Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly?

[Accardo]

It's quite difficult for such a gambler to get the financial assistance they seek. In the online gambling community, people are told to gamble responsibly. Hence, when they refuse to adhere by the primary advise, others would hardly help the person, in need. The question is close to the incident of a boy who played his school fees and rushed back to the casino to forgive him and fund him back. Seriously, these players, as fellow gamblers, already are known to waste the money. I don't think anybody will crowdfund an irresponsible gambler. They're possibilities he isn't a gambler and manipulates the results to gain pity online. If it's a person I've known, and their behavior proves otherwise. He may get a different treatment. But, online on social media; the society are more likely to ignore the player. Unlike in the real life situation. Once he finishes from the environment and doesn't get any support. I don't think, the gambler would find love elsewhere, online. Reasons, behind this carelessness on the gambler. Is to teach him of the importance of managing his money properly. Doesn't it look inappropriate to wager our house rent, school fees etc on gambling.

[n0ne]

I might help, and it is all about the financial goodness of me. If I were with enough funds and the reason is true I'll surely help him. I once tried this at my very critical situation and things didn't work when I lost my money kept for my marriage. Further I arranged the money taking a loan. During those days I've thought of similar things, if I were good enough with money need to support incidents like this. Because they don't engage with purpose of losing, the mind will be with the positive hope of making little more money and stay financially good. The reality used to be opposite from what they expect.

[Mayor of ogba]

I will not help such gamblers in raising funds for themselves through crowdfunding because for someone to use his school fees or marriage money for gambling, it means the person is addicted to gambling and the person should seek a way out of gambling. Secondly, he/she should suffer the consequences of using huge money meant for an important project to gamble, and the person might use the money gotten from crowdfunding to place another gamble.

[Hirose UK]

I might help, and it is all about the financial goodness of me. If I were with enough funds and the reason is true I'll surely help him. I once tried this at my very critical situation and things didn't work when I lost my money kept for my marriage. Further I arranged the money taking a loan. During those days I've thought of similar things, if I were good enough with money need to support incidents like this. Because they don't engage with purpose of losing, the mind will be with the positive hope of making little more money and stay financially good. The reality used to be opposite from what they expect.

I also agree that if you are able to do it, you will definitely be able or willing to help even if you have to spend money, but here gambling is an activity where you really don't know for sure when it will produce winning or profits, so think about donating it maybe only when win large amount.
We are currently living in an era that is developing rapidly, but currently the economy in every country can be said to be declining and in several countries including mine are experiencing difficulties in earning money, so will prioritize being able to meet our living needs.
That is why the most appropriate reason is to be willing to help or donate money when you are able or indeed in the situation where you have just won from gambling because of course we all also have needs or interests that cannot just be forgotten.

[vv181]

Stupid choices. The people themselves made a bad decision, so why should we collectively support and endorse such kind of behavior? The important project as you said is a basic need or necessity, and if someone loses money from gambling instead of preserving the funds for that purpose, then surely it is foolish behavior.

It is not a matter of empathy, but if someone donates to such kind of people, they would rather feel safe and still neglect their responsibility. They would simply think that if they all lost the money, they still get the community back up funds. Which is absurd. Nevertheless, it is a whole completely different problem, if the person itself is heavily addicted so their psychology is affected.

Yes, such “help” only breeds scammers and dependents. I have seen several videos on YouTube about people living in tents on the street in California and Los Angeles. They do nothing but use drugs and live like vegetables. They don’t have to try because local municipalities spend 60 thousand dollars a year on them (lol more than some workers earn by honest labor). They are not disabled, they could work, but since there is an opportunity, they chose a parasitic lifestyle.

Ah yeah, surely it also can potentially abused by the scammers, they may make a made-up story about why they got into financial ruin from gambling and such things. It is prone to those consequences. Hence it is a bad idea and decision in the first place.

Welfare funds surely have their own place, as I have mentioned, it is different cases if the matter is those who are psychologically affected. Addiction is a no joke, but it cannot simply be solved by merely supporting in a financial manner.

