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August 20, 2024, 06:56:01 AM
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There is always a trap in gambling and foe a gambler to escape that trap is not easy. And the trap is one win and serval lose. When you win one big, you will be motivated to play more to win more so to draw the line when you are winning is not easy and not possible. But it is only possible when someone lose frequently. As for me I can't give the best option because I am not a chronic gambler and I gamble whenever I feel like or if there is spare funds in my wallet. And leaving gambling nis from the mind of the gambler and not because he lose big or win big. It is just a determination of the person. People are coming to game every day upon all the loses people face in the gambling section.

Yep, it depends on the person as well. Each one of us is built differently and reacts differently too.

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August 20, 2024, 02:54:18 PM
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Yep, it depends on the person as well. Each one of us is built differently and reacts differently too.

I think this is the perfect quote, because everyone of us is different and will react in a different way.

There's no point in making someone look better or worse, it is what it is.

I think many people are OK with that feeling.

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August 20, 2024, 03:22:07 PM
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Just for discussions and ways to educate or share knowledge with ourselves when and how to draw the line when gambling,  because for some reasons, some gamblers have arrived at unstable realities because of the lack of stoppage time while gambling so let's talk.
When do you stop?
Some stop gambling immediately the record a big lose, while others continues when they lose with hope of recovering.
Some other gamblers stop playing when the win they first few games, while other continue to chase the loses, and technically ww can tell in accuracy when this things happens, but when is the best time to stop gambling and take a break?

1-when you lose?
2- when you win?
I stopped when I realized that I would not be able to make it a permanent way of earning money or after a loss, I don’t even remember. But this does not mean that I stopped completely, but only significantly reduced the number and size of bets, I still like them and poker too, I don’t play other gambling games, at least at the moment. To be honest, I don’t know any players from my circle who took a break after winning, because appetite comes with eating and usually bets continue. Of course, I knew cases when a player stopped after winning, but it was not for long, but only for a short time of several days. I think the vast majority of players still stop playing after losses, and the strangest thing is that many of them would like to continue, but they did not have enough money for this and if they had them, they would have continued with double the force. And a long absence of a deposit forces the player to rethink the game and gambling in his life.

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August 20, 2024, 03:41:43 PM
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Yep, it depends on the person as well. Each one of us is built differently and reacts differently too.

I think this is the perfect quote, because everyone of us is different and will react in a different way.

There's no point in making someone look better or worse, it is what it is.

I think many people are OK with that feeling.
Yeah, but I think there should also be a limit on something. We react in different ways but many of us gamblers do not have enough to keep on gambling.
If you are one of those then there must be a plan on gambling. One could be withdrawals if you hit the minimum withdrawals after depositing just enough for the day.
This way we can control our own gambling habits and never be one who gets addicted in the future. I've been doing that now and I feel better. There's no stress because I know to myself that I didn't lose much or I won just enough to call it a day.

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August 20, 2024, 05:46:26 PM
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Yeah, but I think there should also be a limit on something. We react in different ways but many of us gamblers do not have enough to keep on gambling.
If you are one of those then there must be a plan on gambling. One could be withdrawals if you hit the minimum withdrawals after depositing just enough for the day.
This way we can control our own gambling habits and never be one who gets addicted in the future. I've been doing that now and I feel better. There's no stress because I know to myself that I didn't lose much or I won just enough to call it a day.

Many gamblers face this issue,because they thought to withdraw the money with high value.But the gambling site only give the certain percentage,like 5 times of the initial is the high value for the betting.But after seeing the 5 times of the money,the gamblers try to get huge money from the gambling site.But the blunder done by the gambler is they will keep play with the winning money to multiple the holding dollars further high value.The gambler should have to control their emotion while they playing the game,because if the gambling was keep on continuing for the longer period will leads to the huge loss in the gambling site.

