to solve the issue, we have had enough back and forth already.
Ok, it's good to see you come to somewhat common sense,
Definitely, that's how we can discuss and that's how we can find common ground. I agree in general to follow that path. I'm willing to concede my red line that no one should be able to dictate my feedback for some time to calm down the situation between us. That way, people are not "afraid anymore to speak out", like you call it (where I'm having a fundamentally different opinion of course but we have that discussed already and let's agree to disagree here). So let's follow that goal for now, that we fullfill your statement, you've voiced here. That's a very generous offer in my opinion from my side. But you need to concede ground as well. Old feedbacks are not on the table as they are a thing of the past and otherwise DT would have removed me, which didn't happen - it's relevant what happens from now on, after we have agreed to find a solution for this. In addition I'm conceding to you that if there is any trust feedback (not exclusions) you consider abuse, you are allowed to unlock this topic and to start a poll in this topic, where DT members (and only DT members) can vote, if that's abuse. Both of us will have to accept the decision from that DT vote. So, I'll concede some ground, you'll concede some ground and we will find a solution, where both of us are happy. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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In addition, that's setting an extremely dangerous precedent, where one power-hungry DT member is trying to dictate another member's ability to give out trust feedbacks. And DT will probably remove you, not me.
1- I am not a DT member 2- I am not trying dictate your feedback, this is a false accusation, it would be true if I asked you to send me a positive feedback, or to remove a feedback on some scammer profile. I am asking for a fair usage of the trust system, which is whiting my rights as forum member, you are not obligated to accept it, you could ignore this thread the same way I ignored yours against me, you want to "end" this, not me, I do not view this as a "battle" where one needs to win for it to stop, I view it as an opportunity for the afraid to have the courage to speak up against what "they" think is an abuse on them, so if this has to stay here forever, I am fine by it, I will have to stop posting here at some point but I won't stop others from expressing their opinion. This topic will eventually lose it's value and people will ignore it when one of three things happen 1- your removal from DT 2- you changing your way of dealing with the system ( including past political b.s feedback) 3- everyone who has been a victim of yours loses hope in the community and nobody posts here anymore. To avoid any further drama and spare the community another 70 or so pages on this, I am willing to go with option 2, but then you say you won't delete your feedback, this means, there will still be victims affected by your abuse, I and many others (including the victims) view your feedback that says something like " Pro Russian, not to be trusted bla bla" as an abuse, in the same way I would view "Pro Ukrainian, not to be trusted bla bla". So if the abuse is still there, how can we settle this? If you say it is not abuse and its warrant, then we go back to square zero. I have never spent more time on this board than I did in the last couple of days, so I will not comment here any further unless a direct question is pointed to me although I hope nobody asks me anything anymore because I feel that I have said everything I need to say here. If you have anything "new" to say to me personally, feel free to PM me, this way we could both stop drilling this thread.
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November 22, 2023, 06:34:14 PM |
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That way, people are not "afraid anymore to speak out", like you call it (where I'm having a fundamentally different opinion of course but we have that discussed already and let's agree to disagree here). So let's follow that goal for now, that we fullfill your statement, you've voiced here. [...]
I have to admit that @mikeywith is quite right here. Why? Because I myself thought long and hard about whether I should write something about it here or not. Some context ... You and I actually had a very good relationship and I'm still grateful to you today for the tip about Avalanche back then. But things changed abruptly once I disagreed with you about a year ago and took the liberty of criticizing the way you treat other users which have an other (political) view than you do. You then wrote me a very aggressive and insulting PM where you also threatened me that you would not look at this for much longer and would take action against me. I was very surprised by your behavior, I just didn't think you were like that as a person. To be honest, the threat of consequences also led to me completely ignoring you and your posts for a long time and even now I'm still reluctant from entering into discussions with you ... and I very much hope that this thread will now lead you to reflect on your behavior. The first hints in this direction can already be seen, I really appreciate that. Personally, I would be very happy if we could get the old 1miau of "pre-corona" back in the German-speaking board. The positive trust entry I made dates back to that time.
