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February 03, 2024, 06:18:04 AM
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Being hard to the gambling addict can make him further aggressive and if he is the elder member of the house, then this can create more complications. I also agree that telling him softly the cons of gambling is good enough but at the same time, we need to find him activities where he can remain busy and hence not find much time for gambling. Distracting anyone from gambling may not be as easy as it seems.

especially if the addict still holds his own money. Diverting yourself from being busy is quite effective. but for gambling addicts who may already be experiencing financial problems. he will think making money is more important than gambling. although addicts will think about making money from gambling. but when he is busy enough with other work activities that also make money. a gambling addict may gradually become aware of better activities for him to do.
he also had to think about making money for gambling capital. When an addict doesn't get a supply of funds to play gambling, he will experience pressure himself without having to be warned strongly.


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February 03, 2024, 07:07:05 AM
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If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.
It's definitely not as simple as you think. Your approach could drive them into a frenzy making matters worse which is why this isn't the most efficient strategy and I am speaking from experience.

A calm and patient approach is required to deal with such addicts in my opinion. Think!

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February 03, 2024, 08:13:32 AM
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You can only help those who want to be helped. A gambling addict has to admit that he's an addict and be willing to stop before he can be helped. When he has made a conscious effort to stop them it will be easier to help out.

There's no point in being harsh to an addict. If it was easy for them to not be an addict they would have. It's not easy so you have to be gentle with him.
Being harsh on people is just another way of pushing people far away from you and you can't help a person if the person is far away.
You just have to keep making sure he's loved and not judged. Don't judge them.
This doesn't mean you won't tell them their fuck up to their face. Be honest with them, don't sugarcoat anything, but be gentle. Love them. Love is the only thing that can help. Create trust between the both of you, let the person know you're there for them.

First, they have to be able to admit that they are addicted to gambling, because usually those who are addicted to gambling don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling. also with them addicted to gambling they will not easily accept advice from others. It's true what you said, they will be easily helped if they admit they are addicted and have their own advice, but if they don't have their own awareness then in my opinion it will be difficult even if they are helped by other people or their closest family.

To be honest, when someone is addicted to gambling, his family will definitely do their best by gently helping him, but as time goes by, if the addict doesn't change, then it is likely that the family will also raise their hand to help him. because I myself am fed up of advising my friend who is addicted to gambling, so now I just let him, let him experience an incident that will make him realize it by himself. After he has his own awareness then maybe advice from other people can be accepted well.

Treating drug addiction is a complex process that requires a variety of methods and techniques. Common methods of treating addiction patients include psychological and behavioral therapy sessions, social and family support, as well as assistance with lifestyle changes and learning strategies to reduce stress and temptations. Health accompaniment is considered one of the basics in the treatment process, and family and friends have an important role in supporting and assisting the patient.
It may also include drug treatments and integrated medical supervision to help alleviate withdrawal symptoms and maintain psychological and physical stability. By supporting the patient with skills and tools they can use to overcome addiction, positive long-term outcomes can be achieved.

That's true, also in my opinion to be able to stop gambling addiction is not easy, they have to go through many processes which may be difficult for them. and it's true that maybe they will need psychological therapy, because in my opinion people who are addicted to gambling tend to have changes in attitudes and behavior and that is also because their thinking has been greatly influenced by gambling, after that there is encouragement from the family which will definitely help them to be able to stop gambling. because suggestions and input are also important as long as they can receive them well.

However, in my opinion, quitting addiction well enough to be truly clean cannot be done or happen in a short period of time, as you said, it might be successful in the long term, because it seems like it is possible to recover from addiction. It takes a long period of time, it's impossible for it to happen in a short period of time, and most people who want to recover from gambling addiction rarely succeed if they don't wholeheartedly want to stop gambling. In my opinion, even if they fail to recover from their gambling addiction, they will return to gambling and may become more aggressive in their gambling or may get worse. In my opinion, the key is in themselves who must believe wholeheartedly and be consistent in carrying it out.

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February 03, 2024, 09:35:45 AM
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If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.
It's definitely not as simple as you think. Your approach could drive them into a frenzy making matters worse which is why this isn't the most efficient strategy and I am speaking from experience.

