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January 31, 2024, 10:20:23 PM
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That's the way such gamblers always think, most of them think that they can make x3 or x5 of what they earning from gambling and that's what drives them to put all their interest and time into finding that big win that will make them happy but at the long run of things it's practically just stupidness and they only know when the whole issue has turn negative red for them and by that I mean being stagnant with the feeling of progression.
That's just their wishful thinking, producing x3, x5 or even x100 because they always imagine victory no matter how many losses they will experience.

But when they have a big win, they will always be proud and forget that it is time to go out.
But for gamblers who don't have any planing, they will continue to play with all those winnings.

Until finally the profit is lost and the initial capital also disappears.
Of course this makes them stressed, it is an act of stupidity that cannot be contained because they do not have a strategy.

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January 31, 2024, 10:51:30 PM
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

You already did your best. If you want to continue helping him, seek assistance to his family or close friends. You can't single handly him right now and you need some backup. Don't give up. Regardless of the age, no one can withstand the wrath of doing gambling especially if already fall on the gambling trap.

I'm afraid that if help will be stop, that person will turned into worst. I know it's on the person itself to make some adjustment but in that situation, the person's mind is not properly working anymore since he already fall on gambling trap. Again, don't give up. Continue to help that person until the realization will come to him and as I mentioned, ask some assistance to your circle of friends.
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January 31, 2024, 10:57:00 PM
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In gambling what you need is luck because you may make your research from different ways but you will not have the opportunity to win, so secondly its good for someone to know gambling before the person gambles, because gambling have advantages and disadvantages and when you have the disadvantages at hand you may likely win gambling very well, sometimes making a research is not what that will guarantee you winning in gambling, so being luck is one of the elementary concepts that gives people the chance of making gain or profits in gambling

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January 31, 2024, 11:57:31 PM
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No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.

This individual is addicted to gambling and the proper thing his family or friends can do for him is to help him stop gambling, he can't stop gambling on his own as his addiction will always lead him back to gambling but with the help of a professional, he can overcome his addictions. He can also plan the money he used for gambling. When he received his salary, he shouldn't allocate all to gambling but divide them into different parts and only use those meant for gambling to bet.

Lack of planning is the reasons many individuals spend carelessly. You don't have to waste all your money on gambling. Gamblers lose more than they earn when gambling due to over betting therefore as a responsible gambler, you have to be planning so you don't lose control of your expenses and spend more money on gambling instead of investing into reliable investment that can give you more money.



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February 01, 2024, 07:54:23 AM
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No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.

This individual is addicted to gambling and the proper thing his family or friends can do for him is to help him stop gambling, he can't stop gambling on his own as his addiction will always lead him back to gambling but with the help of a professional, he can overcome his addictions. He can also plan the money he used for gambling. When he received his salary, he shouldn't allocate all to gambling but divide them into different parts and only use those meant for gambling to bet.

Lack of planning is the reasons many individuals spend carelessly. You don't have to waste all your money on gambling. Gamblers lose more than they earn when gambling due to over betting therefore as a responsible gambler, you have to be planning so you don't lose control of your expenses and spend more money on gambling instead of investing into reliable investment that can give you more money.
and that person should minimize the risks from gambling by not using all the money he has earned by working so hard.

it may be enough to only set aside about 10% of his income to play in gambling. so he didn't sacrifice all the money and instead lost it all. I think 10% of income will have no effect on his life. and his desire to gamble had also been conveyed with just that money. Winning or losing is an afterthought, the important thing is to be able to manage your finances well so you don't suffer in the future.

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February 01, 2024, 09:37:44 AM
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Of course, in anything and everything you do for example in real life if it is done excessively it will be synonymous with results that are usually not good or even disappointing, especially if this is applied to gambling activities which in fact have absolutely no certainty and guarantee of anything at the end of the session, You will end up with two possibilities of winning or losing, it is really unknowable and this is the reason why it is really not recommended to overdo it in gambling, the worry is when you cannot accept the fact of losing and of course it can make you emotional and in the end gamble impulsively and end up with addiction. Another thing as I said above that addiction is the worst situation that exists in gambling, you can get into this situation unconsciously through emotional scenarios that take control of yourself in certain situations especially when you are on a losing streak due to overaction.

