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April 29, 2024, 05:23:20 PM
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I don't actually see it a wrong way because they are promoting gambling as an affiliate by introducing a certain platform to the people. if we are a gambler, we will understand that it's just purely business, and since we love to gamble, we should not see gambling as a bad thing. They can promote what they want, so it's really up to the gamblers if they will do some research to understand that gambling is not only fun but it's also risky at the same time, but sad things will only happen to us if we are not responsible.

In short, "responsible gambling" should be promoted.

The problem is that streamers are not promoting even close to responsible gaming, but quite the opposite. The casino gives them fake money and during the stream they lose (sometimes they win, of course, but very rarely) millions. They do it so easily that it is obvious to me that this is fake money. And yes, I noticed that now (apparently due to problems with promotion through other channels) a huge number of gambling projects have entered the streaming sphere, but I cannot say that at least half of them operate adequately.

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April 29, 2024, 07:51:15 PM
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What I think is that, since gambling is not illegal in most countries, i don't think those influencers are doing the wrong thing, they would only be wrong if they mislead individuals blindly  or say things that would lead them to become addictive gamblers, but in a case where they're not an just influencing a gambling platform with their social media page then I don't see anything bad in that.

 Maybe the OP has made a wrong decision from an influencers predictions or lost some money through it that's why he feel pained but then he should understand that those influencers most times don't care if you're making the wrong decisions or not so far they're getting paid by the platform they're influencing, moreover it's left for you as an individual to decide to listen to them or follow them blindly.
In my opinion there is a case to be made that the majority of the influencers are indeed misleading their viewers with their content, and this is because we know the majority of them are either gambling with play money or doing so with money given by the casino, so they are not at risk of losing a single dollar with their actions, but by promoting their big wins, that will never be paid off, and by hiding the fact they are not using real money, they are deceiving their viewers, which will use their income to gamble and suffer real losses.

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April 30, 2024, 10:35:10 AM
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It is actually not a bad idea if the casino sites using individuals for such marketing skills but it is worth sanctioning with terms and conditions to be applied so that the influencer doesn't have to inspire or invoke some chronic addictions on the audience where they can be negatively affected.

I don't see how the casino or the influencer/streamer himself could use terms and conditions for their viewers not to bet addicted to gambling or not to fall into problem gambling. If the job of the influencer is to promote and advertise a casino and the casino's objective is to attract people to gamble, in the end is up to the new gambler/newbie to be aware of his decisions and money management. Though, unfortunately, in many occasions the newbies do not identify what gambling is about (entertainment) and assume they could profit out of it. They end up losing some money and there is when they need to whether realize gambling is not profitable for most of gamblers or continue to chase losses.


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May 01, 2024, 08:26:03 PM
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We as the audience needs to be wise when we watch any videos from the influencers and make sure that the video we watch is not gives a bad effect to us.

It is very true, when we see influencers , sometimes they can show us many fantasies, and some people who have tried to imitate them end up very Badly , here with Influencers, casinos, casino gamblers, this is very delicate and I go out It Cannot lead to Any type of madness, because an influencer can have so much voice in the masses that he can achieve whatever he wants, and it is because of the emotions he makes people Feel, this is nothing new, they are Able to put to anyone on a platform, and do what they say, that is the power of an influencer, but this is legal until the Moment they Decide to be honest, and then if they sell themselves to Any oasis, they are a scam project , I think that even there goes its success.

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May 15, 2024, 02:27:35 AM
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We as the audience needs to be wise when we watch any videos from the influencers and make sure that the video we watch is not gives a bad effect to us.

It is very true, when we see influencers , sometimes they can show us many fantasies, and some people who have tried to imitate them end up very Badly , here with Influencers, casinos, casino gamblers, this is very delicate and I go out It Cannot lead to Any type of madness, because an influencer can have so much voice in the masses that he can achieve whatever he wants, and it is because of the emotions he makes people Feel, this is nothing new, they are Able to put to anyone on a platform, and do what they say, that is the power of an influencer, but this is legal until the Moment they Decide to be honest, and then if they sell themselves to Any oasis, they are a scam project , I think that even there goes its success.

That's really the role of an influencer, they should be able to encourage people to do what they are doing, it's just that sometimes what they promote or show to the audience is not good, when it comes to influencers, I believe that they should only teach and show people a positive influence, not that they will encourage in a bad way but they will make it look good using their communication and advertising skills. They can really attract a lot of people because they are already known and the channel they use on social media is already wide.



