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[notocactus]

You are trying to find an alternative method to fix your problem, and using a VPN in general is always risky. Since you have no idea about the TOS of the certain provider, that's the risk you're taking, and you should be ready for it. Besides, it's just a free spin, so you'll lose nothing (aside from the opportunity to win extra money) since it's just free.

I'm just curious though, since it's already suggested, has anybody done this already and not faced any problems from the casino?

VPN usage can be against the casino's Terms of Service but if it is not, it still is against Terms of Service of the platform's partners like game providers. Like you said, it takes time to check that information and chance to miss information you want to find, is high.

If so, then it might be worth a try.

It might not worth a try, if you ask me. Minimize risk is the best approach for a long term safety of your account and your fund too, not only on MetaWin but also other platforms.

You can make appeal if a punishment, when happens, on your account is unfair, inaccurate in your opinion, but this process takes time and I am sure it is headache for you too. I would like to have peace and avoid potential problems as best as possible.

[Haunebu]

So yeah I understand what you are trying to say here since we are using crypto currencies which is different from fiat when it comes to legality. I think they choose to adhere on this rules since its what requires by their license provider.

Their hands might be tied due to their license if they want to operate legally with it.

Your point is completely valid. The licenses definitely tie them down to a certain extent thanks to which they are never completely decentralised and have to enforce these rules, but they should find a better middleground in my opinion.

They should take better advantage of cryptocurrencies in order to provide more freedom to their customers and adhere to the laws simultaneously.

[Slow death]

So yeah I understand what you are trying to say here since we are using crypto currencies which is different from fiat when it comes to legality. I think they choose to adhere on this rules since its what requires by their license provider.

Their hands might be tied due to their license if they want to operate legally with it.

Your point is completely valid. The licenses definitely tie them down to a certain extent thanks to which they are never completely decentralised and have to enforce these rules, but they should find a better middleground in my opinion.

They should take better advantage of cryptocurrencies in order to provide more freedom to their customers and adhere to the laws simultaneously.

talking about this part of giving people more freedom in crypto casinos, I remembered that I have been listening to people in my country who go to physical casinos and one day I went to a place where it was very close to the physical casino in my country and being So I went to see what the requirements were to enter the physical casino and play and to my amazement the requirements were only 2:

1 - bring ID that proves you are over 18 years of age

2 - have money

And the funny part about this is that when people withdraw the money they won in the physical casino, they just present their ID and withdraw all the money, even when they win millions, and governments don't complain about this, they don't ask for documents of origin of the funds . but when you go to the online casino things become a headache, for example:



Someone would think that he will play calmly and that if he is lucky he will be able to withdraw a lot of money, at least 30 ETH and a lot of money for me. but that person when they read this part of the TOS

1.3 - Source of funds

Verification may be required by every user who have deposited over 5 ETH in any calendar month, there is a process in place to understand the source of wealth (SOW).

Examples of SOW are:
•Ownership of a business
•Employment
•Inheritance
•Investment
•Family

It is critical that the origin and legitimacy of that wealth is clearly understood. If this is not possible an employee may ask for an additional document or proof.
The account may be frozen if the same user deposits either this amount in one go or multiple transactions which amount to this. An email will be sent to them manually to go through the above, and information on the website itself.

1.4 - KYC Trigger:
These steps may be triggered if any player attempts to withdraw an amount exceeding $10,000.

source: https://metawin.com/games/kyc/

most of the people who play in crypto casinos are people who have bought cryptocurrencies for years and do hodl, make money from subscription campaigns, make money from investing in altcoins, make money from trading, make money from being bounty hunters. how these people will do when asked for the origin of the funds? I have no doubt that these people will have difficulties. I honestly don't understand what the hell is going on in the heads of these people who set these rules, maybe they are people from Curacao. These are unnecessary rules, as they could impose requirements such as playing with 100% of the amount deposited as a requirement for withdrawal, as there would be no room for money laundering and entering ID and proof of address documents. but they are asking for things like proof of origin of funds to create more headaches for people using crypto casinos

[ryzaadit]

The only problem is how can I determine the ToS of the specific provider since they usually don’t provide list of restricted country, you will only just notice it when you encounter error message once you open the game.

You can't because the game provider is blocked any connection (IP) from your country. Meanwhile (ISP) provider blocked the website casino, it's completely two different case. Nothing you can do in these situation, If the casino/game provider restricts your country. You should not play to their service, bypass their restricted will get you a punishment. Meanwhile bypass the (ISP) website blocked by setup DNS it's not gonna to give you a problem, due the connection of your internet is not gonna change + your country is not in service platform restriction.

