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October 10, 2025, 08:13:22 AM
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A person with a long-term mindset can never be an investor.
But it is people with bitcoin long term holding mentality that are considered or referred to as investors, so I am wondering where you got this your reasoning that people with long term mindset can never be investors. So tell me if they can never be investors what will they be? Your account is still new you should spend time reading some pages of the thread and get some insights it will do you a great deed.
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The main objective is to collect Bitcoin and hold it for the shord term.
Are you for real?? Is that your main objective or you are speaking for everyone in your category? Sorry to disappoint you we don't do that here. Here the main objective is to collect bitcoin and hold for the long term. I won't stop you from your main objective, but you have to take this your objective elsewhere so you don't contaminate our community.

Surely members will get confused in their expression of ideas or even proclaim that everyone shares the same objectives.  

This particular thread started out in March 2024, with questions about whether to buy or to sell BTC when BTC prices were in the $60k territory, and so we did largely top out in the $60ks and $70ks in early 2024 prior to the halvening, but then we also lingered between the upper $40ks and even getting back into the $70ks, and so largely staying between mid-$50k and upper $60k before breaking above that in November 2024.    

So this thread did not start as an investing thread - even though the trading versus investing has frequently come up as a topic, with a lot of the participants in this thread leaning towards investing rather than trading, even though I would not proclaim trading to be off topic in this thread, even though many of us tend to be against the idea of trading bitcoin.

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October 10, 2025, 08:33:20 AM
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A person with a long-term mindset can never be an investor.
But it is people with bitcoin long term holding mentality that are considered or referred to as investors, so I am wondering where you got this your reasoning that people with long term mindset can never be investors. So tell me if they can never be investors what will they be? Your account is still new you should spend time reading some pages of the thread and get some insights it will do you a great deed.
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The main objective is to collect Bitcoin and hold it for the shord term.
Are you for real?? Is that your main objective or you are speaking for everyone in your category? Sorry to disappoint you we don't do that here. Here the main objective is to collect bitcoin and hold for the long term. I won't stop you from your main objective, but you have to take this your objective elsewhere so you don't contaminate our community.

Surely members will get confused in their expression of ideas or even proclaim that everyone shares the same objectives.  

This particular thread started out in March 2024, with questions about whether to buy or to sell BTC when BTC prices were in the $60k territory, and so we did largely top out in the $60ks and $70ks in early 2024 prior to the halvening, but then we also lingered between the upper $40ks and even getting back into the $70ks, and so largely staying between mid-$50k and upper $60k before breaking above that in November 2024.    

So this thread did not start as an investing thread - even though the trading versus investing has frequently come up as a topic, with a lot of the participants in this thread leaning towards investing rather than trading, even though I would not proclaim trading to be off topic in this thread, even though many of us tend to be against the idea of trading bitcoin.

Although this thread started with buying and selling, I feel quite comfortable that it has turned towards Bitcoin investment. At present, we have come out of a very low speed, and in just one year, Bitcoin has been able to create its maximum growth, which we have been able to achieve huge benefits through investment. However, this thread has proven that investing in Bitcoin never causes loss. As a result of investing in Bitcoin for just one year, the maximum benefit has been achieved more than twice.
If you notice that the benefit generated by investing in Bitcoin through the DCA method is several times more than the capital you have invested in Bitcoin. Then if you can hold Bitcoin in this way for the next few years, then it will definitely be possible to achieve success in Bitcoin with the maximum benefit.

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What's the difference? Essentially, if we want to buy an asset, we definitely want to get the lowest price, right? It's simply a matter of timing to get the lowest price for an asset. Remember, markets don't always rise, and there's no harm in waiting for a reversal.
com'on man, sir jayjuangee has said this severally in this thread that waiting for the dip is not the best way to accumulate Bitcoin because you may never buy at all, since no one knows what Bitcoin might do next, and by waiting the dip you are waiting for may never come. And it's even more unwise if you are a low coiner or someone that is just starting out his accumulation journey, so just buy and accumulate without paying attention at the current price.
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In my opinion, the dip method is essentially the same as the DCA the key is to remain consistent and disciplined in setting aside or accumulating your investment assets.
This is actually misleading and you are very wrong in this your statement here, how is the DCA accumulating strategy that you buys weekly or monthly without paying attention to it price base on when your discretionary income is available, the same as the dip buying method where you wait to buy only the dip?
How are they the same?
Don't you know that with the DCA accumulating strategy you tend to buy at every price interval and even the lowest part of the dip that the person waiting for the dip may miss out thinking that it may dip even further, so i would Advice you to buy and accumulate Bitcoin with the DCA accumulating strategy than f****** around waiting for a dip that may never come.

