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March 12, 2024, 07:38:53 AM
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Looking at the odds, I would say that at 1.70, the sportsbooks are still underestimating Donald Trump. IMO, his odds should be somewhere around 1.30. He has almost won the Republican primaries, and if he stands for the POTUS elections later this year there is a 90% chance that he will win (Biden is trailing far behind in almost all of the polls). Now the only possibility that Trump may not win the election comes from any potential court decision that may disqualify him from running. Any such judgment is extremely unlikely.
Don't worry, it still long time because the election will be held in the next few months and it seems like there will always be changes happening for some time until the time is really close to the election.
Trump has really dominant advantage in this election and of course this advantage is also because Biden performance was not very good during his tenure as president and many US people have bad sentiments towards him.
This is why Trump succeeded in winning the Republican primaries and was able to take advantage of the conditions to take over those people who in the previous election were Biden supporters, we will see Trump become president again and of course this is good opportunity.
I think we will also find that the odd given to Trump also reaches @1.30 but this will be very low odd to bet on, everyone should really start taking risks from now on if they have the courage.

But talking about the lawsuit that was previously received by Trump and which could result in decision to disqualify him as presidential candidate will never happen, just imagine how long ago this issue was sued and in fact until now there has been no such decision.
This will be related to division if it is actually carried out and certain parties will always consider this.

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March 12, 2024, 11:03:20 AM
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For me the the sportsbooks are correct in giving the current president higher odds because he is the favorite.
Let us say Liverpool is playing with big club but which it has more chance to win. Liverpool that has the higher chance to win will be given a bigger odd. That is how gambling is and we all know that. If you are saying the sportsbooks are correct in giving the current president higher odds because he is the favorite, that is not right. The higher odd is given because Trump has more chance to win the election in their own opinion but which may not become true. As Trump failed in some areas to some people, also Biden failed in some areas to some people.

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March 12, 2024, 12:48:07 PM
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I think you are also underestimating Joe Biden. Donald Trump has a lot of skeletons in his cupboard and he has failed to address them. He promised to free the Capitol attackers if he is reelection which means he is still promoting anarchy. Trump has failed to attract new supporters from some Democratic States which means the election might turn out the way it ended four years ago. For me the the sportsbooks are correct in giving the current president higher odds because he is the favorite. He has had some issues including his health and failure to tackle illegal immigrants but he is still better than emperor Trump. Biden will still get support from the minorities because they are getting better treatment from him than the racist Trump. My bet is wholely on Biden.

I am not underestimating Joe Biden. But he is on the defensive, with burning issues such as border conundrum and Hunter Biden scandal having an impact on his support levels. In most of the opinion polls, Biden is trailing by somewhere between 3% to 5% as far as popular vote is concerned. And let's not forget the fact that Trump won the 2016 elections despite losing the battle for popular vote. In case he has a 5% advantage here, then we can expect a landslide. Even states such as Colorado and Virginia may swing to GOP this time.

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March 12, 2024, 04:40:43 PM
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I honestly do understand Trump and Biden trying to beat each other, but there are places that shows Michelle Obama, who has never shown any interest in politics, never has been a candidate, never been nominated, never even tried to get any nomination for any position ever, to have better odds to win it over Kamala Harris, literally the VP of the nation, and the president if anything happens to Biden. That part has never made sense to me.

I agree that aside from Biden and Trump, there are no candidates anymore, those are the two that will go ahead and win it, and there is really nothing wrong with that, I agree that those two will be fighting it out and one will win, so rest of the candidates makes no sense, but really? Michelle over Kamala? That is silly.

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March 12, 2024, 06:31:45 PM
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I honestly do understand Trump and Biden trying to beat each other, but there are places that shows Michelle Obama, who has never shown any interest in politics, never has been a candidate, never been nominated, never even tried to get any nomination for any position ever, to have better odds to win it over Kamala Harris, literally the VP of the nation, and the president if anything happens to Biden. That part has never made sense to me.

I agree that aside from Biden and Trump, there are no candidates anymore, those are the two that will go ahead and win it, and there is really nothing wrong with that, I agree that those two will be fighting it out and one will win, so rest of the candidates makes no sense, but really? Michelle over Kamala? That is silly.

