Use of AI on Bitcoin talk

[Mia Chloe]

The use of AI on Bitcoin talk is against the rules of this forum . Of course part of the rules on this forum is not to make use of AI to generate posts or to use AI copied text as your own or original text. But how strict is it?

Posts appear more presentable here when proper paraphrasing and punctuations are used. Unfortunately, not everyone here on Bitcoin talk is a native English speaker or writer hence some persons may find some difficulties paraphrasing or punctuating their write-ups.

Now why did I create this thread?
Recently I came across a post in the beginners and help section by a newbie whose English was not ok. Now what drove me into thinking was the reply of one of the forum's most reputable member; BlackHatCoiner. Here was his reply ;
Re: New member as you notice there he mentioned the op rather use an AI to punctuate his posts than leave them poorly structured.

Now my confusion is Although the forum says not to use AI content does that mean that paraphrasing or punctuating with AI is allowed?

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[Nwada001]

Now my confusion is Although the forum says not to use AI content does that mean that paraphrasing with AI is allowed?

There is a difference between using AI-generated text to make posts on the forum and using tools like QuillBot, Grammarly, and many other online English tools to enhance your writing skills.
 
All the tools is helping you to do is put your grammar in writing sense and not ask the AI to write for you.

And another form of paraphrasing that is not allowed in the forum is when you copy someone else's work, which is also considered plagiarism, and use AI to paraphrase it into something else. Such use of AI is abusing and trying to outsmart people, but in the area of grammar and sentence correction, I consider it useful.

[_act_]

Now my confusion is Although the forum says not to use AI content does that mean that paraphrasing or punctuating with AI is allowed?

Using AI to correct your English? That is not plagiarism and that not the wrong use of AI on this forum. You can use AI to make your English better and well structured and that is not against the rules of this forum because all the writings are from you and not from elsewhere.

[ABCbits]

Relevant discussion thread, It is bad to use AI to help my post quality improve?. Anyway, what frowned upon is using AI which generate text (not AI which fix writing mistake of text written by yourself).

[Hatchy]

The use of AI on Bitcoin talk is against the rules of this forum . Of course part of the rules on this forum is not to make use of AI to generate posts or to use AI copied text as your own or original text. But how strict is it?

Can you possibly point out on where that rule was stated? For all I know about use of Ai, it's highly discouraged as it will not help you but reduce your ability to comprehend and create good writing. The only rule of BTT that talks about the use of Ai is rule 27.

27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.

With the post you linked by BlackHatCoiner, it clearly shows that he was trying to tell the op to use Ai or online Grammer tools( similar to ai) in constructing his grammatical sentence and not encouraging the use of Ai to creating post. So you should be clear about that.

[criptoevangelista]

I am of the following opinion: if a person needs to use an AI tool to interact on a forum, they seriously need medical help, as they must have serious mental problems to not be able to interact with another human being.


Note: English is not my native language, but with a little effort you can talk to everyone without any major problems. The most important thing is the content of the message.

[alastantiger]

Now my confusion is Although the forum says not to use AI content does that mean that paraphrasing or punctuating with AI is allowed?

As long as AI is not doing your writing for you, which is wrong and totally unacceptable, you can use AI to fix your grammar errors so that it makes sense and becomes totally comprehensible to your target audience. Some users are first attracted to your writing style before its contents.

[nutildah]

There was one high profile, Legendary member whose posts were found to be generated using AI. When I asked them about it, that was their explanation: they were using ChatGPT to improve their spelling and grammar. While the member's posts weren't deleted, I don't recommend doing this as the result is still sometimes thoughts and ideas that aren't your own.

When you do this, you are taking credit for writing that wasn't done by you. IMO this is dishonest and no different than plagiarism. Instead, as was already recommended a few posts above, you should use Grammarly which doesn't totally alter the intent or content of the post.

I imagine there will soon be a day when use of ChatGPT is considered plagiarism and potentially a ban-able offense (even if just a temp ban for first-time offenders, as opposed to permanent ban). This is because the forum is currently enduring an onslaught of AI spammers who aren't contributing anything of value, and it is likely to only get worse as time goes on.

Use Grammarly. Force yourself to learn the nuances of the English language. Take time to put thought and effort into your posts. Perhaps most importantly, if you don't have anything useful or interesting to say about a topic, remember that you don't have to post in it at all! Simply move on to another topic that is more mentally inspiring.

[General_Bitcoin]

I am of the following opinion: if a person needs to use an AI tool to interact on a forum, they seriously need medical help, as they must have serious mental problems to not be able to interact with another human being.


Note: English is not my native language, but with a little effort you can talk to everyone without any major problems. The most important thing is the content of the message.

I am new here with having not too much knowledge and rules of this forum but till I found this is one of the best reply for AI users because it's never been ideal to have things like these while you are talking to other humans.

English is not my native language also, but I am trying my best to have things which others can understand easily and without any problem.

[Jawhead999]

The key is don't cheat.

If someone really don't how to speak English, they can use google translate, grammarly, AI etc, and give a credit if you use an automation tool. Honestly I don't care if it's just a newbie or user without signature, most of them ask a genuine question and only want to know the solution, except they creating so called guide or wall of text to make his post looks high quality.

But if he's participating in signature campaign, that's a different case.

[encryptogon]

For punctuation you can use Grammarly. It is good.
Use your own words to paraphrase what you have read.
Using AI for any purpose, either paraphrasing or post writing is not right and you should not use AI to make your posts look fancy.
If you are not good in English > learn

[Upgrade00]

If someone really don't how to speak English, they can use google translate, grammarly, AI etc, and give a credit if you use an automation tool.