[angrybirdy]

Stupid choices. The people themselves made a bad decision, so why should we collectively support and endorse such kind of behavior? The important project as you said is a basic need or necessity, and if someone loses money from gambling instead of preserving the funds for that purpose, then surely it is foolish behavior.

It is not a matter of empathy, but if someone donates to such kind of people, they would rather feel safe and still neglect their responsibility. They would simply think that if they all lost the money, they still get the community back up funds. Which is absurd. Nevertheless, it is a whole completely different problem, if the person itself is heavily addicted so their psychology is affected.

Yes, such “help” only breeds scammers and dependents. I have seen several videos on YouTube about people living in tents on the street in California and Los Angeles. They do nothing but use drugs and live like vegetables. They don’t have to try because local municipalities spend 60 thousand dollars a year on them (lol more than some workers earn by honest labor). They are not disabled, they could work, but since there is an opportunity, they chose a parasitic lifestyle.

Ah yeah, surely it also can potentially abused by the scammers, they may make a made-up story about why they got into financial ruin from gambling and such things. It is prone to those consequences. Hence it is a bad idea and decision in the first place.

Welfare funds surely have their own place, as I have mentioned, it is different cases if the matter is those who are psychologically affected. Addiction is a no joke, but it cannot simply be solved by merely supporting in a financial manner.

Precisely! You can't resolve a gambler's problem by funding or lending him a money especially if the gambler is suffering in any psychological behavior like Obsession and Addiction. If you really want to help a gambler, you can suggest them to consult in a professionals. If you continue to give money to a gambler, you just tolerate their wrongdoing especially if you notice that something is wrong with their actions.

[maydna]

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Yes, it would really be that worth rather than on giving into those addicted gamblers.I would rather be donating something on a charity on which it is really that something being useful into those people who are in need
and not into some addicted fellas who are really that tending to support their addiction even further?No one into their right minds that will really be making out such step on trying out to support
into those people but rather they would be something spending which into those who are really worth on getting such help. You are the ones who would held responsible into your actions
on which it would really be just that normal that you would be the ones who would really be suffering the consequences.

Helping out to those addicted person via giving out more funding? You are really just worsening up the situation on which we know that this isnt really he solution
on quitting gambling for good but rather it would really be adding up the overall addiction that you could potentially have. So better be wary and be careful on the things that you've been
dealing off with.

Giving money to people who need it can at least help lighten their burden and give them hope to keep trying. But if we provide help to people who are addicted to gambling, it doesn't seem worth it, but maybe if the money can help cure their gambling addiction, it's still worth it because it's for the sake of curing their gambling addiction. They also don't need to think about medical costs for the therapies they have to do because there is already assistance to pay the costs.

It would be more appropriate to give besides helping people who really need help because the money can be distributed to those who need it. So instead of giving the money to those who gamble, which will only add to their problems, we should give it to those who need it more, especially those who still have difficulty buying their daily necessities.

[redsun114]

I wouldn't be interested in doing the crowdfunding for him since he didn't make a mistake or scammed out of his money but he gambled it away in all his senses possibly out of greed and he deserved to learn his lesson. However, if I feel that he is extremely ashamed of what he did and in severe need of funds, I might do it but only on one condition, that the funds will not be in his possession and will go directly to the cause that he is worried about because I wouldn't trust him to do it if he has the funds and can gamble them away as well.

I have seen a lot of such cases where people lost money that was supposed to be used for something important in gambling only because they thought they could make more money with it and then keep the extra money and use the actual amount for what it was for and lost the money and then regretted it badly.

[Coin_trader]

Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Definitely not. By donating to this fellow gambler that didn’t manage well his finances was you are just allowing him or support him to his poor financial management. He should think carefully about his needs before he start betting his money away without any extra funds available on his wallet to cover his emergency fund.