Can't remember which documentary I saw it but the administration would rather have someone else in case Biden suddenly just drops dead. This I guess is the reason why even when it gets worse to such an extent that Biden won't be able to speak anymore due to his dementia, Kamala will still not get her seat. I bet they'd quickly vote for a snap election.

What was said in that documentary was that she wasn't of American descent.
Michelle Obama is not to be questioned she is a real deal after all her husband had contributed greatly to the country.

I think you are also underestimating Joe Biden. Donald Trump has a lot of skeletons in his cupboard and he has failed to address them. He promised to free the Capitol attackers if he is reelection which means he is still promoting anarchy. Trump has failed to attract new supporters from some Democratic States which means the election might turn out the way it ended four years ago. For me the the sportsbooks are correct in giving the current president higher odds because he is the favorite. He has had some issues including his health and failure to tackle illegal immigrants but he is still better than emperor Trump. Biden will still get support from the minorities because they are getting better treatment from him than the racist Trump. My bet is wholely on Biden.

I am not underestimating Joe Biden. But he is on the defensive, with burning issues such as border conundrum and Hunter Biden scandal having an impact on his support levels. In most of the opinion polls, Biden is trailing by somewhere between 3% to 5% as far as popular vote is concerned. And let's not forget the fact that Trump won the 2016 elections despite losing the battle for popular vote. In case he has a 5% advantage here, then we can expect a landslide. Even states such as Colorado and Virginia may swing to GOP this time.

The 2 states are not his fans but now that Trump will be on the ballot, yes.
That laptop I think had made people rethink who they have previously supported.

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March 12, 2024, 08:23:45 PM
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I honestly do understand Trump and Biden trying to beat each other, but there are places that shows Michelle Obama, who has never shown any interest in politics, never has been a candidate, never been nominated, never even tried to get any nomination for any position ever, to have better odds to win it over Kamala Harris, literally the VP of the nation, and the president if anything happens to Biden. That part has never made sense to me.

I agree that aside from Biden and Trump, there are no candidates anymore, those are the two that will go ahead and win it, and there is really nothing wrong with that, I agree that those two will be fighting it out and one will win, so rest of the candidates makes no sense, but really? Michelle over Kamala? That is silly.

It must be because the attention Michelle Obama has received in this presidencial campaign compared to the attention Kamala Harris has. If you pay some attention to the media on the United States, it would not take much time for you to realize Kamala Harris is the kind of politician who is easier to ignore than the average person in Washington. The media give even more attention to Nancy Pelosi, and she is not even the speaker of the house of representatives anymore, you know. The right wing media used to attack her, but she has become to irrelevant that, in the event Biden shows himself to be unable to continue with the campaign, the democrat party would never opt to push Harris into the White House, they would lose.
In that context, Michelle Obama is better recalled as the wife of the President Obama, and has showed to have more charisma when facing the general electorate, that is why she is preferred by bettors over Harris. They know the Democrat party are more likely to favor Obama than her, even though Harris is already into politics and being the second on command after the president.

It would be safe to say Harris is sort like the DeSantis of the Democrat party. You know she exists, but nobody pays much attention to her anyways. A very low profile.

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March 12, 2024, 08:32:36 PM
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All the attempts to take out Trump from ballots and filing all the law suits but he still remains the strongest candidate to oppose Biden's campaign for another term. He may be guilty to some of the charges but the Americans may just want someone to focus on America first before the wars in Europe and Middle East. Not to mention the continues bickering with China and funding Taiwan.

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March 12, 2024, 09:16:20 PM
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I don't know the yardstick for given Donald Trump 1.7 odd and Joe Biden 2.55 odd, considering that the later is the sitting president and with the instrumentality of the states at his disposal in a democratic setting. I don't know the chances of Donald Trump at that election when they will unleash the media and the big techs against him like they did the last time. If Trump could be defeated as a sitting president, I wonder how possible it will be for him to win in the midst of the persecution he is facing. I will rather avoid this bet than take risk that is not too clear to me.

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March 12, 2024, 09:28:39 PM
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Let me make it simple for you:

Trump loses again, and Biden wins  Cheesy

Please, save your wits everyone. Sit back and relax, and nick some easy money off the bookies.

