Friends engaging on P2P gambling insights grudges amongst themselves

[danherbias07]

Guess what, after all he ended up returning $10 to his friend.
So I ask, did the friend do well in returning $10 to his friend or the returned $10 was not enough?

No, that was actually too much. He could just ignore him and not give anything. Friends' battle on betting doesn't have rakebacks or anything. It's just plain betting and no tax too.
If the other guy wins, will he do the same for you? I doubt that. When it comes to money, friends become enemies.

To me, in general, that seems wickedness of gambling between friends on a P2P because such friends are not worthy to be trusted considering the sentiments in playing to win.
I would say that is a daylight extortions amongst each others.

Because they bet too much. I've done a lot of friends P2P here in our place against friends especially when NBA Finals comes. $10 is the highest bet against me and sometimes some friends would just bet for who will pay for the drinks of one liter of brandy and finger foods when we do our weekend drinking session. I've won that last time when the Denver Nuggets won and my friends did as promised.

The problem with your example is they went too high with their bets and it is not fun anymore. I mean, it's not a friendly battle when you go that high, it becomes a serious gamble. How can you talk about the game afterward if you are angry with each other because the loser is still hurting about the big loss that happened to him?

[Alpha Marine]

Simple small bets are the best when it comes to P2P gambling, doesn't matter if it's someone you know or didn't know, it doesn't matter if you're friends or not. A simple $10 or $20 bet is okay. If those friends had staked small there wouldn't have been any trouble, it would have been fun. It's almost the same with online casinos, if you gamble within your means and not more than you can afford to lose it'll be fun even if you win or lose.

People gamble on P2P all the time. You're not doing it to make money off the next person, you're just doing it for fun, the price of the win isn't really important. There are times I've turned down bets because the money was too high. I didn't gamble not because I couldn't afford it, but because I wouldn't be brutal enough to collect my winnings from the person, I'll just feel sorry for him and let him go, and also because it would no longer be fun for me if I lose a large amount of money over a silly gamble.

[Slow death]

Most people don't seem to understand what it means to separate friendship from games. Let's look at the cases of football players, for example, in a game where Real Madrid plays against PSG, for example, the players on the field will fight among themselves because on the field they need to win, they are doing their job, they need to show the coach and the club president that they are doing everything they can to win the game, on the field they need to show their fans that they are trying hard to win. So both teams on the field are mortal enemies, but when the game ends, then the players from both teams return to talking normally with the feeling of friendship, without any problems, without any anger, without any grudges.

because those players, even though they know they are playing against their friends, they know that on the field there are no friendships or family, on the field they must beat the opponent. This is what many people don't like to understand, they think that when they are playing with friends, then they should continue treating each other as friends and when one friend wins the other friend gets angry and starts physical aggression, here in my country this happens a lot. kind of things. 'For example, here on my street there is a snooker table. The young people on my street are all friends, I'm not their friend, I don't know them. but they know each other very well, many of them grew up together

But when are they going to play snooker? It doesn't take long for them to start insulting each other, they start to humiliate each other and after a while they start to fight each other, all because of just one game of pool, every day I keep asking myself why they continue to insist on playing snooker if Then they will start fighting? What's the point of them doing this? I honestly can't understand it. The only thing that is clear in my head is that I should stay away from them, because if they have that behavior with someone who has lived with them for many years, imagine how they will treat someone they have recently seen. games should not be for mentally unstable people

[bayu7adi]

Gambling and friendship should not be mixed. The relationship between gamblers and each other is that of opponents, you may lose your friendship status at the poker table, but outside the table, you can continue that friendship. If a friend is not ready to lose in p2p betting? So can restraint make the game fun for all participants involved???

If you don't want to damage friendships or the like, it's better not to gamble against friends. Feelings of shyness are what make friendships unattractive. That's why I choose to gamble against other people on online platforms, rather than having to gamble against my own friends.

Have I never gambled against friends??? I do that very often... and our bets are not money, but more likely to be regular food or maybe drinks or small items just for fun... the amount doesn't matter, what matters is the atmosphere.

[EluguHcman]

This is why I don't want to gamble in real P2P, but if my friend keep forcing me, I will ask him to bet as low as possible or bet on ridiculous stuff e.g. candy, snack etc.

