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July 24, 2024, 11:38:26 PM
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Irrespective of how smart an AI may seem, gambling is still a game that cannot be accurately predicted all the time, no matter how good your AI tool may seem. In casino games, the programme used in making the results are usually made to enable random result selections and it's code are always kept private so it can't be manipulated and used by programmers to get into their system. However in terms of sport betting, we all know how unpredictable the games might be sometimes, even at the last minute, changes could be made that will alter the results.
AI will never be able to do what gamblers want and the reason for this is simple, if a player can use AI against the casino, what makes the player think the casino cannot use AI against them instead? In fact I am sure casinos are already looking into it as we speak, and this will make it way harder for those that make sport bets to profit from it, as the AI used by casinos will be much better than what we will have at our disposal, and it is very likely many successful sport bettors will find themselves losing their edge and will become losing sport bettors just like us.
I don't know why some people compare artificial intelligence with the normal human being in terms of gambling I know quite well that artificial intelligence come only give you something that is approximately to the same thing that a human being can give you body when you come in terms of gambling prediction and other programs that is involved gambling I don't think that artificial intelligence is best option to be used for anything that has to do with the gambling I think he using Man one should be the best option for us to use for gambling instead of using a bot that we don't know it functions

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July 25, 2024, 02:39:29 AM
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Irrespective of how smart an AI may seem, gambling is still a game that cannot be accurately predicted all the time, no matter how good your AI tool may seem. In casino games, the programme used in making the results are usually made to enable random result selections and it's code are always kept private so it can't be manipulated and used by programmers to get into their system. However in terms of sport betting, we all know how unpredictable the games might be sometimes, even at the last minute, changes could be made that will alter the results.
AI will never be able to do what gamblers want and the reason for this is simple, if a player can use AI against the casino, what makes the player think the casino cannot use AI against them instead? In fact I am sure casinos are already looking into it as we speak, and this will make it way harder for those that make sport bets to profit from it, as the AI used by casinos will be much better than what we will have at our disposal, and it is very likely many successful sport bettors will find themselves losing their edge and will become losing sport bettors just like us.
I don't know why some people compare artificial intelligence with the normal human being in terms of gambling I know quite well that artificial intelligence come only give you something that is approximately to the same thing that a human being can give you body when you come in terms of gambling prediction and other programs that is involved gambling I don't think that artificial intelligence is best option to be used for anything that has to do with the gambling I think he using Man one should be the best option for us to use for gambling instead of using a bot that we don't know it functions

AI can give you stats and ideas what are the advantages though in gambling there's no assurance that same thing will take place, even how good you analyze and how deep you research there's always upset that can happned, and same with you I also like to use my own knowledge instead of leaning with any AI information, I might use it when doing some research just to have an idea what are the factors that I can use in selecting games,

And  just the same with gambling experts or so-called experts I might use their ideas but I won't follow them directly as there's no guarantee cause if that's for sure they don't need small amount of money to earn but instead using their knowledge and they can go and make the house be empty handed, but surely that's not the real score they are asking for payment to make a sure earnings because win or lose they got your money and it's your call to take and risk your money both the payment you make and the actual bet amount that you'll going to use.

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July 25, 2024, 08:35:46 AM
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I don't know why some people compare artificial intelligence with the normal human being in terms of gambling I know quite well that artificial intelligence come only give you something that is approximately to the same thing that a human being can give you body when you come in terms of gambling prediction and other programs that is involved gambling I don't think that artificial intelligence is best option to be used for anything that has to do with the gambling I think he using Man one should be the best option for us to use for gambling instead of using a bot that we don't know it functions
That's because they see AI can helps them to analyze deeper than what they do so they rely on that AI. Besides that, AI can helps them to search for more information and could be more details because AI can gets the information fast and complete than what they do. So that's normal if they rely on AI to search for the data and analyze it for them so they can place their bet.

But they still needs to learn more about analysis in gambling so they don't have to rely on AI because from that learning, they can improves their skills to be better. Each people who use AI will their reason why they rely on AI to collecting the data and use that for their analysis. But other people will still believe to gambling experts prediction because they already see how that experts performance. Other people who doesn't depends on that experts will still use their skills to analyze the match.

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July 25, 2024, 07:29:13 PM
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And  just the same with gambling experts or so-called experts I might use their ideas but I won't follow them directly as there's no guarantee cause if that's for sure they don't need small amount of money to earn but instead using their knowledge and they can go and make the house be empty handed, but surely that's not the real score they are asking for payment to make a sure earnings because win or lose they got your money and it's your call to take and risk your money both the payment you make and the actual bet amount that you'll going to use.

