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December 18, 2023, 07:02:41 PM |
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Since you have mentioned, a league that we place our bets, do you mean a league that was listed in most bookies? I'm pretty sure all of my followed leagues that was covered by most bookies are fair and square. Maybe there might be some concerned calls and issues on some particular games or match but not to the point it will be considered as game fixing in general. By the way, if that thing was in your mind, do you mind sharing your followed leagues that you think always have a controversy?
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December 18, 2023, 07:32:34 PM |
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This is the reason why I dont bet on a minor league anymore, there is a risk that I may place a bet on a fixed match when betting on the minor leagues. And when that happen, the bet will be void and the account might be marked by the system then trigger a KYC and casino blocked the account. btw here is the example of match fixing from some sports, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_match-fixing_incidents
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December 18, 2023, 09:10:52 PM |
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I am not one to make many online bets or bets on sites unless it is on authorized platforms but with fiat money, because I don't know much about sports, in football I only bet when it is the World Cup or the Champions League, but that is because I really like Barcelona, Real Madrid and Chelsea, because they are European teams that I see play very well and have a lot of fame, but I don't know much about the local leagues, but this makes me remember that I can do anything if I know It is important to study how to do it to understand what the bases are for betting, the knowledge that must be acquired, I have many friends who talk about the players and their ways of playing, perhaps that's where they figure out how to bet.
When you bet just because I like a team, it is not the right thing to do, because you have to go further, perhaps technical aspects, fans know a lot about the technical, but when they are not with cheats or fixes it is easy to realize, and that's a shame, everything is lost.
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December 18, 2023, 09:18:35 PM |
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Match fixing is a very big offense and I believe that those people fixing matches does this secretly because if they are caught, they will get sanctioned from football. It is against any sport and I believe that it doesn't only apply to football.
This is the reason why I can't bet on those small leagues that is not popular because, they use their matches to make money by fixing the match and I see this as greed and lack of love for football because match fixing will kill the passion that they players have to win games for their clubs, since they don't have any option than to play according to what they are instructed to do. What of a player or some players disagree to dance to the tune of the game and they played to win the game instead of losing, will these set of players be kicked out of the club, or is it that platers are also paid when a match is fixed ?
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December 18, 2023, 11:31:33 PM |
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On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level. If you have that kind of mindset better stay away from betting on those you think are fixed or rigged matches. As a sports bettor for a long and if you are a regular bettor of that match, I think you should somehow know or have an idea how to play well in that match regardless if there's a suspected fixed match or not. You can also take that as an advantage instead of a disadvantage. In my own personal experience as a sports bettor, I only bet on popular league as even there's a chance of game fixing here, the organizers won't ruined their reputation for that as it's hard to earned people's trust and they are considered these leagues as business and they will protect it from any form of negative impression.
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December 18, 2023, 11:50:30 PM |
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This is the reason why I dont bet on a minor league anymore, there is a risk that I may place a bet on a fixed match when betting on the minor leagues. And when that happen, the bet will be void and the account might be marked by the system then trigger a KYC and casino blocked the account. btw here is the example of match fixing from some sports, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_match-fixing_incidentsIt's weird that they're doing a scorced earth approach to this kind of problem, the real problem is the leagues that do this but the innocent players get the boot too. I guess they really don't want any person that's involved in match fixing to reap the benefits, I'm sure that it's not just the minor leagues that have this kind of problem, big leagues probably is just more sneakier and the people that they let in on the knowledge of a fix are much fewer. To answer the question, I'm really not concerned because I'm not in it and the people that get caught in match fixing are always going to get busted so whatever they do to catch these incidents, just keep on doing it because it works.
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December 18, 2023, 11:55:55 PM |
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On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level. If you have that kind of mindset better stay away from betting on those you think are fixed or rigged matches. As a sports bettor for a long and if you are a regular bettor of that match, I think you should somehow know or have an idea how to play well in that match regardless if there's a suspected fixed match or not. You can also take that as an advantage instead of a disadvantage. In my own personal experience as a sports bettor, I only bet on popular league as even there's a chance of game fixing here, the organizers won't ruined their reputation for that as it's hard to earned people's trust and they are considered these leagues as business and they will protect it from any form of negative impression. That is true, if you have been a sportsbettor of a specific sports, you will have an idea what's really going on with the game. Better not to place your bet if your instincts is telling you something is off with the game. You can spot some unusual stuffs if you are an avid follower of such sports. Such match fixing always happens under our noses.