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October 10, 2025, 09:07:09 AM
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A person with a long-term mindset can never be an investor.
But it is people with bitcoin long term holding mentality that are considered or referred to as investors, so I am wondering where you got this your reasoning that people with long term mindset can never be investors. So tell me if they can never be investors what will they be? Your account is still new you should spend time reading some pages of the thread and get some insights it will do you a great deed.
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The main objective is to collect Bitcoin and hold it for the shord term.
Are you for real?? Is that your main objective or you are speaking for everyone in your category? Sorry to disappoint you we don't do that here. Here the main objective is to collect bitcoin and hold for the long term. I won't stop you from your main objective, but you have to take this your objective elsewhere so you don't contaminate our community.
Surely members will get confused in their expression of ideas or even proclaim that everyone shares the same objectives.  

This particular thread started out in March 2024, with questions about whether to buy or to sell BTC when BTC prices were in the $60k territory, and so we did largely top out in the $60ks and $70ks in early 2024 prior to the halvening, but then we also lingered between the upper $40ks and even getting back into the $70ks, and so largely staying between mid-$50k and upper $60k before breaking above that in November 2024.    

So this thread did not start as an investing thread - even though the trading versus investing has frequently come up as a topic, with a lot of the participants in this thread leaning towards investing rather than trading, even though I would not proclaim trading to be off topic in this thread, even though many of us tend to be against the idea of trading bitcoin.
Although this thread started with buying and selling, I feel quite comfortable that it has turned towards Bitcoin investment.

Just because responses in the thread deviated from the original post, that does not cause the original post (or it's ideas) to no longer be on-topic, even if a large number of the posters here are speaking against the trading ideas that were contained in the OP.

At present, we have come out of a very low speed, and in just one year, Bitcoin has been able to create its maximum growth, which we have been able to achieve huge benefits through investment.

You have been registered on the forum for about 6 months longer than the start of this thread, so sure the BTC price has been pretty much continuously up during your time on the forum, at the time that this thread started and even going back to November 2022.  So, yeah, we have had mostly an UP dynamic with a few periods of flat and some short term corrections... so yeah, everyone is in profits as long as they errored on the side of accumulating through buying and holding and not selling.  That is what happens when we are in the price arena of all time highs.. which yeah, right now (and even today's dip down to $119,736, we have largely stayed within 5% of the ATH (of $126,272) from 3-4 days ago.

So yes. Everyone is largely in profits.  The investor is likely not going to be affected, and he may well be continuing to accumulate, yet there are also investors who don't know what to do.  They might not even know that an investor should not be thinking about selling (otherwise he will convert into a trader), but, yeah, guys who are new to bitcoin (such as within their first 4 years), might be confused about what they are supposed to do, and so threads like this one can be helpful to bat around ideas about what to do.

However, this thread has proven that investing in Bitcoin never causes loss.

Past performance does not guarantee future results. Sure, you can say that historically eveyone is in profits as long as they stayed focused on buying and holding.

However, it is inaccurate (and likely misleading) if you are suggesting that future profits are guaranteed based on BTC's past performance, even for investors.

As a result of investing in Bitcoin for just one year, the maximum benefit has been achieved more than twice.

So?

I would suggest the BTC price has been pretty much a steady grind up since November 2022, and if you are an investor, you should not be getting too worked up about BTC prices, especially if you have less than a whole cycle investing, unless you were agble to front load your investment, then sure, you might be o.k. and you might have average costs of your BTC below the 200-WMA, which happens to be at $53,615 right now.

If you notice that the benefit generated by investing in Bitcoin through the DCA method is several times more than the capital you have invested in Bitcoin. Then if you can hold Bitcoin in this way for the next few years, then it will definitely be possible to achieve success in Bitcoin with the maximum benefit.

