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December 10, 2023, 01:41:36 PM
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Most people that are gambling for the first time, did that because they wanted to make profit. Some gamblers will have already gotten addicted, and after they have overcome their addiction, will now understand that gambling is done for fun. Another set of gamblers are those that will not get addicted but after so much loss on gambleling is when they will now realize themselves that chasing their loss is leading them to more losses. This is when they will stop gambling for profit but for fun. In gambling experience is what teaches or disciplines a gambler for him to be able to control his gambling activities.

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December 10, 2023, 02:00:41 PM
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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.


It depends on the character of the gambler, some gamblers get motivated when they win on their first tries and spend time and money trying to extend their winning run, and some gamblers even though losses on their first tries continue to play, usually get their inspirations from gamblers who succeed from gambling, thinking that they can duplicate their access.
Their battle cry is if others can do it why not me I can do better than this guy so I will keep on trying until I get that winning formula.

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December 10, 2023, 05:34:22 PM
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Most people that are gambling for the first time, did that because they wanted to make profit. Some gamblers will have already gotten addicted, and after they have overcome their addiction, will now understand that gambling is done for fun. Another set of gamblers are those that will not get addicted but after so much loss on gambleling is when they will now realize themselves that chasing their loss is leading them to more losses. This is when they will stop gambling for profit but for fun. In gambling experience is what teaches or disciplines a gambler for him to be able to control his gambling activities.
Usually, they are curious because they have seen videos of other people who have won a lot of money, so they want to try it too. In this first game, they were able to get the victory they wanted, and this is what made them want to come back another day. But some gamblers don't stop immediately after winning because they are too greedy to want to win even bigger. They actually use their winnings to continue gambling, but unfortunately, most of them end up losing, which wastes all their money. But this also doesn't make them stop gambling and think that gambling is just an entertainment activity. Instead, they continue gambling again after they get more money. This is what triggers them to become addicted to gambling, and most of them will not realize it.
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December 10, 2023, 05:40:10 PM
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Yes it's true. People’s behavior is based on experience, and when the gambling experience is positive from the very beginning, it is later very difficult to change your attitude towards it. I knew one gambler who played slots for the first time and won a car (several thousand dollars at that time). This played a very cruel joke on him. Then he lost this car and a lot of money trying to win again.
If his experience had not begun with such a pleasant event that he remembers for the rest of his life, then perhaps he would not have become addicted to gambling.

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December 10, 2023, 05:51:00 PM
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No matter how much you try to warn newbie gamblers, they'd still believe that beginner's luck carries on and they are destined to win a lot of games just because they won the first time. Winning something releases feel good hormones which is addicting, and those who can't control these urges tend to chase this feeling because it is already embedded in their brains. It's just like doing something you deem as fun, and because you are enjoying it, you keep on coming back to it.

I guess the best advice is that those who gamble should keep track of how much they spent on gambling and that they take things easy. It's something that will claw through you every now and then and you'll give in because you're feeling lucky.

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December 10, 2023, 05:53:14 PM
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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.


It depends on the character of the gambler, some gamblers get motivated when they win on their first tries and spend time and money trying to extend their winning run, and some gamblers even though losses on their first tries continue to play, usually get their inspirations from gamblers who succeed from gambling, thinking that they can duplicate their access.
Their battle cry is if others can do it why not me I can do better than this guy so I will keep on trying until I get that winning formula.
Indeed, different gamblers has different response on their first win. But if we would base on what's usually happening, then for sure it is gamblers who are thrilled on their next bets after a winning one than with gamblers who are still playing after their first loss. And I guess it is where this idea originated. However we could only prove whether the argument is wrong or not once you get to that point wherein you will decide whether to continue playing or to stop already. Individual differences would as well matter and we just tend to complicate the idea due to our assumptions. If you're just unsure if your exposure to this industry would be good or bad in your end, then stop already. Winning and losing will both come its way to you.

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December 10, 2023, 06:01:19 PM
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Yes it is all about mindset, no matter what is the result of our first time gambling, it can be dangerous if we do not know what to do next.
Some people who won their first time gambling may think like "it is easy to make money", "I think I'm lucky with this game" or something similar which make them continue.
On the opposite side, some people who lost their first gambling may think "I'm unlucky now, maybe next", "I have to take back what I lost" so they continue.
Both situations are dangerous situation that may lead gamblers into addiction, I dont think that it is a trap but it is more about how to make decision with what to do based on what we get. 

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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.

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December 10, 2023, 06:52:06 PM
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There is no certain approach that best suits all gambling styles or personalities, this calls for us to know ourselves in relation to the game we desire and get to bet and at the same time manage both ourselves and our accounts proactively. I will not be among the people who are preaching fear into the minds of gamblers, this can only cause them not to be free with their gambling. This preaching is particularly not true, there is no relationship between the first-time result and the next tries, let fate and expertise continue to work for you as a gambler. The first winning can't stop another winning if it must, and the first loss can stop the next winning or loss, it is what it is.

