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Author Topic: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more?  (Read 9629 times)
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May 09, 2024, 09:38:37 PM
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No one is tired  of winning big,so anyone can risk more,whether rich or poor,I think anything can happen at anytime,thats why it's good to risk more.The rich can become rich today and he will eventually get broke tomorrow if the right thing was not done when he was rich,and at thesame time,if the poor keeps trying,God can eventually favour him and he gets rich tomorrow,but I see that the most important thing here is to keep on trying,keep on risking it because risk takers are future leaders and people that will decide what will happen and what not to happen tomorrow.
In this context the rich will keep losing if he doesn't use his brain to calculate and accept the obvious fact about gambling, because as far as I know gambling to both the rich and the poor way the same risk and at such whatever happens we have to develop a fundamental knowledge of the fact that gambling is a high risk and for that regardless of your class you need to apply that wisdom of not gambling with amount that is way above your risk level.

You need to develop that kind of mentality as even how rich you are but if you keep pushing yourself chances that you'll lose everything and become poorer than poor is not impossible to happen, we heard those stories about gamblers who over play their finances then become broke and regret their participation to gambling, to avoid that, you need to understand that it's better to play with money that you can spare it can be applied with both poor and rich gambler, it should be an amount that spare from your finances that you are willing to let go.
Possibilities is there and it do actually happens on which there are tons of rich people who do end up on living or sleeping on the streets just because they had made out themselves losing that control when it comes into their gambling activity. Whereas, if they had just that made themselves that being responsible on the actions that they have done then they might be able to avoid such condition.

It is really just that people are really that too delusional when it comes to gambling on where they've been thinking that they could hit up jackpots and despite of being rich they dont care about on the spending
and the loses that they do have that keeps on piling up. They would really be able to notice it out everything on the time that they dont have money into their pockets in the end.
Risking out money doesnt matter whether you are rich or not, on which the main thing that you would really be ale to experience is to wreck up your life on the time that you do find yourself making
irresponsible decisions on which you should have that avoid earlier if you are really just that been sensible or aware on the  things that happens around you.

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May 09, 2024, 09:42:55 PM
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It is good we know how to fix ourselves so we don't end up doing the wrong thing that would bring severe losses we might not be able to take.
Even if we know how to fix ourselves, many of us don't follow that command that we should fix ourselves first before we head back and gamble. The problem of many doesn't really show at the beginning when we gamble and whether you're poor or rich, it doesn't matter because this problem is going to exist to both people. IMO, fixing the mentality that we have and avoiding being emotional is going to help ourselves fixed.
So, whatever the results may be, we're not going to be heavily problematic with it and most are having hard time in moving on with their losses and stays there for quite a while. That shouldn't be it, as we gamble, risking the amount we can afford and moving on should be there at all times. You have to make sure that whichever is the result, you'd accept it lightly. If not, then do better some other days or just stop wholly so that it won't be heavy to your feelings and you can have a mindset that you should be glad you stopped early.

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May 10, 2024, 11:40:07 AM
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but, isn't it crazy that mind stuff is so much more valuable than body stuff (physical jobs, let's say)
and how speculation that most of the times doesn't generate anything at all pays way better than teaching or building stuff that truly changes people lives?

the world is crazy sometimes...

Yeah, value is king.

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May 10, 2024, 06:00:04 PM
 #704

~snip~
but, isn't it crazy that mind stuff is so much more valuable than body stuff (physical jobs, let's say)
and how speculation that most of the times doesn't generate anything at all pays way better than teaching or building stuff that truly changes people lives?

the world is crazy sometimes...

Yeah, value is king.

It doesn't matter who you are, if you can provide value, you will be rich.

If you are extremely talented, or smart, etc, but not provide value to people, you won't become rich. That's the reality.

