2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets!

[FanEagle]

Well, trying to get votes is exactly what politicians must do, that is literally the way to get elected. If Trump says that he is in favour of Crypto and if crypto people in the USA do not like the way Biden has handled the situations, then they may end up voting for Biden anyway if they hate Trump too much but there is a likeliness that Trump could get his own voters to come out and vote, independents to vote, and maybe even some dems to vote, it is a good strategy for sure.

Is the population of crypto people who would switch big enough? We do not know, I do not think so, but every vote matters, right amount of few thousand votes at the right place, could switch the winner easily, so he is going to try without a doubt.

[alani123]

I think in the end the big crypto firm heads might not be that adamant about supporting Trump either. They've put themselves in a sweet spot where they are established at the top with harsh regulation now so competitors are hard to climb the ladder.

If trump opens up the market then they're gonna lose out though this process so there's high possibility quite a few of them will want to maintain the status quo and allow Biden have a second term. Funnily enough though, the miners are very anti democrat at least on the local level given how outspoken some democrats have been against mining on environmental terms. But for the presidential race we will have to wait and see. The donations will speak for themselves.

[Hispo]

I think in the end the big crypto firm heads might not be that adamant about supporting Trump either. They've put themselves in a sweet spot where they are established at the top with harsh regulation now so competitors are hard to climb the ladder.

If trump opens up the market then they're gonna lose out though this process so there's high possibility quite a few of them will want to maintain the status quo and allow Biden have a second term. Funnily enough though, the miners are very anti democrat at least on the local level given how outspoken some democrats have been against mining on environmental terms. But for the presidential race we will have to wait and see. The donations will speak for themselves.

I would like to think miners would rather to be part of the transition to clean energy instead having another four years of rule under someone like Trump, who has already proven to be as anti-democratic as one can bet within the United States. I believe democracy is more important than having easier access to energy in the next years to mine, if miners want to have someone of the republican party in the white house who would not be as strict as Biden is, then it would be healthy for the rest of the democratic system in the country for them to wait for the next republican candidate who will replace Trump as the leader of the party, once Trumps is gone for good.
It would be very difficult for anyone in the next generation of Republicans to surpass Trump in anti democratic behavior and recklessness.
It is not supposed to even been in discussion, it does not matter how pro cryptocurrency a candidate is, if that person is not willing to access the result of elections, then it is a danger.

[ChiBitCTy]

Man that’s a sorry list of human beings for the most part.  You are correct OP that by the law of averages, both candidates are well over the age of male deaths in the United States, which for the first time in many years has actually gone down, instead of up. I despise them both, and both clearly are in the stages of cognitive decline. In 2016 I was sure Hilary was going to win. I voted off ballot but laid a bet on her. I obviously lost that bet. Honestly the odds are about 50/50. The electoral college helps that be the case. Sadly.

Long story short, laying no bets , at least as of right now.

[Hispo]

Man that’s a sorry list of human beings for the most part.  You are correct OP that by the law of averages, both candidates are well over the age of male deaths in the United States, which for the first time in many years has actually gone down, instead of up. I despise them both, and both clearly are in the stages of cognitive decline. In 2016 I was sure Hilary was going to win. I voted off ballot but laid a bet on her. I obviously lost that bet. Honestly the odds are about 50/50. The electoral college helps that be the case. Sadly.

Long story short, laying no bets , at least as of right now.

Well, I would dare to say most of people in the United States would rather to have different options for this presidency, instead only these two, but when comes to betting it is helpful to separate the personal preferences from our expectations on who is likely to win the election. There will be people who despise Biden who they are putting money on him as the possible winner of this incoming election, you know.
By the way, talking about the past 2016 election, Hillary had quite a good chance on getting the presidency for herself, but I the fact she was a woman could have played against her chances, it is not a coincidence all the presidents within the history of the nation have been men, after all.
Who knows, perhaps if the Stormy Daniels story had not been suppressed, then people would have rather to give Hillary a chance, instead Trump, back then politics was normal enough for people to care about their president being a womanizer.

[STT]

The ironic thing is the Stormy Daniels story could have received a blank denial, regardless of whether its true or not.  The tape recordings of Trump speaking and being verbally abusive towards women had potential to be far more damaging.  Clinton said after that it was over, she was preparing for office or at least thats how it came across.

Trump could do no wrong seemingly in his campaign, it wasnt a fine tuned machine to begin with as it crashed plenty.   People overlooked and went with him anyway or at least the right percentages in the electoral collage etc.

