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May 21, 2024, 08:05:03 AM
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I have seen some training footage from Mike Tyson, and to be fair unless he has some serious medical conditions that makes this a hard fight, his punches looked like he was still 25 years old, and that shocked me.

Normally I expected him to not have any punches at all, I did not expected him to have any punches at all, I assumed that he would have been long gone and not have anything at all, but by the looks of it he didn't had that trouble and he is still punches like he is a young man. I am not saying he will surely win, but I highly doubt that he would lose if it was a street fight. Why not a boxing match? Because they may just do an exhibition moving around stuff and not really fight, they are both doing it just for the money that's it.

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May 21, 2024, 08:28:54 AM
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I have seen some training footage from Mike Tyson, and to be fair unless he has some serious medical conditions that makes this a hard fight, his punches looked like he was still 25 years old, and that shocked me.



Punching a bag on a camera does not mean he will be able to repeat that on the ring while being exhausted. No doubt there are still lots of power in those hands, but evaluating someone's form or fighting skill by a short video from a gym... Leave it to Ryan Garcia Cheesy I am not saying that it is going to be a walk for Jake as Mike is old, nor Mike is going to cripple Jake by the look on Mike's past. But that "punching like a young man" imho is wrong. Lets just say that Mike looks great for his age, or I would even that most of us could envy him.

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May 21, 2024, 02:32:38 PM
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I have seen some training footage from Mike Tyson, and to be fair unless he has some serious medical conditions that makes this a hard fight, his punches looked like he was still 25 years old, and that shocked me.



Punching a bag on a camera does not mean he will be able to repeat that on the ring while being exhausted. No doubt there are still lots of power in those hands, but evaluating someone's form or fighting skill by a short video from a gym... Leave it to Ryan Garcia Cheesy I am not saying that it is going to be a walk for Jake as Mike is old, nor Mike is going to cripple Jake by the look on Mike's past. But that "punching like a young man" imho is wrong. Lets just say that Mike looks great for his age, or I would even that most of us could envy him.


I also think it's incredible the way Mike is at his current age, it's something that few of us will have, muscles, strength, disposition... This shows how disciplined he is and pursues his goals.

For example, I'm going to the gym regularly, but it's something I want to see the benefits of in 20... 30 years... it's like an investment, muscles are like gold/bitcoin for the human body, extremely valuable.

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May 21, 2024, 08:56:28 PM
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I have seen some training footage from Mike Tyson, and to be fair unless he has some serious medical conditions that makes this a hard fight, his punches looked like he was still 25 years old, and that shocked me.

Punching a bag on a camera does not mean he will be able to repeat that on the ring while being exhausted. No doubt there are still lots of power in those hands, but evaluating someone's form or fighting skill by a short video from a gym... Leave it to Ryan Garcia Cheesy I am not saying that it is going to be a walk for Jake as Mike is old, nor Mike is going to cripple Jake by the look on Mike's past. But that "punching like a young man" imho is wrong. Lets just say that Mike looks great for his age, or I would even that most of us could envy him.


I also think it's incredible the way Mike is at his current age, it's something that few of us will have, muscles, strength, disposition... This shows how disciplined he is and pursues his goals.

I think it has something to do with his genetics as well, if you will see pictures of him at 16 in amateurs, he have one of the best physique at that age and there are muscles already. And then this training regimen, including his neck training is very different that's why he was able to developed it like no other one in boxing.

For example, I'm going to the gym regularly, but it's something I want to see the benefits of in 20... 30 years... it's like an investment, muscles are like gold/bitcoin for the human body, extremely valuable.

Although as some point, he fell into drug addiction, go to jail and lost his money, he was able to maintain that body even well above 50 years old. It could have been a lot of war and tear, but going back to the gym, and with muscle memory, he might still have that power in him to knockout Jake Paul if he wanted to.

