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February 01, 2024, 05:12:44 PM
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If a person spends his entire salary on gambling, it means that he is not that he is not developing or standing still, he is clearly degenerating. Probably there are already problems in his head and they are quite serious. I think that such a person is not able to fight gambling addiction on his own. He needs the help of specialists and he should turn to them for help as soon as possible.
He will only experience problems if he spends his entire salary on gambling and will not be able to meet his daily needs. He needs to realize that he has to allocate funds for gambling and his daily needs so that he can see how much limit he has for gambling and must not exceed the limit. If he always violates his boundaries, he will only have gambling addiction problems without realizing it because he just sees that gambling has now become something important for him. He wanted to win from gambling until he developed a gambling addiction. He really needs to get help from the people around him to take him to a specialist so he can get the right help.

Sometimes I wonder why a person whom gambling is frustrating will still remain stuck there even when it is causing him pain. I thought people actually learn from their mistakes, so don't addicted gamblers learn from their own mistakes and quit doing what is causing them pain? Consistently spending a huge part of his salary on gambling, even to the extent of becoming broke is a big cause for alarm. We certainly cannot help someone who is not interested in being helped, he must first admit that he wants to be helped. If he does not admit, all efforts of help from people will be in vain, but if he admits, cooperation and mutual agreement will be achieved, with this we can trust the healing process.



Once gambling takes everything from some addicted gamblers, that will be their wake up call, so it's best not to do anything in the case of any addicted gambler that isn't trying so hard to stop his or her own addiction.

This is actually true for most addicted gamblers but why wait till you are damaged before you seek for help? Gamblers need to be very conscious. Once you begin to do abnormal things just to gamble, then you have to call yourself to order. No addicted gambler enjoys being addicted, especially when persistent huge losses are involved.  The earlier you realise your errors, the better for you.

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February 01, 2024, 05:36:04 PM
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The person is working hard and spend the money he earned on gambling and he is not moving forward but stagnant like someone that has no job. That is enough to be a good lesson for him. If you still see that he continues to gamble, let him know that the ending will not still favour him. He will be regretting and thinking that he can still make money from gambling thinking that his strategies might work, tell him not to be deceiving him than not to gamble again until he has control over it. Gambling budget should not be more than 1 to 5% if his weekly income. If he is not gambling for fun, he should not be gambling is the best.
I agree with your point that gambling budget should never be more than 1-5% of total income if someone spends more than this then it can be understood that he is very addicted to gambling and he is using gambling as a source of income not for fun. If he does, he should do a lot of research before gambling. But a gambler who uses gambling only for fun purposes does not need any resources and can start gambling anytime just for fun by spending some money. But he must invest the amount of money that he can afford to lose

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February 01, 2024, 06:18:22 PM
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If a person spends his entire salary on gambling, it means that he is not that he is not developing or standing still, he is clearly degenerating. Probably there are already problems in his head and they are quite serious. I think that such a person is not able to fight gambling addiction on his own. He needs the help of specialists and he should turn to them for help as soon as possible.
He will only experience problems if he spends his entire salary on gambling and will not be able to meet his daily needs. He needs to realize that he has to allocate funds for gambling and his daily needs so that he can see how much limit he has for gambling and must not exceed the limit. If he always violates his boundaries, he will only have gambling addiction problems without realizing it because he just sees that gambling has now become something important for him. He wanted to win from gambling until he developed a gambling addiction. He really needs to get help from the people around him to take him to a specialist so he can get the right help.

Sometimes I wonder why a person whom gambling is frustrating will still remain stuck there even when it is causing him pain. I thought people actually learn from their mistakes, so don't addicted gamblers learn from their own mistakes and quit doing what is causing them pain? Consistently spending a huge part of his salary on gambling, even to the extent of becoming broke is a big cause for alarm. We certainly cannot help someone who is not interested in being helped, he must first admit that he wants to be helped. If he does not admit, all efforts of help from people will be in vain, but if he admits, cooperation and mutual agreement will be achieved, with this we can trust the healing process.
Because their desire to get back the money they lose. There are some gambler who just can't move on with their losses, most of them are just planning to break even and just quit after getting the break even goal. But the more you chase on gambling is the higher chance you lose. Even if they know that they exceed their allotted gambling funds, they still try to play by spending more just to at least break even.