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May 15, 2024, 02:58:51 AM
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I don't actually see it a wrong way because they are promoting gambling as an affiliate by introducing a certain platform to the people. if we are a gambler, we will understand that it's just purely business, and since we love to gamble, we should not see gambling as a bad thing. They can promote what they want, so it's really up to the gamblers if they will do some research to understand that gambling is not only fun but it's also risky at the same time, but sad things will only happen to us if we are not responsible.

In short, "responsible gambling" should be promoted.
The problem is that streamers are not promoting even close to responsible gaming, but quite the opposite. The casino gives them fake money and during the stream they lose (sometimes they win, of course, but very rarely) millions. They do it so easily that it is obvious to me that this is fake money. And yes, I noticed that now (apparently due to problems with promotion through other channels) a huge number of gambling projects have entered the streaming sphere, but I cannot say that at least half of them operate adequately.
That right, I also have the same opinion where most casinos will provide facilities for streamers to change accounts on the gambling site, such as demo account in which certain amount of money has been provided, they will not lose their personal money.
Things like this can be found lot not only in crypto casinos but also local fiat-based gambling sites, in the country I live in there are lot of local site streamers and those who have been caught have made confessions like that because in my country gambling is prohibited.
But everything is done for certain amount of profit, the streamers get paid and they also share referrals which from each user with these referrals will provide additional profits for the streamers.

Just imagine them gambling in really crazy way, betting as they like and with quite large balances, if this was personal money I sure they wouldn't get decent profit from the losses they experienced.
But in reality it works well and most gambling sites can continue to run one of these promotional methods with great success.

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May 15, 2024, 04:16:04 AM
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I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money.

I don't think that they are selling their dignity but more because they were originally gamblers and also had the ability to stream so they developed this advantage to gain profits by becoming gambler streamers, and rather than blaming them I think more about protecting myself and my own family from content like that, by providing an understanding that what is seen is not always true, and that is actually what we often see in this online world, many of which are fake

And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.
Many have discussed it and it's not theory but reality, that streamers use money from the casino, not their own money, that's why you won't see streamers gambling with small bets (at least that's what I sawat some video footage of streamers winning) so when they can achieving a big win would be fantastic in value and many people would be very interested, trying the same thing the streamer did.
I've seen streamers who use fun mode because looking at the balance which I think doesn't make sense for my local fiat value, and that's maybe he's not a streamer who is employed by a casino and fully expects someone to play via his referral link,

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May 15, 2024, 07:50:25 AM
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I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money.

I don't think that they are selling their dignity but more because they were originally gamblers and also had the ability to stream so they developed this advantage to gain profits by becoming gambler streamers, and rather than blaming them I think more about protecting myself and my own family from content like that, by providing an understanding that what is seen is not always true, and that is actually what we often see in this online world, many of which are fake

That is exactly what we should do because we are responsible for ourselves. If we blame streamers because there are many people attracted to gamble then getting addicted, it means that we will always try to find other parties to be blamed when we are getting problem in other things while in fact it is our own mistake. It is even possible that we will blame the existence of Internet later lmao. Protect ourselves and our families first in order to avoid the possible negative effects from anything we can watch in the internet, it is wiser than blaming the ones that we watch in the internet.


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Not to blame the streamers here. The streamers are doing these hardwork to make some good money for themselves and for their families. Hence if the gambling sites provide them huge money to promote, why will they deny it? No one can be blamed here according to me. The gambling sites are doing their work, and streamers are doing sponsorships from them. If you want a good experience to watch streams, then better avoid the streamer whom you don’t like promoting these stuffs.