Are you planning to sell in a few years?  You really think that you get maximum benefits in a few years?.. so let's say that you had been investing in BTC for 4-5 years, and let's say that the BTC price generally goes up during those 4-5 years whle you are DCA buying.  Are you really in a place to maximize your benefits from merely a 4-5 year investment period of DCA buying of BTC?   

Sure many guys DCA, yet there are other ways to invest, including lump sum buying and buying on dips.  I am not much of a fan of buying on dips for beginner investors, even though it could have its role, especially if guys supplement in periods that they might have lump sum funds come available and they might consider front running their bitcoin investment.

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 #9665

A person with a long-term mindset can never be an investor.
But it is people with bitcoin long term holding mentality that are considered or referred to as investors, so I am wondering where you got this your reasoning that people with long term mindset can never be investors. So tell me if they can never be investors what will they be? Your account is still new you should spend time reading some pages of the thread and get some insights it will do you a great deed.
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The main objective is to collect Bitcoin and hold it for the shord term.
Are you for real?? Is that your main objective or you are speaking for everyone in your category? Sorry to disappoint you we don't do that here. Here the main objective is to collect bitcoin and hold for the long term. I won't stop you from your main objective, but you have to take this your objective elsewhere so you don't contaminate our community.
This particular thread started out in March 2024, with questions about whether to buy or to sell BTC when BTC prices were in the $60k territory, and so we did largely top out in the $60ks and $70ks in early 2024 prior to the halvening, but then we also lingered between the upper $40ks and even getting back into the $70ks, and so largely staying between mid-$50k and upper $60k before breaking above that in November 2024.    
Surely this particular thread was created on an idea that where the price of Bitcoin rose to new highs and there was talk of whether it was a time to buy or a time to sell, given the times we were in. It was even commented that the problem with people is that they don't want to buy when the price is low but they want to buy when the price is high( Falling for greed) honestly Bitcoin is the safest currency at the moment. At the beginning of this thread, the price of Bitcoin was starting to rise to new highs. By the way, on March 6, 2024, Bitcoin was slightly above $66K, at which time everyone was waiting for it to reach the historic milestone.


Bitcoin Price March 2024 Chart  https://www.statmuse.com/money/ask/bitcoin-price-march-2024-chart

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So this thread did not start as an investing thread - even though the trading versus investing has frequently come up as a topic, with a lot of the participants in this thread leaning towards investing rather than trading, even though I would not proclaim trading to be off topic in this thread, even though many of us tend to be against the idea of trading bitcoin.
It is true that the content of this topic was not related to Bitcoin investment, it was originally intended to discuss Bitcoin trading, Although it has gradually become an investment-related topic, meaning many people here are now leaning towards investment. After scrolling through some of the early comments, it becomes clear that the discussion here was primarily about trading because I was also involved in it and then, after the price of Bitcoin reached a high level, I accidentally sold some, which I still regret to this day. So we need to stay in the buy and hold period, and get out of the panic and sell period if everyone has dreams of excelling in Bitcoin investing and has long-term goals.

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October 10, 2025, 09:17:21 AM
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 Sure many guys DCA, yet there are other ways to invest, including lump sum buying and buying on dips.  I am not much of a fan of buying on dips for beginner investors, even though it could have its role, especially if guys supplement in periods that they might have lump sum funds come available and they might consider front running their bitcoin investment.
Perhaps special reason why DCA will always be more preferred or in fact chosen over and over again in terms of bitcoin invest is the mere fact that is maximizes the power of compounding effect, this single reason has more power than every other method of bitcoin investment, as it gives you maximum profit in a long run why you figure out the rest of your live ongoingly, the little guys keep stacking for 10 years and above could possibly be reliable after they reach the over accumulation stage since most likely we all want a change in financial status and a retirement plan then DCA as you also prefer is the right process to reach such goals.

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October 10, 2025, 09:20:03 AM
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What's the difference? Essentially, if we want to buy an asset, we definitely want to get the lowest price, right? It's simply a matter of timing to get the lowest price for an asset. Remember, markets don't always rise, and there's no harm in waiting for a reversal.
Of course, everybody wants to buy an asset cheaper but bitcoin investment is different because you cannot predict the next price movement of bitcoin which makes the market very difficult to time. If you think that uou are smart enough and time the market to buy cheaper, you might end up waiting in vain without buying missing out the opportunities that you should have used to start building your bitcoin investment to a certain level.

