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October 12, 2025, 04:46:47 PM
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Those who think that investing will bring them success in a short time, but this is very wrong, they need to change their thinking, you have to be stable in the long term, those who become impatient in the market, or those who are afraid due to instability, can never survive here, and because of this they can never achieve long-term success in Bitcoin, it is important for you to have a long-term mindset when investing in Bitcoin, because from the history of Bitcoin, we can clearly understand that Bitcoin is always very unstable, but it tends to be very valuable in the long term.
In real terms short term investors are seen as traders or gamblers, they think that bitcoin inveyising is for quick money failing to understand the futuristic advantage and outcome of bitcoin investment, i think some people should follow the ways of whales, they keep piling up bitcoin stash, they don't get tired, they don't care about the price of bitcoin today, what they are after is the amount of bitcoin they have been able to accumulate so far in the long run, I have been listening to news and watching different videos of how some people keep regretting how they would've pulled some stash of their profit out even some person that i know that they just started this journey no long ago, this got me thinking if those guys were actually in for this investment or pretending to be in for long term but having otherwise in their mind, opportunity to invest heavily in bitcoin keep falling out on daily bases but some people keep ignoring it, i think I have heard some people talk about buying the dip, you will still see the same complain about the recent sharp market decline instead buying very aggressively, I think long term investors are secret achievers, they gradually on steady bases without what they are comfortable with knowing fully well that the future is what matters.

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October 12, 2025, 05:43:52 PM
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You are absolutely right, investing in Bitcoin should never be compared to greed.
Investing is saving for the future and some people may consider investing as greed due to lack of proper information.

We should try to gain more knowledge about Bitcoin and be interested in investing for our financial well-being.
Basically, make use of both opportunity and age because if we do not invest now despite the opportunity, we will have nothing to do but regret it at the end of our lives.

So starting investing now will be profitable. For the future

Investing could be greed if you are overdoing it, and you are making mistakes that involve being overly aggressive and not taking proper preparations with your cashflow management and/or your back up funds... including investing beyond your discretionary income.

Let’s be real, Sometimes “investing” isn’t strategy, it’s it could be greed in disguise. Here’s how you know you’ve crossed the line from smart investor to a greedy gambler, for example; If you’re investing with money meant for rent, food, or emergencies, you’re not investing, you’re hoping luck saves you. Again greed kicks in when you ignore risk tolerance, you’re chasing 100% returns but can’t handle a 10% dip. "putting all your eggs in” sounds cool until the market flips. No diversification, No backup plan, Just pure YOLO. That’s not confidence, that’s greed with a cape. When you’re chasing every pump like it’s your ticket out the trenches, It’s not hustle but FOMO investing as Fast profits fade and Discipline pays. Skipping research because “everyone’s buying it”? Bro, that’s not alpha, that’s autopilot greed.Reinvesting every profit without pausing to review equals burnout waiting to happen. Using debt to “double down” on investments? That’s not bold, that’s borrowing disaster. The moment you forget why you started, freedom, stability, legacy and focus only on more, you’ve turned investing into an addiction and if no gain ever feels enough, If you keep chasing highs just to feel alive, That’s greed whispering, “One more trade.” Real wealth isn’t built by chasing. It’s built by managing risk, respecting money, and knowing when to stop. Discipline should be greater than desire, and Strategy should be greater than greed.

Lastly invest what you can afford to let go, and invest to hold for long term that's the smartest play with Bitcoin because with the trajectory of BTC you would most definitely 😁 smile at the end of the day
let's be realistic here, I do not consider any kind of investment in Bitcoin to be any form of greed, as a matter of fact it takes self discipline and a great deal of integrity for one to invest in Bitcoin which is a legitimate platform and for anyone to even think of someone else's investment as being greedy is somewhat demeaning in my own opinion, perhaps there are so many people out there that have the resources but would rather invest in stuff that are not even as realistic as Bitcoin, some even prefer gambling in casinos which is more greedy and addictive not Bitcoin.
Yes, I agree with you. Because if you are immersed in the world of fantasy, you will lose reality. Investing in Bitcoin is never greedy. Because I invest to earn money, this is my business. And if business is greedy, then those who work have the same purpose, to earn money. So what do you say about working for greed? Some choose jobs and some choose business to manage their lives properly and beautifully. I have taken up business through investment. So investing in Bitcoin is never greedy. With honesty, discipline and patience, the desired success is possible in investing.
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October 12, 2025, 05:51:20 PM
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I was just thinking that when there is a very bad news that had a bad impact on the stocks and the crypto does it really mean that people sell so much of the coins that the prices of Bitcoin and altcoins fall like water ? I am talking about the recent dump which liquidated almost everyone who was in future trade.