There are lots of person who claims to be gambling experts in and create telegram channels where they give predictions, only for you to make payment before you can get a glimpse of their predictions. Irrespective of how they hype themselves, there are times where their predictions with as low as 2 odds still experience loses, that is to explain that nobody is above the table. Na matter how experienced you are, you'll still encounter loses as a gamble, the only difference between experienced smart gamblers from newbies is the ability to make a good risk management by know first their risk tolerance and working with it.

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July 25, 2024, 07:34:33 PM
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There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.

While AI has a lot of information, it is not necessary that AI will perform as an expert will do or even better. I know experts also work with previous matches and competitions from the club to decide what and how the future of such competition will pan out, and that's similar to what an AI prediction will do, however, there are some behaviors with respect to the previous matches that AI may not notice that will probably give an expert the hedge over the AI software. This is why I will still prefer to stick to the predictions made by an expert over whatever I will get from an AI if I have the option to choose from the two.

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July 25, 2024, 07:39:34 PM
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Gambling is a game of luck, be it sports betting or casinos games, I see a lot of people paying for 2 odds or 1.50 odds from so called betting experts forgetting that these people are not robots, anyone that gives you a prediction and tells you it 100 percent accurate is false. Anyone going into sports betting should understand football and betting strategies, it's better to rely on what you know than
Just paying for a prediction that is not guaranteed.

Even robots don't make 100% accurate predictions. Like you said, anyone going into sports betting should just learn the tactics and strategies of sports games and rely on what they know. Then they will be good. It's even simple to make predictions as long as the gambler pays attention to sports fixtures and knows the performance of clubs, the ability of players, etc. 

There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.
You are making a good point and it's more reason why I do not buy the idea of AIs in betting as many would think it would be better, there is nothing they would do that you can't do for yourselves. But AIs will make it easier for you as they can conclude on the preferred choices in a matter of seconds while it may take you several minutes to do. Aside from that, they can not do better than you as you also have access to the needed information online as well if you have the confidence.

As for the emotion, yes, they are better than us in that regard by nature, but I do not see a serious bettor who will be emotional about their options, especially in sports betting. There should only be a reasonable decision after the wide knowledge about the teams to be bet. Although I can't say of those who will be gambling the live matches, they could be emotional, which is why I avoid it. At the same time, I don't know what AIs can do better in this regard because the risk will always be high in live matches and so is the luck dependence.

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July 25, 2024, 09:57:00 PM
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Something that concerns the future or that has not yet happened cannot be confirmed accurately, but analyzing something based on possibilities or what we call predictions can help in preparing or making plans for action.
It is not recommended to trust predictions in the field of gambling, but predictions related to non-gambling types of gambling that do not prioritize luck such as sports betting can support making decisions based on data and experience.
It is true that any prediction doesn't work for gambling (casinos) and if the prediction stands for gambling sportsbook then prediction may work. The predictor must have to be well experienced and have a lot of data about the games, players, team, and so on to predict the match. Without proper knowledge, no prediction should be accepted.

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July 25, 2024, 10:16:18 PM
Last edit: July 25, 2024, 10:27:10 PM by Accardo
 #1108

Players always devalue the knowledge they are bound to receive by doing the analysis themselves. Such players want an easy peasy process guaranteed to be gotten through reliance on experts who are not far knowledgeable from them, with similar aim of extorting money from their victims. Those who admit working with experts as a straight forward strategy to maximizing their wins, are not prepared to become responsible players themselves. Laziness also restricts them from questioning the expert about how they manage to create prediction that nearly doesn't work at all times. Openly, it's preferable to predict without analyzing it, than paying an expert to do the analysis, we can't be sure if he actually did the necessary analysis work.

There are indeed some players who are not confident and doubt themselves and that's the human failing that keeps them from developing, even though it's true as you mean that he really doesn't know what's really behind it, those strategists from the prediction maker are also the same as him who are both guessing and don't know the final result, their predictions out of 10 may only be one or two correct and that's not even guaranteed anything in the prediction, it's very disappointing if it's me, but yes we can't blame those who have that mindset, they just have different principles from us.

Then, something intrinsical is going on in the player's mind, that doesn't allow him to have a rethink. An expert in any field is meant to win, often. These evidence of multiple losses is enough to convince such players that gambling wins can't be manipulated by experts. However, I can't conclude why they hardly think out of the box. But, it's simple to detect the devious scheme of these experts. Genuine gambling experts don't offer paid prediction services. Instead, they focus on advising players to stay responsible and implement responsible gambling strategies. Unfortunately, lies are too sweet in the ear. Nobody cares about the truth. Naive players think that the lies on game manipulation is the actual truth.