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It is very true, when we see influencers , sometimes they can show us many fantasies, and some people who have tried to imitate them end up very Badly , here with Influencers, casinos, casino gamblers, this is very delicate and I go out It Cannot lead to Any type of madness, because an influencer can have so much voice in the masses that he can achieve whatever he wants, and it is because of the emotions he makes people Feel, this is nothing new, they are Able to put to anyone on a platform, and do what they say, that is the power of an influencer, but this is legal until the Moment they Decide to be honest, and then if they sell themselves to Any oasis, they are a scam project , I think that even there goes its success.
That's really the role of an influencer, they should be able to encourage people to do what they are doing, it's just that sometimes what they promote or show to the audience is not good, when it comes to influencers, I believe that they should only teach and show people a positive influence, not that they will encourage in a bad way but they will make it look good using their communication and advertising skills. They can really attract a lot of people because they are already known and the channel they use on social media is already wide.
It depends on someone's nature in general whether they will care about their audience or not when they decide to promote something that might be harmful to them. If someone has a nature where they only care for themselves and money, they wouldn't care about the audience getting themselves into trouble for what they are promoting because they are getting paid for it, but if it's someone with a good nature, they wouldn't promote such things knowing that a lot of people watching them might get negatively affected by this.

We as the audience need to make sure we are only following influencers who are good and promote only good and positive things through their channels, and we should be mature enough to understand what is right and what is wrong for us so that we can make the best decisions for ourselves.

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May 15, 2024, 12:00:33 PM
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It is very true, when we see influencers , sometimes they can show us many fantasies, and some people who have tried to imitate them end up very Badly , here with Influencers, casinos, casino gamblers, this is very delicate and I go out It Cannot lead to Any type of madness, because an influencer can have so much voice in the masses that he can achieve whatever he wants, and it is because of the emotions he makes people Feel, this is nothing new, they are Able to put to anyone on a platform, and do what they say, that is the power of an influencer, but this is legal until the Moment they Decide to be honest, and then if they sell themselves to Any oasis, they are a scam project , I think that even there goes its success.
Those influencer only search for the followers and not many of them will thinks or cares to their followers. If they already have many followers, they will focus with launch their videos and tells their followers that they have a new videos. They will follows the trends around them and makes many new videos to promote their channels and gets more followers. That's why we must be careful to those who doesn't wants to cares to their followers and we don't have to subscribe to those influencers. They can attracts their followers to follows what they do because they knows that they have many followers that will do what they say. If we can be careful from those influencers, we will not see something harms us because we always stay aware with that things and always take care of ourselves.

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In my opinion there is a case to be made that the majority of the influencers are indeed misleading their viewers with their content, and this is because we know the majority of them are either gambling with play money or doing so with money given by the casino, so they are not at risk of losing a single dollar with their actions, but by promoting their big wins, that will never be paid off, and by hiding the fact they are not using real money, they are deceiving their viewers, which will use their income to gamble and suffer real losses.
with those influencers who definitely promote the gambling they do, it's possible that they actually work together with gambling companies, with those influencers who gamble in large amounts, in my opinion, that proves that they actually collaborate with gambling companies, also with the gambling they do. that can make them win easily, that's the goal to attract lots of people and make them addicted to gambling. However, it is not surprising that many people are interested, because the lure of victory that is easy to obtain is a strong attraction too.

Sometimes I think that it doesn't seem like they are gambling using their personal money, because the amounts are so large. Even though there are people who can gamble with large amounts of bets, I think those who have made a lot of money are unlikely to gamble just to make money too, that's unlikely.

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In my opinion there is a case to be made that the majority of the influencers are indeed misleading their viewers with their content, and this is because we know the majority of them are either gambling with play money or doing so with money given by the casino, so they are not at risk of losing a single dollar with their actions, but by promoting their big wins, that will never be paid off, and by hiding the fact they are not using real money, they are deceiving their viewers, which will use their income to gamble and suffer real losses.
with those influencers who definitely promote the gambling they do, it's possible that they actually work together with gambling companies, with those influencers who gamble in large amounts, in my opinion, that proves that they actually collaborate with gambling companies, also with the gambling they do. that can make them win easily, that's the goal to attract lots of people and make them addicted to gambling. However, it is not surprising that many people are interested, because the lure of victory that is easy to obtain is a strong attraction too.

Sometimes I think that it doesn't seem like they are gambling using their personal money, because the amounts are so large. Even though there are people who can gamble with large amounts of bets, I think those who have made a lot of money are unlikely to gamble just to make money too, that's unlikely.
We dont precisely be able to know on what are their agreements whether there would really be some sort of manipulative approach or tweaks that makes those kind of streams to be looking like a winner most of the time on which some people would really be that skeptical on how they do often hitting up those huge multipliers specially on slot gaming streams on which it is really that looking too good to be true if you are really that someone whose really that get used to slot games. We do know that it would really be just that depending on how lucky you are when dealing up with slots but there are really those moments or conditions on which you would really be having those thoughts that it is really just that unusual on how these streamers that winning up the game, as if it is really that too good to be true, eh?