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So true. No different than a boss taking advantage of his employees saying suck my dick or i'll fire you. It's just wrong to use your power like this. @mikeywith would it be possible for you to compile a list(some reference points) where you show 1miau abusing members and silencing them? It would be easier for anyone reviewing the case to just be able to click the links and see the abuse. Also, maybe some feedbacks you feel are political. Up to you. To anyone who is speaking up or thinking about it, please also include reference links or pms so that it can be reviewed. You want something done, you have to grow some balls and show the proof. You cannot be tagged for speaking up as it would look terrible for 1miau if he tagged you. To sum it up, the burden is on mikey and others to show/provide proof if they want change. At this point 1miau should remain quiet. If no proof is presented, case closed and everyone goes about their business.
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To anyone who is speaking up or thinking about it, please also include reference links or pms so that it can be reviewed. You want something done, you have to grow some balls and show the proof. You cannot be tagged for speaking up as it would look terrible for 1miau if he tagged you.
I think that's a very good idea @yahoo and I'm also prepared to post the PM, even though I'm very clearly insulted in it (and not just me). But I would only post the PM with 1miau's permission, it is a "private message" after all. Alternatively, I can submit the PM to a (preferably German-speaking) mod and he will confirm the content. That's just as ok for me.
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To anyone who is speaking up or thinking about it, please also include reference links or pms so that it can be reviewed. You want something done, you have to grow some balls and show the proof. You cannot be tagged for speaking up as it would look terrible for 1miau if he tagged you.
I think that's a very good idea @yahoo and I'm also prepared to post the PM, even though I'm very clearly insulted in it (and not just me). But I would only post the PM with 1miau's permission, it is a "private message" after all. Alternatively, I can submit the PM to a (preferably German-speaking) mod and he will confirm the content. That's just as ok for me. I could do the same, or I can publish it, I dont care. So if there is such a list, put my name on it. PM message was sent to me by 1miau and I ignored it, than the user Nestade came and sent me his messages as well. He write me to change my trust post and if I dont, DT will react! I can post part of the message here: Da du durch die DT-Rotationen absehbar in den nächsten Monaten wieder Teil von DT bist (aufgrund der Rotation bist du es derzeit nicht, was aber bloß durch eine für deinen Account unwahrscheinliche Zufallssituation zustande kommt), bitte ich um Anpassung des Trust entsprechend der Richtlinien: entfernen des Trusts oder Änderung zu neutralem Trust.
Trust zu nutzen heißt, das System zu verstehen und anwenden zu können. Ansonsten wird DT reagieren!
Mit Bitte um Korrektur bis 12.04.2022, 23.59 Uhr!
Found one of his threats to another user
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I can post part of the message here: Da du durch die DT-Rotationen absehbar in den nächsten Monaten wieder Teil von DT bist (aufgrund der Rotation bist du es derzeit nicht, was aber bloß durch eine für deinen Account unwahrscheinliche Zufallssituation zustande kommt), bitte ich um Anpassung des Trust entsprechend der Richtlinien: entfernen des Trusts oder Änderung zu neutralem Trust.
Trust zu nutzen heißt, das System zu verstehen und anwenden zu können. Ansonsten wird DT reagieren!
Mit Bitte um Korrektur bis 12.04.2022, 23.59 Uhr! Understand that this is what the message says according to google translate Since you will be part of DT again in the next few months due to the DT rotations (due to the rotation you are not at the moment, but this is only due to a random situation that is unlikely for your account), I ask you to adjust the trust according to the guidelines: remove the trust or change it to neutral trust. Using trust means understanding and being able to apply the system. Otherwise, DT will respond! I do not look at this as a threat. He is asking you to review your tags basically and make sure they are correct. That's what I take from it at least. Maybe he could have said it nicer? Other then that, doesn't look like any sort of threat or bullying. Looks like he was trying to help IMO and by DT will respond I would take it as a thread like this could be made about you not knowing how to use the trust system and shouldn't be in DT if you don't know the basics. I could be wrong but this is my take. I find it odd that he's worried about your inclusions and tags in advance.