According to my analysis not all people sell coins it is basically the stop losses which get hits and the market moves further down and then quickly gains momentum back making a large wick.

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October 12, 2025, 05:59:44 PM
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The best price time to buy a coin is during it's retracement state where it has made a new all time high showing attempts to climb in price then you wait for a retracement and that is the best time to buy a coin.

How do you know that there is going to be a retracement?

There have likely been guys who have been waiting for a retracement since November 2022, and the BTC price has gone pretty much up ever since, so they are kinds of screwed if they don't have enough coin and they had not been buying during that time.



Most Investors seems to proclaim about something they don't know, imagine the time wasted in the sake of waiting for retracement. From November 2022  till date is approximately 3years, imagine if this guys had maintain the ongoing buying of bitcoin using the DCA or lump sum I'm Sure they would have being looking into getting to the middle of thier accumulation journey instead of thinking about getting started, this is how most people make decisions without looking at it's side effect which may not happen when you expected. This will probably happen in the future when a guy must have forgotten.and when this happened, then guys will realize what they have done to themselves.
You have analyzed it very well, the debate of Buy the dip or Sell the dip has been going on for a long time, but investors may be giving more priority to Buy the dip. Many may say that which is the best strategy for investment, I think the best strategy for investment is to be patient and hold your investment for a long time.

Currently, we have noticed some dumping in the Bitcoin market and during this temporary dumping, there are many investors who are selling their investments, that is, all these investors are giving importance to the temporary price, but those who are real investors are holding their investments even in these difficult times and they will hold their investments for a long time. Regardless of whether the price of Bitcoin increases or decreases, those investors who are increasing their portfolio by investing in DCA investment strategy will achieve something good from the investment at the end of a certain period. 

When the market dumped heavily in 2022, many investors sold their investments, but there were some investors who trusted the market at that time and now they have made hundreds of percent profits. One important thing in investing is patience, those who become impatient in investing can never achieve anything good from their investments.
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October 12, 2025, 06:17:12 PM
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Those who think that investing will bring them success in a short time, but this is very wrong, they need to change their thinking, you have to be stable in the long term, those who become impatient in the market, or those who are afraid due to instability, can never survive here, and because of this they can never achieve long-term success in Bitcoin, it is important for you to have a long-term mindset when investing in Bitcoin, because from the history of Bitcoin, we can clearly understand that Bitcoin is always very unstable, but it tends to be very valuable in the long term.

You don't need to stress much mate, volatility would definitely play it role and deal with them then they'll learn that Bitcoin is a long-term investment and not the other way round, Bitcoin investment is not something that someone should into with fear or sell at any slight dip investor just need to buy according to their discretionary and do it consistently for a longer period then hope that the future would be better and so far, we've seen Bitcoin improve over time so there's hope that it would keep improving which is why fear shouldn't be entertained.

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October 12, 2025, 06:54:53 PM
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Yes, we've seen a significant decline, but it's important to remember that patience is essential in these situations. There's a concept in human psychology for these situations: Prospect Theory.

I don't know if you've heard of this theory, but people tend to focus more on the amount they lose than the amount they gain. Therefore, during times of such major crashes, it's best to be patient and perhaps stay away for a while. If you act on this sentiment, you'll be swept up in a wave of panic selling and lose your long-term investments prematurely. I'm a long-term Bitcoin believer. There will certainly be times like these, but the key is patience and looking ahead. I believe regular investment is always a guaranteed gain.

Of course, patience is a virtue to attaining any height.  But I keep asking, if investors already know the floating and/or fluctaution nature of Bitcoin, been fully aware that dips might come at anytime, shouldn't they be prepared for such Dip?, like adopting accumulation Strategies that's allows them be able to Hodl there Bitcoin assets during these Dip period, knowing that at a long run, if we Hodl it, Bitcoin has the potential of giving back much more value and worth in years? Why accumulating Bitcoin under pressure or using your main income to accumulate Bitcoin without settling your basic needs, and when Dip comes, you fear of loosing everything and then, you hurriedly sell, sometimes even in lose just so you can have a little thing to your self?

To me, frankly speaking, it sounds so unwise to me, that a Bitcoin investor knows that Bitcoin fluctuates, and can drop down to a very low state at anytime, and then still goes ahead to invest in Bitcoin with income that is very much needed to do other stuffs, funds like emergency funds, or even your main income just to boost your holdings. Isn't this putting your self into panic and  pressure, and also putting your personal needs to stop or suffering on the other hand because you wouldn't be able to meet up with basic needs when the need arises.