Solution 1 always works for me so far.

Yes, that's why I suggest these solution. Because, I also have experience as well while the bonus game provider restricted my country.

[noormcs5]

The only problem is how can I determine the ToS of the specific provider since they usually don’t provide list of restricted country, you will only just notice it when you encounter error message once you open the game.

You can't because the game provider is blocked any connection (IP) from your country. Meanwhile (ISP) provider blocked the website casino, it's completely two different case. Nothing you can do in these situation, If the casino/game provider restricts your country. You should not play to their service, bypass their restricted will get you a punishment. Meanwhile bypass the (ISP) website blocked by setup DNS it's not gonna to give you a problem, due the connection of your internet is not gonna change + your country is not in service platform restriction.

In the later case, where the casino has not blocked the country's, if the gambler tries to access the platform through VPN, i guess he can access the gambling site, wouldn't he ?
However one care must be taken into consideration that since VPN connects to random countries, one must make sure he connects the VPN to a countries IP who is not blocked by the gambling casino terms of service, else the account can get blocked.

[ryzaadit]

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Yes, If the casino it's not restricted to your country.

Anyway, no need (VPN). Changing DNS it's should be enough, you will not change your connection access, Due using (a VPN) it's quite easy for you to get some problems due terms & conditions casino. Perhaps, If the casino gets a lot of suggestions about (mirror links) and hears feedback from users. They could just create mirror link for user, some of the big casinos right now have a mirror link due to some (ISPs) blocking their site.

If you using VPN from Philipines meanwhile you're from Indonesia. Let's say, you can play on a casino without a resrticted and somehow casino requests you randomly to process the verification. You submit your ID Data to Casino and they found out, your access internet connection it's from Philipines but your data from Indonesia. These could be get you some problem or casino brought these topic as problem.

[avp2306]

The only problem is how can I determine the ToS of the specific provider since they usually don’t provide list of restricted country, you will only just notice it when you encounter error message once you open the game.

You can't because the game provider is blocked any connection (IP) from your country. Meanwhile (ISP) provider blocked the website casino, it's completely two different case. Nothing you can do in these situation, If the casino/game provider restricts your country. You should not play to their service, bypass their restricted will get you a punishment. Meanwhile bypass the (ISP) website blocked by setup DNS it's not gonna to give you a problem, due the connection of your internet is not gonna change + your country is not in service platform restriction.

Maybe more better for each of us forget about using VPN so that there will be no issue. Since we all know here that VPN is restricted or been discourage to use to almost all casino so for us not to encounter any problem then much better to avoid and for sure no further more discussion or question like this would provably happen since some answer might just confuse those readers especially for newbies.

Also there's another impressive win gotten by two person on Metawin and this is so good since we could able to see that there's lots of people winning. For sure this will raise up the curiosity of the gamblers to try and hit if not the same close to those amounts. Those another set of people is so lucky for hitting such huge profit.

[ryzaadit]

-snip-

We know it's restricted.

The problem some of the support host or perhaps a streamer who are sponsored by the casino it tells user to use (VPN). That's quite a problem, I'm not blaming the casino because of how the business work. All of these live support it's mostly third parties who are working remotely and sometimes give us some answer without crosscheck first, since support agent & affiliated person resperanted they should advice correctly without broke the term & condition.

[notocactus]

The problem some of the support host or perhaps a streamer who are sponsored by the casino it tells user to use (VPN). That's quite a problem, I'm not blaming the casino because of how the business work. All of these live support it's mostly third parties who are working remotely and sometimes give us some answer without crosscheck first, since support agent & affiliated person resperanted they should advice correctly without broke the term & condition.

They should answer more carefully and responsibly because with their experience, they must know that many people might apply their answers, advice and get p problems later. If they are more careful and responsible, they will answer like "I am not unsure about it, you must do more checks on the service's Terms of Service or FAQs or ask directly in Support chat or support ticket.

It's clearly that other people who watch those live streams must be responsible with their money first. If they are responsible for their own fund, they will surely do cross check and don't instantly take action with money after watching a live stream and believe all things they get from it is true.

[Kemarit]

More competitions,



@tranthidung - we will never know if those watching live streams are responsible. I mean they could be just addicted gamblers already and trying to still justify and continue to watch those influencers to fuel their addiction. So I'm not sure if they are really reading the ToS because that's what influencers do, do try affect those watching to play in that casino without us going to the intricacies like reading ToS, we just want to create an account and then mimic what we have seen and hopefully we can win big.

