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June 27, 2024, 09:39:20 PM |
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I don't think soo. The reason was simple, If we take a look in (Information) internet changing your DNS will not change your IP: https://asknaas.quora.com/Does-DNS-change-your-IP-address meanwhile casinos have few steps to verify your geo location 1. Based IP origin country 2. Based the verification data you are using. So, even your friend changing the DNS his origin IP will still using country (Indonesia). It's not gonna to created a problem, as long from my perspective the (IP Country) you are using with data verification is matched. In the quote below it has been stated that - users are prohibited from using VPN and proxy to bypass regional restriction, but if it is DNS [does not change location] then perhaps that is understandable. The case is due to restriction from internet providers - these are not country restriction, even if your country does not actually legalize gambling. However, it is best to wait for a response from the representative - you can hope that their answer can be used as reference at a later date. Source: https://metawin.com/games/terms-and-conditions/2.1. It is a Player’s responsibility to ensure that their Participation is lawful in their jurisdiction. Any person who is knowingly in breach of clause 2., including any attempt to circumvent this restriction, for example, by using a VPN, proxy or similar service that masks or manipulates the identification of your real location, or by otherwise providing false or misleading information regarding your location or place of residence, or by Participating through a third party or on behalf of a third party located in a jurisdiction where it is unlawful to Participate, is in breach of these Terms and Conditions. You may be committing fraud and may be subject to criminal prosecution.
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June 27, 2024, 10:46:24 PM |
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I didn't find my country in the list of countries that are prohibited from playing at this casino, but what about the points I bolded?
Does this mean gambling is illegal in your country? if so, I don't think support would actively encourage bypassing such otherwise, I would recommend opening a support ticket on discord as mods are pretty active there.
On another note, it looks like free spins friday is gonna be another one from pragmatic play. They're doing a poll on discord between Hand of Midas 2 and Hot to Burn Multiplier. Former is very likely to win though.
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ryzaadit
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June 28, 2024, 04:45:15 AM |
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Kinda restricted, and mostly based on the terms & conditions casino we are not getting any problems t all because the country is not being listed. So, basically is always about the user and the government. Usually some internet provider is blocked the website, due the request from the goverment. -snip
It's not a surprise, because I have faced some problems in the same casino. Like (Stake, BK8) sometimes, I always changing my DNS using the DNS has been provided by Google Chrome. As long my country is not being listed in restricted country term and condition, it's fine. He can tested by him self too, changing DNS and check IP origin country of your access after change the DNS.
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shield132
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June 28, 2024, 11:51:01 AM |
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I introduced metawin to a friend today because he wanted to try some slot games, but unfortunately the internet network provider he uses does not allow him to access this casino because it is prohibited. He accesses it via android and without VPN I don't think it could work for him at all. So the question is, if I recommend that he change the DNS provider on the browser he uses, does this violate the site's rules?
I didn't find my country in the list of countries that are prohibited from playing at this casino, but what about the points I bolded?
There will be many internet providers in your friend's country. Are all of them blocking him from accessing the casino? Is your friend 100% sure that this current internet provider prohibits him from accessing the casino? He can change DNS to Cloudflare DNS in browser's settings and bypass that restriction but I don't know if it will be perfectly legal and doesn't cause any problem with the internet provider. I can tell you from my personal experience that some torrent websites are blocked by my internet provider but I use Cloudflare DNS and still manage to visit those restricted websites. I do this for years and my internet provider has never called me about it. Seems, it's okay for me to change DNS and visit prohibited websites. It might be okay for your friend too, just be sure that his country isn't blocked by Metawin. P.S. Congrats to everyone who got this amazing airdrop. I wish you many more...
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Wapfika
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June 28, 2024, 12:57:16 PM |
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I didn't find my country in the list of countries that are prohibited from playing at this casino, but what about the points I bolded? 1.3.0. Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Belarus, Burma, Central African Republic, Cuba, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Eritrea, Haiti, Holy See, Iran, Iraq, Kyrgystan, Lebanon, Libya, North Korea, Palestine State, Republic of Ireland, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela, Yemen, Zimbabwe and the American states of Nevada (USA), Washington (USA), Georgia (USA), Minnesota (USA), Mississippi (USA), Montana (USA), South Dakota (USA) and any other countries, territories or jurisdictions in which it would be illegal to play Games or redeem Prizes. It depends if the bolded part satisfies the country your friend living rn. There’s some instances that ISP is the only one restrict the website but the government doesn’t have any law about it but ISP also do this restriction due to the government advice. Still the jurisdiction of the country should be considered since a citizen should know whether it’s allowed to play online gambling or not since this might cause a problem in the future once KYC was enforced.