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Feedback sent for political reasons:Poly#Crypto is mentally ill like his friends s0nix + Koal-84, keep in mind when you are considering to trade. Would not risk any Satoshi. Poly#Crypto is a piece of shit, supporting russian aggression: He has no problems when Russia started attacking Ukraine, and Russians are committing war crimes but Poly#Crypto has problems when Ukrainians defend themselves. How should we trust such an asshole? See also previous feedback. s0nix is mentally ill like his friends Poly#Crypto + Koal-84, keep in mind when you are considering to trade. Would not risk any Satoshi. s0nix is a piece of shit, supporting russian aggression: He has no problems when Russia started attacking Ukraine, and Russians are committing war crimes but s0nix has problems when Ukrainians defend themselves. How should we trust such an asshole? See also previous feedback Low value shitposts, spam, burst posting and excessive pyramid-quotes (61052011, 61145452 or 61021354). In addition, amishmanish downplayed Putin's war by repeatedly spreading pro-russian lies (60250177). It's discouraged to support such a behaviour by accepting such accounts into signature campaigns. Shitposting Bitcointalk with low quality spam all day; then openly accusing me for off-topic shitposting... The value Koal-84 is contributing to the forum is vanishingly small. The only occasion when his posts are getting longer is to find excuses for Russia's war against Ukraine. Disgusting behaviour from Koal-84! Avoid this Account to steer clear from unnecessary spam and derangement most probably caused due to paid signature campaigns. nullius made some disgusting excuses, when he tried to whitewash Putin's war Disgusting troll from the German section, where he is infamous for his lies, his unfounded defamations and his Off-Topic Spam Trollposts. Recently he has started to support Putin's war by downplaying it, spreading Kremlin propaganda and s0nix has even started attacking accounts criticizing Putins war. The behaviour of s0nix is unforgivable and nefarious. His shameless defamation campaign is completely nuts. He's spreading his spam, Off-Topic bullshit and pro-russian propaganda in many topics and is constantly derailing the discussion. I called him out for his wrongdoing but he doubled down on his misbehaviour. Poly#Crypto is a troll account in our German local board. Doesn't provide any value for the forum - only spam, shitposts, inaccurate information and (of course) defamations and insults. Tries to find excuses for Putin's war. Supporting Putins war with Kremlin Propaganda and selling it as "facts". (see my quote in the reference link). Helping to normalize an ongoing war is a shame. For a while thandie has been a disgusting troll abusing the forum with his off-topic spam. I addition he's trying to discredit my efforts to help raise funds for civilians in Ukraine. + other feedback that was sugar-coated by other "reasons" but was sent RIGHT after a political disagreement like this oneWhere 1miau openly admitted that he 5. I'm allowed to tag any troll and I already gave digaran a pass way back in 2022 when I came over him but didn't bother to "poke" the troll digaran.
And I'm usually only getting active with trust feedbacks, when I'm getting dragged into a confrontation.
It's pretty evident that the negative feedback he left was right after the political disagreement, had they shared the same political view, he wouldn't have sent the feedback. Trust exclusion for the sole reason of political disagreement- Mikeywith > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474713.msg63187266#msg63187266- MindRust > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474713.msg63191470#msg63191470-bullrun2024bro > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474713.msg63200560#msg63200560+ he almost distrusts ALL those to whom he sent political feedback, which would technically also fall under this list if, of course, out of the 70+ exclusions he has, nobody knows how many were done for just "political reasons", but ya, sure thing is, the list will just get longer with more victims to come. Narcissistic personality disorder, the urge to insult, curse, and punish everyone who disagrees with him, either by leaving them feedback, or exclusion or trying to censorship them one way or the other - Mikeywith : He insulted me in public for political disagreement, sent me a PM full of hatred - Harassing the German mod to delete posts that he doesn't like for personal or political reasons - Multiple PMs are sent to the German mod from people who are afraid of talking against 1miau because he would destroy their accounts- Excluding people from competition for having a different opinion - Constant attack against many German community members for having different opinions-Attacked and sent feedback to a German member for political differences-Threatening a German member via PM to take actions against him most likely using his DT power simply for political disagreement - Publically threatening a German member Extortion I was contacted by someone who interacted with 1miau for the removal of political feedback, 1miau said (I have to rephrase since the victim is afraid and I promised not to reveal his name in public). "if x member does not express his political opinion about x conflict anymore, I might remove my feedback." I can't reveal more info about this message as it will lead him to know the victim's name, but as I said before, if any DT member wants the proof and promises to never reveal the victim's name, I am willing to send the proof, I made a promise that I would only show the evidence to someone I trust that they would not reveal the victim name. - Threatening a German member to change his feedback
Mind you that zero digging was done to compile this long list of abuse and harassment, it was also either posted here or PMed to me during the past couple of days, and given how victims keep showing, it seems that the lists above have a great potential of growth, not that I think they need any more points because there is enough proof that 1miau suffers from egomania. I am disappointed to find out that 1miau despite being smart and productive, he is just like a child who lacks surrounding awareness, if you give him a puzzle to solve, he will do it, a homework to write he will probably do it neatly, but if you leave a knife next to him, the censuses could be devastating. So are his posts beneficial to the forum? for the most part yes. Is he a good Merit source? he sure is. Is he a good DT member? sure thing no. 1miau is going to harm himself and everyone else who goes against him if he stays in DT, if the DT community doesn't make up their mind to put him out of it at least temporarily, my advice to 1miau is to stay out of it himself, not being able to control your feelings and using all tools you have to punish people who disagree with you is a serious problem that needs to be addressed.