If a gamble didn't play the second time, how would he know if it was going to be a win or loss? It has to do with our minds and this can't be a cause of addiction truly. I've also said it here more than once, addiction is a different issue, so I'm kinda of agreeing with the OP here as people often overemphasize things here. We should just be budgetary, know the games we are playing fully well, and have a good plan and not go astray from the plan. Our discipline must also be intact as it's the only way that could preserve our betting psychology. If we lose it, then we are no longer in control but emotions have taken over.

And of course, we should only budget the money we can afford to lose and never exceed that limit.

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December 10, 2023, 08:58:43 PM
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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.

Well that is what we call risk in gambling, we really don't know what will be the outcome is, it could be based on luck, 50/50 chance or sports betting wherein odd makers put a team or a individual as favorite. Yes, there are a people who win immediately the first time when they enter gambling, maybe though you are not that lucky. Nevertheless, even if you lose the first time, it can still be motivation for others to chase what they have lost and so the cycle begin with either a big win or a small lost.

If you are talking about benefits, then obviously it's the free money and then the excitement that you are going to feel. What we call the adrenaline rush and so others are going to be trap with this first win as they want to repeat the process and that feeling again and again.

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December 10, 2023, 09:11:08 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

Its a joke, a myth, a gamblers fallacy and it will be repeated again and again by many people in the future.
In the online casino, it is impossible to set it by design, I think no need to take seriously for a topic like that.
Many people also will consider it as a joke either.

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December 10, 2023, 09:35:13 PM
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It's dangerous for gamblers who will think that they could repeat the same win over and over again. That could actually lead to gambling addiction because they are hoping over and over again and even if they are losing more they will try again because they already experience winning once or twice.
But correct, if a gambler is in control then this kind of trap is nothing to worry about. If we already accepted that it's going to be difficult to win against the house then we are okay. Only those who are too optimistic to think that they can defeat them with a large margin will be the ones who are in trouble.
I've experienced winning as a newbie and I already withdrawn the money from the gambling site and enjoyed all the profits with my kids. After that rest, I played back and luckily won again. Enjoyed that profit one more time until in the recent couple of months I am not able to win anymore. It's like everything I won was taken back and in my computation, most of the profits from before are almost equal to the losses in USD.
But that didn't make me a gambling addict, I still have control that whenever my budget is done, I will stop. That made me realize that gambling will take back what we won, it may take them a long time but they will claim it back slowly unless we get out of casino games.

The house takes everything we've won in gambling, you're right. Newbie gamblers fail to understand that competing with the house is quite demanding. And would eat up all their funds. Winning and withdrawing immediately sounds cool, but it'll be better to gamble a bit more, maybe twice, before taking the funds. Because if care is not taken the winner will wager all they've won and deposit more in the process of winning big. After the bank roll has been completely spent the gambler will feel sad for his mistakes. The problem revolves around every gambler who thinks they can win against the house. Those who gamble for fun have a better chance of winning than the loss-chasing gamblers. Who doesn't plan their money or time, while gambling? They also bring a bad name to the niche of gambling. As many hate gambling in society, because of the actions of addicted gamblers. Unless a person reads about gambling, they'll always see all gamblers as an irresponsible person. Due to their experiences with a loved one who has been abusing gambling. So, gamblers shouldn't believe in any win trap, they can only get lucky at some point, then withdraw money, like you, and move on. During their next gambling session, they can easily spend a few funds, if no win arrives, the player should stop and rest. Winning is not a must in gambling. Players who think it's a must to win in gambling will face deep trouble in gambling.

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December 10, 2023, 09:44:34 PM
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If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made.
It would be interesting if we could see the percentage of gamblers who win on the beginning of their journeys for real. Anyway, I believe if someone loses on their first attempt, the chances they are going to continue playing isn't the same when compared to someone who has won. And the more they lose at the beginning, less likely it will be they continue betting as well.

I've seen some comments from laymen on social medias who were recently introduced to gambling through social influencers, but didn't manage to win anything, so they just gave up immediately.

We, human beings, tend to only repeat behaviors and actions we are reinforced to. If there isn't any reinforcements by the environment, but punishments (to lose money) instead, there is no reason to keep trying.

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The lessons learned from loss leaves an indelible impression on the gambler than the wins. When you lose at first, you learn to sit back and review, reflect on the games you played, why you lost and what you can do so that it doesn't happen again.

On the other hand, if you win on your first game, you will think that it is walk in the park and that the odds are in your favour. You will get carried away and leave your gambling activity to chance. Most of the mistakes we made in gambling from the beginning would have been averted if only our first outcome was a loss.