This is why it is largely adviced that investors should ensure to use there discretionary income for accumulation, after settlement of basic needs. This gives you free hands and makes you in charge of your investment journey, that even in face of Dips, just like this recent decilne in price, you wouldn't be panicking or running to sell off rather too quickly. We must learn to invest in the right way, so that we can achieve our long term budget of accumulating of Bitcoin and Hodl.

Well, it is very unwise not to inform investors to understand how to use his or her discretionary income in the process of accumulation
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manage and take fully in charge after multiple expenses.
Bitcoin being an asset so investors should get parepared that dip might comes up soon because long term hold is key to achievement.

Our discretionary income is our decision on how to use it, even though you’re telling people how to use their discretionary income, you can only give them a suggestion it doesn’t really mean that they will be using it to buy bitcoin, unless an individual have decided they are ready to start investing in bitcoin.

People have discretionary income, they can decide to buy some alcohol from it, and also buy cigarettes, and buy some expensive cloths, and pay for tickets to watch the NBA, or watch soccer games, or going to a club, but the question would be whether that is really reasonable enough, because they can actually decide to invest in bitcoin something that would be more beneficial to them, instead of using money for something that isn’t beneficial, and bitcoin doesn’t stop anyone from enjoying their life or having fun.
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October 12, 2025, 07:04:57 PM
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Funny where you said some traders,are we talking about traders or are we not trying to point out a good method that can be helpful for everyone to buy at all time,
Basically, traders do not play a role in investing they only play a role in trading because they make short-term plans. On the other hand, investing means believing in long-term stability and goal achievement.

When a trader buys Bitcoin, he sells it as soon as he sees a small profit.

But an investor never decides to sell his investment before his main goal. For this, an investor is always more thoughtful and patient than a trader.

Trading and gambling are the same thing because both increase people's blood pressure.

The current falling market is a happy mood for an investor because at the current market price they will be able to accumulate more BTC.

And the next cycle is the basis for future happiness for the saver through the DCA strategy.

Remember that every fall creates an opportunity to start anew, so it is really wise to use the opportunity.

A lot of investors chooses to go for short term goal because they only think of making quick money  but not realizing that long term investment is for future purpose. But for the long term they are always mightfu , consistent and patients  if the price of Bitcoin raising they  are not panic because they  knew the present of the market conditions.
I was told and i believe so that those investors that choose Short term are called the gamblers, and such investors always placed their focus on the fluctuation of Bitcoin for them to know when it is the best time for them to trade in other to making a quick income.


They are not just called gamblers rather they are also known and called traders, people who are so impatient and are interested in getting rich overnight forgetting that things doesn't work that way. Anyone who gets rich overnight will only be by virtue of luck otherwise there's no such thing because all principles and protocol must be fully observed and followed. Sometimes what causes or make some people go about Bitcoin this way is misinformation or misconception, some people give wrong information while some people give right information but the information is been interpret wrongly or apply wrongly.
Those who think that investing will bring them success in a short time, but this is very wrong, they need to change their thinking, you have to be stable in the long term, those who become impatient in the market, or those who are afraid due to instability, can never survive here, and because of this they can never achieve long-term success in Bitcoin, it is important for you to have a long-term mindset when investing in Bitcoin, because from the history of Bitcoin, we can clearly understand that Bitcoin is always very unstable, but it tends to be very valuable in the long term.

The idea that it is not possible to achieve success by investing in Bitcoin in the short term is completely wrong. To achieve success by investing in Bitcoin, you must consistently manage long-term investments and by patiently holding it for a long time, it is possible to protect yourself from future profits and inflation. Along with investing in Bitcoin, gain knowledge, it is not at all right to take extra time to invest. Gradually, a person can gain specific knowledge about Bitcoin and can also hold a large amount of Bitcoin with him. There is no right time to invest in Bitcoin. Your small investments today can gradually reach your specific goals.

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October 12, 2025, 07:05:24 PM
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People who are only investing in bitcoin for the long term are the once meant to be called investors, right now that their is a so much anticipated dip in the price of bitcoin most people would definitely take the opportunity of buying more bitcoin because they are excited about the dip and it’s an opportunity for them, but their are also people who are investing in bitcoin that wouldn’t have an opportunity of buying the dip, because they already bought bitcoin before the unprecedented dip, bitcoin is always volatile and it’s very hard to predict the price of bitcoin, which is why many people wouldn’t have the opportunity of buying through the dip.

