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January 26, 2024, 02:14:16 PM
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Let me imagine that I'm this child father. Being a man, it's going to be a bit harder to put myself in the role of the mother Wink
I'd be angry of course and I'd feel like trust is lost between us because I'd for sure give him the money if he wanted to gamble. I'd probably make him work for it, do some chores, and then I'd let him do whatever he wants with it, so that when he loses it he'll feel the loss of time and effort he put into getting it. That's how children learn - through experience.
What would in case he won? The same. I'd be angry he stole from me, try to teach him about trust and honesty. Then I'd tell him not to blow it on the things he doesn't need and see how he does.
That's the right approach and I would do the same if I were in the position of the mother. Even if he won millions of dollars in the process, stealing is still not a good thing to do. A child learns from his/her environment and maybe he was forced to do this because he saw someone do the same. I would not get mad about the amount because any amount is still stealing and this could be taken as he grows which is not a good thing either.
It's not about the money but what he did, he could have asked for money but chose not to do so. Also, he should be checked if he is a gambling addict because those who are addicted are the only ones who could do such a feat.
It will be a good learning point for the kid if he is disciplined, perhaps grounding him will be enough and see to it that he won't do anything funny inside the house like pursuing to still gamble using the internet.
Now if he won millions, I'd say he should take care of that money and not waste it to gambling more. Investing will be a better idea.

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January 26, 2024, 02:18:19 PM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
First of all, stealing is stealing and there is no justification to what the boy did but in the case of assuming that he miraculously won millions of dollars, we all would agree that the mum would definitely be happy but the probability of the boy winning that money is small so stealing that money is definitely going to get him punished and that's my own opinion as I don't know what others will do.

Just a case study, imagine if the boy was not caught I believe he would have stolen another one again or if the money he stole he took from someone else other than his mum then the punishment will be more so there is no justification to the fact that he actually stole the money.

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January 26, 2024, 02:27:27 PM
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Let me imagine that I'm this child father. Being a man, it's going to be a bit harder to put myself in the role of the mother Wink
I'd be angry of course and I'd feel like trust is lost between us because I'd for sure give him the money if he wanted to gamble. I'd probably make him work for it, do some chores, and then I'd let him do whatever he wants with it, so that when he loses it he'll feel the loss of time and effort he put into getting it. That's how children learn - through experience.
What would in case he won? The same. I'd be angry he stole from me, try to teach him about trust and honesty. Then I'd tell him not to blow it on the things he doesn't need and see how he does.
That's the right approach and I would do the same if I were in the position of the mother. Even if he won millions of dollars in the process, stealing is still not a good thing to do. A child learns from his/her environment and maybe he was forced to do this because he saw someone do the same. I would not get mad about the amount because any amount is still stealing and this could be taken as he grows which is not a good thing either.
It's not about the money but what he did, he could have asked for money but chose not to do so. Also, he should be checked if he is a gambling addict because those who are addicted are the only ones who could do such a feat.
It will be a good learning point for the kid if he is disciplined, perhaps grounding him will be enough and see to it that he won't do anything funny inside the house like pursuing to still gamble using the internet.
Now if he won millions, I'd say he should take care of that money and not waste it to gambling more. Investing will be a better idea.
Sorry to say but I think you are wrong when you say or believe that only gambling addicts are prone to stealing money for gambling purposes, if you believe this, then it simply means you don't know for sure what pressure is, and what it can do or lead a person into.

Have you ever been in a situation where arsenal is to play against Manchester united, and you are very convinced that Arsenal will beat  Manchester united, and the odds on this match is very juicy too, immediately, this high desire to bet on that match grows in you, knowing fully well how much you could win, you desire to really bet on that match, but unfortunately, you don't have money, not a penny in your pocket, and at this point, the pressure in you is very high, I tell you that when a gambler arrives that such a stage, he or she have high chances of stealing, whether he or she is addicted to gambling or not, this is when we hear gamblers caught in the act of stealing say that, they had intentions of returning the money after they have won.