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August 21, 2024, 12:42:45 PM
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~snip~
Many gamblers face this issue,because they thought to withdraw the money with high value.But the gambling site only give the certain percentage,like 5 times of the initial is the high value for the betting.But after seeing the 5 times of the money,the gamblers try to get huge money from the gambling site.But the blunder done by the gambler is they will keep play with the winning money to multiple the holding dollars further high value.The gambler should have to control their emotion while they playing the game,because if the gambling was keep on continuing for the longer period will leads to the huge loss in the gambling site.

Yeah, emotions are a thing of course, and it might affect a lot of people, but at the end of the day, the thing that matters the most, and that will probably drive your emotions, is the amount of money that you have lost gambling.

Some people claim they have win millions, but they are quick to hide the fact that they have put more than a couple million in there to get those numbers.

So, in general, most people lose money in gambling.

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August 21, 2024, 02:53:39 PM
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Just for discussions and ways to educate or share knowledge with ourselves when and how to draw the line when gambling,  because for some reasons, some gamblers have arrived at unstable realities because of the lack of stoppage time while gambling so let's talk.
When do you stop?
Some stop gambling immediately the record a big lose, while others continues when they lose with hope of recovering.
Some other gamblers stop playing when the win they first few games, while other continue to chase the loses, and technically ww can tell in accuracy when this things happens, but when is the best time to stop gambling and take a break?

1-when you lose?
2- when you win?



Well,  commonly my mind is racing over breaking my   gambling adventure in both cases. Sure I'm not concerned with the  groats but when the case is the considerable sum of money I usually stop, trying to remain realistic. I feel myself more comfortable  stopping the gambling than proceeding knowing that the latter may result in the shitty thing for my pockets,  which are either full or empty.

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August 21, 2024, 04:35:27 PM
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Yep, it depends on the person as well. Each one of us is built differently and reacts differently too.
that's right, not everyone has the same reaction so there is no certainty either. but comparing the right time to stop when winning or losing is a fairly familiar problem because I think when winning or losing is the right time to stop betting because there is no clear certainty about the victory even though you have won and want to continue the gambling session, it is not possible to win again, in fact it might make the victory disappear again.
it is quite difficult to say when the most appropriate time to stop betting, but I would prefer when the bet that was made has ended in defeat because usually most gamblers cannot stop betting when they cannot accept the reality of losing money. of course when you have lost money does not mean we have to continue betting, but rather reconsider the risks that will clearly occur or it is better to stop without thinking twice.

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Yep, it depends on the person as well. Each one of us is built differently and reacts differently too.
that's right, not everyone has the same reaction so there is no certainty either. but comparing the right time to stop when winning or losing is a fairly familiar problem because I think when winning or losing is the right time to stop betting because there is no clear certainty about the victory even though you have won and want to continue the gambling session, it is not possible to win again, in fact it might make the victory disappear again.
it is quite difficult to say when the most appropriate time to stop betting, but I would prefer when the bet that was made has ended in defeat because usually most gamblers cannot stop betting when they cannot accept the reality of losing money. of course when you have lost money does not mean we have to continue betting, but rather reconsider the risks that will clearly occur or it is better to stop without thinking twice.
Each person would really be having its different;

1. Mindset
2. Reactions
3. Perspective

In neither winning or losing moment on which it would really be that truly understandable that these things would really be that entirely be different in to each other
if we do speak into those people who are really that having those kind of engagement. There would really be those individuals who are really that making up
some decisions on which it is really that will vary into each indivdual and this is why we cant really be making or able to tell on which one would really be able
to save up themselves about addiction and to those who are really that prone.

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I think this is the perfect quote, because everyone of us is different and will react in a different way.

There's no point in making someone look better or worse, it is what it is.

I think many people are OK with that feeling.
Yeah, but I think there should also be a limit on something. We react in different ways but many of us gamblers do not have enough to keep on gambling.
If you are one of those then there must be a plan on gambling. One could be withdrawals if you hit the minimum withdrawals after depositing just enough for the day.
This way we can control our own gambling habits and never be one who gets addicted in the future. I've been doing that now and I feel better. There's no stress because I know to myself that I didn't lose much or I won just enough to call it a day.