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July 25, 2024, 10:21:21 PM
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And  just the same with gambling experts or so-called experts I might use their ideas but I won't follow them directly as there's no guarantee cause if that's for sure they don't need small amount of money to earn but instead using their knowledge and they can go and make the house be empty handed, but surely that's not the real score they are asking for payment to make a sure earnings because win or lose they got your money and it's your call to take and risk your money both the payment you make and the actual bet amount that you'll going to use.

There are lots of person who claims to be gambling experts in and create telegram channels where they give predictions, only for you to make payment before you can get a glimpse of their predictions. Irrespective of how they hype themselves, there are times where their predictions with as low as 2 odds still experience loses, that is to explain that nobody is above the table. Na matter how experienced you are, you'll still encounter loses as a gamble, the only difference between experienced smart gamblers from newbies is the ability to make a good risk management by know first their risk tolerance and working with it.

I agree with you on this. Personally, I have encountered a lot of scammers who claim to be gambling experts because they are able to make some good analysis but at the end of the day when they are been paid they end up dropping games that will not turn green and when they are contacted for a refund, you will hear them say they will keep giving you games until you recover your money which you don't know when.

Those people you meet online don't have a special way of predicting games they do it the same way you do just that they have taken it as a business to scam people who think they can't win games unless they are predicted by the so called experts but once you understand that in gambling there's no expert you will never make the mistake of trusting anyone to send games for you to pay for it.

A lot of the so called experts takes their time to analyze games based of the head to head statistics but that alone can't win the games because they don't know what's going to happen right there on the pitch.

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July 25, 2024, 10:42:24 PM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?



No, if you loom across the board generally speaking they all lose as much as they win.  Now there might be a good run or 2 by certain individuals but they tend to go back to the mean and start losing some when people really start tailing them.  Problem is people hear about them when they are on a run and it's too late to tail them.  Suckers game.

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July 26, 2024, 09:32:05 AM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?



No, if you loom across the board generally speaking they all lose as much as they win.  Now there might be a good run or 2 by certain individuals but they tend to go back to the mean and start losing some when people really start tailing them.  Problem is people hear about them when they are on a run and it's too late to tail them.  Suckers game.

I agree, you shouldn't rely on others to make your own decisions. It's your choice how you spend a bit of your money for your own enjoyment. No one should be a voice of reason for your decision-making besides yourself.

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Gambling is a game of luck, be it sports betting or casinos games, I see a lot of people paying for 2 odds or 1.50 odds from so called betting experts forgetting that these people are not robots, anyone that gives you a prediction and tells you it 100 percent accurate is false.
Gambling experts are not the ones who will predict the outcome of a match or a bet and it will be hundred percent accurate. We all understand that gambling is an uncertain future left largely to luck. It is not possible to predict 100% accurate results with this unbiased probability.
In the last ICC ODI Cricket World Cup final match between Australia and India, I basically bet on India as per the experts and in that match the experts basically put India ahead but the experts prediction was not true in that match due to which my bet was completely lost. Since then I don't believe the predictions made by gambling experts for now.

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Gambling experts are not the ones who will predict the outcome of a match or a bet and it will be hundred percent accurate. We all understand that gambling is an uncertain future left largely to luck. It is not possible to predict 100% accurate results with this unbiased probability.
In the last ICC ODI Cricket World Cup final match between Australia and India, I basically bet on India as per the experts and in that match the experts basically put India ahead but the experts prediction was not true in that match due to which my bet was completely lost. Since then I don't believe the predictions made by gambling experts for now.
In addition to the opinion of forecasters, you should have your own opinion, which you should count on most of all, because you will be risking your money, and not the person who gives the forecast. I understand that some people want to trust the opinion of forecasters, because they think that they are more experienced in this. But in fact, they can do this just for the sake of views, for their own purposes. I do not see much point in trusting someone's opinion, rely only on yourself, otherwise it will be very difficult to learn anything.