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May 15, 2024, 11:06:17 PM
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What I think is that, since gambling is not illegal in most countries, i don't think those influencers are doing the wrong thing, they would only be wrong if they mislead individuals blindly  or say things that would lead them to become addictive gamblers, but in a case where they're not an just influencing a gambling platform with their social media page then I don't see anything bad in that.

 Maybe the OP has made a wrong decision from an influencers predictions or lost some money through it that's why he feel pained but then he should understand that those influencers most times don't care if you're making the wrong decisions or not so far they're getting paid by the platform they're influencing, moreover it's left for you as an individual to decide to listen to them or follow them blindly.
In my opinion there is a case to be made that the majority of the influencers are indeed misleading their viewers with their content, and this is because we know the majority of them are either gambling with play money or doing so with money given by the casino, so they are not at risk of losing a single dollar with their actions, but by promoting their big wins, that will never be paid off, and by hiding the fact they are not using real money, they are deceiving their viewers, which will use their income to gamble and suffer real losses.
Why wouldn't majority of the viewer keep getting misleaded? Since we want to make fast money and the only place we could go is to online to check and follow influencers that are looking for money for themselves. We need to be wise and make sure we don't become so ignorant of what in happening im the world were so many influencers could go extra miles just to make money from their followers. We need to always make decisions for ourselves not trying to make money by all means we can always seek for help around us. Influencers are no good choice for us and we need to make sure we follow the right path.

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May 15, 2024, 11:19:12 PM
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In my opinion there is a case to be made that the majority of the influencers are indeed misleading their viewers with their content, and this is because we know the majority of them are either gambling with play money or doing so with money given by the casino, so they are not at risk of losing a single dollar with their actions, but by promoting their big wins, that will never be paid off, and by hiding the fact they are not using real money, they are deceiving their viewers, which will use their income to gamble and suffer real losses.
with those influencers who definitely promote the gambling they do, it's possible that they actually work together with gambling companies, with those influencers who gamble in large amounts, in my opinion, that proves that they actually collaborate with gambling companies, also with the gambling they do. that can make them win easily, that's the goal to attract lots of people and make them addicted to gambling. However, it is not surprising that many people are interested, because the lure of victory that is easy to obtain is a strong attraction too.

Sometimes I think that it doesn't seem like they are gambling using their personal money, because the amounts are so large. Even though there are people who can gamble with large amounts of bets, I think those who have made a lot of money are unlikely to gamble just to make money too, that's unlikely.
We dont precisely be able to know on what are their agreements whether there would really be some sort of manipulative approach or tweaks that makes those kind of streams to be looking like a winner most of the time on which some people would really be that skeptical on how they do often hitting up those huge multipliers specially on slot gaming streams on which it is really that looking too good to be true if you are really that someone whose really that get used to slot games. We do know that it would really be just that depending on how lucky you are when dealing up with slots but there are really those moments or conditions on which you would really be having those thoughts that it is really just that unusual on how these streamers that winning up the game, as if it is really that too good to be true, eh?

I agree to that,  we don't know what's behind the deal especially those kinds of unusual outcomes that we've seen with those streamers who's promoting the casino as you know inside you that only luck will  help in real gaming sessions but seeing it with streamers hitting long winning streaks as it's so easy to them to keep taking money out from the house that's something that you'll doubt that's really happening,  though we can't deny it  that there are gamblers who's been allured by this kind of promotions and hopeful that they'll also experience that same outcome.

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May 16, 2024, 04:07:16 AM
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What I think is that, since gambling is not illegal in most countries, i don't think those influencers are doing the wrong thing, they would only be wrong if they mislead individuals blindly  or say things that would lead them to become addictive gamblers, but in a case where they're not an just influencing a gambling platform with their social media page then I don't see anything bad in that.

