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April 09, 2024, 06:06:40 PM
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You are right, but it is not a fact that the beginner will follow these tips, because informational rewards do not bring as much fun as financial rewards. A beginner has to win once and he will immediately think that he can beat the system. Gambling works on the system of financial rewards is why we can see a huge number of gamblers around the world. Any newcomer must acquire his own experience in gambling otherwise he just does not understand the meaning of all these actions, because only after losing something you begin to really appreciate it.
Yes, that's a fact, especially as there are only two types of gamblers who are difficult to advise, namely gambling addicts and beginners, sometimes we can explain with lots of tips or advice but not all of them will be listened to and implemented by them, in fact most of them will ignore it, but for me it will never be a problem even if it is never listened to or ignored I am sure a handful of people will hear it and implement it. all gamblers come from beginners and we all understand that beginners will learn from their failures and experiences.

But there are also beginners who end up becoming gambling addicts just because they gamble beyond the limits they shouldn't, we may just be a third party or another party who is just trying to remind and advise beginners and gambling addicts not to play excessively because that factor causes them to lose a lot of money or the assets they have, the point is, whatever they are, at least we have all tried to make those who are willing to listen to advice and apply the correct tips to gamble responsibly and controlled, because gambling like that will not make gamblers addicted.  Grin
Or we can simply tell about that there are different type of people whom you could really be able to determine out whether to those who do accept advises or to those who arent. People do usually mess up their lives
just because they would really be pushing up on things on which its really that obviously that will really be leading into disaster later on if they cant really be able to handle themselves well.

Actually we cant really be able to totally tell them on what are the things that they should gonna do because even if you do make out some advise but into their minds they are really that wanting to play
then there's no way that you could really be able to stop them. They would really be only stopping on the time that they would be experiencing those shit situations and would really be making out such
regrets that they shouldnt have done that but well its already too late and the damage has already been done. So simply people wont stop until they wont really be able to experience hardship or unfortunate conditions.

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April 09, 2024, 09:00:05 PM
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Yes, the key to being able to avoid gambling addiction is to have a proper understanding of the negative side of gambling from the beginning of involvement in gambling because by having the right understanding, it will be the basis for your caution in treating gambling activities themselves. One of the things that can make you have an understanding before you get involved is to have a rational point of view and mindset at the beginning of your discovery of gambling, by identifying or researching the benefits or impacts of gambling itself which when you have managed to get this information then I am sure that you will not dare to act too carelessly or excessively in gambling.

While on the other hand lately I see more people who come without having a correct understanding of the concept of gambling, how it works to get a win and the adverse effects of gambling itself such as addiction, and I believe the reason is because they are too focused on the chances of winning, they think that gambling can give them a lot of wins so this mindset distracts their attention and thoughts from the risks and bad possibilities that exist in gambling.

On the other hand, I am sure that any gambling company will not want to include the bad effects of gambling because obviously their goal is to make a lot of profit from gamblers who always act excessively like those who have entered the addiction phase, because if the casino gives gamblers an announcement about the bad effects of gambling then obviously it can make the casino unable to achieve greater profits while the casino's goal is to achieve maximum revenue.

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April 09, 2024, 09:54:39 PM
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Yes, the possibility of winning in gambling depends on luck regardless of  the gambling strategies but that doesn't mean that using the a good strategy will not help you to win whether you play for fun or to make profit, it is actually difficult to play gambling in a relaxed manner unless you are gambling for fun and if you're gambling for fun, I don't think you will involve staking money because once you involve money, you will not be relaxed since you will be expectant to get victory which will steer up your mind and most times increases one's blood pressure.

The best thing to do is to gamble with an amount one can afford to lose in the case it will help to reduce the curiosity of the player and it will also help to reduce panic from the player when the expected results is not actualised.