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Eternad
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June 28, 2024, 02:42:52 PM |
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Got my airdrop around 6$ in ETH and manage to turn it to 40$ through playing live games on evolution gaming. Got some big win crazy time and wanted cards. I’m lucky to check the ANN thread for the airdrop before it expires since I rarely visit my X account these days!
Thanks Metawin for the airdop even though I wager less on last couple of weeks.
Nice to read this and congratulations for that amazing win. Receive mine to but I only reach for $20+ then lose all ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) effect of being greedy when you spend free money. I always visit them on X because there's a lot of promotion going so I guess you should check it to since lots of surprising rewards to be given to lucky people who participates. Although its hard to win due to lots of people participating but who knows when luck strikes we can win there to. I have less expectations that my bets will win since I bet it on crazy time which has no bonus for the last 12 rounds. I try my luck on this game since bonus usually appeared after a ling drought which really did. A double on plinko that resulted to 80 multiplier gives me a huge boost on my bankroll despoite my is just small. I typically bets on live games with high return potential when using very low bankroll since it’s very hard to increase your bankroll on slow games that only gives x2 return because of the house edge, you need one time big time win in able to win something significant on small bankroll. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Haunebu
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June 28, 2024, 03:04:05 PM |
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Still the jurisdiction of the country should be considered since a citizen should know whether it’s allowed to play online gambling or not since this might cause a problem in the future once KYC was enforced.
FIAT casinos strictly adhere to these archaic laws thanks to which their popularity has decreased over time, but some crypto casinos ignore those laws completely and allow gamblers from those countries to play using VPNs etc. I feel that all crypto gambling sites should allow gamblers from countries with such trash restrictions since anonymity is their key advantage.
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Wapfika
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June 28, 2024, 03:26:17 PM |
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Still the jurisdiction of the country should be considered since a citizen should know whether it’s allowed to play online gambling or not since this might cause a problem in the future once KYC was enforced.
FIAT casinos strictly adhere to these archaic laws thanks to which their popularity has decreased over time, but some crypto casinos ignore those laws completely and allow gamblers from those countries to play using VPNs etc. I feel that all crypto gambling sites should allow gamblers from countries with such trash restrictions since anonymity is their key advantage. Some casino use mirror link or suggest the use IP alteration as solution to play in the casino but they only do this without saying directly to break the country law. So yeah I understand what you are trying to say here since we are using crypto currencies which is different from fiat when it comes to legality. I think they choose to adhere on this rules since its what requires by their license provider. Their hands might be tied due to their license if they want to operate legally with it.
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June 28, 2024, 04:02:44 PM |
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Some casino use mirror link or suggest the use IP alteration as solution to play in the casino but they only do this without saying directly to break the country law
Some gambling sites have mirror links but I did not know there are such mirror links from MetaWin business.
On the other hand, there is a coming event for 0.5 BTC competition that will be drawn next 3 hours and a half. Giveaway! 🥳 UNDER 4 hours until our 0.5 $BTC competition draws on http://metawin.com! We are giving away $150 in $ETH so somebody can enter! Like ❤️, RT & Tag 2 friends! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FGRK8VgCWsAA-zyo%3Fformat%3Djpg%26name%3Dsmall&t=665&c=eyOXgCFKNNk1Vw)
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June 28, 2024, 05:42:50 PM |
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I don't think soo. The reason was simple, If we take a look in (Information) internet changing your DNS will not change your IP: https://asknaas.quora.com/Does-DNS-change-your-IP-address meanwhile casinos have few steps to verify your geo location 1. Based IP origin country 2. Based the verification data you are using. So, even your friend changing the DNS his origin IP will still using country (Indonesia). It's not gonna to created a problem, as long from my perspective the (IP Country) you are using with data verification is matched. I think this is the correct solution because basically changing DNS does not change the location of the device used. But, I won't force him to keep trying metawin if what he's complaining about makes him uncomfortable.
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Does this mean gambling is illegal in your country? Yes, I think so. The government prohibits gambling here, but in most cases, most casinos do not limit gamblers from our country. So as ryzaadit said, this is about the users and the government.
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There will be many internet providers in your friend's country. Are all of them blocking him from accessing the casino? Is your friend 100% sure that this current internet provider prohibits him from accessing the casino? He can change DNS to Cloudflare DNS in browser's settings and bypass that restriction but I don't know if it will be perfectly legal and doesn't cause any problem with the internet provider. I can tell you from my personal experience that some torrent websites are blocked by my internet provider but I use Cloudflare DNS and still manage to visit those restricted websites. I do this for years and my internet provider has never called me about it. Seems, it's okay for me to change DNS and visit prohibited websites. It might be okay for your friend too, just be sure that his country isn't blocked by Metawin. I myself have tried at least a few internet providers, but the same thing keeps happening because the government has asked them to limit users of their services for gambling access. But as I said above, if this makes him uncomfortable then I won't force him to try metawin. I accidentally introduced him to metawin when we sat down together, but the suggestion to change the DNS might be useful for him to be able to access more prohibited sites in the future even if the internet provider restricts it. So, thank you guys for your input. I'm glad you shared your opinion on the question I asked.