So, pressure does lead some gamblers into stealing, not just addiction to gambling or so to say.

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January 26, 2024, 02:36:02 PM
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Actually it is a point to find out what forced child to commit such action. Reason is simple, to prevent such action to be repeated. Without talking and investigation the problem, nothing good will come out. There can be various reasons why the kid has stolen money to gamble. From being afraid to ask money directly, to having financial issues. What if the kid is weak, afraid to tell parents he was bullied at school and now he owes money bullies. So he decided to gamble to earn them fast, give money to bullies and later silently return stolen money. What if the situation is like that. Then the problem is not in gambling, but in bullies and the kid have mental issues. And instead of punishing him, he needs to be helped.

That is why I root for talking, discussing, explaining, instead of banning, forbidding, punishing when we talk about parenting and education.
I agree with your argument that if a child has reached the age of 18+ and he no longer asks his parents for money to gamble, but financially he must be free from dependence on all costs from his parents if he wants to gamble, at least he must have his own income so that free from things without restrictions from anyone.

We are discussing the case of a child who has reached the initial stage of gambling addiction, then parents must carry out an investigation that led to his introduction to gambling and parents must remind him not to carry out the same action, unless he is of adult age and has income from his job, if he are still under the age of 18+ so they are still under parental supervision in all their daily activities. So even though he has won millions of dollars in bets, he will spend more than that if his gambling actions are allowed and not stopped immediately.

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January 26, 2024, 02:42:59 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

It makes no difference what the outcome of that game is; parents should not encourage or tolerate stolen money from their children, regardless of what the child used the money for or what he stands to gain in return if he used it for something else. He will be punished because this is an extremely bad example that, if tolerated today, could lead to something even worse tomorrow. When you're happy because he won a million, it means he won some. When he runs out of money to play another game, he'll look for a way to steal from you again, hoping to win another million, and that’s how the process will continue.

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January 26, 2024, 02:50:56 PM
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I'd be angry of course and I'd feel like trust is lost between us because I'd for sure give him the money if he wanted to gamble. I'd probably make him work for it, do some chores, and then I'd let him do whatever he wants with it so that when he loses it he'll feel the loss of time and effort he put into getting it. That's how children learn - through experience.

Giving a child money to gamble means encouraging the child to gamble. What happens to the days you don't give him money to gamble? Secondly, the child might not be contented with the money you give to him to gamble since he will always face the urge to gamble more. Sorry to say, no responsible father will give his son money to gamble even if he does all the chores in the world. There are better ways to compensate for a child's effort. If a child stole to gamble it is reasonable to discipline the child first of all and then inquire from the child what's his motivation for gambling.

Maybe he needs money to buy a PlayStation or something he desires. What I will do is to buy the thing for him and tell him never to gamble again. Anyone who desires to gamble must do so with his finances. As far as I am concerned, a dependant has no busy gambling because it will amount to throwing away the money of his principal.

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January 26, 2024, 03:16:02 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

Your son's character is your success and your failure, even if your son is successful in gambling it will not stop you from feeling disheartened because stealing is a crime punishable by a jail term and fine and your son will go to jail eventually if he developed the habit of stealing, you have to take the matter into your hands if your son is still a minor by putting him in a rehabilitation center, even if you spend money it's better to help him cure of his addiction and his stealing.
It's still not yet for young people to change their ways, the parents just need to intervene.

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January 26, 2024, 04:14:32 PM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I would blame the parents in this case because something happened in their relationship that led to their children being drawn to gambling. Moreover, I will not support stealing money from parents' pockets and betting with that money. Especially in this case, these small bad stealing habits can turn children into a big theft. However, the father or mother of the child who steals is directly or indirectly involved in gambling which has made the child addicted to gambling since childhood. I will always blame those parents for gambling in front of their children. Gambling should never be done in front of children because after seeing this gambling, children will become curiously interested in gambling from a young age and if they can't manage gambling money at a young age, they will steal money from their parents' pockets and gamble like what happened to your friend.