Well, things always have to turn out for the better when a person understands what the casino is like and how a good plan can be carried out so that the person enjoys, has the opportunity to win and above all so that they do not become decapitalized, if they succeed. something like that So I think everything will be fine, however this has a lot to do with the degree of maturity that the person has regarding the game, sports betting and being aware of their money, for me the most important thing in a casino is money , it is the most important thing for me and it is the most important thing in a casino, I think that if we always have our money for the casino, where we are obviously willing to lose, it will avoid many problems in the future.

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April 10, 2024, 01:54:23 PM
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If newbies have the mindset of working out a process for themselves, I'm sure they will be better of than playing randomly and learning the hard way.


This is one of the things that one sometimes does as a beginner, developing certain techniques and certain tricks to win in a casino, what we don't know is that this is sometimes just luck, so our search for better things like winning for sure , that doesn't exist, the most likely thing is that if you don't want to lose then just play, that's what Guarantees us not losing money , the Challenge is still a risk, the things that have to be done for us to Emerge carry a great risk and this can produce investment, do many things like being aware of each strategy, and being clear about that is what makes us different, but every novice has many Insecurities that they do not yet know, self-control, risk management, money to lose They don't know much about all those things, and that's why they lose money.

Gambling will always depend on luck no matter what strategy we use. Although different people use gambling for different purposes, gambling behaves the same for everyone  However, if you enjoy gambling in a relaxed manner without getting excited, besides getting a lot of fun from gambling, you can suddenly win something big from here. so gambling should be used only casually and not seriously. then gambling will not bring any serious harm to anyone.
In my opinion, I believe that it is not so right to conclude that gambling is all about luck before one can win. It's true that some aspects of gambling will solely require luck, but certainly not all aspects. I can agree with that in sports betting, if you know your way around it having gathered the right information to blend them to make informed decisions, then you have done the work halfway. By this, you are not relying on luck alone but your effort as well which will be reflected in your skills and how good you can use what you know. What I can only advise is that we as gamblers should do our best and leave the rest. If it is the gambling aspect that requires our skills and strategies, we should endeavour to shape it adequately for the maximum benefits.

In addition, we need the right mindset towards gambling, it will help us a lot, and have the belief that gambling should not be necessarily engaged for money. Even if we gamble because of the money, we should not be desperate about it to avoid issues for ourselves. We should also ensure that our management about it is unquestionable, even as we are well-disciplined for responsible gambling. Above all, we should write at the back of our minds that gambling is not a do-or-die affair, we should be very careful when we lose much. Taking breaks at times to reset our psychology can't be a bad idea.

Well, in a casino game like roulette, slots, among others, for me it is luck that influences there, there is no other option, it may be that we have many strategies, but to try them all and make sure they work because you need to have a lot of money, and That's what sometimes you don't have and therefore we partly conclude that it's just luck, that we apply strategies, that we make many decisions, yes, it's normal, but ultimately it's luck that has the most influence. The activity of defensive betting is very different, one cannot say that it is just luck, because there is knowledge there that is research, and many other things, so it can be said that it is not just that, there is a lot of knowledge there to make decisions.


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April 10, 2024, 02:33:26 PM
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Being a responsible gambler is a very important thing to achieve in order to prevent certain odd things from happening to you. To become a responsible gambler one simply has to take full responsibility and make sure to avoid bad habits by setting certain boundaries and probably self based disciplinary rules. To keep your gambling activities on a responsible trail you need to be able to manage wins and losses. it is also very important that you are able to manage the amount of money you spend on stakes and also importantly the time you spend carrying out gambling activities.
Many gamblers are of the opinion that gambling is a fun based activity therefore as a responsible gambler you should be able to allocate the right and proper priority to such activity.

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April 10, 2024, 02:34:46 PM
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this is a hard thing to teach, specially nowadays
how can you help your children to stay out of drugs?
education, support, reading stories that teach them inner strenght
but at the end of the day there's part of the game that is completely single player and they'll need to judge and decide by themselves.

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April 10, 2024, 02:42:12 PM
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The reason why I'm not addicted to gambling is because even before I started to play gambling I already understand gambling and its addiction, and my understanding has helped me on how to follow up gambling. Sometimes I ask myself why do people get addicted to gambling, is it because they have no understanding or awareness about the addiction of gamble.