[Everyone else is a joke candidate and I don't understand why Stake doesn't just give them all 100:1 odds.]
I think its going to be the opposite. I think both are complete morons, but at least Trump is interesting. I don't think that people realize that no matter who is made president, they do not hold all the power. Their party gains a little more control and some agendas for the party are pushed, but the person themselves are not making all the laws or whatnot.

I think the USA was in better shape with the republicans in control.

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I honestly do understand Trump and Biden trying to beat each other, but there are places that shows Michelle Obama, who has never shown any interest in politics, never has been a candidate, never been nominated, never even tried to get any nomination for any position ever, to have better odds to win it over Kamala Harris, literally the VP of the nation, and the president if anything happens to Biden. That part has never made sense to me.
The issue with Kamala Harris is that she got very little spotlight during her vice presidency. I don't know if it's why Democrats chose to do so deliberately or if she was just not interested but the media didn't give her any spotlight. It's been all these years since Obama was president, but his wife is still more popular than the current female vice president, which is crazy.

So I kinda understand the rumors. If democrats lost Biden, then they would have to pick someone widely popular to replace him. The Michelle Obama pick kinda makes sense, although very unrealistic. Sometimes rumors make sense, simply because the alternative would be even more absurd. Can you imagine a world with Kamala Harris as president? Me neither, because it just seems like she was picked as a token black woman vice president and served absolutely no utility through her term.

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Number one factor will be the economy, check this graph out for jobs creation:
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While this might be some positive spin for Biden the reality is not something not always believed by workers on the ground.  I dont doubt the data is there as indicated in that specific layout,  if only because Biden came in after a pandemic and there has been some revival from that backdrop no doubt.   I personally feel many western economies are suffering and the effects are quite unfair because inflation benefits a few who can make debts work in their favor while being able to renew that debt at rates below inflation hence its a subsidy to their business usually.

Workers who are struggling to match bills with pay unevenly matched to inflation may not find this graph accurate to their own personal situation.  If that is true and enough people feel the economy is bad then Biden being upset in his reelection remains quite possible, its probably the most powerful simple factor there is to deciding success or not.

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It's also a first for this year's race for how old both candidates are. Interestingly, bookmakers have added several other picks to the table other than Joe Biden and Donald Trump. The chances of either dying prior to the race aren't that unlikely it seems. Also in the case of Donald Trump, several cases are proceeding in the courts, which some are speculating might hinder his bid to the presidency.

I'm unsure about this discussion:
Many sites already offer the possibility of betting on a winner, but what is a winner?
Is it the candidate who received the most votes during the elections or is it the one who will actually be sworn in as President of the United States?

Recently, the judges, with a conservative majority, authorized former President Donald Trump to continue running for the Republican Party and will probably also be able to run for president.

If he can actually run for president, I believe he will beat Biden, but I also believe he will be blocked later for the crimes he faces.
In this case, what is the "correct" result of bets made in casinos and gambling sites?

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March 13, 2024, 01:49:55 AM
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I'm unsure about this discussion:
Many sites already offer the possibility of betting on a winner, but what is a winner?
Is it the candidate who received the most votes during the elections or is it the one who will actually be sworn in as President of the United States?
The United States electoral system doesn't elect a president on an outright majority vote. As of gambling markets, I'd bet that gambling sites will close the market as soon TV channels and major news outlets call the winner of the election.

On some other presidential news, the independent presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr. says he's considering Aaron Rodgers for his running mate. I'm told those familiar with American football (not me) might find this funny...
https://www.businessinsider.com/robert-kennedy-jr-aaron-rodgers-vice-president-2024-2024-3

Mr. Kennedy is such an interesting candidate and it's uncertain from which major candidate he would draw most voters from. He's had interesting things to say on vaccines and the economy. But also holds quite the divisive stance on Palestine. It's likely that with his "anti-globalist" messaging he draws more right-wing minded voters, or at least some undecided center-left voters. Probably he'd do damage to both Biden and Trump if he was receiving more spotlight though.

I think he's one of the more realistic "third-party" candidates so if I could find a market on which third party candidate would get the most votes my money would certainly be on him.