The Debate with Biden on June 24th is going to be when I next bet on this especially because it could change alot.  I'm not sure its the best thing for Biden to do but apparently the polls are so bad his staff have decided yes he should.  He can reherase plenty of course, work to do but verbal show down with someone who breaks the rules I dont know that works out well for him this time.

https://apnews.com/article/2024-election-presidential-debates-biden-trump-6b1d1dbb2ed61c7637041b23662d7da8

[FanEagle]

To be fair crypto people will not be big enough to mean anything for this elections at all, and it is 10% 0guaranteed that Biden will win the popular vote there is no doubt about that part. But, who will become the president? I am not entirely sure. The thing is, while what Trump stands for is disgusting, sometimes you need to do disgusting things to keep your country safe, and while what liberals "wish" is such a good and naively well mannered thing, you may end up getting hurt if you just try to be good and just become gullible instead. So, if this was a question of "who is the better human, nicer human?"

I would say Biden is 100x times nicer and kinder and better person than Trump no doubt, Trump is a POS, buuuuuut... does that mean he is not what USA needs? Not sure, maybe USA needs a POS for 4 years to fix some stuff, then go back to nicer presidents.

[Sithara007]

I would say Biden is 100x times nicer and kinder and better person than Trump no doubt, Trump is a POS, buuuuuut... does that mean he is not what USA needs? Not sure, maybe USA needs a POS for 4 years to fix some stuff, then go back to nicer presidents.

When Biden became the POTUS, the economy was in great health (despite the negative impact from the COVID pandemic). Rather than building upon it, he managed to make life difficult for everyone. Inflation is at record high, in part due to stupid policies from Biden related to oil production. And then there are other issues, such as the situation at Southern border. Trump maybe a businessman and he may be considered as rude and arrogant. But when he was the POTUS, the American economy was doing really good.

[Hispo]

I would say Biden is 100x times nicer and kinder and better person than Trump no doubt, Trump is a POS, buuuuuut... does that mean he is not what USA needs? Not sure, maybe USA needs a POS for 4 years to fix some stuff, then go back to nicer presidents.

When Biden became the POTUS, the economy was in great health (despite the negative impact from the COVID pandemic). Rather than building upon it, he managed to make life difficult for everyone. Inflation is at record high, in part due to stupid policies from Biden related to oil production. And then there are other issues, such as the situation at Southern border. Trump maybe a businessman and he may be considered as rude and arrogant. But when he was the POTUS, the American economy was doing really good.

So? Are we supposed to ignore Joe Biden managed to push unemployment to the lowest numbers in the lastest decades in the United States and also how the stock market is reacting lately, showing record high numbers with in all industrial indexes?
It is true that at the beginning of the Biden administration there was quite a high inflation, but that had much to do with the fact Trump has to send around 2000$ dollars of stimulus money to the American people, so they could continue to live their lives during the pandemic, he was creating money out of nowhere so the country would not collapse. Once the pandemic was over and people could go back to their work and buy stuff as usual, they found a market with inflated prices because all those stimulus checked which were spent during the pandemic and shortly after it.
Since Biden got into the presidency, he has managed to reduce the inflation rather he inherited.
He is not perfect, that is true, but he is more reasonable as a politician than Trump is, Trump talks about the southern border and still he does not have presented a plan to solve the issue, he talks about Obama care, and yet he does not put some replacement for it on the table.

[alani123]

Are we supposed to ignore Joe Biden managed to push unemployment to the lowest numbers in the lastest decades in the United States and also how the stock market is reacting lately, showing record high numbers with in all industrial indexes?

Most people don't care about the stock market. Yes, many people have a horse in the race even indirectly especially given that at least indirectly some of their pension savings and earnings are going to depend on the stock market. But it's a very lopsided market. AFAIK the top 10% own over 90% of stocks in value. So in reality very few to almost none of the country's working population holds a significant stake in the stock market. It going up doesn't improve people's lives in a tangible way.

If you actually account for inflation, the purchasing power of the average American household has remained stagnant since 2019. Biden could have done many things to decrease spending needs of the average American household. Many popular measures were proposed by Bernie. Such as making health-care and education public, cutting pentagon funding and stopping foreign war shipments and aid to instead invest domestically. Instead Biden did everything in his power to sabotage Bernie.

I kinda agree that Biden did some good things that Trump would never do like invest in public transport infrastructure, but to say he's better is an overstatement. They both suck. And to a large extent, they both stand for the same shit. See for example the tariffs Democrats were fighting Trump over, now Biden introduced the most sweeping tariffs in recent years! Ironic to say the least.