You have really made a vital and valuable point here @Jawhead999.
This has got me think otherwise that any friend asking the other to bet with money or some kind of valuable that would be hurt after lost just as these guys did is not worth keeping for friendship because there will always that opinion and aiming for personal interests and without conscience of draining your friends valuables while swimming in the pool of joy at the process.

Definitely playing while some kind of tolerable stakes like edible stuffs are staked would derive more funs .
But while gaming with money staked is assumed they see re chasing profits which definitely the looser will always be sentimental with the other friend (s).

So the good memories of the games would only be if there is no team regreting. Infact, when the other Friend wins when edible stuffs are involved, even the looser will still find funs and smile over it all and that is just how the great memories Will keep rolling amongst themselves.

[ralle14]

Have you ever been in the situation of asking your friend (s) to go down with you on a P2P gambling just between you as friends?

I used to bet against my friend several times before, and if someone's on the losing end they know there's no way to get their money back except for specific reasons.

Back to the topic, the other friend in that situation is stepping over the line, and the winner is already generous enough to give anything back. Getting peer pressured to give a portion of your winnings shouldn't happen unless you're the one who made the initiative.

[virasog]

Have you ever been in the situation of asking your friend (s) to go down with you on a P2P gambling just between you as friends?

This happens especially on the cards, Chess and the other skill-based gambling.
I came across friends fighting throwing words at each other one was expressing his disappointments at his other friend while the other was mocking at him.
It was discovered that the one mocking the other asked the other one to step on let them gamble on a P2P and on the process the one being mocked lost all his funds for the other guy. And he has been asking the guy that won the crown to return him return about 30% out of the $190 lost but the other guy told him that there is no return and no compensations in the gamble so if he must give him back some returns it would be based on his own will.

Well, if you have such a close friendship that playing a P2P game, it will not affect your relationship, only then you should go for the P2P game with your friends and enjoy the time. However, when real money is involved, no one will want to play the game and it can develop into a very tricky situation.
For those who were friends before the game, the P2P game conflict can turn them into enemies and their friendship can be lost forever. So it is very important that we know the state of mind of our friends and if both the friends can bear the loss happily only then they should go for such competitions.

It's competition between two, so what you do expect? specially friends who have known each other so there will be a lot of trash talking and what not. And for sure, they want to beat each other, in a P2P battle.

Its OK to have the competition, to have a fight and express the emotions with the casinos where they are playing the P2P. After the game, they should be back to normal friends and walk out of the casino happily. If the tension between them continues even after they leave the casino, then it is something not expected of them.

[Wind_FURY]

Have you ever been in the situation of asking your friend (s) to go down with you on a P2P gambling just between you as friends?

This happens especially on the cards, Chess and the other skill-based gambling.

I came across friends fighting throwing words at each other one was expressing his disappointments at his other friend while the other was mocking at him.

It was discovered that the one mocking the other asked the other one to step on let them gamble on a P2P and on the process the one being mocked lost all his funds for the other guy. And he has been asking the guy that won the crown to return him return about 30% out of the $190 lost but the other guy told him that there is no return and no compensations in the gamble so if he must give him back some returns it would be based on his own will.

Guess what, after all he ended up returning $10 to his friend.
So I ask, did the friend do well in returning $10 to his friend or the returned $10 was not enough?

To me, in general, that seems wickedness of gambling between friends on a P2P because such friends are not worthy to be trusted considering the sentiments in playing to win.
I would say that is a daylight extortions amongst each others.

Hahaha. If you ask me, if those two were my friends I would get two pairs of boxing gloves and tell them to bet for themselves and have a boxing match until the other man surrenders.

It's actually a very laughable situation because why would anyone ask for some of his/her money back if he/she lost the bet? The lesson there is simply - Don't gamble if you're afraid to lose some money.

[3kpk3]

That is one way to look at it op. P2P gambling can mess up friendships royally for sure, but they can also strengthen them using the right strategies. For example, many gamblers tend to collude with each other in games like poker etc.

This is unethical stuff, but people do it anyways since they prioritise money over morals. If done correctly, they earn money and strengthen their bonds.