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May 22, 2024, 11:10:43 AM
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Punching a bag on a camera does not mean he will be able to repeat that on the ring while being exhausted. No doubt there are still lots of power in those hands, but evaluating someone's form or fighting skill by a short video from a gym... Leave it to Ryan Garcia Cheesy I am not saying that it is going to be a walk for Jake as Mike is old, nor Mike is going to cripple Jake by the look on Mike's past. But that "punching like a young man" imho is wrong. Lets just say that Mike looks great for his age, or I would even that most of us could envy him.
I mean of course you are right, I just meant that I honestly did not expected to see that at all, even at training. Plus, this is Mike Tyson we are talking about dude is one of the greatest of all time to do this, so not like we are talking about some has been, so I feel like those punches having some heavy throws behind it, could actually be true during the fight itself as well.

I think you are right that stamine will be his biggest issue, dude hasn't been training this much for decades probably, there was a point where he used cane to walk, so it's true that he may not be able to fight that long. Long story short, I just believe that we either will see Mike land one of those punches, and Jake would be hospitalized Cheesy or we are going to see a draw, but there is absolutely zero chance Jake could ever knock out Mike.

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May 22, 2024, 11:33:01 AM
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Punching a bag on a camera does not mean he will be able to repeat that on the ring while being exhausted. No doubt there are still lots of power in those hands, but evaluating someone's form or fighting skill by a short video from a gym... Leave it to Ryan Garcia Cheesy I am not saying that it is going to be a walk for Jake as Mike is old, nor Mike is going to cripple Jake by the look on Mike's past. But that "punching like a young man" imho is wrong. Lets just say that Mike looks great for his age, or I would even that most of us could envy him.
I mean of course you are right, I just meant that I honestly did not expected to see that at all, even at training. Plus, this is Mike Tyson we are talking about dude is one of the greatest of all time to do this, so not like we are talking about some has been, so I feel like those punches having some heavy throws behind it, could actually be true during the fight itself as well.

I think you are right that stamine will be his biggest issue, dude hasn't been training this much for decades probably, there was a point where he used cane to walk, so it's true that he may not be able to fight that long. Long story short, I just believe that we either will see Mike land one of those punches, and Jake would be hospitalized Cheesy or we are going to see a draw, but there is absolutely zero chance Jake could ever knock out Mike.

You forgot to add "in his prime" Cheesy Come on, its heavyweight division. One good punch and persons falls asleep. When will people stop evaluating Mike by his past. Being a professional athlete is tough. People have serious health problems when they get really old. And Mike is no exception. It is on the camera he is so quick fast and heavy puncher. But when the fight start, his past injuries will come up. As to Jake, many here see him as a random guy who has put gloves on. While this kid trains regularly. How long has he been boxing already? Several years? During that time, any coach will teach anyone a solid punch that knocks people out and aspects of defence. I really doubt that Jake is such a masochist that loves pain so much that he has signed for this fight just to feel pain from Mikes punches. If he hasnt got a chance to win, he would never agree for that fight.

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May 22, 2024, 01:56:44 PM
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Was it announcing another fight on the Tyson and Paul card? It would be by Brazilian comedian Whinderson Nunes. How important and aggregating is this? Because until then it was just a main fight, right? Are there other struggles?

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May 23, 2024, 03:35:33 AM
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I saw quite lot of video footage from Mike Tyson and Paul previous fights which were deliberately edited and showed that Paul had punch that made Mike Tyson fall to the ground and suffer knockout defeat.
This is ridiculous because for whatever reason, many people actually edit videos like that and spread them on several social media, whether it just to create hype or show everyone that Paul will be far superior.
It just that I still believe that Mike Tyson will fight very well, he is training harder and starting to improve his strength so he can last longer in the ring in the fight which will take place in July.
Maybe Mike Tyson is quite old and many people claim that Mike Tyson performance is very bad, but seeing the preparations made, some people, including me, are sure that Mike Tyson will not be easily beaten by Paul.
Some of Mike Tyson hard punches could have hit Paul face and could have caused Paul to fall to the canvas.

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I have seen some training footage from Mike Tyson, and to be fair unless he has some serious medical conditions that makes this a hard fight, his punches looked like he was still 25 years old, and that shocked me.