It's just that there are gamblers who don't realize that they are an addict, those type of gambler needs some outside help from others. Making them realize that they need some help.

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February 01, 2024, 06:20:37 PM
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The end of gambling is indeed two wins or losses, but in my opinion these two things are not factors that will definitely make them stop gambling, they may continue to gamble when they lose because it will make them curious, and even if they win only a few people can cash in on the winnings, most of them are addicted and produce them so they continue gambling. and with this it is tantamount to gambling excessively.

It's true, everyone will be easily influenced especially when it comes to profit or money, then everyone will certainly be easily influenced or tempted. because gambling involves profit even though it is not certain that it will be easily obtained but many people have been influenced by gambling so that they experience many losses. returning something that has been lost is just a silly thought especially if this happens in gambling, because it is clear that in gambling the chances of winning are very slim so there is no way they can return the money that has been lost for sure. If you're going to do gambling, you should be able to see all the bad effects if you can't control yourself properly. unless you really want to experience destruction in life then gambling excessively is one of the effective ways to do it, it's just that I don't think it's possible for anyone to want their life to be destroyed on purpose.

Of course, because there is one factor that makes them not want to stop gambling, namely "winning opportunities", this is what makes it difficult for a gambler to get out of his gambling activities, especially if the person is already addicted, as I said earlier that there is a hope factor that they put on winning opportunities, which means that this continues to encourage and encourage them to continue gambling until they get what they want, But what must be known is that the name "desire" or lust will never have the word "finish / end" which means they will never know and will never find the end of their gambling journey because there is no consistent word in winning to get a lot of money, which means they will only rotate in two results, namely today winning and tomorrow losing and losing becomes something that makes them even more curious, always like that without a time limit that is not determined, so the point is only they themselves can decide about when they have to stop.

Money is one of the most important things in life and everyone who lives needs money to support their lives and this is quite a realistic reason why many people end up addicted to it, they can't ignore a place that gives them the opportunity to earn money, but the problem is that people misunderstand how gambling works, after all it is always nothing more than a "chance" which means it has absolutely no certainty to become a reality unless they are really lucky. On the other hand as you said that in gambling the winning percentage is much smaller which means that losing can be more dominating and in the end for someone who is irresponsible they will get stuck in the cycle of "gambling to get back something that was lost", I have one friend who gambled with a budget of about $3 and he was one of those gamblers who could not accept the reality of losing which in the end the next time he thought of spending his entire salary of approximately $200 and ended up regretting it. this is the danger when you intend to get back something that was lost in gambling, however being a responsible gambler is more recommended.

It is true that their thinking only thinks about winning, which makes it difficult for them to stop gambling, including winning, most gamblers when they win can change their motives, where maybe at the beginning they gambled with a target, but after reaching the desired target they changed their motives. It is possible that they will return to gambling because they want a bigger win that they can get, because maybe the win they have already got makes them believe they can still get an even bigger win, but this is of course not certain, because the defeat factor is still there and still applies.

that's true, because some people say that gambling can make you rich in a short period of time, unfortunately in my opinion that's not true, because it's impossible for them to get rich quickly just by gambling, of course if they want wealth or financial freedom they have to work hard because that's for sure. In my opinion, what happened to your friend is something that is common in gambling, because it also happens because of the winning factor that he wants to get, it is possible that he did that because he really wanted to get a big win that could cover all his losses, including making a profit, but what Surely all of that won't just happen. Also I think the chance of winning in gambling is only 1%, and 99% of it is losing. Therefore, if you gamble with large bets or deposit large amounts of money, you must consider it carefully. Don't regret it at the end.