[iv4n]

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Hahaha. If you ask me, if those two were my friends I would get two pairs of boxing gloves and tell them to bet for themselves and have a boxing match until the other man surrenders.

It's actually a very laughable situation because why would anyone ask for some of his/her money back if he/she lost the bet? The lesson there is simply - Don't gamble if you're afraid to lose some money.

I think that's exactly the problem here, someone gambled with money they couldn't afford to lose... and when they lost it the crying started. I also think that you have a good proposition here, every problem has a solution, so a boxing match doesn't sound like a bad idea in this case.

The lesson of this story should be that it is not wise to gamble with close friends, some would say that it's also not wise to lend money to friends... that is how friends are lost. I know from experience that this can be very true, of course, there are exceptions and responsible people and friends, but some are difficult and they show their real face in situations where money is involved, especially with some serious amounts.

[davis196]

This happens especially on the cards, Chess and the other skill-based gambling.

Chess isn't a gambling game. Do you play Chess for money(or bet on Chess games)?
Anyway, the people, who get angry and act butthurt when they lose money on gambling aren't mature. Are the guys you were writing about teenagers or young adults? The guy, who lost money should grow a pair of balls and accept his loss. Gambling isn't for children or weak minded men. I totally agree that money can destroy every friendship. If those guys really care about their friendship, they wouldn't agree on playing a gambling game with big bets, or at least they would not care that much about losing or winning 10 dollars.

[Coin_trader]

Hahaha. If you ask me, if those two were my friends I would get two pairs of boxing gloves and tell them to bet for themselves and have a boxing match until the other man surrenders.

This is the typical saying here if someone wants to fist fight but they really don’t want to fight in reality. Just an ego taunt but really afraid to get hurt. But we have this kind boxing tournament during our festival which many participate just to cool down with their personal conflicts.

It's actually a very laughable situation because why would anyone ask for some of his/her money back if he/she lost the bet? The lesson there is simply - Don't gamble if you're afraid to lose some money.

I honestly do this, we usually play poker with my friend then later on just purchased our total profit with food and drinks that we share together. The gambling part is just to decide who will gonna treat us with our meal for that day. It’s really fun as long as you don’t use money that you can’t afford to lose.

[adzino]

Have you ever been in the situation of asking your friend (s) to go down with you on a P2P gambling just between you as friends?

This happens especially on the cards, Chess and the other skill-based gambling.
I came across friends fighting throwing words at each other one was expressing his disappointments at his other friend while the other was mocking at him.
It was discovered that the one mocking the other asked the other one to step on let them gamble on a P2P and on the process the one being mocked lost all his funds for the other guy. And he has been asking the guy that won the crown to return him return about 30% out of the $190 lost but the other guy told him that there is no return and no compensations in the gamble so if he must give him back some returns it would be based on his own will.

Guess what, after all he ended up returning $10 to his friend.
So I ask, did the friend do well in returning $10 to his friend or the returned $10 was not enough?

To me, in general, that seems wickedness of gambling between friends on a P2P because such friends are not worthy to be trusted considering the sentiments in playing to win.
I would say that is a daylight extortions amongst each others.

Your friend do sound very immature to be honest. Why mock when competing with each other? Was it like a "strategy" to distract your friend so he loses the bet? If that is the case, then tell him it's not a fair win. But I doubt the other guy is going to listen. And yeah, you can't ask for your money back when you lose a bet. Not even a portion of it. Since you guys aren't chill enough with each other, I think it is a bad idea to compete against each other, specially when money is involved. This will only ruin your friendship and make things worse.

[Apocollapse]

Your friend do sound very immature to be honest. Why mock when competing with each other? Was it like a "strategy" to distract your friend so he loses the bet? If that is the case, then tell him it's not a fair win.

I think it's just some sort of making fun, like shouting the loser is loser, it gives pressure, but it shouldn't be use as an excuse if he lost.

The lesson of this story should be that it is not wise to gamble with close friends, some would say that it's also not wise to lend money to friends... that is how friends are lost. I know from experience that this can be very true, of course, there are exceptions and responsible people and friends, but some are difficult and they show their real face in situations where money is involved, especially with some serious amounts.