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January 26, 2024, 04:39:57 PM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
First of all, stealing is stealing and there is no justification to what the boy did but in the case of assuming that he miraculously won millions of dollars, we all would agree that the mum would definitely be happy but the probability of the boy winning that money is small so stealing that money is definitely going to get him punished and that's my own opinion as I don't know what others will do.

Just a case study, imagine if the boy was not caught I believe he would have stolen another one again or if the money he stole he took from someone else other than his mum then the punishment will be more so there is no justification to the fact that he actually stole the money.

that could happen. even if their sons stole money to gamble and got a big win, I don't think the boys would be that innocent, maybe they would hide their big winnings, because they weren't ready if they answered that it was the result of gambling, but it could also be they told their mother that the big win was made from gambling where they stole her mother's money to use as capital, I think her mother would also be happy with the win she got, but she would warn her not to do that bad thing (stealing).

Well, the fear is that, if they steal money to gamble and the end result is defeat, maybe they could do the same thing and this could happen to them and continue in the long term, then this could endanger them, maybe by making them more courageous. of course they will steal something else that is bigger than stealing money, so the point is that stealing is still wrong. it's not allowed. especially for gambling capital, it's very bad.

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January 26, 2024, 04:46:04 PM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

That's quite a situation it's understandable that the mum would be upset and disappointed, by the attitude portrayed by her son for stealing her money especially if she worked hard to save that money. Losing a significant amount can be really disheartening. As for whether she would react differently if her son had won a big prize it's hard to say for sure. People reaction can vary depends on who is in such situation, I have had of a situation were a young boy won big on sports betting (virtual game) and it caused division in the family, the dad was not in support of him winning through gambling but his mum and others supported him. It's possible she will be happy and excited if her son had won, money can have big impact on our emotions.
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January 26, 2024, 05:52:35 PM
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Personally, I approach these "shouldn't have done" things in two different way, there is a big difference between doing something they shouldn't do and only hurt themselves, and then there are mistakes where they did something that could have consequences for other people. Gambling is one where they only hurt themselves, their own situation.

This could be avoided by trying to give them more responsibility, and even if they fail, then giving another one and just keep giving them as much as possible even if they fail. In a very very very simple example, tell them to go wash the dishes, if they break your China, tell them to mop the floors, if they fail, then tell them to clean out the garbage, obviously those are bad examples, but that is the main mindset. Keep them occupied.

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January 27, 2024, 08:04:50 PM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

That's quite a situation it's understandable that the mum would be upset and disappointed, by the attitude portrayed by her son for stealing her money especially if she worked hard to save that money. Losing a significant amount can be really disheartening. As for whether she would react differently if her son had won a big prize it's hard to say for sure. People reaction can vary depends on who is in such situation, I have had of a situation were a young boy won big on sports betting (virtual game) and it caused division in the family, the dad was not in support of him winning through gambling but his mum and others supported him. It's possible she will be happy and excited if her son had won, money can have big impact on our emotions.

Without a doubt, it is a fact that things are done very badly by the son, and it is obvious that the mother feels bad because what they have is a Disappointment, but even so, she has to talk to him quickly to see that what he did is too bad. because it is something that should not be repeated again and it is something that we as parents must Emphasize to our children ,   you cannot be doing things all the time, you have to consider many things so that they do not happen again and within these things are the understanding and the treatment you give your son, for me yes, he loses all confidence, the truth is I wouldn't make things so easy for him, but it's something we always do to have something I might think that the mother has to look for A way to see that your son feels repentant, and that he somehow pays him for what he did, even if he decides to work or something, I would tell him that money is not the problem and that just as he had the audacity to steal Well, if you have the courage, you should pay because it is the only way you learn the Lesson , because you know that the money you have to put into anything must be earned by Working , because Nothing is free on the Road and much Less that you have to pay to steal.

