Friends engaging on P2P gambling insights grudges amongst themselves

[agustina2]

To me, in general, that seems wickedness of gambling between friends on a P2P because such friends are not worthy to be trusted considering the sentiments in playing to win.
I would say that is a daylight extortions amongst each others.

Just go with the flow. Later on, I'm sure both of your friends will soon make peace with each other.

It's normal to see and witness P2P gambling within a circle of friends. It also happened here in our place in several games like, card games (Lucky 9, Pusoy), basketball games (local games, NBA, FIBA, actual basketball game between us), billiards (per table, poker card games, straight, 9ball, 8ball) and other games.

To the point that will exchange fist because of mocking with each other, well that's a different story and you guys need to step in.

[Frankolala]

This is very funny, a gambler lost all his funds to gamble, and he is asking for compensation, on what, for losing. What assuming he was gambling in the casino will he tell them to give him part of his loss.

Why is this happening, because I could remember when I was in college, if we gamble and lost, the loser will always ask for compensation. The annoying thing is that after compensating the loser, he will tell you that he wants to continue the game with the money that you have him, and he might end up using that small amount to win back all his loss, and make profit. Then you that compensated him will look like you are not smart. What I do, is that after compensation, I stop playing.

[Findingnemo]

Gambling is gambling, win or lose one who involved must accept it and mocking part is just part of bully that associated with natural behaviour of that friends while the important thing is the one who lost seeks compensation in terms of what? Is that what he did when he lost money on a casino right? Then rules are rules and there is no place for sentiments in it.

Which is why I prefer it on sports betting sites to avoid issues on p2p betting. I am into p2p betting before for more than a decade. Many times I bet against my friends and there are really times that some of them are not willing to pay accordingly. It is really harder to collect winnings on p2p unless you only bet against people that are reliable.

Betting against another person is good and mostly it will be careful or skill based games and one who is better off winning it will make more wins. As you said in friendly bets some of them will not pay afterwards that's why it's important to collect the bet amount before you make bets to avoid conflicts and there are actual places where we can gamble should be preferred for smooth gambling experience.

[Strongkored]

Have you ever been in the situation of asking your friend (s) to go down with you on a P2P gambling just between you as friends?

This happens especially on the cards, Chess and the other skill-based gambling.
I came across friends fighting throwing words at each other one was expressing his disappointments at his other friend while the other was mocking at him.
It was discovered that the one mocking the other asked the other one to step on let them gamble on a P2P and on the process the one being mocked lost all his funds for the other guy. And he has been asking the guy that won the crown to return him return about 30% out of the $190 lost but the other guy told him that there is no return and no compensations in the gamble so if he must give him back some returns it would be based on his own will.

Guess what, after all he ended up returning $10 to his friend.
So I ask, did the friend do well in returning $10 to his friend or the returned $10 was not enough?

To me, in general, that seems wickedness of gambling between friends on a P2P because such friends are not worthy to be trusted considering the sentiments in playing to win.
I would say that is a daylight extortions amongst each others.

Playing cards games with my siblings during the holidays and also chess but this last game is not my favorite because I don't really like it.
Card games played with friends or close people will be fun if they have the same goal, namely to have fun, not because they want to make money or show skill in card games, and on the contrary, it will become an argument if the goal of fun changes and can even become hostility.

Another thing that can be obtained when playing P2P gambling is that we can communicate with each other and have fun, but unfortunately currently digitalization is changing many things, including gambling, but this type of P2P gambling is still often found in rural areas, which I saw when I was visiting someone in the village.

And regarding the case you mentioned, it is better to play only with very small money like I did with my siblings, and also make an agreement regarding maximum profits or other things so as not to damage friendships because they are feel unhappy with what happens in gambling.
However, if someone cannot accept losing, they should not be invited to play again because such people are not responsible gamblers and understand the risks involved in gambling.

[passwordnow]

You shouldn't gamble against your friends but you should gamble with them. I've done that and it's normal in our neighborhood when most of us are fans of specific sports or when there's the hype for that particular sport and it's making rounds on that moment. Well, with our neighborhood, there's no grudge for each other and if someone loses, we just poke at each other and tells that we're going to do better and it ends there. That's why if you can't take the heat of gambling against your friends, you shouldn't do it because you'll never know even if you are the kindest person and the friend of yours have something on his attitude, you'll have hard time to adjust but you befriended him while he's like that.
So, the same goes for the card games and it's also quite a norm to play with your friends but betting with money that you can't afford to lose, there's gotta be a problem that will develop soon with that. When you guys decided to gamble, gamble only with the money that no matter what happens, there will be no grudge with all of you. If it's better, do some promises or even contracts that if someone losses, no returning back of those lost money.

Yep, in order to make a lot friends, you need to become one of them or support them instead of against them. In business it's really important to have a lot relations, don't make enemies even though it's your competitor, try to collaboration with them.

In normal friendship, it's also important to have a lot relations, maybe they could help us in the future.

Ruining your relationship because of gambling, is really stupid IMO.