It's wrong to be waiting in the ball park clueless of what you are doing, because you will end up having very little bitcoin in future when others will be making huge profits you will be sitting on the fence watching in regrets. This is why a new investor does not need to wait for the dip but start his bitcoin investment immediately provided that his discretionary income is available and be consistent with his weekly/monthly DCA for 4-10 years and above.

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In my opinion, the dip method is essentially the same as the DCA the key is to remain consistent and disciplined in setting aside or accumulating your investment assets.
Don't get it twisted because they aren't the same. Buying at the dip is waiting and in future, you will have little bitcoin which you bought once in a while due to waiting for no reason, while DCA is buying consistently every week irrespective of the price of bitcoin. DCA increases your bitcoin portfolio faster because you are adding to the size steadily, consistently and continuously.

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October 10, 2025, 10:00:03 AM
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A person with a long-term mindset can never be an investor.
But it is people with bitcoin long term holding mentality that are considered or referred to as investors, so I am wondering where you got this your reasoning that people with long term mindset can never be investors. So tell me if they can never be investors what will they be? Your account is still new you should spend time reading some pages of the thread and get some insights it will do you a great deed.
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The main objective is to collect Bitcoin and hold it for the shord term.
Are you for real?? Is that your main objective or you are speaking for everyone in your category? Sorry to disappoint you we don't do that here. Here the main objective is to collect bitcoin and hold for the long term. I won't stop you from your main objective, but you have to take this your objective elsewhere so you don't contaminate our community.

Surely members will get confused in their expression of ideas or even proclaim that everyone shares the same objectives.  

This particular thread started out in March 2024, with questions about whether to buy or to sell BTC when BTC prices were in the $60k territory, and so we did largely top out in the $60ks and $70ks in early 2024 prior to the halvening, but then we also lingered between the upper $40ks and even getting back into the $70ks, and so largely staying between mid-$50k and upper $60k before breaking above that in November 2024.    

So this thread did not start as an investing thread - even though the trading versus investing has frequently come up as a topic, with a lot of the participants in this thread leaning towards investing rather than trading, even though I would not proclaim trading to be off topic in this thread, even though many of us tend to be against the idea of trading bitcoin.

Although this thread started with buying and selling, I feel quite comfortable that it has turned towards Bitcoin investment. At present, we have come out of a very low speed, and in just one year, Bitcoin has been able to create its maximum growth, which we have been able to achieve huge benefits through investment. However, this thread has proven that investing in Bitcoin never causes loss. As a result of investing in Bitcoin for just one year, the maximum benefit has been achieved more than twice.
If you notice that the benefit generated by investing in Bitcoin through the DCA method is several times more than the capital you have invested in Bitcoin. Then if you can hold Bitcoin in this way for the next few years, then it will definitely be possible to achieve success in Bitcoin with the maximum benefit.

In the case of long-term investment, the possibility of profiting from Bitcoin is very high. However, we can never determine the future results by looking at the past. Because the Bitcoin market is never in anyone's hands, it is not managed by any bank or any person. It is completely decentralized, which means that no one has any control over it. Just because something has happened in the past does not guarantee that it will happen in the future. However, the risk is much lower in the case of long-term investment.

From the past to now, the price of Bitcoin has always gone up. It has fallen for some time, but after a few days of falling, it has created a new ATH again. The price of Bitcoin has increased in a year, so it does not mean that it will always increase. A person should invest for a long-term period, such as 5 to 10 years.

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Given that the two can actually complement one another, we might say that using DCA does not prevent anyone from purchasing the dip. I occasionally attempt to DCA on a regular basis as well, but I still buy more to profit from a sharp market decline. It's similar to cleverly combining the two tactics, particularly if you have enough extra cash on hand. I believe those men were attempting to convey the same idea, but perhaps their explanation was not sufficiently clear for everyone to understand.

First of all, DCA and DIP are two different investment methods. DCA is to buy regularly with the same amount of money every week or month. DIP is to buy aggressively when the market is falling. I think it is best to always buy through the DCA method. Because if a person waits to buy DIP, then it will never be the right decision. Because no one can tell when the market will fall. So a person should always buy and buy using the DCA method.