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ryzaadit
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June 28, 2024, 06:59:32 PM |
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Me and @skarais are from the same country. That's why, mostly from my perspective is quite logic. The blocked is from provider, but sometimes is not all providers because Provider A & B could be different (A blocked the site meanwhile B are not). I have these experience because some of my casino list is getting restricted, and usually accessing from - Mirror Link - Sometimes based connection, by changing IP from airplane mode (due my self using hotspot). Work sometimes. -snip-
Yap, should be work without any problem. I doing these over few years.
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Wapfika
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June 29, 2024, 01:50:29 PM |
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Me and @skarais are from the same country. That's why, mostly from my perspective is quite logic. The blocked is from provider, but sometimes is not all providers because Provider A & B could be different (A blocked the site meanwhile B are not). I have these experience because some of my casino list is getting restricted, and usually accessing from - Mirror Link - Sometimes based connection, by changing IP from airplane mode (due my self using hotspot). Work sometimes. I understand the variations of providers restriction since I experienced playing same provider on casino A but can’t play in casino B. Provider usually doesn’t have their own ToS stated on the casino that’s why you can unintentionally bypass it if you are using VPN or altering DNS to bypass restriction. What I’m curious about is whether these provider restrictions that bypassed can result to penalties from the casino since I remember support on some casino suggest the use of VPN just to play restricted games due to their free spins.
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ryzaadit
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June 29, 2024, 08:06:33 PM |
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Perhaps, If your country it's not a restricted country. Why not just looking (VPN) in the same country you are from. I mean, even you are using VPN you still can follow the rules of their term & condition because you using (VPN) country with the same country you are stay. So, you can follow the verification without any problem due the (IP & ID) it's from same country. Sure, it's not gonna make any issue at all. The problem with (VPN) it's always, play from restriction country or the VPN (IP) you are using it's not the same with data you are provided to them.
Regarding, game restricted you can do 2 things. 1. Requested to the support or casino to change your freespin to other provider 2. Just abandoned them. Number 2 it's because number 1 getting rejected. It's better to leave it, rather than facing some problem in the futue.
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June 29, 2024, 09:54:16 PM |
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Perhaps, If your country it's not a restricted country. Why not just looking (VPN) in the same country you are from. I mean, even you are using VPN you still can follow the rules of their term & condition because you using (VPN) country with the same country you are stay. So, you can follow the verification without any problem due the (IP & ID) it's from same country. Sure, it's not gonna make any issue at all. The problem with (VPN) it's always, play from restriction country or the VPN (IP) you are using it's not the same with data you are provided to them. For me, I don't see the necessity to use a VPN when gambling if the VPN I'll subscribe to is still from the same country as mine. As long as I can gamble without a KYC, that's already a way to keep my privacy. And yes, my IP could be exposed to the provider, but I'll make sure I'm not going to use a static IP from the provider, or just maybe use a data connection that has dynamic IPs.
Regarding, game restricted you can do 2 things. 1. Requested to the support or casino to change your freespin to other provider 2. Just abandoned them.
Number 2 it's because number 1 getting rejected. It's better to leave it, rather than facing some problem in the futue.
That highlighted word is worth a try, but abandoning the casino because we are not getting a free spin is not my thing. I'm interested in real action coming from my real bankroll. These bonuses are just part of being loyal to the casino, so with or without them, I'm just fine.
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avp2306
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June 29, 2024, 10:15:05 PM |
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$500,000 give back promotion is up from Metawin who lost their bets on Euro 2024 guys. Imagine how generous for Metawin giving such huge money to give back for those people who lose their money for wrong calculation and expectation for the teams they like. Such a great timing for launching their sportsbook and there's a big event (Euro 2024) that a lot of people are speculating the result then enjoy more the game while placing their bets on their favorite sportsbook and here comes Metawin offering something good to their community. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F06%2F29%2FhxoCN.jpeg&t=665&c=xH0wDKmD9hkcNQ) Post from X https://x.com/Meta_Winners/status/1807070392986620300?t=0t21uoV7VFWOtKfl_lZN3w&s=19Link of the promotion https://metawin.com/promotions/sports/
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Potato Chips
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June 29, 2024, 10:27:26 PM |
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Nice Euro 2024 promo!