 
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July 26, 2024, 12:23:12 PM
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Gambling experts are not the ones who will predict the outcome of a match or a bet and it will be hundred percent accurate. We all understand that gambling is an uncertain future left largely to luck. It is not possible to predict 100% accurate results with this unbiased probability.
In the last ICC ODI Cricket World Cup final match between Australia and India, I basically bet on India as per the experts and in that match the experts basically put India ahead but the experts prediction was not true in that match due to which my bet was completely lost. Since then I don't believe the predictions made by gambling experts for now.
In addition to the opinion of forecasters, you should have your own opinion, which you should count on most of all, because you will be risking your money, and not the person who gives the forecast. I understand that some people want to trust the opinion of forecasters, because they think that they are more experienced in this. But in fact, they can do this just for the sake of views, for their own purposes. I do not see much point in trusting someone's opinion, rely only on yourself, otherwise it will be very difficult to learn anything.

Good point, there are people who thinks that those forecasters are better than them but in reality they can also do the same if they just focus and learn the fundamentals, as there are factors that really affects the outcome of the game, though still luck is another thing to consider, forecasters are just claiming something but the accuracy can't be 100% maybe some of their predictions may fall to win but it's not always that same outcome will take place.

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July 26, 2024, 01:34:11 PM
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In addition to the opinion of forecasters, you should have your own opinion, which you should count on most of all, because you will be risking your money, and not the person who gives the forecast. I understand that some people want to trust the opinion of forecasters, because they think that they are more experienced in this. But in fact, they can do this just for the sake of views, for their own purposes. I do not see much point in trusting someone's opinion, rely only on yourself, otherwise it will be very difficult to learn anything.

Good point, there are people who thinks that those forecasters are better than them but in reality they can also do the same if they just focus and learn the fundamentals, as there are factors that really affects the outcome of the game, though still luck is another thing to consider, forecasters are just claiming something but the accuracy can't be 100% maybe some of their predictions may fall to win but it's not always that same outcome will take place.

I am sure that those who really put high trust in someone who is called a prediction expert are some of those who are really unfamiliar with what and how the concept of gambling actually works. This belief is like a kind of tradition that is naturally formed in the minds of ordinary people, but actually when we go back to understanding what and how the concept of winning and losing in gambling rationally works, then you will not really put too much trust in those who are called experts.

Because there will definitely be a lot of doubt in your mind when talking about experts in an activity that cannot be fully predicted accurately, and I am sure as you said above that whoever they are, even though they are called experts, it still does not guarantee that they will always be able to predict the game 100% accurately, meaning that there will always be certain times for them to experience defeat. In the end, this is actually a choice, it doesn't matter if you want to make their predictions a choice as long as you gamble without exceeding your limits in the sense of only betting the amount that you can afford, it's like the idea of ​​relying on luck and other people's skills to produce something.

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July 26, 2024, 01:57:08 PM
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In sport betting I doubt with gambling expert prediction exactly in top league such as Premier League, I don't know any expert have correct their prediction with last Premier League match between Fulham vs Arsenal. I sure the expert prediction is favorite Arsenal for winning the match but is difficult to predict the result match Fulham is the winner and likely the expert prediction not believe with Fulham success defeat Arsenal.
I think the same ideas earn money trough opening group channel to entry expert prediction and the finally based on our research when get match loss. I don't sure have accurate predicting in sport betting exactly in football match because many unpredictable result on every match although bet on top or favorite teams.
I have a feeling that predictions will exist forever, but not because they are special, but because there will always be those who will be interested in them. The funniest thing for me is that there are players who are ready to pay for this. It has long been clear that you can’t trust absolutely anyone when it comes to money, especially in betting. I can puzzle many with the simplest question: Why are betting predictors not rich? The correct answer: because they themselves never know, but only pass themselves off as experts so that their name does not leave the sports news feed. In addition to all this, these experts will definitely remind you on which site to bet. It turns out that they said who to bet on and where to bet, all that remains is for the player to give money ... and this, as you know, is the most important thing.

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July 26, 2024, 05:33:50 PM
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Players always devalue the knowledge they are bound to receive by doing the analysis themselves. Such players want an easy peasy process guaranteed to be gotten through reliance on experts who are not far knowledgeable from them, with similar aim of extorting money from their victims. Those who admit working with experts as a straight forward strategy to maximizing their wins, are not prepared to become responsible players themselves. Laziness also restricts them from questioning the expert about how they manage to create prediction that nearly doesn't work at all times. Openly, it's preferable to predict without analyzing it, than paying an expert to do the analysis, we can't be sure if he actually did the necessary analysis work.

There are indeed some players who are not confident and doubt themselves and that's the human failing that keeps them from developing, even though it's true as you mean that he really doesn't know what's really behind it, those strategists from the prediction maker are also the same as him who are both guessing and don't know the final result, their predictions out of 10 may only be one or two correct and that's not even guaranteed anything in the prediction, it's very disappointing if it's me, but yes we can't blame those who have that mindset, they just have different principles from us.