As you said, I do not like this method very much if you buy DIP along with DCA. Because you have money, buy. If you wait to buy DIP today, if the market does not fall and if it never goes to this price, then you have missed this opportunity to buy. So a person will be best off if he always buys using the DCA method.
It is true the DCA strategy is all about buying Bitcoin at different intervals with a fixed amount of money, but the knowledge we have gained from the Buy the dip, and hodl and the Buy buy buy or sell sell sell threads respectively, has made us understand it isn't compulsory to buy Bitcoin with a fixed amount of money if you are using the DCA strategy to accumulate Bitcoin so that you won't be under pressure to meet up to the regular amount of money you use to accumulate Bitcoin with the DCA strategy because your expenses can vary in some weeks or months. Don't make your DCA money a fixed amount of money; you can invest with the amount you want so that you won't be under pressure.

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October 10, 2025, 02:24:42 PM
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What's the difference? Essentially, if we want to buy an asset, we definitely want to get the lowest price, right? It's simply a matter of timing to get the lowest price for an asset. Remember, markets don't always rise, and there's no harm in waiting for a reversal. In my opinion, the dip method is essentially the same as the DCA the key is to remain consistent and disciplined in setting aside or accumulating your investment assets.
Mate you're wrong where I bolded your text, DCA method and the dip buying can never the same although am happy that you said ik your own opinion against we know that ones option can be wrong but it would've make sense if you understand what you were trying to say before you note it down here, asking question is not bad after all we are all learning but assuming thing you don't know can very dangerous considering the fact that we are dealing with different category of investors here, the newbies and the old folks, if an old read your your text, he might identify some lapses easily but for a newbie, he wouldn't know what is wrong here, infact he will assume that all you said is correct.

The dip method has to do with investors or a particular investor waiting to buy during the dip alone while the DCA method involves investors buying at all time consistently daily, weekly or monthly with what they can afford not minding if the market is down or high, these set of investors don't care about the price status of the market, they chase their goals understanding what continuity can bring overtime, infact DCA method don't have any limitation in terms of settling for a particular market status that's why it is been tagged as the most efficient and flexible method of investing in Bitcoin, so get it clear man.

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 Sure many guys DCA, yet there are other ways to invest, including lump sum buying and buying on dips.  I am not much of a fan of buying on dips for beginner investors, even though it could have its role, especially if guys supplement in periods that they might have lump sum funds come available and they might consider front running their bitcoin investment.
Perhaps special reason why DCA will always be more preferred or in fact chosen over and over again in terms of bitcoin invest is the mere fact that is maximizes the power of compounding effect, this single reason has more power than every other method of bitcoin investment, as it gives you maximum profit in a long run why you figure out the rest of your live ongoingly, the little guys keep stacking for 10 years and above could possibly be reliable after they reach the over accumulation stage since most likely we all want a change in financial status and a retirement plan then DCA as you also prefer is the right process to reach such goals.
DCA does not guarantee a maximum profits in the long run.
For me what is so special about the DCA strategy is
1.  the fact that it saves from the stress of wanting to time the market

2. I can use any available discretionary income

3. It is a sustainable investment approach with less or zero worries

4. It makes me to see myself as an investor even with the small size of Bitcoin I have

5. It encourages anyone that have a discretionary income to be part of the Bitcoin journey without wanting to be extremely rich or wealthy first .

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October 10, 2025, 03:35:18 PM
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yes it is wrong to say that long term investors only buy bitcoin whenever there is a dip .
What you said is what a new investor should follow
Yes, one can wait for dips if he keeps his investment consistent through DCA.

A trader always waits for dips but an investor manages his investment consistently and also saves for dips

A long term investor is ready to buy at any market price and does not want to miss the opportunity by waiting for dips