A calm and patient approach is required to deal with such addicts in my opinion. Think!
Calm will also result for them to think that they can go over you and in time you might not know that you are already following them into being a gambler lol.
most of addicted people does not know calmness instead they are looking for things that can easily supply them what they need and what they can earn from that addiction.

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February 03, 2024, 09:46:57 AM
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If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.
It's definitely not as simple as you think. Your approach could drive them into a frenzy making matters worse which is why this isn't the most efficient strategy and I am speaking from experience.

A calm and patient approach is required to deal with such addicts in my opinion. Think!
Yes, harsh methods will not help at all, even though some may be successful, but they are not completely successful, in fact they are depressed by the situation. If they use harsh methods, because I have seen it firsthand, it actually burdens the addict, becomes more stressed and can experience madness, so the method What is effective is to approach it calmly and patiently because changing habits is not as easy as we imagine, just like if you get used to eating rice every day and then if you don't eat rice the next day, forcing yourself actually ends up torturing yourself.

There are stages and processes that must be gone through in healing people who are addicted to gambling, especially if they are part of our family, those closest to us who always meet all the time, so it just takes time to slowly switch them to other, more positive activities and try to reduce their gambling slowly. , don't ask him to stop quickly but direct him to reduce it gradually and slowly, usually it will work after going through the process correctly. It's okay if it takes a long time, at least it won't stress him out.

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February 03, 2024, 10:01:38 AM
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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but gentle method may work for some others.
correct as OP mentioned it is one of them living in the house meaning family member and if this is correct then they must know how to handle that person , with either by force or by calmness yet this is their call , w are not even  the person involved or living with Him so how can we answer this.

and better to wait for that addict to seek for help , because they are mostly hard to handle not until they realized what they are missing and understand the call of helping.









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February 03, 2024, 10:51:17 AM
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If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.

A calmer approach is what is needed to create a solution for the addict to go out of his dilemma and not to cause more problem by attacking his mentality. I guess by attacking his mentality you probably meant to tell him negative stories but I bet you such addict have perhaps heard such stories and doesn't have the capacity to stop themselves. Therefore, it goes beyond telling stories but a action, a suiting action that he won't know you are working to take him out and before you know it he is already out of addiction.

No addict wants you to use force on them and if you try and fail, you would probably not get the opportunity to try again because they will keep some distance away from you and try to avoid you, including seeing you as an enemy that is trying to deprive them of their winning as they feel any time they try, they are close to winning which is why they hardly give up by themselves.

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If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.

A calmer approach is what is needed to create a solution for the addict to go out of his dilemma and not to cause more problem by attacking his mentality. I guess by attacking his mentality you probably meant to tell him negative stories but I bet you such addict have perhaps heard such stories and doesn't have the capacity to stop themselves. Therefore, it goes beyond telling stories but a action, a suiting action that he won't know you are working to take him out and before you know it he is already out of addiction.

No addict wants you to use force on them and if you try and fail, you would probably not get the opportunity to try again because they will keep some distance away from you and try to avoid you, including seeing you as an enemy that is trying to deprive them of their winning as they feel any time they try, they are close to winning which is why they hardly give up by themselves.

I agree with you, but let me also point out that, it is very important for a gambler who is addicted to say that he or she needs help, before we decide to extent a helping hand to such a person,  going out of the street, and then seeing someone who is addicted to gambling, and throwing ourselves at him or her, in a bid to help that gambler may not always end well.
The only time I think we can offer such unsolicited help is when the person we are trying or wanting to help is a family member who is in close commission with us, or a best or very close friend or ours.

I say this because, some people are addicted to gambling and still enjoy playing it, most especially, those who are working or doing business and making just as good as enough money for themselves, and aside from being addicted to gambling, to them, gambling is also a way they ease off stress of that day after their activities at work or business place.
So, to want to advice such person to leave gambling either by force or by mild, when they did not ask for such help, could be you making yourself their enemy.