However people who have different cashflow and people who also have other financial flexibility would definitely know how to keep money aside for taking the opportunity of buying a dip, but right now people who do not have a so much grate income to discretionary, would rather prefer buying little by little through the DCA.
The easiest strategy to invest in Bitcoin is to buy Bitcoin with the money that have after spending on essentials. Experienced investors should make good use of all the strategies for Bitcoin accumulation because the strategies have been developed depending on the market situation. All strategies can be used when needed, and only the strategy that is needed can be used. I think it is best if someone uses both strategies. For example: doing DCA regularly and keeping some cash in reserve, so that if there is a big dip like this time that can buy more. If anyone have extra money in hand, their should not neglect any opportunity. Because it also involves long-term stacking, and anyone can also profit from market volatility.

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I was just thinking that when there is a very bad news that had a bad impact on the stocks and the crypto does it really mean that people sell so much of the coins that the prices of Bitcoin and altcoins fall like water ? I am talking about the recent dump which liquidated almost everyone who was in future trade.

According to my analysis not all people sell coins it is basically the stop losses which get hits and the market moves further down and then quickly gains momentum back making a large wick.
You seems to be laying too much emphasis on trading and that is making me think otherwise about your mindset, and what do you mean by Crypto? And what crypto are you talking about, and what coin are you laying emphasis on, because you’re getting me confused with your statement, and you will eventually get beginners confused with your statements, well I must say that if you know bitcoin very for someone who is an investor, you will not be feeling scared when there is a downturn in the bitcoin price there is alway going to be a bear market, like you said the market will always gain momentum.

However you should be more specific giving reference on Bitcoin by calling it crypto, which is why I would be more confused on what you’re talking about, you could Come down to the basic knowledge I will understand.











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Those who think that investing will bring them success in a short time, but this is very wrong, they need to change their thinking, you have to be stable in the long term, those who become impatient in the market, or those who are afraid due to instability, can never survive here, and because of this they can never achieve long-term success in Bitcoin, it is important for you to have a long-term mindset when investing in Bitcoin, because from the history of Bitcoin, we can clearly understand that Bitcoin is always very unstable, but it tends to be very valuable in the long term.
In real terms short term investors are seen as traders or gamblers, they think that bitcoin inveyising is for quick money failing to understand the futuristic advantage and outcome of bitcoin investment, i think some people should follow the ways of whales, they keep piling up bitcoin stash, they don't get tired, they don't care about the price of bitcoin today, what they are after is the amount of bitcoin they have been able to accumulate so far in the long run, I have been listening to news and watching different videos of how some people keep regretting how they would've pulled some stash of their profit out even some person that i know that they just started this journey no long ago, this got me thinking if those guys were actually in for this investment or pretending to be in for long term but having otherwise in their mind, opportunity to invest heavily in bitcoin keep falling out on daily bases but some people keep ignoring it, i think I have heard some people talk about buying the dip, you will still see the same complain about the recent sharp market decline instead buying very aggressively, I think long term investors are secret achievers, they gradually on steady bases without what they are comfortable with knowing fully well that the future is what matters.

Indeed, patience is the greatest strength in the Bitcoin market. I think back to 2018, when many people panicked and sold but those who held on to it laughed later. Every decline is actually an opportunity if one can think in the long term.

People who are only investing in bitcoin for the long term are the once meant to be called investors, right now that their is a so much anticipated dip in the price of bitcoin most people would definitely take the opportunity of buying more bitcoin because they are excited about the dip and it’s an opportunity for them, but their are also people who are investing in bitcoin that wouldn’t have an opportunity of buying the dip, because they already bought bitcoin before the unprecedented dip, bitcoin is always volatile and it’s very hard to predict the price of bitcoin, which is why many people wouldn’t have the opportunity of buying through the dip.

However people who have different cashflow and people who also have other financial flexibility would definitely know how to keep money aside for taking the opportunity of buying a dip, but right now people who do not have a so much grate income to discretionary, would rather prefer buying little by little through the DCA.
The easiest strategy to invest in Bitcoin is to buy Bitcoin with the money that have after spending on essentials. Experienced investors should make good use of all the strategies for Bitcoin accumulation because the strategies have been developed depending on the market situation. All strategies can be used when needed, and only the strategy that is needed can be used. I think it is best if someone uses both strategies. For example: doing DCA regularly and keeping some cash in reserve, so that if there is a big dip like this time that can buy more. If anyone have extra money in hand, their should not neglect any opportunity. Because it also involves long-term stacking, and anyone can also profit from market volatility.
The DCA and reserve fund strategy in particular is really effective as the combination of the two helps investors stay steady even in volatile markets, However, I think that just knowing the strategy is not enough mental preparation is equally important. Many new investors get excited when they hear buy the dip but no one knows when the dip will end, In the end there is no substitute for patience and consistency to survive in Bitcoin.
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People who are only investing in bitcoin for the long term are the once meant to be called investors, right now that their is a so much anticipated dip in the price of bitcoin most people would definitely take the opportunity of buying more bitcoin because they are excited about the dip and it’s an opportunity for them, but their are also people who are investing in bitcoin that wouldn’t have an opportunity of buying the dip, because they already bought bitcoin before the unprecedented dip, bitcoin is always volatile and it’s very hard to predict the price of bitcoin, which is why many people wouldn’t have the opportunity of buying through the dip.