True, although we understand that everyone has different habits and ways of thinking that can make their responses and reactions also different in dealing with winning or losing situations, but still that does not mean you should not implement any planning, because planning that leads to prevention is always much better for someone to have, especially gamblers, than they have no preparation at all.

On the other hand, you have said something right by suggesting to have a plan to make a withdrawal when the win comes, and honestly I would not say that these preparations do not mean that they will be able to prevent you from the possibility of addiction completely, because after all, changes are very possible in a person, especially when their level of consciousness begins to decrease, but at least by having a plan that leads to prevention, we can be a little more protected from this possibility than not having any preparation.

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Yeah, emotions are a thing of course, and it might affect a lot of people, but at the end of the day, the thing that matters the most, and that will probably drive your emotions, is the amount of money that you have lost gambling.

Some people claim they have win millions, but they are quick to hide the fact that they have put more than a couple million in there to get those numbers.

So, in general, most people lose money in gambling.

This is a well-known problem of distorted perception of gambling (and some other activities) - people like to brag about their successes, and like to hide their failures. Therefore, for an outside observer, a distorted picture of the "profitability" of gambling is created.
Some influencers (or those who want to become them) deliberately mislead their audience - for example, they place bets on opposite outcomes, and then show only their winning bet, “proving” that their analysis can beat the bookmaker.

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August 21, 2024, 07:42:27 PM
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I think this is the perfect quote, because everyone of us is different and will react in a different way.

There's no point in making someone look better or worse, it is what it is.

I think many people are OK with that feeling.
Yeah, but I think there should also be a limit on something. We react in different ways but many of us gamblers do not have enough to keep on gambling.
If you are one of those then there must be a plan on gambling. One could be withdrawals if you hit the minimum withdrawals after depositing just enough for the day.
This way we can control our own gambling habits and never be one who gets addicted in the future. I've been doing that now and I feel better. There's no stress because I know to myself that I didn't lose much or I won just enough to call it a day.

True, although we understand that everyone has different habits and ways of thinking that can make their responses and reactions also different in dealing with winning or losing situations, but still that does not mean you should not implement any planning, because planning that leads to prevention is always much better for someone to have, especially gamblers, than they have no preparation at all.

On the other hand, you have said something right by suggesting to have a plan to make a withdrawal when the win comes, and honestly I would not say that these preparations do not mean that they will be able to prevent you from the possibility of addiction completely, because after all, changes are very possible in a person, especially when their level of consciousness begins to decrease, but at least by having a plan that leads to prevention, we can be a little more protected from this possibility than not having any preparation.
But most of the time it would really be driven out by your own common sense most of the time. Even if we dosay that someone isnt really that not prepared into those conditions but each one of us does have that kind of self awareness of things on which it would really be that impossible that you wont be able to notice out or mind about on the current condition or situation that you are in. This is why we cant really be able to have that kind of reasoning that we dont really know on what we are doing because on the time or moment that you do gamble then pretty sure that you are aware that you are already losing so much money.
It is really just that people to trying out to ease out those kind of frustration on the moment that it do happens and act out that nothing just happened.

This is why it would really be that better that you should really know on how to set limits and if you dont like to mess up your life so it would really be just that a normal thing to be done
that you should really be that making out those viable decisions on which you do know that it would really be something that save up yourself into that potential trouble.
Conditions and life situations will really be basing up on what are the choices that you would be making.

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Yeah, emotions are a thing of course, and it might affect a lot of people, but at the end of the day, the thing that matters the most, and that will probably drive your emotions, is the amount of money that you have lost gambling.

Some people claim they have win millions, but they are quick to hide the fact that they have put more than a couple million in there to get those numbers.

So, in general, most people lose money in gambling.