Make sure to read the promo tos, folks. The highlights for me are:
1. $500K money pool 2. If mw is at loss for this tournament, money pool will be reduced to $100k 3. Max payout per player being $5k 4. One week to claim your payout
I'm expecting a tough competition for the pool though so maybe I'll just stick to risking small to medium sized amounts. 🤔
What about you folks?
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ryzaadit
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June 30, 2024, 12:37:28 AM Last edit: June 30, 2024, 01:41:58 AM by ryzaadit |
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Have you ever read the discussion at least? It's cleary the (IP) connection is getting blocked by the provider, using (a VPN) it's the suggestion from VIP and the post I was quoted to user who asking some suggestion. Using same country it's the solution for your connection IP for user who are getting blocked just because provider not the casino term & condition. So you will have the same data you are gonna to input (in case they're requested those) with IP connection you are used. It's to avoided, they're questioned you "Why the connection IP with your ID it's different" but abandoning the casino because we are not getting a free spin is not my thing.
I'm not mentioning abandoning the casino, I'm referring the free spin. Meaning you are abandoned the bonus, not the casino.
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June 30, 2024, 07:15:58 AM |
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Have you ever read the discussion at least? Yes, and I'm trying to understand your statement as clearly as possibe, I hope I get your point right. It's cleary the (IP) connection is getting blocked by the provider, using (a VPN) it's the suggestion from VIP and the post I was quoted to user who asking some suggestion. Using same country it's the solution for your connection IP for user who are getting blocked just because provider not the casino term & condition. So you will have the same data you are gonna to input (in case they're requested those) with IP connection you are used. It's to avoided, they're questioned you "Why the connection IP with your ID it's different"
I just don't get this. ""Why the connection IP with your ID it's different"...I thought game providers already understood that some ISP providers use dynamic IPs for their users, so the IP will change from time to time. The most important thing is that a gambler is still accessing it from the same country. If that country is allowed to access the game, then there shouldn't be a problem. I think it's easier for the game provider to sort all the users based on the country they access from, rather than sorting all the ISPs, which could be millions depending on the number of users of a certain casino. but abandoning the casino because we are not getting a free spin is not my thing.
I'm not mentioning abandoning the casino, I'm referring the free spin. Meaning you are abandoned the bonus, not the casino. This one. Regarding, game restricted you can do 2 things. 1. Requested to the support or casino to change your freespin to other provider 2. Just abandoned them.
Number 2 it's because number 1 getting rejected. It's better to leave it, rather than facing some problem in the futue.
Sorry I'm might have misunderstood it, I thought when you stated "it's better to leave it" means leaving as in get out of the casino.
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Wapfika
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June 30, 2024, 11:11:28 AM |
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Perhaps, If your country it's not a restricted country. Why not just looking (VPN) in the same country you are from. I mean, even you are using VPN you still can follow the rules of their term & condition because you using (VPN) country with the same country you are stay. So, you can follow the verification without any problem due the (IP & ID) it's from same country. This actually what I’m doing to bypass the restrictions from my ISP. The IP provided by the VPN even with same country as mine is not restricted. The only problem is how can I determine the ToS of the specific provider since they usually don’t provide list of restricted country, you will only just notice it when you encounter error message once you open the game. Simple solution for me is to just avoid all those providers that restrict me using regular IP in able to avoid the hassle of this restrictions. Sure, it's not gonna make any issue at all. The problem with (VPN) it's always, play from restriction country or the VPN (IP) you are using it's not the same with data you are provided to them.
Regarding, game restricted you can do 2 things. 1. Requested to the support or casino to change your freespin to other provider 2. Just abandoned them.
Number 2 it's because number 1 getting rejected. It's better to leave it, rather than facing some problem in the futue.Solution 1 always works for me so far.
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June 30, 2024, 01:09:01 PM |
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Perhaps, If your country it's not a restricted country. Why not just looking (VPN) in the same country you are from. I mean, even you are using VPN you still can follow the rules of their term & condition because you using (VPN) country with the same country you are stay. So, you can follow the verification without any problem due the (IP & ID) it's from same country. This actually what I’m doing to bypass the restrictions from my ISP. The IP provided by the VPN even with same country as mine is not restricted. The only problem is how can I determine the ToS of the specific provider since they usually don’t provide list of restricted country, you will only just notice it when you encounter error message once you open the game. Simple solution for me is to just avoid all those providers that restrict me using regular IP in able to avoid the hassle of this restrictions. You are trying to find an alternative method to fix your problem, and using a VPN in general is always risky. Since you have no idea about the TOS of the certain provider, that's the risk you're taking, and you should be ready for it. Besides, it's just a free spin, so you'll lose nothing (aside from the opportunity to win extra money) since it's just free. I'm just curious though, since it's already suggested, has anybody done this already and not faced any problems from the casino? If so, then it might be worth a try.
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