That's so true, I've seen a lot of relationships and friendships that have ended because of issues related to money. Loans, finances and even gambling. That's why if you value your relationship with that person and they asks you to gamble with them, you can still proceed but make sure that it's just a small amount that no grudge will be formed. Because if it's about big amounts of money, that's going to be a huge problem that both parties might regret in the future. You will never know if that friend of yours will be helpful or will ruin your life but regardless of that, a friend is a friend and if you value them and you've got a better understanding. You're the one to make things better and you won't let them ruin it just for the sake of having fun and money. If there's an option to just decline any of them trying to poke you into gambling against their money, you better just do the right thing of saying no.

[Sandra_hakeem]

To me, in general, that seems wickedness of gambling between friends on a P2P because such friends are not worthy to be trusted considering the sentiments in playing to win.

what do you mean "sentiments" -- These was an agreement, and in all, it's supposed to be fun and not some disagreement.. do you think the other guy doesn't know the rules in gambling? Would you safely assume that he'd agree to share back the winnings if he was the winner? If not, why should anything change? That has nothing to do with anyone's trustworthiness.

I would say that is a daylight extortions amongst each others.

Are you serious right now?  

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[uneng]

I came across friends fighting throwing words at each other one was expressing his disappointments at his other friend while the other was mocking at him.
It was discovered that the one mocking the other asked the other one to step on let them gamble on a P2P and on the process the one being mocked lost all his funds for the other guy. And he has been asking the guy that won the crown to return him return about 30% out of the $190 lost but the other guy told him that there is no return and no compensations in the gamble so if he must give him back some returns it would be based on his own will.

First of all, the gambler in loss shouldn't have listened to the mockery of his "friend". People don't have to accept challenges imposed by others, because they don't have to prove anything to people around. That was the first big mistake of him, and I hope he learns a lesson with this story in order to not act impulsively provoked by others in the future never again. The second mistake was to demand the money lost back. It was a bet, and he decided to risk his money. As consequence he lost it and should have gone away with empty pockets, but with his dignity intact.

Guess what, after all he ended up returning $10 to his friend.
So I ask, did the friend do well in returning $10 to his friend or the returned $10 was not enough?

Was the 10$ cashback another mockery of him towards his friend? Because that is how it sounds like...

To me, in general, that seems wickedness of gambling between friends on a P2P because such friends are not worthy to be trusted considering the sentiments in playing to win.
I would say that is a daylight extortions amongst each others.

If you spot a friend of yours isn't prepared to deal with losses as consequences of bets, then don't gamble against him. Choose carefully who are the friends you can gamble P2P. There must be one person or another to play P2P who will accept the defeat without further arguing and contentions.

[killerfrost]

It's about recognizing the inherent risks and making informed choices.  Both casinos and other businesses cater to different markets, but the potential for financial loss in gambling is undeniable.

The distinction you draw between casino gambling and a job is insightful.  Jobs offer a predictable income, while gambling involves significant risk.  Imagine working hard for a guaranteed paycheck versus relying on luck for potentially life-changing wins.

The security of a regular paycheck versus the volatility of gambling is a crucial point.  Casinos thrive on the possibility of players making mistakes, while an employee's income isn't contingent on perfect performance.  There's room for improvement and learning in a job, but a mistake in a casino can be financially catastrophic.

[GxSTxV]

This is why it is bad to gamble against people you know or people you're friends with because it might grow grudges and problems between them, taking this situation as a vivid example.
As for the person who lost, I think he just should've taken his loss and accepted it because he should've been aware of what he put himself into and should've known that losing is always an option while gambling. Some people would accept a bet then come whining about it later when they lose. This friend didn't accept his loss and put a bet he can't afford losing then was acting mad that his friend didn't want to give him back some of the money.
I hope that the person who lost would take this as a lesson for him to take wiser decisions next time and be aware of his gambling habits and especially bet with money he can afford losing.

[Agbamoni]

If my friend suggest and insisted we bet on p2p together i won't deny him. I will only tell him that if he loses no going back from the bet. Also, i would want a third party to be there to be a witness before we start the bet so that he would hold whatever we used in placing the bet in escrow. This is because i have seen a situation were two persons gambled without a third party and at the end of the day the one who lost refused to give the winner the money that was staked. This led to serious fight at the end.

Now back to the topic, I won't want to gamble p2p with my friend when the suggestion is coming from me, I can't bring up such a suggestion. Meanwhile if the suggestion is coming from my friend i would participate.

[Nwada001]

This is very funny, a gambler lost all his funds to gamble, and he is asking for compensation, on what, for losing. What assuming he was gambling in the casino will he tell them to give him part of his loss.

It's not as funny as we might think it is. One thing about gambling is that the way we react to it is based on individual control. There are people who lack that control, and they always end up losing it.
 
When they lose all they have to gamble with, that's when they will come to their senses. That's when they will realise what they could have used that money for. That's when they will now realise who they place bet with is their friend, and as such, he could have been considerate and be a little lenient by giving him back some of the money. 
 
So to me, it's not funny, as I have experienced a lot of such gambling behaviour among immature gamblers. I call them that because they are not ready for what comes after they lose.

[Smartvirus]

To me, in general, that seems wickedness of gambling between friends on a P2P because such friends are not worthy to be trusted considering the sentiments in playing to win.
I would say that is a daylight extortions amongst each others.