[notocactus]

@tranthidung - we will never know if those watching live streams are responsible. I mean they could be just addicted gamblers already and trying to still justify and continue to watch those influencers to fuel their addiction. So I'm not sure if they are really reading the ToS because that's what influencers do, do try affect those watching to play in that casino without us going to the intricacies like reading ToS, we just want to create an account and then mimic what we have seen and hopefully we can win big.

Sure we never know.

For very important, and even can say vital, things like Terms of Service, which relate to our account and money in it, we must confirm it through Terms of Service, FAQs, then even can ask the platform's customer support to get official answers. It helps us to clear our doubt before taking action with our account and money. We can ask customer support until our questions are answers and we feel comprehensively with given answers.

[avp2306]

-snip-

We know it's restricted.

The problem some of the support host or perhaps a streamer who are sponsored by the casino it tells user to use (VPN). That's quite a problem, I'm not blaming the casino because of how the business work. All of these live support it's mostly third parties who are working remotely and sometimes give us some answer without crosscheck first, since support agent & affiliated person resperanted they should advice correctly without broke the term & condition.

That's the problem since a streamer spreading misleading information then this will create a certain issues for people who think that its fine to bypass a restriction or anything illegal to use on the casino. So everything must be corrected before problem occurs.

The problem if the support also didn't give an exact or doubting answer then provably there would be an issue in that side that's why its good to screenshot first all what they say before taking into actions so that we have proof to show if there's some issue will occur if people would really use VPN even if they say its fine.

But for me I generalize all that its not fine to use VPN on any casino so that I can possibly avoid any suspicious activities issues with any casino I play.

[freedomgo]

But for me I generalize all that its not fine to use VPN on any casino so that I can possibly avoid any suspicious activities issues with any casino I play.

The TOS ^{(Terms of Service)} are our guide to using a casino. If we understand the TOS well and we violate them, we should be ready to accept the consequences. In this case, if we decide to bypass any restrictions by using a VPN, we are putting our account at risk. It is easy to create an account at a certain casino, but what if, when you use a VPN, you win a significant amount of money and the casino freezes your account because they detected such a violation? How would you feel? Can you blame the casino for doing it, or do you blame yourself for knowingly doing something that is against the TOS?

So those are the things that should be considered first, at least we see it coming.

[shield132]

talking about this part of giving people more freedom in crypto casinos, I remembered that I have been listening to people in my country who go to physical casinos and one day I went to a place where it was very close to the physical casino in my country and being So I went to see what the requirements were to enter the physical casino and play and to my amazement the requirements were only 2:

1 - bring ID that proves you are over 18 years of age

2 - have money

And the funny part about this is that when people withdraw the money they won in the physical casino, they just present their ID and withdraw all the money, even when they win millions, and governments don't complain about this, they don't ask for documents of origin of the funds . but when you go to the online casino things become a headache, for example:



Someone would think that he will play calmly and that if he is lucky he will be able to withdraw a lot of money, at least 30 ETH and a lot of money for me. but that person when they read this part of the TOS

1.3 - Source of funds

Verification may be required by every user who have deposited over 5 ETH in any calendar month, there is a process in place to understand the source of wealth (SOW).

Examples of SOW are:
•Ownership of a business
•Employment
•Inheritance
•Investment
•Family

It is critical that the origin and legitimacy of that wealth is clearly understood. If this is not possible an employee may ask for an additional document or proof.
The account may be frozen if the same user deposits either this amount in one go or multiple transactions which amount to this. An email will be sent to them manually to go through the above, and information on the website itself.

1.4 - KYC Trigger:
These steps may be triggered if any player attempts to withdraw an amount exceeding $10,000.

source: https://metawin.com/games/kyc/

most of the people who play in crypto casinos are people who have bought cryptocurrencies for years and do hodl, make money from subscription campaigns, make money from investing in altcoins, make money from trading, make money from being bounty hunters. how these people will do when asked for the origin of the funds? I have no doubt that these people will have difficulties. I honestly don't understand what the hell is going on in the heads of these people who set these rules, maybe they are people from Curacao. These are unnecessary rules, as they could impose requirements such as playing with 100% of the amount deposited as a requirement for withdrawal, as there would be no room for money laundering and entering ID and proof of address documents. but they are asking for things like proof of origin of funds to create more headaches for people using crypto casinos

I think that Metawin representative on this forum will give you the best answer but as I understood, things are different for regular users and web3 users. Users who deposit on a custodial wallet address have to go through the procedure that you quoted from Metawin's KYC information source and users who use web3 wallet, can withdraw up to 30 ETH almost instantly without human interaction.
I think that it's the difference between web3 and custodial wallet users on Metawin but I might be wrong, no one should depend on my theory. Let's wait for the answer from Metawin officially or if anyone is in a hurry, please ask to their moderators on Discord.