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Gamblers should not believe in the first game win trap! Yes, it is totally true Yesterday I played a demo game from the pragmatic with just 4 spins I got 20 free spins and had a jackpot two times  Grin Grin. Back years ago I played slot and also won the jackpot big and lost it all in the next few days like literally all of it. What a joke but it is what it is.

Deal with it guys. But because we win at first time we think it is sweet to play gamble and earn money

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December 11, 2023, 04:43:56 AM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

Gambling is really dangerous especially for beginners and they don't have self-control and they quickly get addicted to that game. I also believe that beginners in gambling often win, that's why we have something called beginners luck in gambling because it's really true. And I also agree with what you said, most of the gamblers think about making money from gambling and that thinking is really wrong, you will get addicted to gambling faster if you think like that. There are also newbies in gambling who can control themselves no matter how excited they are, as long as you have a budget for playing and you don't exceed it, I think you are safe.

The case that what OP says can happen can be, of course, but in novice players, because novice players who have no idea what the game means, have in mind that they are going to win, what they have certain money and they are going to multiply it, and they enter with that type of thinking, they also believe in the mistake that if they have this value and lose it, then they don't care, because they put more money back to continue betting in the casino, and they don't They know that money at that time becomes secondary, because the emotions, the impulses are what sometimes play for one as a person, one can also observe that sometimes luck can be on one's side, but later They can change things for the worse, and that losing streak is what can make us all go wrong, so this is similar to things when in a hillo he talks about addiction can be born after a winning streak.

In part I know that this is the case, because a person who enters a casino for the first time and wins frequently for a reasonable amount of time, and who from one moment to the next begins to lose, and lose, the person would not be satisfied, because He knows that he was previously winning a lot of money, so he thinks that if he continues to play hard because he will be winning and that his streak will be much better than the previous one, then that is where the casino acts, because the casino has its house advantage , that's why they say that the house always wins, then when things change for the worse is where you know the true player, the one who is impatient, the one who loses control, the one who cannot accept that he can succeed. things as they are in the casino, then things can turn out to be a nightmare, or they can be stressful, also put pressure, all this can turn into a gaming session, when they lose the notion of what casinos are, what they are made of. to enjoy, to have fun.


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December 11, 2023, 05:24:28 AM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.
Because there are a lot of stories like that and coming from my fellow gamblers' stories they are tempted to bring more money and explore gambling as a means to make money when they experience winning on their first tries and we have so many threads about new gamblers falling into believing that they can make money from gambling because of their beginners' luck this is a fact it may not be true to other people but the fact remains that so many people fall into this trap that is why we have the saying beginners' curse in gambling

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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.
But those who on their first tries experienced that beginners have a stronger motivation and belief that they can make money from gambling than those who suffered a series of losses from their first tries they are the ones who started to spend more time more money and explore ways to continue what they experienced on their first tries, you know in gambling you are motivated by your results and if you see good results in your first tries you start to believe that its possible to make money in gambling so you devise or explore methods so you can continue winning.

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December 11, 2023, 06:51:02 AM
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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.
Of course, not everyone can get a big win the first time when they first start gambling, in fact this kind of perspective is just talk from other people, in fact there are still many new players who were not able to win even though they have spent a lot of money gambling.  This is of course just a warning to people who win for the first time in gambling so that they can limit their gambling

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December 11, 2023, 09:51:48 AM
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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.
Of course, not everyone can get a big win the first time when they first start gambling, in fact this kind of perspective is just talk from other people, in fact there are still many new players who were not able to win even though they have spent a lot of money gambling.  This is of course just a warning to people who win for the first time in gambling so that they can limit their gambling

Only some of them or some of them can get a win when at the beginning of their involvement luck comes at the same time when they have a session, the title above is just a warning if in the first session of  gambling you get a win then you should not easily believe and not say that all gamblers will get a win at the beginning of their involvement.
As you said, there are still many gamblers out there who have spent a lot of money but still have not won at all, and that is a big reason for the statement that "gambling is just about luck".

On the other hand, the warning made by the OP is very good, because lately I have seen that it is true that gamblers who put too much hope and confidence in income from gambling when in the early stages they can already get a win, the luck that comes at the beginning is like brainwashing them into assuming that "gambling is an effective way to earn" even though the initial victory is nothing more because at the same  time luck also comes. So it is hoped that for you and those especially who have just come to better understand what gambling is along with the concept of victory and the risks that are there, it is very useful so that you are not carried away by negative currents and end up in a slump.

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December 11, 2023, 10:31:23 AM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

What's even more dangerous is that casino and gambling companies know this, which gives them incentive to engineer their gaming platforms to give new players more wins after they've just registered. They will likely have statistics showing that even if they give a player back more than their deposit amount during the first few days of consistent play, they'll be able to get more out of the player long term. So not only does the player face a trap of their own making, there is great bias for the gambling site to psychologically trap someone too.

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