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February 03, 2024, 01:54:27 PM
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Personally I would do both stages. The first is to be gentle by advising him that excessive gambling to the point of addiction will ruin everything. So, I gave warnings and advice like that 2 or 3 times. If there is still no change and gambling becomes more and more chaotic, harsh measures will definitely be taken to teach him a lesson. However, rude here means that the intention is good, not rude like hitting or slapping. but rather a firm attitude to pressure himself to think clearly. If his firm attitude is still not followed, the final option is to leave it alone until he feels the impact for himself.
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February 03, 2024, 02:08:52 PM
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

What do you think?
Neglect makes people go into gambling and they end up being addicts. The feeling of loneliness can make people go into gambling and become addicts. Both neglect and loneliness can result in mental illness. Love, care, and a feeling of acceptance and importance can help a person addicted to gambling overcome it if it is done genuinely and from a place of wanting to see the addict recover. This is what I would do and the person doesn't have to be a family, I can do it for a friend who I care about deeply.

Using harsh words, teasing, mocking can never be an effective strategy. Rather it would make the addict gamble more.

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February 03, 2024, 02:32:15 PM
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

For me it's little bit hard and challenging if we will help one of our family members away from gambling cause there's a chance that they will get angry with us but it won't happen if we slowly teach them how to leave in addiction we should have them a good and true happiness outside in gambling world. Cause addiction is very serious illness  its too hard to handle it self so we need some people to help out in a gambling world.

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February 03, 2024, 03:49:02 PM
 #132

As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

What do you think?
Neglect makes people go into gambling and they end up being addicts. The feeling of loneliness can make people go into gambling and become addicts. Both neglect and loneliness can result in mental illness. Love, care, and a feeling of acceptance and importance can help a person addicted to gambling overcome it if it is done genuinely and from a place of wanting to see the addict recover. This is what I would do and the person doesn't have to be a family, I can do it for a friend who I care about deeply.

Using harsh words, teasing, mocking can never be an effective strategy. Rather it would make the addict gamble more.

Hard to actually corner an addict to give up his rights unless this person is dependent.

People have different personalities. Not leaving him alone can be interpreted by this person as invading his privacy and it could take another turn which could lead him to get aggressive and in the end, instead of him getting him to avoid gambling, this will lead to a bitter quarrel. Either of the methods can be interpreted by this person as invading his privacy.


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February 03, 2024, 04:54:33 PM
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Yes regulations is the best point to begin with,  because many times,  why some addicts fails in the attempt to get out of that addictions is the fact that they go all in at once trying to quite at once and this could become counter productive since addiction will always fight back,  but if the addict start by limiting his activities and setting out a formula to follow all the time until he be able to get out of the addictions,  this will most likely help him a lot to have a slow and steady withdrawal process that could be free of residing back to the addictions.

Agree that the fight against addiction is a very big one and at that we need to put everything in place as an individual to help us to make the best form of decisions when it comes to withdrawing from addiction.

The most dangerous in terms of regulating gambling addiction is offline casinos. The casino owners specifically create such an atmosphere in which players almost completely forget about caution. Various special substances are used here, as well as a lot of psychological stimuli
This is why we should try to be aware before we sink, and it is not all offline casinos that are this risky though. I've been to many of them, it is just about the class of the ones you go for, and their ugly intentions to make money by all means which matters. But this shouldn't be an issue for the smart guy, even if you are a victim once depending on the different locality you found yourself in, this should not repeat itself if you are wise. No matter what I see in casinos whether big or scam, classy or less, I make sure that I do not forget my brain. I am always getting myself aware of the issues that could arise from the casinos, so any amount of temptation can't work on me, at least except they drug me which is highly unlikely.

Whether it is women, alcohol or other, I do not go beyond my limit, and that is if I want to partake in anything that might affect my psychology because I know that it is never good for my next line of action especially if I am with enough money with it. Above all, I keep my head straight anywhere I go and focus on the purpose of going there. I trust myself, the moment I know that things are getting awkward, no amount of persuasion can make me stay since I know that any action I take after then is not me who took it. So why remain there? For this, I think it is partly about us in this situation.