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It's true, everyone will be easily influenced especially when it comes to profit or money, then everyone will certainly be easily influenced or tempted. because gambling involves profit even though it is not certain that it will be easily obtained but many people have been influenced by gambling so that they experience many losses. returning something that has been lost is just a silly thought especially if this happens in gambling, because it is clear that in gambling the chances of winning are very slim so there is no way they can return the money that has been lost for sure. If you're going to do gambling, you should be able to see all the bad effects if you can't control yourself properly. unless you really want to experience destruction in life then gambling excessively is one of the effective ways to do it, it's just that I don't think it's possible for anyone to want their life to be destroyed on purpose.
well, this means that everything in gambling will always provide temptations that are difficult to avoid and this is one thing that gamblers who want to start gambling really have to pay attention to because these temptations will usually appear unconsciously and when they are tempted and continue gambling, they will not be aware of what has been done beyond the budget limit and he will realize when his money has run out and experience regret, sadness and anger towards gambling and can encourage a novice gambler to pursue defeat and become addicted.
and from what you said that I quoted, I have come to the conclusion that something that beginner gamblers must really pay attention to is self control and planning budget limits to avoid running out of savings and if a beginner gambler is able to have good control and can manage budget, I'm sure in the long term there won't be any problems.

That's right, because gambling has a very strong attraction or temptation, many people gamble to the point of becoming addicted because they can't control themselves well. With the temptation of gambling, I think everyone agrees that gambling has power. strong pull. obviously they will be tempted by gambling and subconsciously they will become addicted to gambling to the point where they can spend a lot of money gambling, and it's true that when they lose a lot of money I think they will regret it, but that doesn't mean they will stop gambling, because that's possible. they can gamble again with the motive of wanting to recover losses that have occurred.

because I think it can make gambling that is done to remain safe, I mean it can reduce risks or avoid risks that will occur, because with good self-control I think they can limit their gambling, when they lose they will stop, in other words, not deposit. return their money to chase victory because that is the wrong thing, also when they win they don't continue with careless actions, they immediately cash in the winnings they have obtained because they know that if they continue winning, they will most likely only suffer a defeat which will make the winnings they have obtained disappear. back, and I think this includes self-control.

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February 01, 2024, 06:44:32 PM
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In gambling what you need is luck because you may make your research from different ways but you will not have the opportunity to win, so secondly its good for someone to know gambling before the person gambles, because gambling have advantages and disadvantages and when you have the disadvantages at hand you may likely win gambling very well, sometimes making a research is not what that will guarantee you winning in gambling, so being luck is one of the elementary concepts that gives people the chance of making gain or profits in gambling
I don't think the research op is talking about is relevant to gambling. All the bettor will pray for is luck but research would be much better for does that are about to invest in bitcoin, for people that  just starting betting should take the casinos policy serious. And you have to understand gambling before starting will make everything easier. Because you cannot understand gambling if you don't know how to select your games. Everything has its advantage and disadvantages but the disadvantages is more than the advantages because people are clearly misusing it. And when they get too attached to it don't want to even try anything else but gamble all day and even act as if they get a job.

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February 01, 2024, 07:04:56 PM
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In gambling what you need is luck because you may make your research from different ways but you will not have the opportunity to win, so secondly its good for someone to know gambling before the person gambles, because gambling have advantages and disadvantages and when you have the disadvantages at hand you may likely win gambling very well, sometimes making a research is not what that will guarantee you winning in gambling, so being luck is one of the elementary concepts that gives people the chance of making gain or profits in gambling
I don't think the research op is talking about is relevant to gambling. All the bettor will pray for is luck but research would be much better for does that are about to invest in bitcoin, for people that  just starting betting should take the casinos policy serious. And you have to understand gambling before starting will make everything easier. Because you cannot understand gambling if you don't know how to select your games. Everything has its advantage and disadvantages but the disadvantages is more than the advantages because people are clearly misusing it. And when they get too attached to it don't want to even try anything else but gamble all day and even act as if they get a job.