 I think majority of people who are addicted to gambling is because they do not understand gambling as beginners, the rules and the side effects of playing gambling excessively.

I think if gambling companies can help to giving beginners to understand gambling and addiction it will help and reduce the rate at which people get addicted o gambling, I mean good lesson for people to get understanding.  Or do gambling companies benefit from gamblers who are addicted, which the awareness of getting addicted can affect their business?.

           -    It is good for you that you have understood that excessive gambling does not really bring good results to gamblers who will become addicts in the future. As long as it is necessary, you should always gamble moderately.

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April 10, 2024, 02:46:46 PM
 #288

this is a hard thing to teach, specially nowadays
how can you help your children to stay out of drugs?
education, support, reading stories that teach them inner strenght
but at the end of the day there's part of the game that is completely single player and they'll need to judge and decide by themselves.

Yes, we do have our own will and we do have our own point of view plus with some mix of influence from other things outside on which  no matter how you would really be giving your best on guiding
them but still it would really be pointless once they would really be making out their own decisions and this is something that we cant really be able to stop. This is really something that
do really happen in real life, just like on what happened on our neighbor on where their parents is too strict but still ended up their children had lost their path and involved into addictions
which it isnt on gambling but in drugs which its really a disaster. This is why this proves out that self will and decisions would really be still that a huge factor.

We can give out some advises but doesnt mean that they would really be following it. They would really be making their own decisions and wont really be tending to listen
out with those advises.
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April 10, 2024, 03:04:28 PM
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Being a responsible gambler is a very important thing to achieve in order to prevent certain odd things from happening to you. To become a responsible gambler one simply has to take full responsibility and make sure to avoid bad habits by setting certain boundaries and probably self based disciplinary rules. To keep your gambling activities on a responsible trail you need to be able to manage wins and losses. it is also very important that you are able to manage the amount of money you spend on stakes and also importantly the time you spend carrying out gambling activities.
Many gamblers are of the opinion that gambling is a fun based activity therefore as a responsible gambler you should be able to allocate the right and proper priority to such activity.
I agree with you, we should also be able to become gamblers who are responsible for everything that happens from the actions that we purely do ourselves with the gambling we do. The purpose is clear as you said it is to avoid or prevent bad things that will happen as there have been many cases of the adverse effects of excessive or irresponsible gambling. It is true that the key to prevention lies with ourselves who must be able to set our own limits, but many gamblers they cannot set their limits and are not disciplined in gambling, so they often experience serious problems.
My advice for beginners, they should be able to see the bad impact cases that have happened a lot, with this thread it might help with all of us giving advice for them not to do excessive gambling. Allocating money that we can afford and are willing to lose is a must so that the gambling that is done can go well.

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April 10, 2024, 03:20:33 PM
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this is a hard thing to teach, specially nowadays
how can you help your children to stay out of drugs?
education, support, reading stories that teach them inner strenght
but at the end of the day there's part of the game that is completely single player and they'll need to judge and decide by themselves.


If the advice and warnings of parents really helped, we would not see so much gambling among young people, nor would we see such high rates of crime and drug abuse in many countries around the world.
Advice and warnings don't work as well as we would like them to because people always try to break prohibitions and each of us gains wisdom only through our own experience, whether it is about gambling, drugs or anything else. 

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April 10, 2024, 03:23:11 PM
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Being a responsible gambler is a very important thing to achieve in order to prevent certain odd things from happening to you. To become a responsible gambler one simply has to take full responsibility and make sure to avoid bad habits by setting certain boundaries and probably self based disciplinary rules. To keep your gambling activities on a responsible trail you need to be able to manage wins and losses. it is also very important that you are able to manage the amount of money you spend on stakes and also importantly the time you spend carrying out gambling activities.
Many gamblers are of the opinion that gambling is a fun based activity therefore as a responsible gambler you should be able to allocate the right and proper priority to such activity.
I agree with you, we should also be able to become gamblers who are responsible for everything that happens from the actions that we purely do ourselves with the gambling we do. The purpose is clear as you said it is to avoid or prevent bad things that will happen as there have been many cases of the adverse effects of excessive or irresponsible gambling. It is true that the key to prevention lies with ourselves who must be able to set our own limits, but many gamblers they cannot set their limits and are not disciplined in gambling, so they often experience serious problems.
My advice for beginners, they should be able to see the bad impact cases that have happened a lot, with this thread it might help with all of us giving advice for them not to do excessive gambling. Allocating money that we can afford and are willing to lose is a must so that the gambling that is done can go well.