Punching a bag on a camera does not mean he will be able to repeat that on the ring while being exhausted. No doubt there are still lots of power in those hands, but evaluating someone's form or fighting skill by a short video from a gym... Leave it to Ryan Garcia Cheesy I am not saying that it is going to be a walk for Jake as Mike is old, nor Mike is going to cripple Jake by the look on Mike's past. But that "punching like a young man" imho is wrong. Lets just say that Mike looks great for his age, or I would even that most of us could envy him.

Yeah. Mike probably can't go at that pace for more than 30 seconds or ever how long the video is. My main intrigue with this fight is how are they gonna start off. Are they actually gonna try knock each other out if even they can? Mike can still smash and I still think Mike could probably KO most people and I think the only chance Mike has is to get Jake out early. If he can't Jake will use his youth and stamina to pick him apart and wear him down, but maybe they might have a gentlemen's agreement to take it easy. Only time will tell.

There's some more fights announced for the undercard:




Looks like a decent mix of pros, influences and cross-over fights and the co-main of Serrano Taylor two will be worth the price alone..

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May 24, 2024, 08:10:38 PM
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I have seen some training footage from Mike Tyson, and to be fair unless he has some serious medical conditions that makes this a hard fight, his punches looked like he was still 25 years old, and that shocked me.



Punching a bag on a camera does not mean he will be able to repeat that on the ring while being exhausted. No doubt there are still lots of power in those hands, but evaluating someone's form or fighting skill by a short video from a gym... Leave it to Ryan Garcia Cheesy I am not saying that it is going to be a walk for Jake as Mike is old, nor Mike is going to cripple Jake by the look on Mike's past. But that "punching like a young man" imho is wrong. Lets just say that Mike looks great for his age, or I would even that most of us could envy him.

Yeah. Mike probably can't go at that pace for more than 30 seconds or ever how long the video is. My main intrigue with this fight is how are they gonna start off. Are they actually gonna try knock each other out if even they can? Mike can still smash and I still think Mike could probably KO most people and I think the only chance Mike has is to get Jake out early. If he can't Jake will use his youth and stamina to pick him apart and wear him down, but maybe they might have a gentlemen's agreement to take it easy. Only time will tell.

There's some more fights announced for the undercard:




Looks like a decent mix of pros, influences and cross-over fights and the co-main of Serrano Taylor two will be worth the price alone..


I know this one in the highlight: it's Windersson Nunes, a Brazilian YouTuber and comedian...

 He recently had a fight against Acelino "Popó" Freitas, former world boxing champion... He actually did very well in the fight ("Survived" 8 rounds)... Popó Freitas was so grateful to Winderson for this fight that he even got a tattoo in his honor... after all, with this fight, Popó, who had been forgotten by the public, had the chance to return to the media and rebuild his financial life.

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May 25, 2024, 02:41:47 AM
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I have seen some training footage from Mike Tyson, and to be fair unless he has some serious medical conditions that makes this a hard fight, his punches looked like he was still 25 years old, and that shocked me.



Punching a bag on a camera does not mean he will be able to repeat that on the ring while being exhausted. No doubt there are still lots of power in those hands, but evaluating someone's form or fighting skill by a short video from a gym... Leave it to Ryan Garcia Cheesy I am not saying that it is going to be a walk for Jake as Mike is old, nor Mike is going to cripple Jake by the look on Mike's past. But that "punching like a young man" imho is wrong. Lets just say that Mike looks great for his age, or I would even that most of us could envy him.

Yeah. Mike probably can't go at that pace for more than 30 seconds or ever how long the video is. My main intrigue with this fight is how are they gonna start off. Are they actually gonna try knock each other out if even they can? Mike can still smash and I still think Mike could probably KO most people and I think the only chance Mike has is to get Jake out early. If he can't Jake will use his youth and stamina to pick him apart and wear him down, but maybe they might have a gentlemen's agreement to take it easy. Only time will tell.