The only time I might consider donating is when he encounter an accident which his gambling is not sufficient to cover the fee. Not because he lose it all to gambling but rather the unforeseen expenses is too huge to cover by all of his fund. I believe that sometimes there’s an emergency that is greater than what we can handle. This is the time which I can help .

[swogerino]

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

That should be a big no as an answer as you don't know what such gambler will do with the amount of money you crowdfund him,if he has been irresponsible before chances are very high he will continue to do so unless he learns a very hard lesson in the hardest of ways.

I would have no empathy in this case as this gambler has surpassed the limit of where my empathy goes,if someone would have lost a huge amount of money trying to achieve a specific thing without an irresponsible behavior I would gladly crowdfund him with what I can afford to crowdfund him,this person is honest at least and has not done things like the above.

[Sunderland]

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Maybe, if I knew the guy but no for stranger from the internet.
Perhaps not a crowfunding but a donation to be precisely.

Any crowfunding with that reason shall be failed from the beginning.

[YOSHIE]

And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

I often see crowdfunding, this kind of practice occurs in projects, businesses, investments and so on, but I rarely see it, this kind of funding practice can occur in gambling both locally and internationally.

For me I don't know what to say about Crowdfunding policy, if I do it, even though it is something that people want to do online all over the world.

Maybe to raise funds there are other alternatives besides Crowdfunding, which are wiser, although I don't know whether Crowdfunding exists or not, the point is that gambling is risky, it's better to use your own money, it might be more overall.

[Accardo]

I wouldn't be interested in doing the crowdfunding for him since he didn't make a mistake or scammed out of his money but he gambled it away in all his senses possibly out of greed and he deserved to learn his lesson. However, if I feel that he is extremely ashamed of what he did and in severe need of funds, I might do it but only on one condition, that the funds will not be in his possession and will go directly to the cause that he is worried about because I wouldn't trust him to do it if he has the funds and can gamble them away as well.

I have seen a lot of such cases where people lost money that was supposed to be used for something important in gambling only because they thought they could make more money with it and then keep the extra money and use the actual amount for what it was for and lost the money and then regretted it badly.

Handing out financial help to an addict is quite inadmissible. He'll go back to where he stopped, and waste the money. How is he going to fund back the money, to the lender? I think the person who deserves such help, could be a new gambler, with less experience. If he shares a polite, moral and logical true story, explaining how he got carried away. Then, people can help out, especially, when he's a modest person, looking to begin a fresh habit in gambling. The right thing is your suggestion. Endeavor he doesn't get it directly. As we can't for sure determine his level of inattentiveness in becoming a changed person, or whether he's being swayed by somebody else. And he's got the begging idea to deceive people. Unless his loss dropped him in an inconsolable situation, the player wouldn't deserve any direct help at the moment. Therefore, those who are in the disposal of helping, should be careful with their decision. Because, if neglected because of the multiple factors that qualifies the gambler to be lying. It could be an expensive mistake on the helpers end, broken, immature players are very vulnerable. And could harm themselves, from the thoughts of losing out all they've got in gambling. Many times, when people are genuinely interested in changing through their mistakes, they're being judged by the actions of others who were in similar problem in the past. And we end up regretting our hard decision on the person. By not helping them, I think once we're sure he is sincere, and promises to pay back, he should be helped.

[junder]

Ah yeah, surely it also can potentially abused by the scammers, they may make a made-up story about why they got into financial ruin from gambling and such things. It is prone to those consequences. Hence it is a bad idea and decision in the first place.

Welfare funds surely have their own place, as I have mentioned, it is different cases if the matter is those who are psychologically affected. Addiction is a no joke, but it cannot simply be solved by merely supporting in a financial manner.

Precisely! You can't resolve a gambler's problem by funding or lending him a money especially if the gambler is suffering in any psychological behavior like Obsession and Addiction. If you really want to help a gambler, you can suggest them to consult in a professionals. If you continue to give money to a gambler, you just tolerate their wrongdoing especially if you notice that something is wrong with their actions.