But a trader always guesses the dips and later loses his money
But a long term investor knows that Bitcoin is always the most valuable asset
waiting is not part of the strategy that is used in buying bitcoin. So saying that one can wait for a dip isn't a good idea and there is no way you can be waiting for a dip and still be consistent with your DCA , but rather you don't wait for a dip, you the dip whenever it occurs while still buying or accumulating bitcoin continuous and persistently. This can be achieved by setting out some percentage of your discretionary income and using it for buying the dips whenever it will occur while the remaining percentage is for your regular DCA. Therefore we don't wait for dips but rather we buy the dip, to avoid missing market opportunities and as a low coiner in other to be able to have a good portfolio in your holding you ought to be consistent with your DCA instead prioritising to wait for a dip that may never happen.
Hardyrobust, Lembo69 didn't specify or say that waiting is a part of the strategy used in buying Bitcoin; he was only giving an advice to investors who wish to buy the dip to wait for the dip, but before they do that, they should have an ongoing DCA strategy that will allow them to seize all the buying opportunities the market will present to them. Even if it's not advisable to wait for the dip, i think you are very wrong for saying that we can't wait for the dip because we can actually do that by reserving some portion of our discretionary income for the dip, and we continue accumulating Bitcoin with the DCA strategy, and if the dip happens, then we can use the discretionary income we kept for the dip to buy the dip.
I totally agree with of what you just said concerning dollar cost average, it is similar to what i was told if i want to buy Bitcoin that i will make use of dollar cost average because since I'm newbie  that i make use of dollar cost average which gives the room of buying Bitcoin in smaller quietity, and with the dollar cost average i call free my mind to allow my Bitcoin investments to run for years.
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October 10, 2025, 03:54:45 PM
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 Sure many guys DCA, yet there are other ways to invest, including lump sum buying and buying on dips.  I am not much of a fan of buying on dips for beginner investors, even though it could have its role, especially if guys supplement in periods that they might have lump sum funds come available and they might consider front running their bitcoin investment.
Perhaps special reason why DCA will always be more preferred or in fact chosen over and over again in terms of bitcoin invest is the mere fact that is maximizes the power of compounding effect, this single reason has more power than every other method of bitcoin investment, as it gives you maximum profit in a long run why you figure out the rest of your live ongoingly, the little guys keep stacking for 10 years and above could possibly be reliable after they reach the over accumulation stage since most likely we all want a change in financial status and a retirement plan then DCA as you also prefer is the right process to reach such goals.

I also really like the DCA method because it means we don't have to worry about whether the price of BTC is going up or down. The most important thing is to accumulate BTC and hold it for the long term. However, for those who prefer to buy all at once, there's nothing wrong with that as long as they know the right way to do it. But for beginners and everyone else, the DCA method is definitely the best and most suitable.

Um... I really like this discussion because many people here give good advice about the importance of the DCA technique as a strategy for accumulating BTC. Yes, I hope we can all be successful in investing in BTC for the long term and remain enthusiastic about continuing with DCA, so that we will eventually have a lot of BTC to fall back on in our old age or retirement. It seems like I will plan to hold BTC for more than 10 years because, of course, BTC will continue to have the potential to reach new all-time highs, so holding BTC for the long term is a wise decision.
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What's the difference? Essentially, if we want to buy an asset, we definitely want to get the lowest price, right? It's simply a matter of timing to get the lowest price for an asset.
If I ask you what the lowest price of bitcoin is what will be your answer? It is almost impossible for bitcoin to get  back to the lowest price, because the lowest price of bitcoin happens to be "$0.00099" historically. Or are you talking of the lowest price of the day or the week, month or even the year before making your purchase? Detecting the lowest price of bitcoin of a particular day won't be possible unless the day has ended, same goes to the week, month and year.
So how do you achieve your aim of buying at the lowest price?? These hazzles are the reasons why investors are encouraged not to only rely their accumulations on buying the dip alone. But someone who's buying with DCA method won't have to face any of these problems as you ain't bothered with what is lowest price and highest price. Your focus is just accumulation and gradually you are making progress while the person waiting for the lowest price is still waiting without any bitcoin in his possession.

 
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Given that the two can actually complement one another, we might say that using DCA does not prevent anyone from purchasing the dip. I occasionally attempt to DCA on a regular basis as well, but I still buy more to profit from a sharp market decline. It's similar to cleverly combining the two tactics, particularly if you have enough extra cash on hand. I believe those men were attempting to convey the same idea, but perhaps their explanation was not sufficiently clear for everyone to understand.

First of all, DCA and DIP are two different investment methods. DCA is to buy regularly with the same amount of money every week or month. DIP is to buy aggressively when the market is falling. I think it is best to always buy through the DCA method. Because if a person waits to buy DIP, then it will never be the right decision. Because no one can tell when the market will fall. So a person should always buy and buy using the DCA method.