Sometimes I keep thinking what's the benefit of having friends? I think when a friend is genuine ask a loan, he's really struggle and has no way to figure it out except seeking help from his close relative.

If we're limiting those "personal help" to our friends, what's the difference between friends and strangers?

This happens especially on the cards, Chess and the other skill-based gambling.

Chess isn't a gambling game. Do you play Chess for money(or bet on Chess games)?

Same as cards, even you're playing poker, you don't have to stake anything to play. Actually chess is a games that can be used to gamble, many casinos listed chess in their sportsbook.

[Unsoldier]

I have never played P2P gambling with friends and I don't recommend it to anyone. It seems to me that if you play against a friend in such games, you are no longer friends. You can play different games with friends, but not for money and not for bets, but just for fun, so that neither of you will feel bad if you lose. Money can damage friendship, and no amount of money can compensate for the loss of friends.

[rodskee]

Gambling and friendship should not be mixed. The relationship between gamblers and each other is that of opponents, you may lose your friendship status at the poker table, but outside the table, you can continue that friendship. If a friend is not ready to lose in p2p betting? So can restraint make the game fun for all participants involved???

but sometimes you can act as buddy in tipping lol.,so if one losses then the
other one will act sa or may become the winner to give back other losses

If you don't want to damage friendships or the like, it's better not to gamble against friends. Feelings of shyness are what make friendships unattractive. That's why I choose to gamble against other people on online platforms, rather than having to gamble against my own friends.

but we do this often to gamble with each others , sometimes all of us 4 are
betting against each other and yes we are enjoying the game without personal grudge.

Have I never gambled against friends??? I do that very often... and our bets are not money, but more likely to be regular food or maybe drinks or small items just for fun... the amount doesn't matter, what matters is the atmosphere.

that is cool mate, betting for food and drinks? hehe

[Bananington]

When will people learn that the emotions that come with gambling may be too much to bear in many cases after losses mostly with boos from supposed friends trying to worsen the mood?
 When will they get to understand that money creates rift between friendship mostly when it involves gambling and drinking and talking alot without making sense?

When people get to understand that gambling should be for fun and more or less as a way to bond between friends rather than make it as a compulsory activity on frequent basis, only then will issues like this P2p gambling scenario cease.

[Btcdeybodi]

This is why I don't want to gamble in real P2P, but if my friend keep forcing me, I will ask him to bet as low as possible or bet on ridiculous stuff e.g. candy, snack etc.

person to person gambling be it online or in real life is not advisable at all because it can result to violence, hate and anger because I have watched people play gamble with each other and in the process, arguments and suspicion are being raised especially if one of them is winning the other conspicuously, the other will be feeling that he is using diabolical means on him. Though sometimes friends just do it for fun but am not a party to it.

[kotajikikox]

This is why I don't want to gamble in real P2P, but if my friend keep forcing me, I will ask him to bet as low as possible or bet on ridiculous stuff e.g. candy, snack etc.

kinda sweet gaming ,betting snacks for a game i for me the best way to treat  this games to at least ease the eagerness to beat each others, sometimes our friend wanted to prove themselves that they are better or skillful than us thats why they are trying to beat us in games.

It's nothing new for the losers keep complaining about their losses, just like many users in this forum who create fake accusation even though they're loss and broke the rules. That's why third party is needed here.

exactly, it is harder for others to accept their defeat and putting wrong accusation just to justify their weaknesses about those games.

[sokani]

Have you ever been in the situation of asking your friend (s) to go down with you on a P2P gambling just between you as friends?

I did P2P gambling in my secondary school days. I played mocking post with my classmates in the football field, I was really good at it, and I won most of the bets but that's how far I went. P2P gambling is very risky, especially if you're gambling behind close doors. I've heard some sad stories of gamblers injuring or taking the life of a fellow gambler over disagreement and we should try as much as possible to stay away from it.

Guess what, after all he ended up returning $10 to his friend.
So I ask, did the friend do well in returning $10 to his friend or the returned $10 was not enough?

The friend was more than kind to return $10 dollars to him. Gambling is a game of winning and loses, if he didn't want to lose, he shouldn't have gambled at the first place.