Well, that’s your take considering the situation at hand and with the fact that, these are supposedly friends.

Like the winner rightly said, refunds of any amount should be based on freewill and I expect the other party to the stakes to have an option on either to accept or not because, it doesn’t make much difference to have lost a whole lot and be tipped so little. Suck it up, go home and cry your eyes out on your pillow then, be at peace with what has happened.

So long as the game was played squarely and wins were realized without any form of cheating, you’re under no obligation for refunds. That’s gambling. Should the supposed loser had turned out ti be the winner, you never can tell what he would have done. Perhaps decided to enjoy the most of his winnings as a compensation for the mocking he has received.

[arimamib]

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First of all, the gambler in loss shouldn't have listened to the mockery of his "friend". People don't have to accept challenges imposed by others, because they don't have to prove anything to people around. That was the first big mistake of him, and I hope he learns a lesson with this story in order to not act impulsively provoked by others in the future never again. The second mistake was to demand the money lost back. It was a bet, and he decided to risk his money. As consequence he lost it and should have gone away with empty pockets, but with his dignity intact.

Gamblers need to maintain personal integrity and resist external pressures in the face of gambling losses. Gamblers should just take those mockeries as part of their days of gambling, shouldnt be a big deal. Succumbing to the mockery or challenges posed by others can often lead to impulsive and regrettable decisions. They just need to know their own boundaries and not feel compelled to prove themselves to others. Refusing to engage in reckless behavior driven by peer pressure is a sign of strength and self-awareness.

Gamblers must be prepared to accept the outcomes, whether positive or negative. Demanding the return of lost funds after a bet shows an inability to accept responsibility for one's actions. Embracing the consequences of decisions, even when they result in losses, is a must for personal growth and maturity. Each experience, even those marked by failure or loss, presents an opportunity for learning and growth. gamblers have just to reflect on their actions, identify areas for improvement, and strive to make better choices in the future.

[EluguHcman]

So I ask, did the friend do well in returning $10 to his friend or the returned $10 was not enough?

He do not want to lose then why did he gamble? Or let me say he do not want to lose 30% of the $190, then why did he gamble with the 30%. 30% of $190 is $57. He could have just gambled with $133 or lesser than that. If he won his friend, what tendency that he will even give the $10 back? No tendency. I will prefer not to gamble with a friend but if I did, I will not give him even 1 cent back.

You are right. I also think the guy got a generous friend in that of his friend who returned $10 out of $190 lost on the stake because it was strickly a gambling supposing to be that looser looses it all and the winner wins it all and just so, everyone would still stay unpanick and friendship continues.

If he was in the position to win, I doubt if he would have had that empathy to have to return up to the requested percentage to that his friend and with all to my observation, that was a payback day to him because that his friend told him that his own time would not be different.
Meaning to say when this winner formally lost on the stake with his friend, he only returned him with the same percentage that is to say the $10 returned was equal to the same percentage instead of this guy here requesting for a 30%.

Just as you sighted, if he had found the 30% more valuable than the rest of his lost, then he should not had afforded to have it stake on the game.

[Natsuu]

Returning only $10 out of a $190 loss doesn't seem fair or considerate especially between friends. While there's no strict rule on returning winnings in informal gambling, it's about basic decency and empathy. The friend who won could have shown more kindness by returning a more substantial portion of the money, considering the impact on their friend. It's a tough lesson about the risks of mixing friendship and gambling as it can easily lead to hurt feelings and resentment. In the end, it's important to prioritize the relationship over money and avoid situations that could strain friendships

[dothebeats]

There is this online game that we have been playing for a decade now and we sometimes gamble with each other for fun.

Most of the time, we just goof around and just test each other's skills. We never argued on who's the best or who's the worst. We bet to make things spicier and for us to have fun. If your friends hold grudges against you for winning against them, then perhaps they're not your friends and they're adding more emphasis to the money they may gain for you and not the camaraderie you've built over time.

If these are the type of people I will be hanging with, I'd rather be alone and gamble against randoms online. At least, they can hold their end of the stick.

[Betwrong]

Returning only $10 out of a $190 loss doesn't seem fair or considerate especially between friends. While there's no strict rule on returning winnings in informal gambling, it's about basic decency and empathy. The friend who won could have shown more kindness by returning a more substantial portion of the money, considering the impact on their friend. It's a tough lesson about the risks of mixing friendship and gambling as it can easily lead to hurt feelings and resentment. In the end, it's important to prioritize the relationship over money and avoid situations that could strain friendships

Right, it's better to never play games involving risk of losing money with your friends. I'd say, it's better to never play such games with anyone you know personally. And why should we do that when we have online gambling sites were we can have fun with gambling and never hurt anybody we know when we win big?

[348Judah]

If we look at the way gambling is, we will understand that it easily erupts in for quarrels and arguments among gamblers, especially when it comes to discussions about the particular sport kinds or games among gamblers, some people can argue their way out of any discussion regarding gambling and they also don't mind if such further leads to something else, but some have the understanding that such should be what their discussions about gambling resulted to.