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March 13, 2024, 03:31:06 AM
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Number one factor will be the economy, check this graph out for jobs creation:
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While this might be some positive spin for Biden the reality is not something not always believed by workers on the ground.  I dont doubt the data is there as indicated in that specific layout,  if only because Biden came in after a pandemic and there has been some revival from that backdrop no doubt.   I personally feel many western economies are suffering and the effects are quite unfair because inflation benefits a few who can make debts work in their favor while being able to renew that debt at rates below inflation hence its a subsidy to their business usually.

Workers who are struggling to match bills with pay unevenly matched to inflation may not find this graph accurate to their own personal situation.  If that is true and enough people feel the economy is bad then Biden being upset in his reelection remains quite possible, its probably the most powerful simple factor there is to deciding success or not.

LOL.. nothing can be more deceptive than this graph. Trump was the one who put economy back on track, but then the COVID pandemic hit the United States and a lot of people lost their jobs. And that is the reason why net job creation is negative for him. Biden took over during the recovery phase and benefitted from that. I would still tell one thing. If Biden was the president of the United States when COVID struck, then the American economy would have been in a horrible state by now.

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March 13, 2024, 04:37:32 PM
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Number one factor will be the economy, check this graph out for jobs creation:
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While this might be some positive spin for Biden the reality is not something not always believed by workers on the ground.  I dont doubt the data is there as indicated in that specific layout,  if only because Biden came in after a pandemic and there has been some revival from that backdrop no doubt.   I personally feel many western economies are suffering and the effects are quite unfair because inflation benefits a few who can make debts work in their favor while being able to renew that debt at rates below inflation hence its a subsidy to their business usually.

Workers who are struggling to match bills with pay unevenly matched to inflation may not find this graph accurate to their own personal situation.  If that is true and enough people feel the economy is bad then Biden being upset in his reelection remains quite possible, its probably the most powerful simple factor there is to deciding success or not.

LOL.. nothing can be more deceptive than this graph. Trump was the one who put economy back on track, but then the COVID pandemic hit the United States and a lot of people lost their jobs. And that is the reason why net job creation is negative for him. Biden took over during the recovery phase and benefitted from that. I would still tell one thing. If Biden was the president of the United States when COVID struck, then the American economy would have been in a horrible state by now.

Right, that is something which I always immediately comes to mind when I see that graph. During the full catastrophe of the COVID-19 Donald Trump was the president of the United States, and the state of the economy because of the quarantine was going to lead to a decrease in the positions available within the job market sonnwr or later. It was outside of the reach of power of the presidency of the country the amount of jobs which were supposed to be created that year.
Regardless of whether who was the president during that period of time, the result would have been the same: a decrease of jobs.
Though, I do not completely agree on the remarks about the economy had it in the hands on the hands of Biden or a democrat administration, I believe the situations would be pretty similar to what we see nowadays.

Actually, Democrats blame Trump on a bad handling on the state of emergency during the pandemic, because how he initially refused to the quarantine measures.

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Something interesting came up. While Haley didn't have a particularly good run in the primaries, it seems as though more of her supporters (who are registered republicans) will be interested to vote for Biden other than Trump.
If we conclude that these supporters would get away from the party line and vote for a democratic candidate over Trump, then if Biden is alive by then (lol) it kinda shows that people might be underestimating his chances to win.

I get that there are many people very passionate about Trump but even among Republican circles he's been very divisive. Quite a few people like Mike Pence too, or any of the other candidates that appeared in the primaries, and we saw that they had quite a few select words for Trump. So it'll be interesting to see if these displeased voters would be enough to sway the vote towards Biden.

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March 16, 2024, 11:13:27 PM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/03/05/can-congress-disqualify-trump-what-to-know-after-supreme-court-keeps-him-on-ballot/

Wake up babe, new democrat shenanigans just dropped. So it seems as though democrats might be plotting to vote for a disqualification for Donald Trump for him to not be able to run in the presidential race. It's interesting to see this take place and be discussed as a realistic scenario. However the house of representatives is going to remain a republican majority as it is now throughout the presidential elections so such a vote is unlikely to pass when it would need somewhere around a dozen of republican votes to also pass.