However people who have different cashflow and people who also have other financial flexibility would definitely know how to keep money aside for taking the opportunity of buying a dip, but right now people who do not have a so much grate income to discretionary, would rather prefer buying little by little through the DCA.
The easiest strategy to invest in Bitcoin is to buy Bitcoin with the money that have after spending on essentials. Experienced investors should make good use of all the strategies for Bitcoin accumulation because the strategies have been developed depending on the market situation. All strategies can be used when needed, and only the strategy that is needed can be used. I think it is best if someone uses both strategies. For example: doing DCA regularly and keeping some cash in reserve, so that if there is a big dip like this time that can buy more. If anyone have extra money in hand, their should not neglect any opportunity. Because it also involves long-term stacking, and anyone can also profit from market volatility.

I don't understand what you mean by the bold words and the last time I checked that is not a strategy, there are only three (3) strategies to invest in Bitcoin which are the Dollar cost averaging (DCA method), Buy dip and Hodl and lastly the lump sum method or stretagy. DCA method was not develop because of any market situation because the DCA method can be use at any given price or value of the market and as such it is the best strategy so far when it comes to Bitcoin investment because it has help a lot of people without strong or good financial strength to still scale through.

 
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Yes, we've seen a significant decline, but it's important to remember that patience is essential in these situations. There's a concept in human psychology for these situations: Prospect Theory.

I don't know if you've heard of this theory, but people tend to focus more on the amount they lose than the amount they gain. Therefore, during times of such major crashes, it's best to be patient and perhaps stay away for a while. If you act on this sentiment, you'll be swept up in a wave of panic selling and lose your long-term investments prematurely. I'm a long-term Bitcoin believer. There will certainly be times like these, but the key is patience and looking ahead. I believe regular investment is always a guaranteed gain.

Of course, patience is a virtue to attaining any height.  But I keep asking, if investors already know the floating and/or fluctaution nature of Bitcoin, been fully aware that dips might come at anytime, shouldn't they be prepared for such Dip?, like adopting accumulation Strategies that's allows them be able to Hodl there Bitcoin assets during these Dip period, knowing that at a long run, if we Hodl it, Bitcoin has the potential of giving back much more value and worth in years? Why accumulating Bitcoin under pressure or using your main income to accumulate Bitcoin without settling your basic needs, and when Dip comes, you fear of loosing everything and then, you hurriedly sell, sometimes even in lose just so you can have a little thing to your self?

To me, frankly speaking, it sounds so unwise to me, that a Bitcoin investor knows that Bitcoin fluctuates, and can drop down to a very low state at anytime, and then still goes ahead to invest in Bitcoin with income that is very much needed to do other stuffs, funds like emergency funds, or even your main income just to boost your holdings. Isn't this putting your self into panic and  pressure, and also putting your personal needs to stop or suffering on the other hand because you wouldn't be able to meet up with basic needs when the need arises.

This is why it is largely adviced that investors should ensure to use there discretionary income for accumulation, after settlement of basic needs. This gives you free hands and makes you in charge of your investment journey, that even in face of Dips, just like this recent decilne in price, you wouldn't be panicking or running to sell off rather too quickly. We must learn to invest in the right way, so that we can achieve our long term budget of accumulating of Bitcoin and Hodl.

Well, it is very unwise not to inform investors to understand how to use his or her discretionary income in the process of accumulation
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manage and take fully in charge after multiple expenses.
Bitcoin being an asset so investors should get parepared that dip might comes up soon because long term hold is key to achievement.

Our discretionary income is our decision on how to use it, even though you’re telling people how to use their discretionary income, you can only give them a suggestion it doesn’t really mean that they will be using it to buy bitcoin, unless an individual have decided they are ready to start investing in bitcoin.