There's some more fights announced for the undercard:




Looks like a decent mix of pros, influences and cross-over fights and the co-main of Serrano Taylor two will be worth the price alone..


I know this one in the highlight: it's Windersson Nunes, a Brazilian YouTuber and comedian...

 He recently had a fight against Acelino "Popó" Freitas, former world boxing champion... He actually did very well in the fight ("Survived" 8 rounds)... Popó Freitas was so grateful to Winderson for this fight that he even got a tattoo in his honor... after all, with this fight, Popó, who had been forgotten by the public, had the chance to return to the media and rebuild his financial life.

tatoo:




It would be a great fight if Popo fought on this card too, perhaps with a retired professional at his same level. It would certainly attract a much larger audience, especially Brazilians.

But, despite the main fight already being choreographed by everyone, the rest seem to be very good.

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May 25, 2024, 07:44:39 PM
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It would be a great fight if Popo fought on this card too, perhaps with a retired professional at his same level. It would certainly attract a much larger audience, especially Brazilians.

But, despite the main fight already being choreographed by everyone, the rest seem to be very good.



Well, it would be really cool to see Popó in the ring again, I think he didn't go to this event because his fight against Big Brother Kleber BamBam was very short ago.... is some kind of break necessary? At least in professional boxing it's like that... I don't know if it applies to these "friendly" fights

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May 26, 2024, 08:33:32 AM
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I mean of course you are right, I just meant that I honestly did not expected to see that at all, even at training. Plus, this is Mike Tyson we are talking about dude is one of the greatest of all time to do this, so not like we are talking about some has been, so I feel like those punches having some heavy throws behind it, could actually be true during the fight itself as well.

I think you are right that stamine will be his biggest issue, dude hasn't been training this much for decades probably, there was a point where he used cane to walk, so it's true that he may not be able to fight that long. Long story short, I just believe that we either will see Mike land one of those punches, and Jake would be hospitalized Cheesy or we are going to see a draw, but there is absolutely zero chance Jake could ever knock out Mike.
Mike most likely tried to work to the maximum more than once in training and understands how many rounds he can withstand and at what pace, so if there are problems with endurance, then I think he will try not to drag out the fight for too long. About Jake’s endurance, too, not everything is so good, he is not a professional, I’m sure that he care for himself in training, he is an amateur and loves himself too much to work to the limit in training. I agree that it is very difficult to start all over again, and if you finished your career and did not train properly, then this is exactly the case when you start all over again.

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May 26, 2024, 08:55:17 AM
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I mean of course you are right, I just meant that I honestly did not expected to see that at all, even at training. Plus, this is Mike Tyson we are talking about dude is one of the greatest of all time to do this, so not like we are talking about some has been, so I feel like those punches having some heavy throws behind it, could actually be true during the fight itself as well.

I think you are right that stamine will be his biggest issue, dude hasn't been training this much for decades probably, there was a point where he used cane to walk, so it's true that he may not be able to fight that long. Long story short, I just believe that we either will see Mike land one of those punches, and Jake would be hospitalized Cheesy or we are going to see a draw, but there is absolutely zero chance Jake could ever knock out Mike.
Mike most likely tried to work to the maximum more than once in training and understands how many rounds he can withstand and at what pace, so if there are problems with endurance, then I think he will try not to drag out the fight for too long. About Jake’s endurance, too, not everything is so good, he is not a professional, I’m sure that he care for himself in training, he is an amateur and loves himself too much to work to the limit in training. I agree that it is very difficult to start all over again, and if you finished your career and did not train properly, then this is exactly the case when you start all over again.

But age is still a big difference here in terms of stamina, not saying that Mike is not going to train in this arena, but as we tend to get older our body's lung capacity deteriorate as well and with Mike's wear and tear, his gas tank is questionable.