You have confirmed my statement above, so to be honest I really don't understand what some people say about not disputing or even advising the elderly to spend their retirement by engaging in gambling activities, as I said above that gambling is absolutely regardless of age, We are sentient beings in the sense that we are easily influenced by things, especially things that we cannot accept and that means that no matter if you are an elderly person if you are not a responsible enough gambler by nature then it is clear that eventually you will be able to enter the addiction phase unconsciously because gambling involves expectations which also means that when you put your hopes on winning then it is usually difficult to ignore the situation of losing which in turn makes a person more emotional and gamble with the aim of returning something that has been lost. It is a fact that addiction is a difficult problem to overcome, it is a disease that lies in one's mind and this is the reason why I previously said that addiction can only be overcome with the awareness and desire of the gambler himself.

The end of gambling is indeed two wins or losses, but in my opinion these two things are not factors that will definitely make them stop gambling, they may continue to gamble when they lose because it will make them curious, and even if they win only a few people can cash in on the winnings, most of them are addicted and produce them so they continue gambling. and with this it is tantamount to gambling excessively.

It's true, everyone will be easily influenced especially when it comes to profit or money, then everyone will certainly be easily influenced or tempted. because gambling involves profit even though it is not certain that it will be easily obtained but many people have been influenced by gambling so that they experience many losses. returning something that has been lost is just a silly thought especially if this happens in gambling, because it is clear that in gambling the chances of winning are very slim so there is no way they can return the money that has been lost for sure. If you're going to do gambling, you should be able to see all the bad effects if you can't control yourself properly. unless you really want to experience destruction in life then gambling excessively is one of the effective ways to do it, it's just that I don't think it's possible for anyone to want their life to be destroyed on purpose.

Of course, because there is one factor that makes them not want to stop gambling, namely "winning opportunities", this is what makes it difficult for a gambler to get out of his gambling activities, especially if the person is already addicted, as I said earlier that there is a hope factor that they put on winning opportunities, which means that this continues to encourage and encourage them to continue gambling until they get what they want, But what must be known is that the name "desire" or lust will never have the word "finish / end" which means they will never know and will never find the end of their gambling journey because there is no consistent word in winning to get a lot of money, which means they will only rotate in two results, namely today winning and tomorrow losing and losing becomes something that makes them even more curious, always like that without a time limit that is not determined, so the point is only they themselves can decide about when they have to stop.

Money is one of the most important things in life and everyone who lives needs money to support their lives and this is quite a realistic reason why many people end up addicted to it, they can't ignore a place that gives them the opportunity to earn money, but the problem is that people misunderstand how gambling works, after all it is always nothing more than a "chance" which means it has absolutely no certainty to become a reality unless they are really lucky. On the other hand as you said that in gambling the winning percentage is much smaller which means that losing can be more dominating and in the end for someone who is irresponsible they will get stuck in the cycle of "gambling to get back something that was lost", I have one friend who gambled with a budget of about $3 and he was one of those gamblers who could not accept the reality of losing which in the end the next time he thought of spending his entire salary of approximately $200 and ended up regretting it. this is the danger when you intend to get back something that was lost in gambling, however being a responsible gambler is more recommended.

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February 01, 2024, 10:10:40 AM
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If a person spends his entire salary on gambling, it means that he is not that he is not developing or standing still, he is clearly degenerating. Probably there are already problems in his head and they are quite serious. I think that such a person is not able to fight gambling addiction on his own. He needs the help of specialists and he should turn to them for help as soon as possible.

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February 01, 2024, 10:28:07 AM
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?

Having a source of income is not just enough or a guarantee in winning gambling or the best best to start playing gambling.  But I see, the problem we do have in gambling is that we are inpatient,  our mindset is just to make money so fast from gambling which we think it all about having the money to place a bet. Doing research before playing gambling will save us from lots of loses and dangerous effect in gambling.  

Their are many reason's why to make research before playing gambling,  is to know more about gambling companies to be sure which one is reputable to play gambling. Research is also important for gamblers to know the character one needs to exhibit that will be of help on how to handle gambling.  People easily fall into the hands of addiction because they do not have the understanding of how to go about gambling,  they just feel gambling is just about having money to play.

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February 01, 2024, 10:58:28 AM
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That's the way such gamblers always think, most of them think that they can make x3 or x5 of what they earning from gambling and that's what drives them to put all their interest and time into finding that big win that will make them happy but at the long run of things it's practically just stupidness and they only know when the whole issue has turn negative red for them and by that I mean being stagnant with the feeling of progression.
That's just their wishful thinking, producing x3, x5 or even x100 because they always imagine victory no matter how many losses they will experience.