If you ask me, if Americans want to see hope at the end of the tunnel they should quit nagging about there not being a viable third option and organize to create one. I wouldn't bet on a third party candidate becoming president in this election but it's a viable 8 year plan.

[Sithara007]

So? Are we supposed to ignore Joe Biden managed to push unemployment to the lowest numbers in the lastest decades in the United States and also how the stock market is reacting lately, showing record high numbers with in all industrial indexes?
It is true that at the beginning of the Biden administration there was quite a high inflation, but that had much to do with the fact Trump has to send around 2000$ dollars of stimulus money to the American people, so they could continue to live their lives during the pandemic, he was creating money out of nowhere so the country would not collapse. Once the pandemic was over and people could go back to their work and buy stuff as usual, they found a market with inflated prices because all those stimulus checked which were spent during the pandemic and shortly after it.
Since Biden got into the presidency, he has managed to reduce the inflation rather he inherited.
He is not perfect, that is true, but he is more reasonable as a politician than Trump is, Trump talks about the southern border and still he does not have presented a plan to solve the issue, he talks about Obama care, and yet he does not put some replacement for it on the table.

Both Biden and Trump have their own positives and negatives. For different demographic and political groups, different factors will matter more. Inflation is still quite high, and one of the main reasons is the rising crude oil price. And I would blame Biden for this. Low unemployment is good news for the American public. But at the same time, it was Trump who discouraged manufacturers from shifting their factories to low cost destinations such as Mexico. Also, let's not forget the fact that Trump lost the elections in 2020 only due to the pandemic. He was leading in all the opinion polls before that.

[Wakate]

I would say Biden is 100x times nicer and kinder and better person than Trump no doubt, Trump is a POS, buuuuuut... does that mean he is not what USA needs? Not sure, maybe USA needs a POS for 4 years to fix some stuff, then go back to nicer presidents.

When Biden became the POTUS, the economy was in great health (despite the negative impact from the COVID pandemic). Rather than building upon it, he managed to make life difficult for everyone. Inflation is at record high, in part due to stupid policies from Biden related to oil production. And then there are other issues, such as the situation at Southern border. Trump maybe a businessman and he may be considered as rude and arrogant. But when he was the POTUS, the American economy was doing really good.

With the way we are seeing everything happening in the United States, we might be surprised that Donald Trump cold win the elect looking at the way the economy is becoming worse with time. I think if Trump was to be the president, the current war between Ukraine and Russia would have not happened and thing would not as severe as what we are seeing. The economy of the United States has plummeted and this is as a result of the president not being feet enough to handle the seat. Biden is too old to lead the country and he needs a lots of rest so that he can treat himself and relax enjoying himself without too much stress.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I would say Biden is 100x times nicer and kinder and better person than Trump no doubt, Trump is a POS, buuuuuut... does that mean he is not what USA needs? Not sure, maybe USA needs a POS for 4 years to fix some stuff, then go back to nicer presidents.

When Biden became the POTUS, the economy was in great health (despite the negative impact from the COVID pandemic). Rather than building upon it, he managed to make life difficult for everyone. Inflation is at record high, in part due to stupid policies from Biden related to oil production. And then there are other issues, such as the situation at Southern border. Trump maybe a businessman and he may be considered as rude and arrogant. But when he was the POTUS, the American economy was doing really good.

With the way we are seeing everything happening in the United States, we might be surprised that Donald Trump cold win the elect looking at the way the economy is becoming worse with time. I think if Trump was to be the president, the current war between Ukraine and Russia would have not happened and thing would not as severe as what we are seeing. The economy of the United States has plummeted and this is as a result of the president not being feet enough to handle the seat. Biden is too old to lead the country and he needs a lots of rest so that he can treat himself and relax enjoying himself without too much stress.

Well, the truth is I think the same as you, although you have to see that there are opinions that are very attached to the political sentiment of the Organizations and that can make a difference, there are people who are very political on a global level. and they have their good points , but Considering how Trump is, well that may be very true, perhaps in his hands there has not been a war like tha t, even so I am not American4, nor do I live there, but from an economic point of view. From the point of view they are very strong despite the fact that they have a large inflation and that they have not been able to correct many problems, I do not know if that is the president's fault, it may be that other politicians, Congress among others do not allow it to be Develop certain development plans and make Biden's management look bad, which is not so bad either.

[target]

I would say Biden is 100x times nicer and kinder and better person than Trump no doubt, Trump is a POS, buuuuuut... does that mean he is not what USA needs? Not sure, maybe USA needs a POS for 4 years to fix some stuff, then go back to nicer presidents.