This is a well-known problem of distorted perception of gambling (and some other activities) - people like to brag about their successes, and like to hide their failures. Therefore, for an outside observer, a distorted picture of the "profitability" of gambling is created.
Some influencers (or those who want to become them) deliberately mislead their audience - for example, they place bets on opposite outcomes, and then show only their winning bet, “proving” that their analysis can beat the bookmaker.

That is the only disfavor from gambling for a gambler,they cannot really control their emotions because we human being are designed this way,we need to feel something,be it for good or for worse and we react based on what we feel.In the majority of the cases when people lose they tend to react to that losing with depositing more money and they continue to do so chasing loses when in fact they should stop,of course this is easier said than done and that is the biggest benefit to casinos,the people emotions,the reaction they have to gambling loses,which in most cases is irrational and non logical decisions that in the long term enrich the casinos.This is when the line should be drawn,when someone is losing big and he continues to deposit instead of stopping.

 
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August 21, 2024, 08:06:38 PM
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Many gamblers face this issue,because they thought to withdraw the money with high value.But the gambling site only give the certain percentage,like 5 times of the initial is the high value for the betting.But after seeing the 5 times of the money,the gamblers try to get huge money from the gambling site.But the blunder done by the gambler is they will keep play with the winning money to multiple the holding dollars further high value.The gambler should have to control their emotion while they playing the game,because if the gambling was keep on continuing for the longer period will leads to the huge loss in the gambling site.

Yeah, emotions are a thing of course, and it might affect a lot of people, but at the end of the day, the thing that matters the most, and that will probably drive your emotions, is the amount of money that you have lost gambling.

Some people claim they have win millions, but they are quick to hide the fact that they have put more than a couple million in there to get those numbers.

So, in general, most people lose money in gambling.
Of course, only few gamblers I think must have won more than they have put into the casino because they were lucky to win huge amount in a short period of time when they started gambling. I am an example to this because I have lost so much to gamble but only win little amount. This is why it is important to reduce your losses by gambling with only the amount of money that you can afford to avoid your emotional trauma.

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Many gamblers face this issue,because they thought to withdraw the money with high value.But the gambling site only give the certain percentage,like 5 times of the initial is the high value for the betting.But after seeing the 5 times of the money,the gamblers try to get huge money from the gambling site.But the blunder done by the gambler is they will keep play with the winning money to multiple the holding dollars further high value.The gambler should have to control their emotion while they playing the game,because if the gambling was keep on continuing for the longer period will leads to the huge loss in the gambling site.

Yeah, emotions are a thing of course, and it might affect a lot of people, but at the end of the day, the thing that matters the most, and that will probably drive your emotions, is the amount of money that you have lost gambling.

Some people claim they have win millions, but they are quick to hide the fact that they have put more than a couple million in there to get those numbers.

So, in general, most people lose money in gambling.
Of course, only few gamblers I think must have won more than they have put into the casino because they were lucky to win huge amount in a short period of time when they started gambling. I am an example to this because I have lost so much to gamble but only win little amount. This is why it is important to reduce your losses by gambling with only the amount of money that you can afford to avoid your emotional trauma.
Sometimes it might be that they have lost enough money than they have deposited but they were still lucky to recover from their losses because they weren't able to lose all the money that they deposited earlier. Gamble is really fun when we are winning (no doubts about that) but can be tragic when we are losing. However it's true that it's only few of these gamblers that have the opportunities to withdraw their money.

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Just for discussions and ways to educate or share knowledge with ourselves when and how to draw the line when gambling,  because for some reasons, some gamblers have arrived at unstable realities because of the lack of stoppage time while gambling so let's talk.
When do you stop?
Some stop gambling immediately the record a big lose, while others continues when they lose with hope of recovering.
Some other gamblers stop playing when the win they first few games, while other continue to chase the loses, and technically ww can tell in accuracy when this things happens, but when is the best time to stop gambling and take a break?

1-when you lose?
2- when you win?
Actually, I want to say that this question should be one more option and that is both i.e. before gambling make a personal strategy on the based of your budget  or what you can lose that will not have any effect on yourself or your family.