People have discretionary income, they can decide to buy some alcohol from it, and also buy cigarettes, and buy some expensive cloths, and pay for tickets to watch the NBA, or watch soccer games, or going to a club, but the question would be whether that is really reasonable enough, because they can actually decide to invest in bitcoin something that would be more beneficial to them, instead of using money for something that isn’t beneficial, and bitcoin doesn’t stop anyone from enjoying their life or having fun.
It does not really mean that you should use all your Discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin, it is not even advisable as a human to use all your discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin whenever you are being paid salary, what you should do is use part of your discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin and then hold the rest because as a human you will usually want to purchase one thing or the other, like for me I use part of my discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin and then hold some part of discretionary income I usually use it for some things I love going to a bar or going to cinema to see a movie with my girlfriend and some fun things I do also.
I see some set of people that say they use all their discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin, well everyone is different there are some people they usually don't go out and because of that they don't spend a lot so if they have food in the house and other basic items they are okay for the month or for the week until they receive their next salary those kind of people can use all their discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin and it won't affect them, if you are not that kind of person please do not use all your discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin because you will end up dipping hands into your bitcoin at an early stage which is very bad for your investment, you can decide to use all your dictionary income if you have a backup funds that will always help you out.
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let's be realistic here, I do not consider any kind of investment in Bitcoin to be any form of greed, as a matter of fact it takes self discipline and a great deal of integrity for one to invest in Bitcoin which is a legitimate platform and for anyone to even think of someone else's investment as being greedy is somewhat demeaning in my own opinion, perhaps there are so many people out there that have the resources but would rather invest in stuff that are not even as realistic as Bitcoin, some even prefer gambling in casinos which is more greedy and addictive not Bitcoin.

Yep, you know i have search  around bitcoin investment to see if there is any area that a guy can be term for being greedy but no idea. So I have come to conclusion that there is nothing like greed in bitcoin investment, so long as bitcoin investment is not mandatory.

Just like you said earlier that there are some folks out there who prefer to engage themselves into other things instead of bitcoin even if it's the least Investment or business they wouldn't mind, because they feel that the risk in bitcoin investment is very big for them to persevere. Which they can't be forced to do that and we can't even say that they're greedy because they're doing what they think is best for them, so whoever you see investing into bitcoin really deserve an award because is not easy to coop considering the higher volatility yet guys don't feel panic instead they keep staying more stronger so there's nothing like greed here moreover I think they need to be encore some respect no matter how small thier weekly purchase is.

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I was just thinking that when there is a very bad news that had a bad impact on the stocks and the crypto does it really mean that people sell so much of the coins that the prices of Bitcoin and altcoins fall like water ? I am talking about the recent dump which liquidated almost everyone who was in future trade.

According to my analysis not all people sell coins it is basically the stop losses which get hits and the market moves further down and then quickly gains momentum back making a large wick.

I guess it was market being manipulated. Actually swept a lot of liquidity from the market , the dumb was that massive , leading to some loss of lives due to folk losing their money through liquidation. Many that got liquidated in the process didn’t not make use of stop loss I will say most of them cause some folk prefer to hold for longterm with leverage just to get a better return. And bitcoin is still fully bullish now we will see more of up after it beat the recent supports

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Those who think that investing will bring them success in a short time, but this is very wrong, they need to change their thinking, you have to be stable in the long term, those who become impatient in the market, or those who are afraid due to instability, can never survive here, and because of this they can never achieve long-term success in Bitcoin
If you are planning to invest in bitcoin, then your target should just be a long term investment target, if you are planning to invest in bitcoin for short term, then you might not really be able to make profit, because when you will want to sell, bitcoin price might be down by then, and if you really want to make use of the money which you invested with, then you won’t have choice than to sell at loss.

If you are planning to invest, make sure you use any amount which you know you won’t really be using within a short period of time, because when you will want to use the money, bitcoin price might have dump, or might be the range which you bought, and if you are lucky, you will be in profit even if it might not be so much. But if you want to make good profits in bitcoin investment, just try and hold for long term.

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Either short time or long time it's all a matter of what they want to choose but most people love long time because they have to wait for the price to go up before they will be able to make money from the market they need to be have patience because if the price is down it


The fact is that holding Bitcoin for a short time is not a way of investing in Bitcoin, but rather a way of trading Bitcoin. As we all know, trading is a very hard way to make money and an easy way to lose it. So, if you want to make some profit from Bitcoin, it's better to hold it for the long term at least 4 to 10 years. This way, you can experience the Bitcoin cycle once or twice. After each cycle, there is always a halving event, and after that, we typically experience a bull run. During this time, the price of Bitcoin often reaches a new all-time high, which means your Bitcoin will likely be in profit. Therefore, it's always a good idea to avoid short-term holding of Bitcoin, as it will rarely bring significant profits.