That's just how the world works.

true, but sometimes value is intangible or not obvious at first glance
Van Ghog's artwork provides value to all humans but he didn't get rich at all during his life...
I guess it's trickier with art
but even with value it's not evenly distributed, otherwise bankers wouldn't make more money than the carpenter who grow our food (what do you think is more valuable?)

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May 10, 2024, 06:07:34 PM
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To take risks one must have a propensity to take risks. We often mistakenly think that people with a lot of money are risk takers, but in reality, the opposite may be true. For example, among two people, one person has a net worth of $1000 and the other person has a net worth of $1 billion. Here the first person gambled with a total of $700 from $1000 or did some other risky act while the second person gambled with only a few thousand dollars from his billion dollars.In this case the first person is taking more risk than the second person. Because the first person risked 70% of his money while the second person risked only a little of his total money. Risk taking depends entirely on the individual and the inclination of that individual to risk never depends on money.

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May 10, 2024, 06:13:30 PM
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Gambling an activity for fun also has the chance to turn someone's fortune. Calculated risk when taken in gambling can be the way to big wins from gambling. Who do you think should take more risk in gambling? The rich gambler or the gambler who is not yet rich. If a rich gambler takes risks in gambling, they are risking losing money and becoming poor from gambling, or getting richer, when a gambler who is not yet rich gambles, they can also get poorer or richer, so the gambler who should take the risk should be the gambler who can handle the dangers of the risk like losing too. When a rich gambler loses from taking a risk, there is a better chance of them being in a position to manage with the losses, than someone struggling financially who a big loss will really affect. So, I am confused after asking myself this question and answering it, does this mean a poor gambler should continue to play it safe in gambling? With no risk, how can a poor gambler change their fortune in gambling?

Generally, gambling act is associated with risk is risky already but considering the poor and the rich who risk more, I assumed you are referring to who put more resources in to gambling? If that be the case and from my observations within my localized locality I would say that it is the rich that risk more because they have what it takes to do that far better than the poor.

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May 11, 2024, 03:09:52 AM
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true, but sometimes value is intangible or not obvious at first glance
Van Ghog's artwork provides value to all humans but he didn't get rich at all during his life...
I guess it's trickier with art
but even with value it's not evenly distributed, otherwise bankers wouldn't make more money than the carpenter who grow our food (what do you think is more valuable?)

You can create enormous amounts of value for free if you want to (or don't know how to actually obtain payment for it)

For example, the entire modern society relies on a few open source projects that have a handful of developers, which mostly do it for free.

They provide a massive amount of value, for free, or donations based, etc.

The same concept applies.

For example, Steve Jobs and Dennis Ritchie had a very different approach to obtain fair payment for the value they created.

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May 11, 2024, 03:40:29 AM
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To take risks one must have a propensity to take risks. We often mistakenly think that people with a lot of money are risk takers, but in reality, the opposite may be true. For example, among two people, one person has a net worth of $1000 and the other person has a net worth of $1 billion. Here the first person gambled with a total of $700 from $1000 or did some other risky act while the second person gambled with only a few thousand dollars from his billion dollars.In this case the first person is taking more risk than the second person. Because the first person risked 70% of his money while the second person risked only a little of his total money. Risk taking depends entirely on the individual and the inclination of that individual to risk never depends on money.
The reason why people fill that the ones with lots of money are the highest risk takers is because they have enough money to spend on various things. And i wont doubt that fact because i have seen investors funding projects that they are not certain of the success of the project yet they are willing to fund more because they believe that investing would yield big return that is why they are diversifying their investment. When it comes to gambling such person can stake huge money because they know even if they lose such amount of money they can get it back within some time. An average or poor man only risk the little he have which is not enough for a maximum risk.

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May 11, 2024, 04:05:37 AM
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The risk placed by the rich is greater than that of the poor type of person. Because the rich have more money, the chances are higher that they are actually capable of having an opportunity to win a winning amount of money on a casino gambling platform here in the crypto space.

But they also take the same risk when playing gambling, whether it is traditional or in the crypto space that we live in today in this business industry.