In this order of things , we are people who are Intelligent People who Have to do things right , and we cannot invent that we can do certain things without it having an impact on daily life, that is why we , as good players , Should know what to do , These types of acts must be immediately Restored in their entirety, when he Finishes paying the money that he lost or Stole from his own Mother, he will know that money represents many things, and that Above all it must always be Under the total Control of him. A person who has it, apart from the fact that She is her own Mother , has to Learn that Such an act should not be done to anyone.

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January 27, 2024, 08:12:14 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

Your son's character is your success and your failure, even if your son is successful in gambling it will not stop you from feeling disheartened because stealing is a crime punishable by a jail term and fine and your son will go to jail eventually if he developed the habit of stealing, you have to take the matter into your hands if your son is still a minor by putting him in a rehabilitation center, even if you spend money it's better to help him cure of his addiction and his stealing.
It's still not yet for young people to change their ways, the parents just need to intervene.
As responsible parent, there's still time to work it out with your son and try to guide then the right way, like what you just mentioned,  if the kid develops this kind of a bad habit, stealing just to continue playing chances that he might not just doing it to you but he might do it as well to other people,  causing you more problem if he got caught and jailed in because of stealing issue.

While still manageable to work on it, try to communicate with your kid and explain everything,  especially the possibility that they might get addicted and create more problems.

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January 27, 2024, 08:29:35 PM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

That's quite a situation it's understandable that the mum would be upset and disappointed, by the attitude portrayed by her son for stealing her money especially if she worked hard to save that money. Losing a significant amount can be really disheartening. As for whether she would react differently if her son had won a big prize it's hard to say for sure. People reaction can vary depends on who is in such situation, I have had of a situation were a young boy won big on sports betting (virtual game) and it caused division in the family, the dad was not in support of him winning through gambling but his mum and others supported him. It's possible she will be happy and excited if her son had won, money can have big impact on our emotions.
I suppose you have a point, many people have the tendency to judge a situation based only on the results, so if the son had won a big amount of money it is possible his mom would not be mad at him as long as he was willing to share the spoils with her, after all it was her money and according to what I know on most casinos if you were to bet with money that is not yours, the money won goes to the person that owns the money, but I am of the opinion that regardless of the result the son did something wrong and consequences must fall on him.

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January 27, 2024, 09:16:38 PM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

That's quite a situation it's understandable that the mum would be upset and disappointed, by the attitude portrayed by her son for stealing her money especially if she worked hard to save that money. Losing a significant amount can be really disheartening. As for whether she would react differently if her son had won a big prize it's hard to say for sure. People reaction can vary depends on who is in such situation, I have had of a situation were a young boy won big on sports betting (virtual game) and it caused division in the family, the dad was not in support of him winning through gambling but his mum and others supported him. It's possible she will be happy and excited if her son had won, money can have big impact on our emotions.
I suppose you have a point, many people have the tendency to judge a situation based only on the results, so if the son had won a big amount of money it is possible his mom would not be mad at him as long as he was willing to share the spoils with her, after all it was her money and according to what I know on most casinos if you were to bet with money that is not yours, the money won goes to the person that owns the money, but I am of the opinion that regardless of the result the son did something wrong and consequences must fall on him.
If it turns out that it is really that a winning game or bet then for sure most likely her mother wont really be ended up on scolding him. Lets be honest on here, on which it is really that normal that getting angry or disappointment is less likely to happen since we do know that the result turns out to be positive or have that money on which it is really that sad if we do speak about parenting or
tolerating bad doing then this is something that shouldnt really be done. You should really be scolding him or your child on what he had done. Stealing is stealing no matter how small or big it is
as long it do involved stealing which its always been that bad.