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People who are only investing in bitcoin for the long term are the once meant to be called investors, right now that their is a so much anticipated dip in the price of bitcoin most people would definitely take the opportunity of buying more bitcoin because they are excited about the dip and it’s an opportunity for them, but their are also people who are investing in bitcoin that wouldn’t have an opportunity of buying the dip, because they already bought bitcoin before the unprecedented dip, bitcoin is always volatile and it’s very hard to predict the price of bitcoin, which is why many people wouldn’t have the opportunity of buying through the dip.

However people who have different cashflow and people who also have other financial flexibility would definitely know how to keep money aside for taking the opportunity of buying a dip, but right now people who do not have a so much grate income to discretionary, would rather prefer buying little by little through the DCA.
The easiest strategy to invest in Bitcoin is to buy Bitcoin with the money that have after spending on essentials. Experienced investors should make good use of all the strategies for Bitcoin accumulation because the strategies have been developed depending on the market situation. All strategies can be used when needed, and only the strategy that is needed can be used. I think it is best if someone uses both strategies. For example: doing DCA regularly and keeping some cash in reserve, so that if there is a big dip like this time that can buy more. If anyone have extra money in hand, their should not neglect any opportunity. Because it also involves long-term stacking, and anyone can also profit from market volatility.

I don't understand what you mean by the bold words and the last time I checked that is not a strategy, there are only three (3) strategies to invest in Bitcoin which are the Dollar cost averaging (DCA method), Buy dip and Hodl and lastly the lump sum method or stretagy. DCA method was not develop because of any market situation because the DCA method can be use at any given price or value of the market and as such it is the best strategy so far when it comes to Bitcoin investment because it has help a lot of people without strong or good financial strength to still scale through.

I think what he’s trying to say In the very sentence you bolded was that people should always invest with their discretionary income, I.e the amount left with you after you might have sorted out your other major primary financial obligations including payment of your utilities and other bills etc. and of course, such strategy when applied to our bitcoin investment helps to mitigate the risk involved with the volatility of bitcoin. Almost certainly goes in line with the DCA method of accumulation and investment in bitcoin

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I was just thinking that when there is a very bad news that had a bad impact on the stocks and the crypto does it really mean that people sell so much of the coins that the prices of Bitcoin and altcoins fall like water ? I am talking about the recent dump which liquidated almost everyone who was in future trade.

According to my analysis not all people sell coins it is basically the stop losses which get hits and the market moves further down and then quickly gains momentum back making a large wick.
I guess it was market being manipulated. Actually swept a lot of liquidity from the market , the dumb was that massive , leading to some loss of lives due to folk losing their money through liquidation. Many that got liquidated in the process didn’t not make use of stop loss I will say most of them cause some folk prefer to hold for longterm with leverage just to get a better return. And bitcoin is still fully bullish now we will see more of up after it beat the recent supports
I have carefully looked at the risk involved in trading and came up with the conclusion that it is not necessary to take such high risk when I can achieve the same result by just holding our Bitcoins in our private wallets. To me I chose the part that will give me peace of mind, and will not make me worry about what Donald Trump want to do with China or Russia. Funny enough, those traders that have not committed suicide, who were made poor by Trump's tweet will see the market recover and hit the target they aimed for but then they are liquidated and rendered poor. I will still insist that buying for the long term is the way to go because the advantages just outweigh anything we might fear about long term investment.

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October 12, 2025, 09:23:30 PM
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Yes, we've seen a significant decline, but it's important to remember that patience is essential in these situations. There's a concept in human psychology for these situations: Prospect Theory.

I don't know if you've heard of this theory, but people tend to focus more on the amount they lose than the amount they gain. Therefore, during times of such major crashes, it's best to be patient and perhaps stay away for a while. If you act on this sentiment, you'll be swept up in a wave of panic selling and lose your long-term investments prematurely. I'm a long-term Bitcoin believer. There will certainly be times like these, but the key is patience and looking ahead. I believe regular investment is always a guaranteed gain.

Of course, patience is a virtue to attaining any height.  But I keep asking, if investors already know the floating and/or fluctaution nature of Bitcoin, been fully aware that dips might come at anytime, shouldn't they be prepared for such Dip?, like adopting accumulation Strategies that's allows them be able to Hodl there Bitcoin assets during these Dip period, knowing that at a long run, if we Hodl it, Bitcoin has the potential of giving back much more value and worth in years? Why accumulating Bitcoin under pressure or using your main income to accumulate Bitcoin without settling your basic needs, and when Dip comes, you fear of loosing everything and then, you hurriedly sell, sometimes even in lose just so you can have a little thing to your self?