As you said, I do not like this method very much if you buy DIP along with DCA. Because you have money, buy. If you wait to buy DIP today, if the market does not fall and if it never goes to this price, then you have missed this opportunity to buy. So a person will be best off if he always buys using the DCA method.
What's the difference? Essentially, if we want to buy an asset, we definitely want to get the lowest price, right? It's simply a matter of timing to get the lowest price for an asset. Remember, markets don't always rise, and there's no harm in waiting for a reversal. In my opinion, the dip method is essentially the same as the DCA the key is to remain consistent and disciplined in setting aside or accumulating your investment assets.
yes you are right. There are different strategies that can be used in accumulating bitcoin which to buy the dips is one of them. Buying the dips is not a bad strategy, it is only when the strategy is wrongly employed by the investor. Such as the investor waiting for a desire dips which they are not certain it may occur. To me this is wrong application of buy the dip strategy, because while waiting for a dip to occur there is tendency of an investor missing out in marketing opportunities. However, an investor can be accumulating bitcoin continuous using DCA strategy and at the same while setting aside some percentage of his discretionary income for buying the dips.

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 Sure many guys DCA, yet there are other ways to invest, including lump sum buying and buying on dips.  I am not much of a fan of buying on dips for beginner investors, even though it could have its role, especially if guys supplement in periods that they might have lump sum funds come available and they might consider front running their bitcoin investment.
Perhaps special reason why DCA will always be more preferred or in fact chosen over and over again in terms of bitcoin invest is the mere fact that is maximizes the power of compounding effect, this single reason has more power than every other method of bitcoin investment, as it gives you maximum profit in a long run why you figure out the rest of your live ongoingly, the little guys keep stacking for 10 years and above could possibly be reliable after they reach the over accumulation stage since most likely we all want a change in financial status and a retirement plan then DCA as you also prefer is the right process to reach such goals.
DCA does not guarantee a maximum profits in the long run.
For me what is so special about the DCA strategy is
1.  the fact that it saves from the stress of wanting to time the market

2. I can use any available discretionary income

3. It is a sustainable investment approach with less or zero worries

4. It makes me to see myself as an investor even with the small size of Bitcoin I have

5. It encourages anyone that have a discretionary income to be part of the Bitcoin journey without wanting to be extremely rich or wealthy first .



You are very correct, however I will love to add something very quick, DCA strategy was a strategy that has helped a lot of people to achieve some Bitcoin and again for the fact that Bitcoin was divided into small units called satoshi it made it very easy and with $1 you can buy Bitcoin, now if you don't have the money to buy one Bitcoin at once you can then buy it in space of 1, 2, 3 or 4 years if you are consistent and determine to do it, DCA strategy of accumulation made Bitcoin investment for everyone.
Some set of business or investment even the middle class can't venture into it because the starting price is so expensive even though there's a lot of profit from that business or investment you can't start it because of the money required, however Bitcoin investment even though it is one of the best investment right now in the world is still very easy to start and what made it this easy is DCA strategy.

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 Sure many guys DCA, yet there are other ways to invest, including lump sum buying and buying on dips.  I am not much of a fan of buying on dips for beginner investors, even though it could have its role, especially if guys supplement in periods that they might have lump sum funds come available and they might consider front running their bitcoin investment.
Perhaps special reason why DCA will always be more preferred or in fact chosen over and over again in terms of bitcoin invest is the mere fact that is maximizes the power of compounding effect, this single reason has more power than every other method of bitcoin investment, as it gives you maximum profit in a long run why you figure out the rest of your live ongoingly, the little guys keep stacking for 10 years and above could possibly be reliable after they reach the over accumulation stage since most likely we all want a change in financial status and a retirement plan then DCA as you also prefer is the right process to reach such goals.

To date, it must be acknowledged that the DCA method is indeed one of the most rational investment methods, especially in volatile assets such as Bitcoin. DCA not only reduces the risk of buying at peak prices, but also builds financial discipline, which is the foundation of long term investment success. By accumulating regularly without being influenced by market conditions, one can slowly build a solid portfolio. Use discretionary funds to accumulate in order to avoid emotional decisions. Furthermore, if we look deeper, many people fail not because they chose the wrong assets, but because they cannot maintain consistency and patience in their investments. DCA is not just a strategy, but also a tangible form of patience and belief in the long term value of the assets held. DCA also provides opportunities for anyone, regardless of how small their capital is, as everyone has the same chance to participate in the process of building long term wealth in a simple yet highly effective way.