But when they have a big win, they will always be proud and forget that it is time to go out.
But for gamblers who don't have any planing, they will continue to play with all those winnings.

Until finally the profit is lost and the initial capital also disappears.
Of course this makes them stressed, it is an act of stupidity that cannot be contained because they do not have a strategy.
Or discipline and a plan.
If a gambler has a planned amount on where he would get out then I think it can be a successful strategy. But there are gambler who has a plan but lacks discipline too. Let's say they will get out after $100 profit, I doubt their greed can be controlled because they will feel they are lucky so they will keep on going until rekt comes.
This has been the mistake for most gamblers and also the reason why all the gambling platforms either casinos or sports bookies are all successful. That's because we don't have the power to be satisfied. This is also one of the reasons why Steve Jobs's iPhone has never-ending sales. They just add one number to the iPhone brand and then all buyers will come again even though their iPhones are all brand new or the newest edition.
People are meant to be not satisfied with what they have, some even cross the line at selling their internal body parts just so they can afford their luxuries.
It's not different with gambling. Even though we are on a state of profits, we always say we ain't done yet. We always want more.

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February 01, 2024, 11:55:45 AM
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It's true, everyone will be easily influenced especially when it comes to profit or money, then everyone will certainly be easily influenced or tempted. because gambling involves profit even though it is not certain that it will be easily obtained but many people have been influenced by gambling so that they experience many losses. returning something that has been lost is just a silly thought especially if this happens in gambling, because it is clear that in gambling the chances of winning are very slim so there is no way they can return the money that has been lost for sure. If you're going to do gambling, you should be able to see all the bad effects if you can't control yourself properly. unless you really want to experience destruction in life then gambling excessively is one of the effective ways to do it, it's just that I don't think it's possible for anyone to want their life to be destroyed on purpose.
well, this means that everything in gambling will always provide temptations that are difficult to avoid and this is one thing that gamblers who want to start gambling really have to pay attention to because these temptations will usually appear unconsciously and when they are tempted and continue gambling, they will not be aware of what has been done beyond the budget limit and he will realize when his money has run out and experience regret, sadness and anger towards gambling and can encourage a novice gambler to pursue defeat and become addicted.
and from what you said that I quoted, I have come to the conclusion that something that beginner gamblers must really pay attention to is self control and planning budget limits to avoid running out of savings and if a beginner gambler is able to have good control and can manage budget, I'm sure in the long term there won't be any problems.

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It should be like that, before we start and get involved in gambling, do research first regarding our financial condition, daily activities and the responsibilities we are carrying out. Therefore, always determine clearly the maximum limit for the money we spend on gambling. This needs to be done to ensure that the gambling we do does not affect our daily activities and other financial responsibilities. So that the losses we experience in the gambling we do do not affect our financial balance. Next, apply a playing time limit because we don't want the gambling we do to influence and become an inhibiting factor for activities that are more important than just gambling. Especially if you are married and working, then it would be stupid for us to prioritize gambling above the responsibilities we are carrying out and other more important activities.

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Maybe this is based on what I have only seen, because I can't see everything, gambling addicts are the hardest to change, try all you can, if it work it's because the person wanted to change by all means, most addicted gamblers only dream of changing but they can't just help themselves, this ones are the hardest, they can even turn your worst enemy if you take things too far with them.

My advice is do what you think it's best for them depending on their level of addiction, if they aren't even trying so hard to beat the addiction on their own they don't deserve any help, but mind you, they will later learn, it might just be too late at the time.

Once gambling takes everything from some addicted gamblers, that will be their wake up call, so it's best not to do anything in the case of any addicted gambler that isn't trying so hard to stop his or her own addiction.

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@OP you need to know there are many adults who not matured enough, although I can't understand why it can happen since when we're already reach 20 years old, we can think between which thing is good and which thing is bad.

Such people need to be taught from beginning and very detail, as simple as how to eat. Normal people will don't have to be taught since it's easy. But this kind people you need to explain from: try to find a spoon, scoop your food, open your mouth, put the food inside your mouth, close your mouth, chew until small and swallow it.