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December 18, 2023, 11:58:46 PM |
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I think it’s a thing to be concerned about as match fixing is just not okay. After doing some vigorous work doing some research, it would end up being a fixed match making people losing out on their legit bets. Obviously, there are going to be winners as well in a fixed game. Winners who had no idea the game was fixed but still won.
But it’s never a good thing to try and manipulate the outcome of a sporting event. It takes away the fun out of it and if repeatedly done, the event becomes uninteresting and would gradually lose viewers.
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December 18, 2023, 11:59:53 PM |
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When I was still actively betting in Dota 2, match fixing always occurred in Division 2 and lower tiered games. As time went on, these match fixing issues were resolved and was completely gone, or so I thought. I started betting on a lot of Chinese matches during qualifiers as the teams involved are only one of these two: very good or very bad. Most of the time, the odds speak for themselves, and it's a no-brainer to not gain 20 or 30% profit just by placing something on these games. Unfortunately though, near the end of these qualifiers occur some of the match fixes. Imagine a team who barely struggled to get to the semis managed to win against a team that won all of their games with no defeat? Totally insane. It's not really a convincing game either, as the elite team can clearly be seen throwing the game for something.
Since then, I just avoided Chinese dota scene, and moved forward with my sports betting adventures. Once you know which leagues or games often have these problems, you'll just avoid them and look for a more honest league elsewhere.
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December 19, 2023, 12:02:59 AM |
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Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Yes, match fixing bothers me alot. Gambling is a game of luck because there are too many variables to be fulfilled and so many uncertainties too. If match fixing then takes place in football gambling; then that means the bookmakers are cheating an already unfair system balance towards gamblers. Match fixing is wrong and should be abolished; while defaulters deserves more punishment than just fines and ban from football haha
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December 19, 2023, 12:34:45 AM |
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why would you not? the only reason a person will be not concerned is if he/she knows that it is fixed and profited from that kind of scheme, if I'm the person who bets on the other side, and found out later it is fixed I will be mad, since it should not be, because there are lot of people who is expecting that its all good, that there are no cheating, but sadly like other said, they are doing this because of money.
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December 19, 2023, 04:49:52 AM |
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Everything that seems impossible can happen in a sports match, a strong team can lose to a small team, a goal in the last minute can ruin a big team's victory. We all agree that the ball is round, but at certain times a round ball can also belong to the dealer due to the severity of score fixing by the mafia in sporting matches. Match fixing is not only synonymous with the small leagues, this can also be the case in the big leagues.
Juventus once left a black mark on Italian football, the Calciopoli scandal that ensnared Juventus has become a disgrace in modern football and will always be remembered in Italian football. So when betting on any match, you must prioritize logic, not your desire to win big.
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why would you not? the only reason a person will be not concerned is if he/she knows that it is fixed and profited from that kind of scheme, if I'm the person who bets on the other side, and found out later it is fixed I will be mad, since it should not be, because there are lot of people who is expecting that its all good, that there are no cheating, but sadly like other said, they are doing this because of money.
Even if you don't know if a certain game is fixed, you should already believe that fixed game could happen anytime, in any sports. That in mind, as a bettor you'll already consider it in analyzing your bets. Sports betting is not easy as we think, not because we are familiar with sports and we are good in math, that doesn't guarantee a win since there are factors like sports rigging that has to be considered all the time. Though we would not know what game but at least should suspect for awhile, so we won't fall into trap lines.
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December 19, 2023, 05:43:46 AM |
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The issue of match fixing is a bit of a concern for me because it is related to the manipulation of match results which is clearly detrimental to gamblers. However, because I bet on a big league which clearly maintains its credibility, transparency and honesty, I'm not too worried that the league will be related to this match fixing. Even though the risk is still there, I think it is very small and it is not something to worry about.