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October 10, 2025, 04:58:13 PM
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 Sure many guys DCA, yet there are other ways to invest, including lump sum buying and buying on dips.  I am not much of a fan of buying on dips for beginner investors, even though it could have its role, especially if guys supplement in periods that they might have lump sum funds come available and they might consider front running their bitcoin investment.
Perhaps special reason why DCA will always be more preferred or in fact chosen over and over again in terms of bitcoin invest is the mere fact that is maximizes the power of compounding effect, this single reason has more power than every other method of bitcoin investment, as it gives you maximum profit in a long run why you figure out the rest of your live ongoingly, the little guys keep stacking for 10 years and above could possibly be reliable after they reach the over accumulation stage since most likely we all want a change in financial status and a retirement plan then DCA as you also prefer is the right process to reach such goals.
DCA method makes you see the value of those amount you see as nothing in the overtime time, it makes us see how profitable it can be for investors to invest in bitcoin consistently and hodl for a long-term, it shows the effect of consistency with whatever investors are comfortable to invest with in bitcoin as time pass by, one good thing about DCA method and why invesors will continue to see it as the best method of investing in bitcoin is, every investor can actually invest with as low as 1bucks daily, weekly or monthly consistently and as long as they will be able to increase the amount in the future, it is stress free, as matter of fact as some who is DCAing you can buy in lump sum when the amount is ready and also by buy aggressively during the dips and still be be practicing your DCA method i think this the beauty of this method of investing in bitcoin.


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October 10, 2025, 05:05:54 PM
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Given that the two can actually complement one another, we might say that using DCA does not prevent anyone from purchasing the dip. I occasionally attempt to DCA on a regular basis as well, but I still buy more to profit from a sharp market decline. It's similar to cleverly combining the two tactics, particularly if you have enough extra cash on hand. I believe those men were attempting to convey the same idea, but perhaps their explanation was not sufficiently clear for everyone to understand.

First of all, DCA and DIP are two different investment methods. DCA is to buy regularly with the same amount of money every week or month. DIP is to buy aggressively when the market is falling. I think it is best to always buy through the DCA method. Because if a person waits to buy DIP, then it will never be the right decision. Because no one can tell when the market will fall. So a person should always buy and buy using the DCA method.

As you said, I do not like this method very much if you buy DIP along with DCA. Because you have money, buy. If you wait to buy DIP today, if the market does not fall and if it never goes to this price, then you have missed this opportunity to buy. So a person will be best off if he always buys using the DCA method.
What's the difference? Essentially, if we want to buy an asset, we definitely want to get the lowest price, right? It's simply a matter of timing to get the lowest price for an asset. Remember, markets don't always rise, and there's no harm in waiting for a reversal. In my opinion, the dip method is essentially the same as the DCA the key is to remain consistent and disciplined in setting aside or accumulating your investment assets.
yes you are right. There are different strategies that can be used in accumulating bitcoin which to buy the dips is one of them. Buying the dips is not a bad strategy, it is only when the strategy is wrongly employed by the investor. Such as the investor waiting for a desire dips which they are not certain it may occur. To me this is wrong application of buy the dip strategy, because while waiting for a dip to occur there is tendency of an investor missing out in marketing opportunities. However, an investor can be accumulating bitcoin continuous using DCA strategy and at the same while setting aside some percentage of his discretionary income for buying the dips.

I disagree with you, the definition you gave is not true because buying the dip simply means waiting for the Dip before one will buy if actually that is the Method or strategy one is using to accumulate or buy Bitcoin and then in lump sum, you don't necessarily need to wait for the Dip before lump summing rather when you have a good discretionary income you can execute..., the people who are not suppose to wait for the Dip are investor that are not using the buy Dip method but sometimes investors that uses the DCA method also prepare and wait for this dip to come while they are investing little by little so don't get it wrong.

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October 10, 2025, 05:10:33 PM
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The best price time to buy a coin is during it's retracement state where it has made a new all time high showing attempts to climb in price then you wait for a retracement and that is the best time to buy a coin.
Mean while the best time to sell is when the coin is overbought and the buying pressure shows signs of weekends after it has successfully made a new all time high. It doesn't matter how productive a coin is even if it is bitcoin there is always a better price to invest than just randomly investing know that it will go up any way.

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