In terms of power though, he has natural gift, God given talent, so I think that favors him and if order for him to win this fight, he should go and look for a early knockout. Because as the fight goes on and drag for the full fight, Mike might get tired and Jake Paul winning on the latter rounds and the judges giving him this win.
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May 27, 2024, 04:25:52 AM
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It would be a great fight if Popo fought on this card too, perhaps with a retired professional at his same level. It would certainly attract a much larger audience, especially Brazilians.

But, despite the main fight already being choreographed by everyone, the rest seem to be very good.



Well, it would be really cool to see Popó in the ring again, I think he didn't go to this event because his fight against Big Brother Kleber BamBam was very short ago.... is some kind of break necessary? At least in professional boxing it's like that... I don't know if it applies to these "friendly" fights

It makes sense, and before that there was another preparation for another fight with a manager if I'm not mistaken. So, really, he comes from several fights. Entering a card like this, so renowned and with many views, would require a lot of commitment.

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May 27, 2024, 07:21:45 AM
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Mike most likely tried to work to the maximum more than once in training and understands how many rounds he can withstand and at what pace, so if there are problems with endurance, then I think he will try not to drag out the fight for too long. About Jake’s endurance, too, not everything is so good, he is not a professional, I’m sure that he care for himself in training, he is an amateur and loves himself too much to work to the limit in training. I agree that it is very difficult to start all over again, and if you finished your career and did not train properly, then this is exactly the case when you start all over again.

But age is still a big difference here in terms of stamina, not saying that Mike is not going to train in this arena, but as we tend to get older our body's lung capacity deteriorate as well and with Mike's wear and tear, his gas tank is questionable.

In terms of power though, he has natural gift, God given talent, so I think that favors him and if order for him to win this fight, he should go and look for a early knockout. Because as the fight goes on and drag for the full fight, Mike might get tired and Jake Paul winning on the latter rounds and the judges giving him this win.
In terms of age, stamina definitely decreases, but look at how he trains and starts to strengthen his stamina so that he doesn't feel tired easily, everything will come back better if he gets used to it with the right training.
I believe that Mike Tyson will have problems with his stamina, but on the other hand, I also sure that he can overcome it well because the way he trains indirectly increases his stamina so that he is better maintained.

Everything will go back to the beginning, if Mike Tyson can fight according to everyone expectations by delivering several hard right hooks like when he was young then it is possible that Paul will not survive.
Mike Tyson chance of winning by knockout can definitely be achieved and of course if that doesn't happen and he actually reaches the latter round then there is possibility that Paul can take advantage of the situation to achieve victory.
We see how their fight goes but I make Mike Tyson the favorite to get knockout win.

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May 27, 2024, 12:16:12 PM
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Am a Tyson fan and probably going to back him for the win but every time I look at their standoffs something keeps ringing in my mind that Tyson might not have the endurance to go all the way against a youthful Jake Paul, and not forgetting Jake has the height to give him a slight advantage if he knows how to put it to good use because Iron might has always dropped bigger guys than him, taller guys than him and the list goes on so this disadvantage isn't new..

But fighting at age of 57, comeon I think let's have a sober selection here and am thinking bookies are right to make Jake the favourite as Tyson might not have it to go all the way, for now the hype is to help make the sales...


In terms of power though, he has natural gift, God given talent, so I think that favors him and if order for him to win this fight, he should go and look for a early knockout. Because as the fight goes on and drag for the full fight, Mike might get tired and Jake Paul winning on the latter rounds and the judges giving him this win.
Like how you put it as been a God given talent ,which it is and we can't take that from him Cool

Btw, I think Mike Tyson has always finished his fights early, anything that drags on means his winning chances get slimmer and this fight won't be any different and am hoping Jake does not get to win against a Legend as this could dent his name and all...


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May 27, 2024, 12:34:04 PM
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I have seen some training footage from Mike Tyson, and to be fair unless he has some serious medical conditions that makes this a hard fight, his punches looked like he was still 25 years old, and that shocked me.