I say that to bet you don't have to do much Research , All you have to do is Learn to Understand the game, things can look like this , I Always go to Play because things can stay that way , if there is Nothing you know I'm not going to start playing a game in Which I'm going to make money with my money without Knowing what it's like , I wouldn't do that, it would be Stupid , the best Thing here is to Always start doing things better, that is , I have to have full I know how I should Play to see if I can do it and gain expertise, otherwise I wouldn't do it Anymore.

What we must be careful when Betting , if we are not Careful when betting , then we Will lose Money , that is the delicate thing , we Cannot allow Ourselves to be Carried Away by what we Supposedly must take care of in every way , money is the Most Important thing in a Casino , There is no way to do things Better if you Start doing them in a Crazy way , otherwise things Should not be done that Way.



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February 01, 2024, 07:08:57 PM
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In gambling what you need is luck because you may make your research from different ways but you will not have the opportunity to win, so secondly its good for someone to know gambling before the person gambles, because gambling have advantages and disadvantages and when you have the disadvantages at hand you may likely win gambling very well, sometimes making a research is not what that will guarantee you winning in gambling, so being luck is one of the elementary concepts that gives people the chance of making gain or profits in gambling
I don't think the research op is talking about is relevant to gambling. All the bettor will pray for is luck but research would be much better for does that are about to invest in bitcoin, for people that  just starting betting should take the casinos policy serious. And you have to understand gambling before starting will make everything easier. Because you cannot understand gambling if you don't know how to select your games. Everything has its advantage and disadvantages but the disadvantages is more than the advantages because people are clearly misusing it. And when they get too attached to it don't want to even try anything else but gamble all day and even act as if they get a job.

I say that to bet you don't have to do much Research , All you have to do is Learn to Understand the game, things can look like this , I Always go to Play because things can stay that way , if there is Nothing you know I'm not going to start playing a game in Which I'm going to make money with my money without Knowing what it's like , I wouldn't do that, it would be Stupid , the best Thing here is to Always start doing things better, that is , I have to have full I know how I should Play to see if I can do it and gain expertise, otherwise I wouldn't do it Anymore.

What we must be careful when Betting , if we are not Careful when betting , then we Will lose Money , that is the delicate thing , we Cannot allow Ourselves to be Carried Away by what we Supposedly must take care of in every way , money is the Most Important thing in a Casino , There is no way to do things Better if you Start doing them in a Crazy way , otherwise things Should not be done that Way


Totally really just that common sense that whenever you do tend to play gambling which you havent been able to know or havent done yet then it would
be normal that you would really be finding out the mechanics or the ways on how to play it but we know that most of the games that we do have online
specially luck based ones doesnt really that having that technical kind of approach towards it on which you would really be that needing at least on the common sense or awareness
on how its done on which it wont really be that hard much.

You wont really be that indeed stupid if you do just make yourself hover into the gambling field as if you dont have any knowledge at least.
Of course you would really be that wary in towards your actions.

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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

For someone who is already addicted to gambling like this, it's not even advisable for you to tell him he should limit the way he gambles and the amount he spends on gambling.
 
I used to think that tips worked before, but now I see that the best thing for such a person to do is to stop gambling completely for the time being. It's not as if he doesn't gamble; he can't live.
 
You should advise him to stay away from gambling for as long as possible. He should see a therapist who can help talk him out of that and give him some professional counselling and recommendations.

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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

For someone who is already addicted to gambling like this, it's not even advisable for you to tell him he should limit the way he gambles and the amount he spends on gambling.
 
I used to think that tips worked before, but now I see that the best thing for such a person to do is to stop gambling completely for the time being. It's not as if he doesn't gamble; he can't live.
 
You should advise him to stay away from gambling for as long as possible. He should see a therapist who can help talk him out of that and give him some professional counselling and recommendations.

We can render out own help to them and that is of they have chosen to listen appropriately and acted upon every suggestions we have made, one thing I've noticed about some gamblers is that some things concerning them were easier said than being done, even they themselves could explain why.