Then, something intrinsical is going on in the player's mind, that doesn't allow him to have a rethink. An expert in any field is meant to win, often. These evidence of multiple losses is enough to convince such players that gambling wins can't be manipulated by experts. However, I can't conclude why they hardly think out of the box. But, it's simple to detect the devious scheme of these experts. Genuine gambling experts don't offer paid prediction services. Instead, they focus on advising players to stay responsible and implement responsible gambling strategies. Unfortunately, lies are too sweet in the ear. Nobody cares about the truth. Naive players think that the lies on game manipulation is the actual truth.

Yes I also do not deny that there may be some experts who share advice or knowledge in gambling or even signals to make entries in gambling, but it is very rare, even almost nonexistent because I have never found it during my gambling so far.
And on average what we encounter is the cunning scheme of certain parties to deceive many people with the lure of victory, and that is what attracts many people, even though they fall into the trap.

Yes, I agree with you more, that the real experts provide advice and procedures for responsible gambling, both money management and other things like that to make gambling safe and will not make other gamblers fall into the trap of bad gambling or excessive addiction.

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July 26, 2024, 06:08:33 PM
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I am sure that those who really put high trust in someone who is called a prediction expert are some of those who are really unfamiliar with what and how the concept of gambling actually works. This belief is like a kind of tradition that is naturally formed in the minds of ordinary people, but actually when we go back to understanding what and how the concept of winning and losing in gambling rationally works, then you will not really put too much trust in those who are called experts.

Because there will definitely be a lot of doubt in your mind when talking about experts in an activity that cannot be fully predicted accurately, and I am sure as you said above that whoever they are, even though they are called experts, it still does not guarantee that they will always be able to predict the game 100% accurately, meaning that there will always be certain times for them to experience defeat. In the end, this is actually a choice, it doesn't matter if you want to make their predictions a choice as long as you gamble without exceeding your limits in the sense of only betting the amount that you can afford, it's like the idea of ​​relying on luck and other people's skills to produce something.
Expert gamblers? Those guys are full of shit. They market control in a chance game. Like those weathermen who promise sunshine but leave you drenched. Betting is chaotic, therefore taming it will disappoint. While it's tempting to believe someone has the perfect recipe to beat the house, that's just wishful thinking. The true risk is how you spend your time and money

Trying to find "experts" is pointless. Spend your money on yourself instead of their hollow promises. Discover new skills, knowledge, and personal growth. The only guaranteed thing in the world

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July 26, 2024, 06:26:13 PM
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I have a feeling that predictions will exist forever, but not because they are special, but because there will always be those who will be interested in them. The funniest thing for me is that there are players who are ready to pay for this. It has long been clear that you can’t trust absolutely anyone when it comes to money, especially in betting. I can puzzle many with the simplest question: Why are betting predictors not rich? The correct answer: because they themselves never know, but only pass themselves off as experts so that their name does not leave the sports news feed.

You are absolutely right, my friend. I do not think that people will stop relying on predictions because there are people who believe so much in them that they cannot make predictions on their own, and therefore they are always looking for places where they can buy them. Some people think that gambling can make them rich, and because of this conviction, they can start to rely on predictions. 

Those gambling experts that make and sell predictions are supposed to be very rich if they can actually make huge profits from their own predictions too, but they have not. I expect those who buy predictions to think about it. 

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July 26, 2024, 06:28:17 PM
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Because there will definitely be a lot of doubt in your mind when talking about experts in an activity that cannot be fully predicted accurately, and I am sure as you said above that whoever they are, even though they are called experts, it still does not guarantee that they will always be able to predict the game 100% accurately, meaning that there will always be certain times for them to experience defeat. In the end, this is actually a choice, it doesn't matter if you want to make their predictions a choice as long as you gamble without exceeding your limits in the sense of only betting the amount that you can afford, it's like the idea of ​​relying on luck and other people's skills to produce something.
You are right, if we correctly choose experienced experts and their prediction history is almost perfect reaching 90% accuracy but they offer high prices to members, some of their predictions may produce high chances of winning but we must prioritize our skills by combining expert predictions for the final decision to determine the bet . However, there are no accurate predictions, so prioritize your analysis to predict bets and add expert predictions for analysis or supporting factors to find chances of winning. Even though you are very sure of your chances of winning with predictions, you still have to set limits to avoid the risk of loss, because gambling results will not be certain with predictions and speculation, so anticipatory steps need to be prepared to overcome losses.
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