If this case turns out to be happening in my case then disciplinary actions would really be applied but well each parent would really be that
different on where there are who do tolerate and  there are ones who do make out those disciplinary actions.
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January 27, 2024, 09:30:22 PM
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The easiest thing in the world is to just let them off with it and just never leave cash around.  The problem with that is they essentially think to just try stealing from others, a few kids may correct themselves but the majority will need some guidance.   If someone starts making bad mistakes in the beginning of life it may end up being their whole life to learn the lesson by themselves, it does depend on the individual to really say so its not a general rule that can be given in a thread. Personally I would not expect do nothing and have this turn out off, theres a big danger in letting kids off too easy.

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January 27, 2024, 11:07:06 PM
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It doesn't matter if he wins (or not) but because it was stolen money, he should know the consequences he made. It should not be tolerated as it was already shown that something worse thing to happen if just ignore. As a parent, it was our role to guide our kids to the right direction, not by letting them do even though it was wrong. If does it to his father, he could also do it to other people, and for the sake of gambling, he should be stopped before anything else happens someday. A responsible parents couldn't let that thing happen.
You said well @Kelvinid, i think it is of two factors that such childs parents should be battling about to fix the childs misconducts up which are stealing and gambling.
Stealing already is a bad painted image of being called a thief and if a child could steal from the parents and It is tolerated to be a domestic (in house) stealing, then it should be expected that the child would advance and likely to accept steal a habitual carrier.
His uncontrollable gambling emotional habits happens to be a disasterous resultants opting the childe desperacies to illegal indulgences to obtain the funds just to stake on the board or gambling.
So, as earlier the parents stands by for such error to be corrected, is the better they could get their child fixed up to do away  with such nonsensical  acts for further occurances.

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February 03, 2024, 09:01:40 PM
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The easiest thing in the world is to just let them off with it and just never leave cash around.  The problem with that is they essentially think to just try stealing from others, a few kids may correct themselves but the majority will need some guidance.   If someone starts making bad mistakes in the beginning of life it may end up being their whole life to learn the lesson by themselves, it does depend on the individual to really say so its not a general rule that can be given in a thread. Personally I would not expect do nothing and have this turn out off, theres a big danger in letting kids off too easy.
And that is precisely the danger those actions represent, since this is not only about the money that was stolen, after all if a son is willing to steal money from her own mother that basically means that he is willing to steal money from everyone else, and unless that kind of behavior is corrected immediately then this could lead that person to go through a life of crime, a life that is full of perils and that very rarely ends well.

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February 03, 2024, 09:38:24 PM
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The easiest thing in the world is to just let them off with it and just never leave cash around.  The problem with that is they essentially think to just try stealing from others, a few kids may correct themselves but the majority will need some guidance.   If someone starts making bad mistakes in the beginning of life it may end up being their whole life to learn the lesson by themselves, it does depend on the individual to really say so its not a general rule that can be given in a thread. Personally I would not expect do nothing and have this turn out off, theres a big danger in letting kids off too easy.

I believe it is not that easy, honestly. It is not the easiest thing in the world. We are talking about a very delicate thing which would change the future and the behavior of the children in the future.
I would be more in favor of letting know the children that what he did was completely wrong and punish him/her accordingly.
You know, when comes to children and their future, here in my country there used to be some programs to show the youth how life in prisons is. Usually that would deter young people from getting involved in crime.
One is not supposed to underestimate the impact both a mixture of gambling and thief can provoke in people.

It is not about just not leaving cash lying around again, since one the person realizes they cannot find the money to steal from in that household, then they will try to find in other places, in those places people may not be as kind to them as you,.they may even physically assault as revenge for stealing.
Better safe than sorry, better to correct in time.

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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

It is a human nature to let go of a simple error if the result outweighs the error a million times.  Obviously, the reason why the mother gets angry is because the son stole the money and lost it to gambling.  In your given question, since the kid can give back the stolen money with interest,  I am sure even stranger will forgive the kid and will receive the money with a smile.  Probably that stranger can even hug the kid that gives back the money with huge interest.  What more if you are the mother, for sure the kid will probably give you the whole winning amount.  So is there a reason to get angry in such a situation that you asked?

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