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March 29, 2024, 09:22:32 PM
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Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

As far as I know in a provably fair game, the casino if it is reputable won't manipulate the result of the game.  They may make the odds to win a bit lower but I do not think they will manipulate the game directly like rigging the result of the game making the number with the lowest bet to win.

I believe that some games especially slots have this winning script result that can trigger randomly.

Going all in is very risky but if it hits, it will certainly give good rewards, most gambler who goes all in are those who get impatient result or those who thinks that they somehow get the pattern which oftentimes results in huge losses.  Just accept the lost @OP and learn from the lesson that in gambling, there is no sure hit until it hits.  This way, you won't regret and think of the casino negatively.

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March 29, 2024, 09:26:47 PM
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If you are playing games like slots, aviator, and crash landing where you can be allowed to play with a very small amount, you can multiply with every little spin and the rest of them, and the game will be playing in your favour.
 
Checking the outcome of the result, you will see yourself on the profit side, and with the small amount you are using to wager, you might not be satisfied with the result of the profit and will want to try something bigger, which you can go all in with with what you have in your account.
 
The result of the game the first time might be successful, which will give you more confidence to go back in, and the moment you do that again, that will come to the end of whatever you wager, and that shock from that can lead you to accuse the casino of result manipulation, which happens all the time.

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March 29, 2024, 09:30:29 PM
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This is always the reality with betting going all in on the games sometimes the pain that comes from losing all in a bet makes the gambler to think that the casino manipulate the game outcome but in reality you just happen to lose as usual
Since we already know the risk that comes along with gambling why then do some gamble with the mindset of winning there going all in on the bet with the whole of the balance which can trigger they bankruptcy of balance at a bet?

And that's why we always say that gambling can really affect our negatively specially if we are going to lose everything after going in. Most of us have been in that kind of situation, our decision making process is not that call, like in poker, when we snap call when we think that we have the best hand, but our emotions are biases and so the OP goes all in but the outcome was a loss.

Just tonight though, almost the same experience for me, but I have to move over and just take that lose and go to sleep. Otherwise it will just bother me all day as what I made that bad decision of going all in instead of just taking it in a stride and giving me a chance to comeback or make break even at least.

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March 29, 2024, 09:33:04 PM
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Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

Some casinos are just cheating their customers but well reputed casinos don't cheat as they know if they're cheating and they get caught, it can spoil the reputation of the casino and other gamblers won't want to use the casino again for gambling as they won't be able to trust the casino. Going all in isn't always advisable as you'll lose most of the times that you go all into a bet which is when you bet with your last amount of money that you have in your betting account or on you.

If we go all in and lose, we shouldn't blame the casino as it's not their fault unless they're cheating but it's always our fault as we think we're going to win when we go all in but we don't win as that's not how gambling works. It's always good we bet with small amount of money and always reserve money that you'll use to gamble again incase the current bet doesn't work in your favour and you'll have to gamble again.

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Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

You can blame the casino for your loss, in the end, you are responsible for your bets. I lost many "all-in" bets in my life, and if I can be honest I won many of them as well. Every coin has two sides, in many situations, things are not "black or white", and in a gambler's life, there are many ups and downs, but we can't generalize this matter, when it comes to all-ins sometimes we lose, but sometimes we win.

So I am not sure how old are you, but be prepared for many more "all-in loses" but I am sure that you will have a lot of wins as well. So when you share your stories, try to include both of them, all ups & downs.

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March 29, 2024, 09:56:58 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
Going all in bet is never been that recommended on the time that you've been dealing up with gambling because this is something a behavior that would really be causing up for you to have that kind of situation on which you might be messing up your entire life if you have done something such as this. You cant really just that make yourself having that kind of behavior towards gambling on where you would really be that becoming that impulsive just because you are really that expecting on something positive with it and this is where people do usually mess up their lives because of having that kind of all in kind of betting or simply
having those kind of regrets just because they've been able to make themselves believe that it would be making them be able to get that huge money or profits that they could be able to make.
When it comes to gambling then you should really be something realistic. There are really some moments though that you would really be having that kind of approach or impressions towards some certain bets
on which you are assuming that the next outcome or roll is something that you would really be able to be sure that it would come out. If you emotion would really be getting in line on what you do have in mind then you would really be just that basically be trying out to do on whats up into your mind then going all in will surely be done. Lucky for you if it turns out to be a win but if not then it would really be something that brings that kind of disappointment and regrets in the end of the line. This is why when you do gamble then i do prefer the most on having that slowly or having that longer duration even if it means that i would really be needing
to divide my bankroll to make certain number of bets rather than on making some all in thing.