In fact, you can ignore all of the above and just look at the fact that there are some members who had to PM me or the German mod to express their fear, those poor souls are afraid to speak up because they fear what 1miau is capable of doing to them, be it a direct or indirect consequence of the way 1miau uses the system if there is at least 1 human being who needs to accept oppression in a forum that was made for a project that was intended to liberate people from centralized entities -- then this has to stop.
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~ I find it odd that he's worried about your inclusions and tags in advance.
I understand it exactly as he wrote it to me and he is setting a deadline or DT will react. I dont think he means it should be followed by a positive reaction. He will manipulate me into changing an entry about a user? Mh… for me it is so, but others are welcome to express their opinion about it. I have a problem when users are attacked and he knows that because I dont give up and defend those who are attacked as best I can. I should be known for that in the German local.
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Understand that this is what the message says according to google translate
I would be very careful using Google Translate for such a letter, English is rather simple/different, I can write a threat message in Arabic, that sounds like a threat in Arabic but would very well sound like friendly advice in English, so it's best to let other German-speaking members sum it up it for us. I find it odd that he's worried about your inclusions and tags in advance. In one of the PMs I got, I was told by a member, that 1miau is part of (or probably runs) a telegram group where he and a few other fellow friends discuss everything DT, he asked me to be careful of what 1miau is cooking for me ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) , is that true 1miau, do you discuss DT stuff on a telegram group ? please note that it isn't an accusation, it's just a question. I would believe whatever you say.
Also, 1miau for your last post, It's pretty long and I don't seem to understand it, I don't have time to count how many posts were posted here and lock-unlock the topic daily, it makes no sense, also, I don't like the fact that you want to ignore community opinions and only focus on DT members, I believe that everyone's opinion matters, after all, any sane DT member would always strive to do the best for the community. Furthermore, and more importantly, my terms are simple, delete all the political feedback abuse, do not send any political-related feedback in the future, and they don't need 20 lines post, the other alternative would be to get the majority of the community to agree on using the trust system for political reasons, which I think is not possible, you may convince a few of your friends to come and say that out loud, but then how many of them will be? The last resort would be leaving everything as is, the topic stays open forever until people get bored of it, so please do not post any more "terms", I really want to stop posting here, as I said in my previous post, I won't post unless I am asked by someone, I replied to Yahoo, and I replied to you, I don't want to be rude and ignore your posts going forward, so if it's a clear and short agreement of the terms I mentioned, it won't change a thing, it will only keep dragging this thing longer. To everyone, please forgive me if ignore your questions going forward, as you can see from my post history, I hardly post 2-3 times a day and only in topics I feel comfortable with and know exactly what I am talking about without any drama, I really am so uncomfortable posting in this section of the forum, I said everything I want to say, feel free to continue the discussion the way you like it -- I will only respond if it's something super important (which I doubt will be), so if I don't respond to your question, accusation, greeting, or anything -- I am sorry in advance.
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