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May 11, 2024, 03:34:05 PM
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To take risks one must have a propensity to take risks. We often mistakenly think that people with a lot of money are risk takers, but in reality, the opposite may be true. For example, among two people, one person has a net worth of $1000 and the other person has a net worth of $1 billion. Here the first person gambled with a total of $700 from $1000 or did some other risky act while the second person gambled with only a few thousand dollars from his billion dollars.In this case the first person is taking more risk than the second person. Because the first person risked 70% of his money while the second person risked only a little of his total money. Risk taking depends entirely on the individual and the inclination of that individual to risk never depends on money.
The reason why people fill that the ones with lots of money are the highest risk takers is because they have enough money to spend on various things. And i wont doubt that fact because i have seen investors funding projects that they are not certain of the success of the project yet they are willing to fund more because they believe that investing would yield big return that is why they are diversifying their investment. When it comes to gambling such person can stake huge money because they know even if they lose such amount of money they can get it back within some time. An average or poor man only risk the little he have which is not enough for a maximum risk.
Everyone works hard enough to earn money, maybe you are very rich and have enough money but you must be careful about your money. You never want your money to be completely lost or a part of your money to be badly damaged. Investing money means using that money to make more money. There are many rich people who have lost all their wealth just by gambling. For those who may have a lot of money, losing some money by gambling will not have much effect on their economic system, but the money they lose by gambling will have to wait some time to recover that money again.  
So I think everyone has illusions of money and with illusions of money everyone takes risks including gambling.

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May 11, 2024, 05:17:08 PM
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The risk placed by the rich is greater than that of the poor type of person. Because the rich have more money, the chances are higher that they are actually capable of having an opportunity to win a winning amount of money on a casino gambling platform here in the crypto space.

But they also take the same risk when playing gambling, whether it is traditional or in the crypto space that we live in today in this business industry.

I think if we talk about gambling then the possibility of risk will be directly proportional to the amount of winning opportunities, or what it means is if you say that rich people have a greater possibility of risk than poor people then yes it is true but we also have to remember that the possibility of winning by rich people can also be quite large because the amount of money they bet is also relatively large.

I don't think we can use the financial situation as a measure of who has a greater risk between the rich and the poor, because this is gambling where the possibility of risk depends on how the person treats his gambling activity, simply put if for example they treat gambling in an excessive way such as gambling with large amounts then obviously the possibility of losing the risk will also be large regardless of whether they are rich or poor.

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May 11, 2024, 05:55:25 PM
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The risk placed by the rich is greater than that of the poor type of person. Because the rich have more money, the chances are higher that they are actually capable of having an opportunity to win a winning amount of money on a casino gambling platform here in the crypto space.

But they also take the same risk when playing gambling, whether it is traditional or in the crypto space that we live in today in this business industry.
That depends on how those people can accept the risks because some rich gamblers can knows how to manage the risks on playing gambling so they don't lose too much money instead just use enough money to playing gambling. If those poor people can do the same thing like those rich gamblers, those poor gamblers doesn't have to lose much money but they can still hopes to wins the gambling games although not too big. People who can manages the risks will have a chance to minimize the big lose while they can enjoy the gambling games. But most people, no matters if they are rich or poor gamblers can gets tempts from gambling so that will makes them use more money to playing gambling. Gambling can be fun but gambling can also tempts them to keeps playing gambling using too much money. We must realizes about that and don't lets us gets tempts from gambling so we don't lose much money.

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May 11, 2024, 06:11:57 PM
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The risk placed by the rich is greater than that of the poor type of person. Because the rich have more money, the chances are higher that they are actually capable of having an opportunity to win a winning amount of money on a casino gambling platform here in the crypto space.