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March 29, 2024, 10:03:44 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

I think almost everyone who has ever played Hi-Lo, once made the decision to go all-in, and was not lucky with that decision. It's quite natural that we would blame the House, because we think that they are the ones who made us lose that round. The House certainly has an algorithm that works in their favor, or with a simpler explanation, if many bettors choose Hi then it is very likely that the House will issue the next card with the Lower value.

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March 29, 2024, 10:08:26 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

I think almost everyone who has ever played Hi-Lo, once made the decision to go all-in, and was not lucky with that decision. It's quite natural that we would blame the House, because we think that they are the ones who made us lose that round. The House certainly has an algorithm that works in their favor, or with a simpler explanation, if many bettors choose Hi then it is very likely that the House will issue the next card with the Lower value.
Not all but majority is really that aware of this game on which we know that this is something that it is really something interesting but there are really times or moments that im not really that a fan off with these kind of games and would rather be focusing on sports betting but since we are talking about all in and losing the bet then there would really be no exemptions when it comes to this on which no matter how well you are on doing gambling and also you are really that dealing with pure luck based games then there's no way that you would really be able to make it sure that the next bet
would be a win or something that you have been expecting to come out. There are really moments or times that those urges do really come out in times like this on which it is really that something
very common to happen when dealing or playing gambling.
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March 29, 2024, 10:34:34 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

I think almost everyone who has ever played Hi-Lo, once made the decision to go all-in, and was not lucky with that decision. It's quite natural that we would blame the House, because we think that they are the ones who made us lose that round. The House certainly has an algorithm that works in their favor, or with a simpler explanation, if many bettors choose Hi then it is very likely that the House will issue the next card with the Lower value.

Yes especially that there are situations that we feel so lucky and think about either to win by putting all single betting and risk everything or just totally lose then feel sorry later on. This behavior is quiet natural for us people which gambling is part of our daily activity since there's something on us that been feel challenge on current things what we do and we want to get more big rewards with high risk we take.

Maybe what you said is right but we should choose to gamble on provably fair casino so that we can get equal chance to win rather than thinking being rugged by uncertain things that we don't want to happen or something questionable for us to occur.

That's why some feels like counting win lose record is important since for that they can determine on what will be the next card to show up.

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March 29, 2024, 10:50:19 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
Wow! so this feeling is actually felt by others too and the reason why I say this, is because that's exactly the way I feel everytime I decide to up my stake on a particular that have been going quite well for me but just because I want to have maybe the money doubled really fast, I would then decide to up my betting amount and for everytime I really tried it the end result is always against me but if I think of doing it without actually doing it the end result is goes the way I predicted but whenever you decide to play the results is something different.
Just accept the reality that in the end, gambling outcome will always be against us, thus favoring the casino house as it’s certain that the house has always an edge overs its players. Lucky are those who have made it to the top, winning a big amount after consecutive small winnings. But it’s very rare to experience this in gambling, what is certain is to see us more losing often most especially if we are trying to bet all in for quicker and bigger profits.

Everyone has experienced this. So always bet on the amount you can afford to lose, betting all in is never recommended from the start.

Yeah right,  most probably the outcome will be against you,  better to enjoy instead of being aggressive and make a Yolo bet, it hurts your finances especially if you are not ready or willing to let the amount go, chances  that after doing it and lose you'll tap more and continue to lose more money, the house understand your emotions very well and they will keep on enticing you, it's needed to have that good control to manage your possible losses.

It's by the fact that casinos is a business and not a charity they always have the advantages and they will keep managing to have that edge against the players.

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March 29, 2024, 11:11:53 PM
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Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
It’s not out of place that you tend to question the process when you’re at a loosing end, it just means you’re human. Supposing you were winning, am sure you would have had no reason to think differently.

The only time you hit it wrong was going all in. That and chasing your gambling losses have got some tight similarity. You always tend to try a recovery of all your gambling misfortune for that gambling session at a single get but, the reality is, the game remains both ways and you could still lose everything.
There are a lot of trusted casinos out here, I promote one in my signature, try it out for fairness but, ensure your gambling responsibly.

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Maybe what you said is right but we should choose to gamble on provably fair casino so that we can get equal chance to win rather than thinking being rugged by uncertain things that we don't want to happen or something questionable for us to occur.

That's why some feels like counting win lose record is important since for that they can determine on what will be the next card to show up.
How can you check that the casino is fair or not, because now many new casinos appear that are still not necessarily fair casinos.

Some casinos that may have been around for a long time and almost survived until now have a good reputation.
That could indicate that they are applying fairness to the system, although the algorithms created in the system are specifically for the casino's winnings and profits, but some big winners will always be there.