You don't even have to credit the automation tool. It's your content, you put in into the system and it adds punctuations and other grammatical changes to make the write up easier to read and a the same time boosts the writer's understanding of the English language. A double win.

If they want to credit the took for other non native speakers, then sure. But they don't have to do so to avoid any form of punishment.

[Lucius]

The use of AI on Bitcoin talk is against the rules of this forum . Of course part of the rules on this forum is not to make use of AI to generate posts or to use AI copied text as your own or original text. But how strict is it?

There is no such rule, otherwise hundreds of users who were caught violating that non-existent rule would be permanently banned. The whole thing is still in the gray zone, because the tools used to detect AI are not always precise and reliable, but I still think that the administration should set some rules and equate the use of AI to generate posts with plagiarism.

Posts appear more presentable here when proper paraphrasing and punctuations are used. Unfortunately, not everyone here on Bitcoin talk is a native English speaker or writer hence some persons may find some difficulties paraphrasing or punctuating their write-ups.

Most of the users are not from the English-speaking area, but this has never been a major problem for them in communication - especially since the forum existed ten years before AI chat bots appeared. What I read mostly from users from Africa is that they have very strange ideas about AI, but it's just wrong no matter how someone presents it.

Using AI to "beautify" your posts is just one small level below plagiarism, but in essence it doesn't make much difference.

[348Judah]

The use of AI on Bitcoin talk is against the rules of this forum.

No it's not against the rules but if you make use of it, you're likely to get tagged for posting contents written from AI bots.

Of course part of the rules on this forum is not to make use of AI to generate posts or to use AI copied text as your own or original text. But how strict is it?

You can make use of of the dictionary or google in finding the correct meaning or interpretation for any word you're interested to use in making a post to express your view, but not when you're making a direct copy and paste without referencing it, most of the organizations here as well will like to employ someone that post from his ability and not for your dependency on bots systems, so it's rather on the signature campaigns rules and not the forum rules not to use AI.

[Churchillvv]

From your reference BlackHatCoiner just made a good clarification to a newbie who was trying to pass on information, but because he's not a good writer and English is not his native language, he wrote things that weren't understandable, so the legendary members advised him to always use AI to improve his post quality or English in order for people to comprehend the content more.

There is a big difference between using AI to generate a comment or post and correcting the grammar in your original post. When you use AI to correct the grammar, it doesn't change the content, but it enhances the reading and understanding of your audience. It's more like you should think and write from your head, not a bot writing for you. Now know that AI-generated content is frowned at, but using its tools to correct or improve the readability of your audience is advised.

You can now go ahead and lock the thread because I believe your doubt has been cleared.

[joker_josue]

To summarize in a simple way what has already been said in previous posts:

Correct use of IA in the forum: Use AI to translate a text that is written by you, in order to be more efficient than other translation tools.

Incorrect use of IA on the forum: Ask the AI to create a text about a subject, question or something else, and then copy this generated text and make a post.

[Faisal2202]

Now my confusion is Although the forum says not to use AI content does that mean that paraphrasing or punctuating with AI is allowed?

If you are using AI tools to punctuate your paragraphs or to remove any grammatical mistakes then it is almost equals to using Grammarly and other similar tools, because these grammar correction tools also work on the same principle and besides what forum rules say, I say, removal of grammatical mistakes is necessary because with them you can't convey your message clearly. Besides grammatical mistakes, we also make spelling mistakes and they have to be correct also.

For example, I have installed the Grammarly extension and whenever I write some word's spelling wrong it auto-corrects them and saves me time. This becomes handy in all cases like for spelling and grammar correction also. So, I don't think it would be wrong to use AI to erase any grammatical, or spelling mistakes out of it, even you can use AI to gain knowledge about some topics, for example, when I come to learn about some new term in crypto I rush to AI and tell it to teach me about this topic like a child.

PS: AI has become a part of life so thanks for asking this question.

[suzanne5223]

The use of AI on Bitcoin talk is against the rules of this forum.

No it's not against the rules but if you make use of it, you're likely to get tagged for posting contents written from AI bots.

It's against the rules. There are official and unofficial rules on this forum but since the campaign manager has adopted the restriction of user posting AI content it is technically a rule. Besides, if people who are guilty of using are red-tagged and put on the campaign manager Blacklist then we should see it as a rule.

so it's rather on the signature campaigns rules and not the forum rules not to use AI.

Yes, it is on campaign rules but it's still applicable to the forum rules because there's no way people will use AI-generated content and escape plagiarism.

[tranthidung]

For punctuation you can use Grammarly. It is good.

It is a good practice and can help you to sharpen your writing skill.

Use your own words to paraphrase what you have read.

You don't have to paraphrase what you read as your work to change someone's intelligent content to your own content. During the paraphrasing process, you will distort meaning of original content. You can use quote block and source link to quote the original content, then input your own idea for discussion on that content.

[GUIDE] Plagiarism and how to avoid it.
[TIPS] to avoid plagiarism
Text spinning/disguised plagiarism
New sort of plagiarism

[Saisher]

Now my confusion is Although the forum says not to use AI content does that mean that paraphrasing or punctuating with AI is allowed?

If you're using a correction tool the input and the essence of the meaning of the words are still yours, if you're using an AI everything is produced by AI, and its not your idea it is the AI idea and it will not reflect your character in your post but the AI, people here are very observant they know if you changed your posting behavior like when you rarely post from one section then you suddenly become an expert on that section, or there is a slight flaw on your post and suddenly it becomes perfect.