Well said.
Everyone lives by there decisions consciously or subconsciously which feels there activity. So we can profer possible solutions and our past experience is left for the beginner to decide to implement   his guidelines to safeguard him and also learn from people experience.

The truth is them having control over there expectations, and accept the fact of uncertainty in gambling. Thus helping them discipline and gambling with Moderation, and not see gambling as means of survival.
Having total control over there gambling habits should be prioritize as this reduces Addiction.

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April 10, 2024, 05:14:53 PM
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Like in the OP's case, I already knew the basics of gambling before engaging in these activities, which is key to make informed and reasonable decisions. Some people simply thinks that gambling is a good way of getting easy money, but the truth is that the design of the games and the lack of self-control when it comes to our feelings and emotions makes it even harder not only to win but also don't lose your initial capital.

The best way to help newcomers, IMO, is sharing valuable information about how gambling works in reality and what they can expect from it. If they manage the expectations properly, i think that it is more difficult for them to fall in an addiction.
I doubt that beginners, before starting to gamble, will ask anyone for advice on how dangerous it is or how profitable it is. Nobody even wants to know about it, and then everyone gets experience and finds out that it is impossible to beat the casino. And even if someone collects enough information before playing to know their chances of winning, there will be those who want to check everything from their own experience.
Most beginners are scared and curious. They will ask advice on how to avoid the dangers but there are also who only care about the profit and they will ask strategies on how to maximize their potential.

Some experienced people can think they already figured out a way on how to beat the casino but many realized that it's not possible to do it, hopefully I'm the one belonging to them. Even though we can seek information from someone else, we will still need to apply them and along it will allow us to discover more things. Asking is not wrong as long as we are not picky and rush only on the good part but I understand that some are shy and prideful to go on their own.

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April 10, 2024, 06:06:13 PM
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this is a hard thing to teach, specially nowadays
how can you help your children to stay out of drugs?
education, support, reading stories that teach them inner strenght
but at the end of the day there's part of the game that is completely single player and they'll need to judge and decide by themselves.


If the advice and warnings of parents really helped, we would not see so much gambling among young people, nor would we see such high rates of crime and drug abuse in many countries around the world.
Advice and warnings don't work as well as we would like them to because people always try to break prohibitions and each of us gains wisdom only through our own experience, whether it is about gambling, drugs or anything else. 

I will tell you one of the reasons why parental advice has no effect at all, because don't most people or young people always hide their bad habits such as gambling or drug consumption? Sure, so what this means is that it is not that parental advice or family members are not helpful at all in overcoming this problem but it is that usually most parents do not know that their children are involved in bad habits which in turn makes young people who are involved in gambling or drug consumption even more involved.

So the reason why the population of gamblers and drug addicts is increasing is because most of the parents do not know about their children's bad habits. On the other hand, as we know that gambling and drugs have a bad point of view in the eyes of society and there is also a risk that when someone is caught having this habit, the authorities will usually arrest them so this is the reason why most people prefer to keep it a secret, especially from family members including their own parents.

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April 11, 2024, 01:26:33 AM
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I agree with you, we should also be able to become gamblers who are responsible for everything that happens from the actions that we purely do ourselves with the gambling we do. The purpose is clear as you said it is to avoid or prevent bad things that will happen as there have been many cases of the adverse effects of excessive or irresponsible gambling. It is true that the key to prevention lies with ourselves who must be able to set our own limits, but many gamblers they cannot set their limits and are not disciplined in gambling, so they often experience serious problems.
My advice for beginners, they should be able to see the bad impact cases that have happened a lot, with this thread it might help with all of us giving advice for them not to do excessive gambling. Allocating money that we can afford and are willing to lose is a must so that the gambling that is done can go well.