But they also take the same risk when playing gambling, whether it is traditional or in the crypto space that we live in today in this business industry.
Yes, this is only a nominal problem, that large groups of gamblers seem to lose a lot of money compared to poor people, they have their own financial capacity. Of course, if the poor experience defeat by having much less money than the rich, at least they will experience a fairly large loss with the finances and capital they risk at the gambling table. Risks and chances of winning. In my opinion, rich and poor both have risks. This depends on how someone struggles in playing the game.


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May 11, 2024, 06:13:31 PM
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I don't think we can use the financial situation as a measure of who has a greater risk between the rich and the poor, because this is gambling where the possibility of risk depends on how the person treats his gambling activity, simply put if for example they treat gambling in an excessive way such as gambling with large amounts then obviously the possibility of losing the risk will also be large regardless of whether they are rich or poor.
Yes, that's right and I also think there is no difference between rich and poor gamblers, it's just that as you said, it depends on the activity, that's true, let's say the rich gambler bets big money this weekend, he definitely knows that gambling is a risky game. of course he will bet, spending the money he is ready to lose according to the amount he wants to bet and according to the budget, this is done in just one day when they gamble, this is also not much different from poor gamblers who sometimes find it easier not to control themselves so they have to gambling all the time and spending small money all the time to make it big too.

So if it is said who takes the biggest risks and loses the most money, there is actually nothing different of course, it all goes back to the activity of the gambler, but this shouldn't be a question either, the point is how poor gamblers can learn from rich gamblers who gamble only for entertainment so that they are still under good control so they don't gamble outside the limits which makes them have to take big risks just hoping to win big even though it is clearly very difficult.  Wink

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May 11, 2024, 06:35:47 PM
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The risk placed by the rich is greater than that of the poor type of person. Because the rich have more money, the chances are higher that they are actually capable of having an opportunity to win a winning amount of money on a casino gambling platform here in the crypto space.

But they also take the same risk when playing gambling, whether it is traditional or in the crypto space that we live in today in this business industry.
Yes, this is only a nominal problem, that large groups of gamblers seem to lose a lot of money compared to poor people, they have their own financial capacity. Of course, if the poor experience defeat by having much less money than the rich, at least they will experience a fairly large loss with the finances and capital they risk at the gambling table. Risks and chances of winning. In my opinion, rich and poor both have risks. This depends on how someone struggles in playing the game.


I quite agree with your submission, but I think the long and short of this all is that both the rich and the poor experience loses according to the level of financial stability, those with large sum of money stand the risk of losing much more, while the poor with less amount of money at their disposal risk losing less, all boils down to their individual level of appetite for risk.

And one thing we must also note is that, its also possible for the poor man to lose money that he himself will consider as very huge, meanwhile, same amount of money for the rich man is absolutely nothing, example is one time I lost $100, I was very furious with myself and people around me because that money was way too much for me to lose at a go on gambling, but then, while chatting in a gambling group, and came across some one else who lost $5000 on the same game and didn't even appear to be angry about it lol. 😅

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May 11, 2024, 07:02:23 PM
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The risk placed by the rich is greater than that of the poor type of person. Because the rich have more money, the chances are higher that they are actually capable of having an opportunity to win a winning amount of money on a casino gambling platform here in the crypto space.

But they also take the same risk when playing gambling, whether it is traditional or in the crypto space that we live in today in this business industry.
Yes, this is only a nominal problem, that large groups of gamblers seem to lose a lot of money compared to poor people, they have their own financial capacity. Of course, if the poor experience defeat by having much less money than the rich, at least they will experience a fairly large loss with the finances and capital they risk at the gambling table. Risks and chances of winning. In my opinion, rich and poor both have risks. This depends on how someone struggles in playing the game.
Since financially they are not equal, an amount that looks huge for a poor man doesn't worth a thing in the hands of a rich person, that little money could worth a lot to the poor but maybe a token to the rich, so it actually depends according to financial abilities but in more case the rich are able to take on the risk better than a poor person since they don't depend on any financial aid from the gambling source but the poor would eagerly seek profit from every gambling he gets involved into, every penny used is worth for a poor person.
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The risk placed by the rich is greater than that of the poor type of person. Because the rich have more money, the chances are higher that they are actually capable of having an opportunity to win a winning amount of money on a casino gambling platform here in the crypto space.