But as fellow gamblers, we can choose to help and give our best and left for them to utilize every efforts rendered or not for their own good, we know it's not easy but we can also make it more easier for ourselves we we choose to be discipline with it, that is their own challenge.

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February 01, 2024, 07:49:09 PM
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We can render out own help to them and that is of they have chosen to listen appropriately and acted upon every suggestions we have made, one thing I've noticed about some gamblers is that some things concerning them were easier said than being done, even they themselves could explain why.

But as fellow gamblers, we can choose to help and give our best and left for them to utilize every efforts rendered or not for their own good, we know it's not easy but we can also make it more easier for ourselves we we choose to be discipline with it, that is their own challenge.
Do you also know that most of these gamblers don't even believe and agree that they have moved from being a normal gambler to a level of addiction? It's only when someone knows they are addicted that they can start looking for solutions.
 
Like you have said above, it's easier to say than to do. You can advise them to do one thing about their gambling behaviour, which will help them, and they will agree to do it, but the moment they try it once while you are still close to them or watching them, after you leave that premises, they will go back to their old gambling ehavior.
 
The best way I think we can help a gambler addict is if we are part of their family or close relatives. We can keep an eye on them, keep them busy, distract them, and let them know that staying without gambling is easy and that there are other ways to have fun and be entertained without even spending money.

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February 01, 2024, 07:56:14 PM
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?

Once someone is addicted with gambling it very tough to reverse him back. Most of the case they don't stop before losing everything. I am not sure what should I suggest actually. Maybe somehow you can try keep him away from the gamling environment,  it may help a little bit. For example if he play on online casino then maybe to keep away from mobile and pc device. If he plays in physical casino then keep him busy with other interested things during the time he normally goes to play.

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We don't know if he's got a family to take care of, if someone can help him with the addiction. The best idea for him would be to get someone to manage his wealth, for him, meaning that he'd have to cease his account to a family member and get that person to pay all his bills first and then give him whatever they both agree to. That would of course have to be a trusted person, which is why I asked if he's got a family, wife and children. If I had such a situation or my wife would be in one, I'd demand that she wires her wage to my account and I'd put a limit on her card that she'd be able to only withdraw a certain amount per day. In extreme cases your friend would need someone to exclude him from every possible casino in town and block his Internet access until he's able to control his addiction.

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February 02, 2024, 02:07:08 AM
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?

Having a source of income is not just enough or a guarantee in winning gambling or the best best to start playing gambling.  But I see, the problem we do have in gambling is that we are inpatient,  our mindset is just to make money so fast from gambling which we think it all about having the money to place a bet. Doing research before playing gambling will save us from lots of loses and dangerous effect in gambling.  

Their are many reason's why to make research before playing gambling,  is to know more about gambling companies to be sure which one is reputable to play gambling. Research is also important for gamblers to know the character one needs to exhibit that will be of help on how to handle gambling.  People easily fall into the hands of addiction because they do not have the understanding of how to go about gambling,  they just feel gambling is just about having money to play.
In fact, we really have to have income to start gambling because with that income we can gamble but there is no guarantee that we can win at gambling. Yes, that is the problems of every gamblers because all they think about is money and money, how their money can multiply easily, even though they should realize that gambling has a greater risky of losing and possibly causing addiction if it cannot be handled well. Before gambling, we should do research first before we enter the world of gambling.

It's a good idea for us before we start gambling to do research first so that we remain careful when gambling on gambling sites because if we enter a gambling site that doesn't have a reputation, it will be very dangerous, the money in your balance could be drained, your data will be misused, besides that, we It is also necessary to make yourself aware of being careful and having limit when gambling so as not to become addicted because when someone is involved with money, they will easily be provoked which will ultimately lead to addictions.