Well said.
Everyone lives by there decisions consciously or subconsciously which feels there activity. So we can profer possible solutions and our past experience is left for the beginner to decide to implement   his guidelines to safeguard him and also learn from people experience.

The truth is them having control over there expectations, and accept the fact of uncertainty in gambling. Thus helping them discipline and gambling with Moderation, and not see gambling as means of survival.
Having total control over there gambling habits should be prioritize as this reduces Addiction.
In my opinion, if it is to be used as a lesson, just looking at the many cases that have occurred is enough, don't think we have to feel big losses such as addiction losing a lot of money, or other bad effects, with the many cases that have occurred, it can be used as a lesson for us not to do the same thing as other people who have shared their bad experiences about gambling addiction or the bad effects of addiction. I also think it is ridiculous that beginners want to feel the bad effects of gambling in order to stay away from gambling or are not sure about the many cases that have occurred so they have the thought of wanting to feel the bad effects.
 It is not recommended to make gambling as a means of survival by earning income,  for beginners it is hoped that gambling can be done by setting limits, as you said with discipline in order to prevent excessive gambling.

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April 11, 2024, 04:19:52 AM
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Like in the OP's case, I already knew the basics of gambling before engaging in these activities, which is key to make informed and reasonable decisions. Some people simply thinks that gambling is a good way of getting easy money, but the truth is that the design of the games and the lack of self-control when it comes to our feelings and emotions makes it even harder not only to win but also don't lose your initial capital.

The best way to help newcomers, IMO, is sharing valuable information about how gambling works in reality and what they can expect from it. If they manage the expectations properly, i think that it is more difficult for them to fall in an addiction.
I doubt that beginners, before starting to gamble, will ask anyone for advice on how dangerous it is or how profitable it is. Nobody even wants to know about it, and then everyone gets experience and finds out that it is impossible to beat the casino. And even if someone collects enough information before playing to know their chances of winning, there will be those who want to check everything from their own experience.
Most beginners are scared and curious. They will ask advice on how to avoid the dangers but there are also who only care about the profit and they will ask strategies on how to maximize their potential.

Some experienced people can think they already figured out a way on how to beat the casino but many realized that it's not possible to do it, hopefully I'm the one belonging to them. Even though we can seek information from someone else, we will still need to apply them and along it will allow us to discover more things. Asking is not wrong as long as we are not picky and rush only on the good part but I understand that some are shy and prideful to go on their own.
Depends on a certain person when it comes to approach on things because there are ones who are delusional and there are ones who are really that realistic and sensible in towards their actions
and there are ones who do live in a dream and assuming that they could really be able to make money without having any issues on which on the time that they would really be able to experience
the worst things then this is where they would really be making those kind of realizations on which we know that once they would really be able to lose money then it would really be something
that make them realize that it was never been ideal for them to have that kind of thinking towards it.

Getting addicted is something that likely that would really be happening on you on which on the time that you would really be making up yourself on having such condition. You would
really be eventually making yourself having that delusional approach which it would really be leading into disaster later on.

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April 11, 2024, 04:31:35 AM
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In my opinion, if it is to be used as a lesson, just looking at the many cases that have occurred is enough, don't think we have to feel big losses such as addiction losing a lot of money, or other bad effects, with the many cases that have occurred, it can be used as a lesson for us not to do the same thing as other people who have shared their bad experiences about gambling addiction or the bad effects of addiction. I also think it is ridiculous that beginners want to feel the bad effects of gambling in order to stay away from gambling or are not sure about the many cases that have occurred so they have the thought of wanting to feel the bad effects.
 It is not recommended to make gambling as a means of survival by earning income,  for beginners it is hoped that gambling can be done by setting limits, as you said with discipline in order to prevent excessive gambling.
Yes, we might be able to look at other people's experiences in gambling addiction as a lesson for us. but sometimes something that doesn't happen to us doesn't really matter to us. Honestly, no one wants to be ruined by a gambling addiction. We have seen many t-shirts but still sometimes we make the same mistakes that other people do.
There are more cases of those who finally realize that they are addicted after they experience their own losses. not from other people's experiences.