 Maybe the OP has made a wrong decision from an influencers predictions or lost some money through it that's why he feel pained but then he should understand that those influencers most times don't care if you're making the wrong decisions or not so far they're getting paid by the platform they're influencing, moreover it's left for you as an individual to decide to listen to them or follow them blindly.
In my opinion there is a case to be made that the majority of the influencers are indeed misleading their viewers with their content, and this is because we know the majority of them are either gambling with play money or doing so with money given by the casino, so they are not at risk of losing a single dollar with their actions, but by promoting their big wins, that will never be paid off, and by hiding the fact they are not using real money, they are deceiving their viewers, which will use their income to gamble and suffer real losses.
Influencers use them because they have a lot of money because rich people don't care about anything and the risk of losing doesn't affect them. Social media creates new techniques to deceive customers thus by showing the lure of victory they are attracted and then thrown into harm. It is not right to believe in these advertisements steamers often advertise these kinds of wins, with money from rich people. Better to do your own research than to watch social media hype.

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May 16, 2024, 08:26:04 PM
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We as the audience needs to be wise when we watch any videos from the influencers and make sure that the video we watch is not gives a bad effect to us.

It is very true, when we see influencers , sometimes they can show us many fantasies, and some people who have tried to imitate them end up very Badly , here with Influencers, casinos, casino gamblers, this is very delicate and I go out It Cannot lead to Any type of madness, because an influencer can have so much voice in the masses that he can achieve whatever he wants, and it is because of the emotions he makes people Feel, this is nothing new, they are Able to put to anyone on a platform, and do what they say, that is the power of an influencer, but this is legal until the Moment they Decide to be honest, and then if they sell themselves to Any oasis, they are a scam project , I think that even there goes its success.

That's really the role of an influencer, they should be able to encourage people to do what they are doing, it's just that sometimes what they promote or show to the audience is not good, when it comes to influencers, I believe that they should only teach and show people a positive influence, not that they will encourage in a bad way but they will make it look good using their communication and advertising skills. They can really attract a lot of people because they are already known and the channel they use on social media is already wide.


When a streamer promotes scam projects just for a few dollars, it is something that is unacceptable, as is the case with those who promote casinos that are scams, then you cannot have full trust with today's streamers, I will always say something, they always There are streamers who are sincere and who do not sell themselves for a few dollars, everything is fine, I support them, but in part with this type of things you have to be careful with, I remember that some streamers ran out of NFT games when they promoted projects of Scam games, and I think it's so hard to make a community that they waste them like that.

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I am not a fan of streaming communities in general for these exact reasons, especially for gambling.  I use to follow a couple Youtube streamers who would talk about gambling opportunities, giving helpful tips and what not.  But as time went on, I could tell that they were starting to just promote certain platforms and it was clear they were being paid to do so, and didn't necessarily believe in what they were promoting, just getting paid for it.  No thanks.

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May 16, 2024, 08:52:36 PM
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I am not a fan of streaming communities in general for these exact reasons, especially for gambling.  I use to follow a couple Youtube streamers who would talk about gambling opportunities, giving helpful tips and what not.  But as time went on, I could tell that they were starting to just promote certain platforms and it was clear they were being paid to do so, and didn't necessarily believe in what they were promoting, just getting paid for it.  No thanks.
Well, yes there are a lot of streamers like that. It's their way or a part of how they market the gambling website that they are promoting. They have to earn it themselves of being a gambling enthusiast to look professional in front of their viewers and make them believe in everything they say. Even if sometimes their words are just full of nonsense that a real gambler can easily tell they are just talking sh*t.


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May 16, 2024, 09:11:55 PM
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Why wouldn't majority of the viewer keep getting misleaded? Since we want to make fast money and the only place we could go is to online to check and follow influencers that are looking for money for themselves. We need to be wise and make sure we don't become so ignorant of what in happening im the world were so many influencers could go extra miles just to make money from their followers. We need to always make decisions for ourselves not trying to make money by all means we can always seek for help around us. Influencers are no good choice for us and we need to make sure we follow the right path.

Nobody is to be blamed. Looking at the troubles some players add to their gambling journey, you'd notice its caused by negligence. Gambling owns a policy that restricts players who are not 18 years old from being participants. But, promoted in platforms with no age restrictions. They chose those platforms for more reachability and exposure regardless of who is there or not.

So as to get their targets, they involuntary feel reluctant of limiting those ads from getting to the underaged this, then, will lure the young people to boycott the gambling policy. However, it's not wrong to promote gambling on such platforms. Yet, something lacks in the niche, the need to teach people to focus on responsible gambling habit. Those who get mislead wouldn't have been a victim if they were enrolled in some ways to learn responsible gambling.




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