Normally I expected him to not have any punches at all, I did not expected him to have any punches at all, I assumed that he would have been long gone and not have anything at all, but by the looks of it he didn't had that trouble and he is still punches like he is a young man. I am not saying he will surely win, but I highly doubt that he would lose if it was a street fight. Why not a boxing match? Because they may just do an exhibition moving around stuff and not really fight, they are both doing it just for the money that's it.
Mike Tyson is the beast, a ruthless fighter. He was bullied at school (Conor McGregor was bullied too) and that's what motivated him to became a ruthless fighter. His backstory is bad but what we got is a man that is still one of the best fighter at the age of 57. Just like you, I didn't expect to see him punching like this but I was watching Joe Rogan's podcast where he showed some of Mike Tyson's recent videos and mate, he is really out of this world, a 57 years old man fights like hell.

But age is still a big difference here in terms of stamina, not saying that Mike is not going to train in this arena, but as we tend to get older our body's lung capacity deteriorate as well and with Mike's wear and tear, his gas tank is questionable.
You are right, there is a huge age gap between them. I find it a little bit insulting that this fight is gonna happen but I also think that Mike agreed to it because he wants money and doesn't care much. By the way, their conference was very weird. Jake Paul said he wanted to kiss Mike's juicy lips and then what Mike said was really a catastrophe.
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May 27, 2024, 04:19:03 PM
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I have seen some training footage from Mike Tyson, and to be fair unless he has some serious medical conditions that makes this a hard fight, his punches looked like he was still 25 years old, and that shocked me.

Normally I expected him to not have any punches at all, I did not expected him to have any punches at all, I assumed that he would have been long gone and not have anything at all, but by the looks of it he didn't had that trouble and he is still punches like he is a young man. I am not saying he will surely win, but I highly doubt that he would lose if it was a street fight. Why not a boxing match? Because they may just do an exhibition moving around stuff and not really fight, they are both doing it just for the money that's it.
Mike Tyson is the beast, a ruthless fighter. He was bullied at school (Conor McGregor was bullied too) and that's what motivated him to became a ruthless fighter. His backstory is bad but what we got is a man that is still one of the best fighter at the age of 57. Just like you, I didn't expect to see him punching like this but I was watching Joe Rogan's podcast where he showed some of Mike Tyson's recent videos and mate, he is really out of this world, a 57 years old man fights like hell.

But age is still a big difference here in terms of stamina, not saying that Mike is not going to train in this arena, but as we tend to get older our body's lung capacity deteriorate as well and with Mike's wear and tear, his gas tank is questionable.
You are right, there is a huge age gap between them. I find it a little bit insulting that this fight is gonna happen but I also think that Mike agreed to it because he wants money and doesn't care much. By the way, their conference was very weird. Jake Paul said he wanted to kiss Mike's juicy lips and then what Mike said was really a catastrophe.

I don't know his story but he doesn't look like the guy to be bullied. But it must be the motivation to become a good fighter just in case he gets bullied again. The result of getting bullied at school always makes the kid stronger in any field. What he is known after he got jailed and got out clean was that he is a reformed man and has learned a lot. That's why Mike is often quoted with his sensible wisdom.

In the press conference they have, Mike sounds very calm and can actually make people laugh. But in the ring, he is still able to fight. But I'm doubting his age really. No matter how much they portray him to be ruthless still. At 57, its not gonna be great. 

Just last night, he suffered medical emergency after boarding a plane. Check the news.

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May 27, 2024, 05:11:12 PM
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People can doubt Mike Tyson as much as they want, Jake is not even a boxer, literally a youtuber, and I feel like it is not going to be even close. What you guys do not understand is that Jake is young and he has more stamina so he could run around, and every trainer in the world would tell Jake to just punch and run constantly, BUT, if there is even ONE punch from Mike Tyson that hits Jake right on the chin?

The match is over, it is not even close. Mike Tyson is no joke, even at 57 years old he is not a joke. In fact, I think he is going to be able to "tire" Jake a lot as well, he doesn't need to run around that much, he just needs to turn and take a few steps right at the middle of the ring, whereas Jake has to move around the whole ring running away constantly, so by the later rounds, I feel like Jake could be tired.

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