Any Republican going against Trump right now would be dooming his career as well as his party. Trumpers got it their way, and nevertrumpers seem to have no other way other than to sit this one out waiting in silence.
The realistic scenarios where trump is barred from the presidency would require majority votes from both senate and house, which could even then be struck down. Especially after the recent supreme court ruling. So the potential outcomes where we'll see Trump being barred from the presidency have very slim chances at this point.

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March 17, 2024, 11:14:48 AM
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Something interesting came up. While Haley didn't have a particularly good run in the primaries, it seems as though more of her supporters (who are registered republicans) will be interested to vote for Biden other than Trump.
If we conclude that these supporters would get away from the party line and vote for a democratic candidate over Trump, then if Biden is alive by then (lol) it kinda shows that people might be underestimating his chances to win.

I get that there are many people very passionate about Trump but even among Republican circles he's been very divisive. Quite a few people like Mike Pence too, or any of the other candidates that appeared in the primaries, and we saw that they had quite a few select words for Trump. So it'll be interesting to see if these displeased voters would be enough to sway the vote towards Biden.

Lets wait and see if that really happens. Both Trump and Biden are doing efforts to gain some of Haley supporters but Haley always mentioned that she will not support Trump so it could have an outcome on the elections. Still a long way to go and a lot can still happen.



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March 17, 2024, 12:22:23 PM
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A lot of people are forgetting that Trump has a lot of pending cases in the US. Plus the fact that not a lot of Republicans are still that impressed of him. Even so, the huge guys in the Senate and House of Representatives are still fully supportive of the yellow guy and will do everything to make sure that their pet gets into the scene and run for presidency. I'm not comfortable with Biden taking the second term, much more Trump leading the helm of this nation again, but if I were given the choice to choose between the two, I'd take Biden and hope that Kamala takes the lead should Biden 'gets sick' due to his age.



Something interesting came up. While Haley didn't have a particularly good run in the primaries, it seems as though more of her supporters (who are registered republicans) will be interested to vote for Biden other than Trump.
If we conclude that these supporters would get away from the party line and vote for a democratic candidate over Trump, then if Biden is alive by then (lol) it kinda shows that people might be underestimating his chances to win.

I get that there are many people very passionate about Trump but even among Republican circles he's been very divisive. Quite a few people like Mike Pence too, or any of the other candidates that appeared in the primaries, and we saw that they had quite a few select words for Trump. So it'll be interesting to see if these displeased voters would be enough to sway the vote towards Biden.

Ahh, 3 million people is NOT ENOUGH to sway the election. Remember Hillary Clinton running against this guy and winning the popular votes yet losing the electorals? That can still pretty much happen so I'm not really confident about Haley's supporters.
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Something interesting came up. While Haley didn't have a particularly good run in the primaries, it seems as though more of her supporters (who are registered republicans) will be interested to vote for Biden other than Trump.
If we conclude that these supporters would get away from the party line and vote for a democratic candidate over Trump, then if Biden is alive by then (lol) it kinda shows that people might be underestimating his chances to win.

I get that there are many people very passionate about Trump but even among Republican circles he's been very divisive. Quite a few people like Mike Pence too, or any of the other candidates that appeared in the primaries, and we saw that they had quite a few select words for Trump. So it'll be interesting to see if these displeased voters would be enough to sway the vote towards Biden.

Lets wait and see if that really happens. Both Trump and Biden are doing efforts to gain some of Haley supporters but Haley always mentioned that she will not support Trump so it could have an outcome on the elections. Still a long way to go and a lot can still happen.

Well, at this level, the way things are happening, they're focusing on it like it's a media problem and this has really kept people guessing about what's going to happen, how they're going to be able to do things later on, so in view Of these things, I think that Trump wants to eliminate him whatever from the presidential race, I see that they are using what they have so that he cannot reach the presidency again, it is clear that this type of thing is a Warning , I don't know. how much force they exert in the Colleges, but when the Colleges cast their vote they are final and there is nothing to do there, the voters in the USA will always have the premise of choosing the candidate who offers them the most things so that they can fulfill them and the country will go in a better direction than the previous one.

I do not think Biden has as much power as Trump, and that is a very good story , because I have seen that most people are for Trump, but they feel an air of shame in saying that they support Trump, these things are the that make us be very critical when reviewing events, because in truth there is no definitive line on which candidate they want to support in the US.

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