[Potato Chips]

I think that Metawin representative on this forum will give you the best answer but as I understood, things are different for regular users and web3 users. Users who deposit on a custodial wallet address have to go through the procedure that you quoted from Metawin's KYC information source and users who use web3 wallet, can withdraw up to 30 ETH almost instantly without human interaction.
I think that it's the difference between web3 and custodial wallet users on Metawin but I might be wrong, no one should depend on my theory. Let's wait for the answer from Metawin officially or if anyone is in a hurry, please ask to their moderators on Discord.

Yeah, should be about right. Well, at least according from this tweet:

When you deposit with your Web3 wallet at MetaWin, your funds arrive into a player funds wallet that runs on autopilot. When you win $100,000 and hit withdraw, we have no control over that payout.  It’s yours in 2 seconds.

No game checks. No delays. No friction.

Your money.

I believe there was also a tweet about someone withdrawing more than $100k instantly. I can't find it anymore though, lmk when someone does!

[hosemary]

I believe there was also a tweet about someone withdrawing more than $100k instantly. I can't find it anymore though, lmk when someone does!

This should be the tweet you are talking about.
https://x.com/Meta_Winners/status/1802654809020920029

[Russlenat]

I believe there was also a tweet about someone withdrawing more than $100k instantly. I can't find it anymore though, lmk when someone does!

This should be the tweet you are talking about.
https://x.com/Meta_Winners/status/1802654809020920029

Is this a non custodial wallet link to the account? If so then I guess we can expect that it's automatic, unless I understood it wrong. However, seeing a withdrawal worth $350k from a crypto casino would make people feel confident about the reputation of the casinos as they don't have problem dealing with huge bets and withdrawals are not a problem.

Thanks @hosseinimr93 , that was worth sharing so gamblers will know what casino to trust.

[skarais]

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Is this a non custodial wallet link to the account? If so then I guess we can expect that it's automatic, unless I understood it wrong. However, seeing a withdrawal worth $350k from a crypto casino would make people feel confident about the reputation of the casinos as they don't have problem dealing with huge bets and withdrawals are not a problem.

Paying customers winnings in any amount is the casino's obligation. The problem can sometimes occur because casinos want to check whether it is a fair win without any abuse, but it is also not uncommon that some casinos do not pay out because customers who won large amounts were found to have violated the ToS. But for this one, Metawin has proven itself to be able to pay for it and of course this will further earn them a better reputation among customers.

Thanks @hosseinimr93 , that was worth sharing so gamblers will know what casino to trust.

Casinos will gain more trust when they have transparency and credibility and capabilities in paying out any winnings from their customers. Of course it is mandatory as long as the customer does not abuse anything while playing.

[avp2306]

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Is this a non custodial wallet link to the account? If so then I guess we can expect that it's automatic, unless I understood it wrong. However, seeing a withdrawal worth $350k from a crypto casino would make people feel confident about the reputation of the casinos as they don't have problem dealing with huge bets and withdrawals are not a problem.

Paying customers winnings in any amount is the casino's obligation. The problem can sometimes occur because casinos want to check whether it is a fair win without any abuse, but it is also not uncommon that some casinos do not pay out because customers who won large amounts were found to have violated the ToS. But for this one, Metawin has proven itself to be able to pay for it and of course this will further earn them a better reputation among customers.

What's more good is this.

It’s more the process that’s the point. Players able to withdraw with zero friction 24/7 back to Web3 wallets.  Huge cash reserves sitting in the wallets 4-7x player balances to ensure smooth operations.

They have huge cash reserves to cater those huge withdrawals made by people and currently there are lots of people winning such huge amount of money and none of them posting some claims that there withdrawals has been questioned by Metawin. That's why we can say that Metawin don't give much complexity to their winners and they give what they deserve to get especially if they are lucky.

What's good about this casino is they are generous to their gamblers and they have cashback promotions also wild rain worth $300k which has been shared by OG players on metawin.

[ryzaadit]

Paying customers winnings in any amount is the casino's obligation. The problem can sometimes occur because casinos want to check whether it is a fair win without any abuse

Let be honest, most the time on sector gambling always have more problems it's always (Sportbooks) sectors.

It's always on every casino, but for (CASINO) it has less problem compared to sportsbooks as long we don't usually (broke any terms & condition). Regarding the game it's always fine while you are playing these sector, since the win it's on slot (not quite surprise) it's smooth without any problem.

I always seeing problem mostly on (sportbook) sector in every casino.