When you will go for gambling you will face both loss and winn but chasing only one of them I think it will be stupidity it should be by the pre strategy and after that it can be when you lose or when you win. Like when wining amount will touch you will take the break and the same thing when your losing limit crosses immediately take the break.

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Yeah, emotions are a thing of course, and it might affect a lot of people, but at the end of the day, the thing that matters the most, and that will probably drive your emotions, is the amount of money that you have lost gambling.

Some people claim they have win millions, but they are quick to hide the fact that they have put more than a couple million in there to get those numbers.

So, in general, most people lose money in gambling.

This is a well-known problem of distorted perception of gambling (and some other activities) - people like to brag about their successes, and like to hide their failures. Therefore, for an outside observer, a distorted picture of the "profitability" of gambling is created.
Some influencers (or those who want to become them) deliberately mislead their audience - for example, they place bets on opposite outcomes, and then show only their winning bet, “proving” that their analysis can beat the bookmaker.

That is the only disfavor from gambling for a gambler,they cannot really control their emotions because we human being are designed this way,we need to feel something,be it for good or for worse and we react based on what we feel.In the majority of the cases when people lose they tend to react to that losing with depositing more money and they continue to do so chasing loses when in fact they should stop,of course this is easier said than done and that is the biggest benefit to casinos,the people emotions,the reaction they have to gambling loses,which in most cases is irrational and non logical decisions that in the long term enrich the casinos.This is when the line should be drawn,when someone is losing big and he continues to deposit instead of stopping.
Sometimes the gambler feel there is no need in them stoping and feel its best they go hard and don't stop since they are already deep in the action. Most times it takes a whole lot of strength for the gambler to actually make that very important decision because at that moment of steady inflow of loses most person actually tend to lose their mind and seem to make or take wrong decisions.

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Just for discussions and ways to educate or share knowledge with ourselves when and how to draw the line when gambling,  because for some reasons, some gamblers have arrived at unstable realities because of the lack of stoppage time while gambling so let's talk.
When do you stop?
Some stop gambling immediately the record a big lose, while others continues when they lose with hope of recovering.
Some other gamblers stop playing when the win they first few games, while other continue to chase the loses, and technically ww can tell in accuracy when this things happens, but when is the best time to stop gambling and take a break?

1-when you lose?
2- when you win?

There is no right answer to that one.  Before you alstart a ruling session set a walk away goal amd once you hit that leave or once you lose to your walk away mark then walk.  So sometimes you will walk on a hot streak amd sometimes on a bad luck streak.  Defining your goals prior to gambling makes that decision easy if you are determined enough to stick to it.

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There is no right answer to that one.  Before you alstart a ruling session set a walk away goal amd once you hit that leave or once you lose to your walk away mark then walk.  So sometimes you will walk on a hot streak amd sometimes on a bad luck streak.  Defining your goals prior to gambling makes that decision easy if you are determined enough to stick to it.

I am on this as you need to take care of your own funds on this addictive activity. If you will not look out for yourself, no one will. So better before you start throwing your money on your games, you should have allocated budget for the session or for certain period of time. If it got busted, then, wait for another period to replenish your budget. Discipline is your biggest enemy here. And most are failing to withstand this enemy, as they are slaves of their desires. And so they continue to play even if they are beyond their limits. And that's when they start having troubles, mostly, in financial aspects.

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Of course, only few gamblers I think must have won more than they have put into the casino because they were lucky to win huge amount in a short period of time when they started gambling. I am an example to this because I have lost so much to gamble but only win little amount. This is why it is important to reduce your losses by gambling with only the amount of money that you can afford to avoid your emotional trauma.

Yeah, that's usually a good advice.

But the flip side of that is that if you put just a bit of money in there, then you can't really make too much money.

At least not an amount that will be life changing, so why bother?

I think both sides of the argument have a point, that you should either bet a lot to see if you win, or bet a little to keep it safe.

Of course the simplest way to wealth is to do something else instead of gambling Smiley

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