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February 01, 2024, 02:34:44 PM
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Maybe this is based on what I have only seen, because I can't see everything, gambling addicts are the hardest to change, try all you can, if it work it's because the person wanted to change by all means, most addicted gamblers only dream of changing but they can't just help themselves, this ones are the hardest, they can even turn your worst enemy if you take things too far with them.


Also believe that a gambler addict changes because it is time for them to reconsider their habit and their mindset is telling them to stop, so at that stage any little effort on them to stop will work but if they are not yet considering it but only thinking of how to recover their loses and probably win some jackpots, you probably would try longer. There is time in the moment of a gambling addict that he wants to come out of it, so don't try to force it too much, just try but if it doesn't work then let go at the time and try some other time.

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February 01, 2024, 02:38:43 PM
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?

I think you have done your part about giving him advice with everything which revolved around his decisions. This really boils down on how he can stop his urges that clouds his judgement from making rationalize decisions.

I do think that another advice would be to explore activities outside gambling. For example, you can expose him to different hobbies (e.g. hitting the gym, outdoor activities, etc.) that makes him not want to think about gambling. If his mind is busy with other things, then he can use these new hobbies as his gateway and rest at the same time.

While this may be some advice that I could think of, it really goes to show that if the person is willing to help himself, then it may be achievable. But if he still continues his acts despite people telling him otherwise, the problem is really with him.
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February 01, 2024, 02:45:03 PM
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This individual is addicted to gambling and the proper thing his family or friends can do for him is to help him stop gambling, he can't stop gambling on his own as his addiction will always lead him back to gambling but with the help of a professional, he can overcome his addictions. He can also plan the money he used for gambling. When he received his salary, he shouldn't allocate all to gambling but divide them into different parts and only use those meant for gambling to bet.

Lack of planning is the reasons many individuals spend carelessly. You don't have to waste all your money on gambling. Gamblers lose more than they earn when gambling due to over betting therefore as a responsible gambler, you have to be planning so you don't lose control of your expenses and spend more money on gambling instead of investing into reliable investment that can give you more money.
Not all players lose more than they earn in gambling, and even if some of them lose more than they earn, this does not mean that they will become addicted because of it. If this does not have a negative impact on the budget, then there is nothing wrong with someone getting into gambling.

Perhaps before you start playing, it would be worthwhile to study how good you are at this, but I doubt that this is possible without real money. You can be a great player on a demo account, but once you start playing for real money everything changes, so in any case, only playing for real money will help you understand how good you are at gambling.

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February 01, 2024, 02:49:10 PM
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When I see the concern of doing research before gambling, I see an unseriousness in the individual because gambling is supposed to be from the wealth of knowledge that one has gathered over time.
It's good to do research though, but having to be particular about it makes it no more fun and more or less like a career venture that one intends to undertake.

Learn the basics and develop your style or strategy as it is known and the rest has to do with one gambling with the amount of money one can afford to loose, and nothing more.

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February 01, 2024, 03:16:01 PM
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?

What's your relationship with that person? If you are truly close to him, discuss his problem with his spouse or girlfriend and also tell his parents that he's already on the road to becoming a much more addicted person to gambling.

A suggestion to just allocate the percentage of his salary to gambling won't work because once the limit has been reached, temptation will follow.

What about his status as a normal person prior doing gambling? Is he still responsible for other things despite being addicted to gambling now?

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February 01, 2024, 03:49:26 PM
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If a person spends his entire salary on gambling, it means that he is not that he is not developing or standing still, he is clearly degenerating. Probably there are already problems in his head and they are quite serious. I think that such a person is not able to fight gambling addiction on his own. He needs the help of specialists and he should turn to them for help as soon as possible.
He will only experience problems if he spends his entire salary on gambling and will not be able to meet his daily needs. He needs to realize that he has to allocate funds for gambling and his daily needs so that he can see how much limit he has for gambling and must not exceed the limit. If he always violates his boundaries, he will only have gambling addiction problems without realizing it because he just sees that gambling has now become something important for him. He wanted to win from gambling until he developed a gambling addiction. He really needs to get help from the people around him to take him to a specialist so he can get the right help.

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If a person is engaged in betting and wants to earn with their help, it is necessary to study the object for betting in detail, and try to bet on something where something depends on the person. And do not believe that different people get huge jackpots - usually casinos allow you to win large sums of money to acquaintances of the founders for promotional purposes
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