But they also take the same risk when playing gambling, whether it is traditional or in the crypto space that we live in today in this business industry.

Yes, there is no doubt, the more money they earn, and the more money they can lose too, much more, but in terms of well-being they do lose a lot of money, but a lot because it does not affect their life, because they still have the greatest comfort, they do not have economic problems like going to ask for loans or credits to be able to make your personal expenses and from there not have problems in your life, then that is something that can have a lot of influence, because if there is not that type of concern then there is no probability of Falling into addiction, or if there is, the Probabilities are very low Because there is no worry, there is no pressure, there is no stress.

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May 11, 2024, 07:36:40 PM
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Since financially they are not equal, an amount that looks huge for a poor man doesn't worth a thing in the hands of a rich person, that little money could worth a lot to the poor but maybe a token to the rich, so it actually depends according to financial abilities but in more case the rich are able to take on the risk better than a poor person since they don't depend on any financial aid from the gambling source but the poor would eagerly seek profit from every gambling he gets involved into, every penny used is worth for a poor person.

that's correct, a huge amount for the poor could be a little change for the rich. Hence the rich risk more. The questions of who should risk more is dependent on their personality, based on their level of exposure and mindset we have some rich and poor folks who gamble based on their financial activities or their pre aim of gambling. Those who gamble for fun are likely to spend less in gambling while to those who gamble to make extra money might be risking more to make sure this dream come true for them

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May 11, 2024, 07:59:14 PM
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Since financially they are not equal, an amount that looks huge for a poor man doesn't worth a thing in the hands of a rich person, that little money could worth a lot to the poor but maybe a token to the rich, so it actually depends according to financial abilities but in more case the rich are able to take on the risk better than a poor person since they don't depend on any financial aid from the gambling source but the poor would eagerly seek profit from every gambling he gets involved into, every penny used is worth for a poor person.

that's correct, a huge amount for the poor could be a little change for the rich. Hence the rich risk more. The questions of who should risk more is dependent on their personality, based on their level of exposure and mindset we have some rich and poor folks who gamble based on their financial activities or their pre aim of gambling. Those who gamble for fun are likely to spend less in gambling while to those who gamble to make extra money might be risking more to make sure this dream come true for them

But there's another way to look at it.  Losing money gambling can really hurt, even if it doesn't seem like much to some.  A wealthy person might not care about dropping a hundred bucks, but for someone who's barely getting by each month, that could mean not paying their rent or utilities. 

It shouldn't ever get to the point where you actually need to win just to pay your basic expenses.  Because no one should bet money they cant afford to lose and  even if it's only 20 dollars.  Going to a casino and playing some slots is fine but don't gamble with bill money or anything else you critically need to get by.  Unfortunately, problem gamblers don't stick to this.
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Everyone works hard enough to earn money, maybe you are very rich and have enough money but you must be careful about your money. You never want your money to be completely lost or a part of your money to be badly damaged. Investing money means using that money to make more money. There are many rich people who have lost all their wealth just by gambling. For those who may have a lot of money, losing some money by gambling will not have much effect on their economic system, but the money they lose by gambling will have to wait some time to recover that money again.  
So I think everyone has illusions of money and with illusions of money everyone takes risks including gambling.

Yes, that is something that I can also see, everyone has their dreams, but it is worth highlighting something very logical, a millionaire or rich person has no basic need other than covering their markets, or covering medical needs because they have that super insured, a normal person, middle or lower class, of course, cannot afford to spend a lot and be calm because if by bad luck he ends up spending more than he should, he has to resort to unwanted things, such as For example, asking for loans, applying for credit, and that is something that financially has long-term consequences , because expenses tend to accumulate and it is not pleasant at all.

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