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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Gambling is a conscious physical habit, and the only way to stop a conscious habit is a conscious deliberate decision by people around or the addict himself to stop or moderate the way he/she gambles. So in regards to this question O.P just asked, for me, I will say that the best approach to helping a family member who is a gambling addict is first "Advise him/her" about the potential harm his/her addiction is liable to cause him in the near future, while preventing him from having access to gadgets likely to aid him gamble (i.e phones, laptop and the internet) in a lovingly and respectfully manner, and not being harsh.

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February 04, 2024, 06:07:25 AM
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
if I'm in the situation and I have a relative who is experiencing gambling addiction, I would choose number 1 among the choices, because it will help more if we find out what that person is feeling and we must know what is the source of why they reach to the point of becoming addicted to gambling. It will help them think and feel better if we talk to them properly and give advice based on what their current situation is, because when we force someone to stop gambling, or we always scold them or being a nagger to them, they might just be more triggered to continue gambling because of the pressure and stress they will feel. so no matter what situation they are in, let's choose to be calm and understanding.




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February 04, 2024, 07:55:19 AM
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2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.


I have no personal experience with gambling addictions, but I have family members that were addicted to drugs, cigarettes and alcohol. What I can tell from personal experience is that a soft approach is not working, because the addict will just take advantage of the soft demeanor in the family and use any loopholes to continue with his addiction. Of course it's important to talk with the addict and try to get him on your side, we need to make him see that he is on the wrong path and needs to change his life. The problem with addiction is that you can spend 90% of the day fighting it successful, only to ruin everything in a weak moment. In my opinion it would be much better to have a harsh approach and really try to change his actions.
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February 04, 2024, 08:09:50 AM
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For me it's little bit hard and challenging if we will help one of our family members away from gambling cause there's a chance that they will get angry with us but it won't happen if we slowly teach them how to leave in addiction we should have them a good and true happiness outside in gambling world. Cause addiction is very serious illness  its too hard to handle it self so we need some people to help out in a gambling world.
I think it is impossible to advise those who have experienced gambling addiction and we tell them to stop gambling that they will scold us and will never listen to what we tell them about the gambling they have done has had a bad impact on themselves. If they want to leave their own gambling addiction then other people can suggest to stop and give them advice because if they don't want to stop then other people will not be able to stop their gambling activities.

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February 04, 2024, 08:14:14 AM
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The approach is defending on the person that is addicted, we should know better what kind of atttitude he has because he  is within our home, a familiy member. My approach on this is I will not be harsh, this kind of person needs to get the compassion so he'll surrender his burden, yes, addiction is a burden as that's simply unable to control ourselves and all we do is just to gamble and lose our money.

Although we may say that we don't lose all the time, there are also instances that we win money, but the question is, how long that would last? I mean, if you are a gambler or an addicted gambler, you'll never stop gambling until you lose everything. Did anyone here know an addicted gambler stop gambling when they are winning?

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February 04, 2024, 09:09:14 AM
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I think this will depend on the personality of the person who will talk to the gambling addict.
If he is the type who can discuss it straight to the point then I bet he will be harsh at telling the truth, or it will sound harsh. That's what I will do because in the past I've learned my lesson that sometimes being gentle to the person could make it worse. But telling them the facts and what could be done to prevent it without taking the long cut seems to be working well.
I have friends who are drug addicts and somehow I affected them with the harsh things that I've said to them. Now, they are clean and working hard for their families.
I think this will also depend on the listener/gambling addict in this case. If you two both know each other well then I think you can talk to him straight to the point and just be real. Don't let your emotion of pity become a wall and then you will talk to him like you are another person, just be yourself and try if that will work. I bet it will.

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February 04, 2024, 09:31:44 AM
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2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.
Being harsh to them can’t get the best out of them, because they will see it as if you hate them and is using their weakness against them which the best thing for them to be at peace is not to come close to you, to me the best way is to advise and tell them things share how they can be able to get their self out of it make plans with them and keep them busy don’t leave their sight when ever you can and they should limit the amount of time they visit the casino, and if their are other activities you can get him involve at you should so that he can get his mind off their, one thing about all this addicts is that the moment they are bored they will start thinking about how to keep their self busy with gambling.

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