When Biden became the POTUS, the economy was in great health (despite the negative impact from the COVID pandemic). Rather than building upon it, he managed to make life difficult for everyone. Inflation is at record high, in part due to stupid policies from Biden related to oil production. And then there are other issues, such as the situation at Southern border. Trump maybe a businessman and he may be considered as rude and arrogant. But when he was the POTUS, the American economy was doing really good.

With the way we are seeing everything happening in the United States, we might be surprised that Donald Trump cold win the elect looking at the way the economy is becoming worse with time. I think if Trump was to be the president, the current war between Ukraine and Russia would have not happened and thing would not as severe as what we are seeing. The economy of the United States has plummeted and this is as a result of the president not being feet enough to handle the seat. Biden is too old to lead the country and he needs a lots of rest so that he can treat himself and relax enjoying himself without too much stress.

Well, the truth is I think the same as you, although you have to see that there are opinions that are very attached to the political sentiment of the Organizations and that can make a difference, there are people who are very political on a global level. and they have their good points , but Considering how Trump is, well that may be very true, perhaps in his hands there has not been a war like tha t, even so I am not American4, nor do I live there, but from an economic point of view. From the point of view they are very strong despite the fact that they have a large inflation and that they have not been able to correct many problems, I do not know if that is the president's fault, it may be that other politicians, Congress among others do not allow it to be Develop certain development plans and make Biden's management look bad, which is not so bad either.

Many people are already favoring Trump for the next election as they complain it was better when he was the one sitting as president than Biden. Gas and food were more affordable when we were around.

And the rallies he made in different cities are more crowded, Trump is definitely winning. There is only one scenario that might happen according to political analysts if he won the day of the election, there might be democrats who will not accept his presidency and there will be protests everywhere which will turn into civil war.

[Hispo]

Are we supposed to ignore Joe Biden managed to push unemployment to the lowest numbers in the lastest decades in the United States and also how the stock market is reacting lately, showing record high numbers with in all industrial indexes?

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If you ask me, if Americans want to see hope at the end of the tunnel they should quit nagging about there not being a viable third option and organize to create one. I wouldn't bet on a third party candidate becoming president in this election but it's a viable 8 year plan.

Actually, it is quite ironic you mention no many people cares about the stock market, since I recall no long ago Trump mentioned the stock market would crash under the direction of a biden administration, when it did not happen all he could do was to say the stock market was doing excellent as an anticipation to his possible win on November of this year, Keep in mind this is something he says to his followers, so we could argue his followers do indeed care about it, not even mentioning the stock market is a thermometer on how the American economy is doing.
Anyways, keeping that aside I agree with you the state of the American politics is quite a mess both from the democrat party and the republican party and still, the system is rigged by both parties to avoid the surge of a third party which could dethrone them and break the status quo of corruption and grifting from donors. Disillusioned Republicans end up voting Democrat and Disillusioned democrats end up voting republican. It is what people call the Uniparty.

By the way, talking about odds and the chances Trump still has, the democrat establishment and the traditional media is panicking on how Trump seems to be gaining traction on swings states like Arizona lately, even if there are political commentators who say polls mean nothing, those are polls which cannot be easy ignored.

[FanEagle]

Many people are already favoring Trump for the next election as they complain it was better when he was the one sitting as president than Biden. Gas and food were more affordable when we were around.

And the rallies he made in different cities are more crowded, Trump is definitely winning. There is only one scenario that might happen according to political analysts if he won the day of the election, there might be democrats who will not accept his presidency and there will be protests everywhere which will turn into civil war.

To be fair inflation started during Trump, and just kept going with Biden who did not fix anything. I do know that there are a lot of Americans who prefer one or the other, and I know they do become hooligan when it comes to politics (most people in Europe are not as politic like Americans) and some even make it their life, and that's weird to see because when you look at both candidates, it's clear that both sucks. I am not saying that other nations have better candidates, but because we have two terrible candidates, we just ignore politics and realize that it's a null sum game for the citizens.

Americans should realize that too, no matter whichever one wins, the citizens will lose, it's as simple as that. Best response would be if this election had very few votes, like 10-20% less than last time, maybe more. Whoever wins, that would provide politicians with something.

[criptoevangelista]

I was even thinking about betting something on Trump, but it looks like it's going to be a very tight dispute due to the position regarding cryptocurrencies... The narrative now is this: who else is going to support this market... Trump started saying he will support freedom, Biden has the narrative about ETFs... Difficult decision on which one to bet on, I'll wait a little longer to see what will happen.