Helping or giving a budget to gamblers is a ridiculous thing you  do if your goal is to help solve their problems, do you know that gambling addicts always want to gamble at all costs? and if you give them a budget it is like you give them a new breath to return to gambling and depend on luck. This is not a good way but what happens is that the gambler will get worse in his gambling involvement, if you really want to help them then you should be able to consider what their problem is, if their problem is gambling addiction then don't choose that way, it's the same as telling them to go back to gambling by lending them your money.

What you should do is find a way to help them in implementing any restrictions for the best that should be done to overcome the problem, as you said, you might be able to give some suggestions to them with reasonable statements that can at least make them realize that their activity is very severe and only causes  a lot of problems. And also other things maybe you can suggest them to do meditation or go to a rehabilitation place to restore their mindset and common sense.

[adultcrypto]

Gambling is not something to start with or do with borrowed funds or money that is not yours, why would someone need to be crowdfunded for the sake of gambling. Worst case is that it is a case of a failed gambler, so there is no guarantee that the funds will not be lost again.

I will rather donate the money to charity than crowdfund a failed gambler.

[Dzwaafu11]

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective.

You know, giving out is mind, not wealth. There are people that have money and win huge amounts of money in gambling but can’t help the needy, and we still have people that win small and help people around them, so therefore. I can say they also help because we have gamblers in my area, and up until now, if they win money in gambling, they help people financially. But not every time, though, and I can say that gamblers often help people financially.

Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Among all these things you mention, I will choose only two, which are school fees and house rent, because they are the most important things at that time since I would not like to see someone seeking help for his or her school fees. I have the money but can't help, and we are all students, so if I can, I will help him out to avoid dropping out of school. Some things happen that we didn’t expect to reach some extent, and this type of mistake is unavoidable. Sometimes, it can happen to anyone.
 
But for investments and the remaining ones, I will advise him to live them  at the moment until he has the money to do them. He should avoid gambling and look for another thing to do to earn money so that he can do the investment or marriage he wants to do.

[ChiBitCTy]

There is no way that I'm helping out a degenerate gambler whom should have known better and not gotten themselves in a position where they literally need to crowd fund to help "stay afloat".  This is ridiculous.  The only way I MIGHT consider it is if it were a very close friend of mine or perhaps a relative.  Even then I would probably struggle to help them.  I just don't have a ton of sympathy.

[MainIbem]

Charity is one important thing people should participate and when we as individual always wanting to jeopardize that opportunity you would find out that some people stops giving why because they always sees as a means of survival. Then boils down to the next, well I will say I can't crowdfunds such people knowing too well that gambling is not what one should be trusted of because after becoming successful or let's say you wanna start distributing games to people those games giving out how sure are we is to play accordingly meanwhile there may be some people who would put a meaningful amount thinking it's a life changing game without knowing it won't go according to how it was planned.

[Gozie51]

I might help, and it is all about the financial goodness of me. If I were with enough funds and the reason is true I'll surely help him. I once tried this at my very critical situation and things didn't work when I lost my money kept for my marriage. Further I arranged the money taking a loan. During those days I've thought of similar things, if I were good enough with money need to support incidents like this. Because they don't engage with purpose of losing, the mind will be with the positive hope of making little more money and stay financially good. The reality used to be opposite from what they expect.

I have thought it that way that those who have been in such shoes are those that won't think twice to help crowdfund for him because they have tried it before either succeeded or failed so they understand how it is to lose monies meant for important and urgent stuff to gambling. But to go gambling, one should already understand that it is a risk in the first place, meaning you can lose all which is the case we have seen. To try doubling your marriage money or school fees in gambling is the height of irresponsible gambling.

[Ben Barubal]

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

  Even if the purpose is excellent and the project is tied to gambling, crowdfunding does not appear to be a good idea in my perspective. I had already investigated here in the forum that there was financing in ICO projects during 2017.

  But I haven't seen anyone in the crypto area who has done a crowdfunding initiative involving or related to gaming. I don't appear to have discovered anything that is consistent with my investigation.