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When someone starts using something new he has a lot of focus on that thing and then he loves to enjoy it for a long time.  So for those who start gambling for the first time, gambling is a lot of fun and they don't care about the loss at that time.  But gradually when they become addicted to gambling and lose a lot of money then they care about the loss but then they can't quit gambling for various reasons.  First they think of recovering previous losses and then they think of profits at the same time.  This greed does not allow them to give up gambling

That's right, to be precise, he still has an extraordinary curiosity about new things that come into his life, then he will enter slowly following the flow in his heart and mind, then if he feels comfortable then he will continue and that is a normal thing that happens to novice gambler.
Yes, if he cannot really understand real gambling then he will experience extraordinary greed and this must always be taken into account by novice gamblers because he may not yet be able to accept the impact of the risks of gambling.

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April 11, 2024, 08:08:24 AM
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If we are talking about someone who has never gambled before, we can't do anything to stop them from trying, because we can't be with them 7/24 so if they do happen to come across gambling and want to give it a shot, they can go 40+ years in life without ever gambling and then give it a shot one day and become an addict eventually. We heard stories about people like that from all over the world, it is not a new thing and it will never be a new thing.

What we need to arrange however, would be something that could become a lot bigger, something that could take sometime, which is why we should be careful about it. If they do start, and they are just newbies at gambling, that's when we can get in and try to stop them from going any further.

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April 11, 2024, 08:39:24 AM
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Yes, we might be able to look at other people's experiences in gambling addiction as a lesson for us. but sometimes something that doesn't happen to us doesn't really matter to us. Honestly, no one wants to be ruined by a gambling addiction. We have seen many t-shirts but still sometimes we make the same mistakes that other people do.
There are more cases of those who finally realize that they are addicted after they experience their own losses. not from other people's experiences.

Newbies just starting to be gambling make the same mistakes that other have made in the past and got ruined by gambling as they didn't learn from the mistake others before them that are gamblers have made. When a new gambler doesn't what to take the advice from gamblers that have the experience due to gambling many years before them, they'll also make the same mistakes and get addicted to gambling which will make them to be constantly losing money.

There's nothing wrong to learn from other individuals and make yourself to be protected from addiction. Helping newbies to not get addicted will depend on the newbies as not all newbies want to be taught, they think they can do everything on their own without the help of others. Some of them get successful but it takes them time as they keep making mistakes that they could have known about and avoided.

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April 11, 2024, 04:22:38 PM
 #300

this is a hard thing to teach, specially nowadays
how can you help your children to stay out of drugs?
education, support, reading stories that teach them inner strenght
but at the end of the day there's part of the game that is completely single player and they'll need to judge and decide by themselves.

Yes, we do have our own will and we do have our own point of view plus with some mix of influence from other things outside on which  no matter how you would really be giving your best on guiding
them but still it would really be pointless once they would really be making out their own decisions and this is something that we cant really be able to stop. This is really something that
do really happen in real life, just like on what happened on our neighbor on where their parents is too strict but still ended up their children had lost their path and involved into addictions
which it isnt on gambling but in drugs which its really a disaster. This is why this proves out that self will and decisions would really be still that a huge factor.

We can give out some advises but doesnt mean that they would really be following it. They would really be making their own decisions and wont really be tending to listen
out with those advises.

there's also the interesting fact that life is a mess, it's pure chaos, life is not like a lasagna, life is spaghetti.
it's really pretentious to think that our path will be the best for everyone
our path is the best for us but each person will find their way to live, it can be completely different than our way and that's ok.

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