To me, frankly speaking, it sounds so unwise to me, that a Bitcoin investor knows that Bitcoin fluctuates, and can drop down to a very low state at anytime, and then still goes ahead to invest in Bitcoin with income that is very much needed to do other stuffs, funds like emergency funds, or even your main income just to boost your holdings. Isn't this putting your self into panic and  pressure, and also putting your personal needs to stop or suffering on the other hand because you wouldn't be able to meet up with basic needs when the need arises.

This is why it is largely adviced that investors should ensure to use there discretionary income for accumulation, after settlement of basic needs. This gives you free hands and makes you in charge of your investment journey, that even in face of Dips, just like this recent decilne in price, you wouldn't be panicking or running to sell off rather too quickly. We must learn to invest in the right way, so that we can achieve our long term budget of accumulating of Bitcoin and Hodl.

Well, it is very unwise not to inform investors to understand how to use his or her discretionary income in the process of accumulation
most investors knows how to
manage and take fully in charge after multiple expenses.
Bitcoin being an asset so investors should get parepared that dip might comes up soon because long term hold is key to achievement.

Our discretionary income is our decision on how to use it, even though you’re telling people how to use their discretionary income, you can only give them a suggestion it doesn’t really mean that they will be using it to buy bitcoin, unless an individual have decided they are ready to start investing in bitcoin.

People have discretionary income, they can decide to buy some alcohol from it, and also buy cigarettes, and buy some expensive cloths, and pay for tickets to watch the NBA, or watch soccer games, or going to a club, but the question would be whether that is really reasonable enough, because they can actually decide to invest in bitcoin something that would be more beneficial to them, instead of using money for something that isn’t beneficial, and bitcoin doesn’t stop anyone from enjoying their life or having fun.
It does not really mean that you should use all your Discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin, it is not even advisable as a human to use all your discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin whenever you are being paid salary, what you should do is use part of your discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin and then hold the rest because as a human you will usually want to purchase one thing or the other, like for me I use part of my discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin and then hold some part of discretionary income I usually use it for some things I love going to a bar or going to cinema to see a movie with my girlfriend and some fun things I do also.
I see some set of people that say they use all their discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin, well everyone is different there are some people they usually don't go out and because of that they don't spend a lot so if they have food in the house and other basic items they are okay for the month or for the week until they receive their next salary those kind of people can use all their discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin and it won't affect them, if you are not that kind of person please do not use all your discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin because you will end up dipping hands into your bitcoin at an early stage which is very bad for your investment, you can decide to use all your dictionary income if you have a backup funds that will always help you out.


You actually made a solid point about patience and the psychology behind losses. Most people focus more on the dip or what they lost on paper instead of the long-term growth they’re building. That’s why emotional control is as important as financial control in Bitcoin investing.

I also agree with the point about discretionary income, it’s not just about using all you have to buy Bitcoin, it’s about being strategic. Bitcoin isn’t meant to compete with your rent or daily expenses. It’s meant to complement your long-term plan. So the best approach is balance: take care of your basic needs first, then invest what you can consistently without pressure.

The truth is, the people who survive long enough in this market are those who don’t treat Bitcoin like a race but like a marathon. Whether the price moves up or down, your mindset and discipline will always be the real investment.

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October 12, 2025, 09:31:40 PM
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I have carefully looked at the risk involved in trading and came up with the conclusion that it is not necessary to take such high risk when I can achieve the same result by just holding our Bitcoins in our private wallets. To me I chose the part that will give me peace of mind, and will not make me worry about what Donald Trump want to do with China or Russia. Funny enough, those traders that have not committed suicide, who were made poor by Trump's tweet will see the market recover and hit the target they aimed for but then they are liquidated and rendered poor. I will still insist that buying for the long term is the way to go because the advantages just outweigh anything we might fear about long term investment.

This is why being a trader isn't always fun, and trading isn't always profitable, especially when trading futures, which generally involve significant risk. When the market crashes like yesterday, almost all traders experience liquidation, causing mental stress that's difficult to overcome. I also support investors who are still long-term investors in Bitcoin and are still undeterred by continuing to buy as much as yesterday, even though the price of Bitcoin has briefly crashed due to the trade war between two major economies. But today, market conditions are starting to look like they are recovering and Bitcoin has started to experience a steady price increase from the $110K range to the $115K range in the past two days.

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