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I don't know whether fix matches occur in the leagues where I usually bet, because these leagues are big leagues and if there is a practice of fix matches, of course we will know about it when it appears in the media, but so far there hasn't been, and I guess that there will be more fix matches. happens in small leagues because maybe leagues like this don't get the spotlight from officials who will of course give punishment to the club that does it if it's proven to have happened. Bettors will not be able to know that there will be a fix match unless they get information from insiders
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I’m curious what’s their basis on categorizing match fixing because it’s very hard to prove it unless they have recording about the negotiation before the match begin. I think most of this suspicious match are those upset matches with high odds. There’s no way to verify all these numbers or else the league needs to be investigate due to the number of suspected match fixing. There is a way to verify. In fact, you already said one of it, and that is if there is a recording about the negotiation. Doing this must be hard because the people involved are also aware with it. If someone will get caught, they will be punished badly, or worse got killed. This is the reason why evidence like this are rare but the ones that people do to judge if there is a match-fixing that happens or not is they watch the performance of each team. When they saw an odd movement, that is a sign already. Investigation should be done for real, so that offenders will get fear of it and the cases will be reduced. But, I doubt it will happen as corruption can also occur.
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December 19, 2023, 01:20:37 PM |
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Does match fixing really works out as we may think? Can this manipulation really be carried out because we all know that matches are game fun and interest and when it's off from what it's then we can say is game anymore rather than self interest. I do not believe in fixed matches because I know too well that the results are always unpredictable and for that any fixed match may not go accordingly except as few people suggested for some local leagues it could be manipulated.
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December 19, 2023, 01:36:17 PM |
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Does match fixing really works out as we may think? Can this manipulation really be carried out because we all know that matches are game fun and interest and when it's off from what it's then we can say is game anymore rather than self interest. I do not believe in fixed matches because I know too well that the results are always unpredictable and for that any fixed match may not go accordingly except as few people suggested for some local leagues it could be manipulated.
I would also like to point out Fixed matches are actually easier to pull off if we talk about sports which are an 1 versus 1, instead of teams of several people, in part because of what you say. It is easier to control de outcome of the whole match if you just need to convince a single person to underperform, instead or a whole team, it also becomes less likely for them to leak the match fixing to the news or the press, so those doing the ilegal activity can get away with it. If small football leagues are more prone to suffer from match fixing, I would not even want to imagine how serious such problem is in sports likes boxing, tenis, darts or ping pong. There is also much precedent of match fixing in e-sports, specially MOBAS, so I would not also get comfortabke on getting my money on it while there are new/small leagues going on. Just a personal measure I would keep in mind, so the greed of others won't end up being my ruin. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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~ On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Firstly, I think that fixed games are almost non-existent at the top level - the business of top clubs and top players is too expensive (literally billions) to risk it. The Bayern Munich football club is worth several billion dollars and their annual budget is about a billion. How can they be involved in fixed games if in order to implement them you need to involve a lot of people (a big risk) plus for it to pay off you have to earn tens of millions - but such “earnings” will not go unnoticed either by bookmakers and by financial monitoring authorities for money laundering and other murky transactions. I believe that at the top level, fixed games do not exist simply for economic reasons, therefore, they do not concern or bother me in any way. The entire area of fixed games is in sports (and athletes) where little money are in turnover and any outside income makes sense. In football, these are 2nd 3rd leagues where players like (on their own or by agreement with “helpers”) to bet on the fact that a yellow card will be given at a certain minute. But such options are obvious to everyone, so bookmakers monitor large bets here and if there are suspicions, they simply return the bet to the sly ones with odds of 1 (all in accordance with the rules), so the earnings here are not as great as the sly ones would like. I heard that there is a separate sport that, on the one hand, is quite popular, but on the other, not very profitable and it is very, very affected by fixed games - this is table tennis. Firstly, there is always a high volatility of results, which allows you to “justify” unexpected turns in games when the favorite, after winning 2 sets, unexpectedly loses three sets in a row. Or, for example, when the favorite in a certain game loses all his serves. There is a very large space for fixed games (and btw when only one side is cunning and tries to make illegal profits). Does this affect me in any way? Absolutely not. Firstly, I place bets mainly on top competitions (where, as you remember, in my opinion, there are simply no fixed games). Secondly, even if I bet on a fixed game where the result will be crooked (relative to the “fair” outcome), then at a distance it will not matter to me since in one case it will be in my favor, and in another case against me. + - everything will be balanced.
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On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Every bettors are concerned when there's game fixing nobody wants to read news about game fixing even if it is a rumor, organizations are quick to address this, and they should be because sports organizations are all about trust, if there is no trust there will be fewer bettors and attendance and sponsorships will go down, its a big concern for me but its a more concern for organizations or promoters so they have to address this issue so it will not escalate further losing revenues and profits from ball clubs and teams.
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