Seeing how credible each Online casino is quite important, and reading the casino's ToS to know what they apply to their services.

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March 29, 2024, 11:32:08 PM
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Yes especially that there are situations that we feel so lucky and think about either to win by putting all single betting and risk everything or just totally lose then feel sorry later on. This behavior is quiet natural for us people which gambling is part of our daily activity since there's something on us that been feel challenge on current things what we do and we want to get more big rewards with high risk we take.

Maybe what you said is right but we should choose to gamble on provably fair casino so that we can get equal chance to win rather than thinking being rugged by uncertain things that we don't want to happen or something questionable for us to occur.

That's why some feels like counting win lose record is important since for that they can determine on what will be the next card to show up.
Humans are naturally drawn to activities that offer the potential for high rewards, even if they entail significant risks. This propensity for risk-taking is deeply rooted in our psychology. When luck seems to be on our side, we may grapple with the decision of whether to seize the opportunity and go all-in or to exercise caution and avoid potential losses. This internal conflict reflects our innate desire for greater rewards with the fear of regretting our decisions later on.

Many people do tracking their win-loss records and identifying patterns to inform their future decisions. Gamblers attempt to predict the next card or in other forms of gambling, the perception of control over outcomes can influence behavior and decision-making. People can approach gambling with a clearer understanding of their motivations and make more informed choices by recognizing the role of luck, the allure of high stakes, and the quest for fairness.

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They dont have to rig the bets, the casino already has an advantage in their favor.  They require people to play and if they do they will profit, thats the basic requirement for a profitable operation.   If you find a place thats desperate and willing to risk their reputation and even the entire business if found out then sure its dangerous at that point but it shouldn't be the case that anywhere with customers is going to perform such a self defeating task.

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March 29, 2024, 11:49:43 PM
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Luck is really unpredictable, there are no relations with the pattern or strategy.
I agree.

You're in a guessing them and it's highly needed to be lucky to win with this kind of game. Knowing that you have a pattern that you believe is working and can be read by you.

If it's about being lucky, it's not really how it goes when luck doesn't hitting you with your bets. They're all unpredictable so as your fate with gambling so don't be too confident if you've got strategies that you believe they're working 100%.

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They dont have to rig the bets, the casino already has an advantage in their favor.  They require people to play and if they do they will profit, thats the basic requirement for a profitable operation.   If you find a place thats desperate and willing to risk their reputation and even the entire business if found out then sure its dangerous at that point but it shouldn't be the case that anywhere with customers is going to perform such a self defeating task.
They (casino) maybe need to cheat in order to continue to exist and survive in the gambling industry... even the probability mechanism on slot machines, in my opinion, so far does not rely on 100% luck alone, but there are other people who make it like merchandise with the appeal of fun. Yes, it's true that casinos can take money from betting between pvp... but for money from betting between dealer vs player, it's easier for them to commit fraud that we don't realize.

Sometimes we are given a win just to make us feel that today is a lucky day, even though some future casino bets arrange it as a losing period for gamblers.

That's why I never risk too much money gambling against the casino... but gambling against other players or sportbet might make a little more sense.
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March 30, 2024, 03:54:04 AM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

You know and understand that the bookmaker needs to win too, otherwise it wouldn't be open.  I don't believe it's manipulation, but you need to understand that going all in is stupid.

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March 30, 2024, 03:58:31 AM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
When a person faces a difficult situation, one of the most common reactions is to try to find someone to blame for what is happening to them, and in your case you thought about blaming the casino and even think that it could have been cheating you all along.

But unless you were playing at a shady casino, this is unlikely, you simply misjudged the situation and made a bet you could not afford, then the worst possible outcome came to happen and you need to accept responsibility for those losses, as you are the only one that is at fault here.

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As far as I know in a provably fair game, the casino if it is reputable won't manipulate the result of the game.  They may make the odds to win a bit lower but I do not think they will manipulate the game directly like rigging the result of the game making the number with the lowest bet to win.

especially for casinos that already have a gaming license, the possibility of them cheating the players is very low because they are regulated and supervised directly by the gaming commission. and even reputable casinos won't be so careless as to destroy their reputation by rigging games just to make money from their players. most likely it has to do with their algorithm, which is in their favor.

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Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
Starting to think that the casino is not fair, manipulate the bet, or knowing our bet pattern then change the result, these are the most common responses from gamblers who cant accept losses. What you need to have in your mind is exactly that losing chance is always bigger due to house edge favor to the house. Not only in such a luck based game but also in sports betting with low odds (under 1.1), losing chance is still there so you should never think that you will always win although your winning chance by math is big.

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