[Slow death]

I was even thinking about betting something on Trump, but it looks like it's going to be a very tight dispute due to the position regarding cryptocurrencies... The narrative now is this: who else is going to support this market... Trump started saying he will support freedom, Biden has the narrative about ETFs... Difficult decision on which one to bet on, I'll wait a little longer to see what will happen.

these surveys that are carried out during elections, in my opinion people should not look at this data provided by research companies as certain data about what will happen in the future, today the data may be giving trump as the candidate who will win the elections, but on election day people are surprised by the official result, that's why I don't dare to place a bet on who will be the winner of this election, because it's difficult to analyze the two candidates without the person focusing on the data of surveys that are provided by survey companies, which is funny because these surveys are interviews carried out with a small number of people. I hope that people who want to bet on the winner of these elections don't put too much money into the bet

[Hispo]

I was even thinking about betting something on Trump, but it looks like it's going to be a very tight dispute due to the position regarding cryptocurrencies... The narrative now is this: who else is going to support this market... Trump started saying he will support freedom, Biden has the narrative about ETFs... Difficult decision on which one to bet on, I'll wait a little longer to see what will happen.

But you are seeing the context from an incorrect point of view, as a bettor. I don't believe it would be wise to bet in favor of Trump or Biden only based how would be better for the market of Bitcoin or the advance of Cryptocurrency in the American society. In some polls and I have checked, the issue of cryptocurrency adoption is not even in the top of the priorities of the average USA citizen.
The priority always is about either access to healthcare, so called "social problems" housing, environmental policies, abortion and body autonomy, among other things.

Betting on a candidate is not about supporting his ideas for cryptoruccenty or adoption, but rather about making money out your prediction and intuition. Would you bet for a candidate with has 80% of winning but you do not like his political plan? or would you bet on the other candidate you like but only has 20% chances?

Betting is about making money, if you want to directly or indirectly support a candidate, either vote for him or donate to their campaign. It makes more sense to me.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I would say Biden is 100x times nicer and kinder and better person than Trump no doubt, Trump is a POS, buuuuuut... does that mean he is not what USA needs? Not sure, maybe USA needs a POS for 4 years to fix some stuff, then go back to nicer presidents.

When Biden became the POTUS, the economy was in great health (despite the negative impact from the COVID pandemic). Rather than building upon it, he managed to make life difficult for everyone. Inflation is at record high, in part due to stupid policies from Biden related to oil production. And then there are other issues, such as the situation at Southern border. Trump maybe a businessman and he may be considered as rude and arrogant. But when he was the POTUS, the American economy was doing really good.

With the way we are seeing everything happening in the United States, we might be surprised that Donald Trump cold win the elect looking at the way the economy is becoming worse with time. I think if Trump was to be the president, the current war between Ukraine and Russia would have not happened and thing would not as severe as what we are seeing. The economy of the United States has plummeted and this is as a result of the president not being feet enough to handle the seat. Biden is too old to lead the country and he needs a lots of rest so that he can treat himself and relax enjoying himself without too much stress.

Well, the truth is I think the same as you, although you have to see that there are opinions that are very attached to the political sentiment of the Organizations and that can make a difference, there are people who are very political on a global level. and they have their good points , but Considering how Trump is, well that may be very true, perhaps in his hands there has not been a war like tha t, even so I am not American4, nor do I live there, but from an economic point of view. From the point of view they are very strong despite the fact that they have a large inflation and that they have not been able to correct many problems, I do not know if that is the president's fault, it may be that other politicians, Congress among others do not allow it to be Develop certain development plans and make Biden's management look bad, which is not so bad either.

Many people are already favoring Trump for the next election as they complain it was better when he was the one sitting as president than Biden. Gas and food were more affordable when we were around.

And the rallies he made in different cities are more crowded, Trump is definitely winning. There is only one scenario that might happen according to political analysts if he won the day of the election, there might be democrats who will not accept his presidency and there will be protests everywhere which will turn into civil war.

Well, the economy in the USA is considerable enough to accept that there are many bad things, it cannot be compared from what was experienced a few years ago when Trump was president to the current situation, even though Trump seemed like an impulsive idiot. He never was when he was president, in fact now he has many reasons that make many officials in the USA tremble and have made his life impossible, and the USA, due to the economic situation they are going through, it is likely that if he wins, that if a civil war or something like that, well, I hope something like that doesn't happen, because many innocent people would lose their lives and that is never good, but politicians must accept the decision of their people.