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February 02, 2024, 03:46:52 AM
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I have this kind of story for the first time that the hard working people are also can be a addicted gambler. Actually addiction is a bad thing gambling addiction can never be cured without personal effort. And so it should be highlighted in front of him that what kind of problems people have to face in life due to gambling addiction.
Many gamblers cannot control their emotions when playing. When emotions are not controlled, the brain will continuously tell you to always double your losses so that you can at least get back the money you have lost. This is a major problem for players that needs to be cured. Even though there are some players who can control this, it is only a small part.

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I have this kind of story for the first time that the hard working people are also can be a addicted gambler. Actually addiction is a bad thing gambling addiction can never be cured without personal effort. And so it should be highlighted in front of him that what kind of problems people have to face in life due to gambling addiction.
Many gamblers cannot control their emotions when playing. When emotions are not controlled, the brain will continuously tell you to always double your losses so that you can at least get back the money you have lost. This is a major problem for players that needs to be cured. Even though there are some players who can control this, it is only a small part.
actually that is called chasing losses mate and indeed that there are so many gamblers who falls from this gambling traps, this is the mindset gambling games telling our mind and so they are winning and we are losing ,
never chase losses instead allocate enough funds each set of gaming you will do for better and cheaper result.
because if you are going to win then that is not a matter of capital by all means instead it is about  how much luck will be with you that time.

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Before starting any kind of economic activity it is better to do some research, but what the OP says is not a question of research, it is a question of someone who has a problem and there is no research that is worthwhile.

Once someone is addicted with gambling it very tough to reverse him back. Most of the case they don't stop before losing everything. I am not sure what should I suggest actually.

I'm sorry but in those cases I prefer to stay away, unless it's your brother or a case like that. It has to be the person who makes a conscious decision about it, which they usually only do after they have hit rock bottom.

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I'm sorry but in those cases I prefer to stay away, unless it's your brother or a case like that. It has to be the person who makes a conscious decision about it, which they usually only do after they have hit rock bottom.

I hope it's easy to stay away when you are addicted with gambling, some people might be able to do that but there are also some that wouldn't stop until they lose everything they have. That kind of addiction is probably worse but it could happen to anyone of us if we don't have the discipline, like gambling thinking that there's no tomorrow, and doesn't want to stop gambling when losing, this kind of attitude will bring us to sure disaster.

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February 02, 2024, 05:19:47 AM
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Sometimes I wonder why a person whom gambling is frustrating will still remain stuck there even when it is causing him pain. I thought people actually learn from their mistakes, so don't addicted gamblers learn from their own mistakes and quit doing what is causing them pain? Consistently spending a huge part of his salary on gambling, even to the extent of becoming broke is a big cause for alarm. We certainly cannot help someone who is not interested in being helped, he must first admit that he wants to be helped. If he does not admit, all efforts of help from people will be in vain, but if he admits, cooperation and mutual agreement will be achieved, with this we can trust the healing process.
People are frustrated. They gamble because they experience bigger losses than they had previously anticipated. They do not immediately stop their gambling activities when they have lost several times and are instead emotionally triggered to spend more money because they think that they can win if they bet a lot of money. But they get more losses that they are not ready to see and become frustrated. This has been experienced by many people so if we don't want it to happen to us, we must try to prevent it from happening by always limiting the amount of money and adhering to that limit. There are many things we need to know before we start gambling, especially if we are unable to control ourselves when gambling for a while. We must be able to learn self-control and also learn how to set the betting amount because it involves using money to gamble.

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February 02, 2024, 06:56:53 AM
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Winning some money in the first few gambling sessions can be very dangerous for a gambler because that makes them think that they can always have the same results which makes them gamble a lot after those starting sessions. This is why a gambler should lose in their first couple of sessions when they are starting to gamble because that can save them from getting addicted to gambling.

The person that you are talking about, if he is your friend, you should help him out by keeping his money with yourself and only giving him a portion of it for gambling, or at least suggest him to do that with someone else if you can't do it. A family member should take that responsibility, and after a few months of doing that, he will hopefully get away from the addiction.
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