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December 28, 2024, 03:51:02 AM
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The truth is that once Manchester City get their form back, it is possible they will focus on both the Champions League and their domestic league. However, if Guardiola notices that they are still in average form, he will definitely prefer to focus more on the Premier League so they can finish in a better position in the league table, ensuring Manchester City qualify for next season's Champions League.
Now the question arises, when will they return to their best form?
Currently City are like toothless lions who are having difficulty beating their opponents, they were not even able to beat Everton, let alone when facing a stronger team in the UCL. If Guardiola is able to improve his squad after taking advantage of the January transfer window, he must focus more on the domestic league to be able to compete again in the top four. I'm not sure City can survive much longer in the UCL, they will definitely lose when facing the favorites.
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December 28, 2024, 04:25:26 AM
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The truth is that once Manchester City get their form back, it is possible they will focus on both the Champions League and their domestic league. However, if Guardiola notices that they are still in average form, he will definitely prefer to focus more on the Premier League so they can finish in a better position in the league table, ensuring Manchester City qualify for next season's Champions League.
Now the question arises, when will they return to their best form?
Currently City are like toothless lions who are having difficulty beating their opponents, they were not even able to beat Everton, let alone when facing a stronger team in the UCL. If Guardiola is able to improve his squad after taking advantage of the January transfer window, he must focus more on the domestic league to be able to compete again in the top four. I'm not sure City can survive much longer in the UCL, they will definitely lose when facing the favorites.

I have been thinking back and forth about Manchester City and I was so convinced that they need this one game where they turn it around last second, celebrate a great victory and regain their confidence. But when you watch their games, you can see that there are systematic problems within the team as they can't find the gaps anymore with their game that consists of a lot of passing around the box. Haaland is lost most of the time and he can't use his speed because the opponents almost never give him that space. He now has to play more like Lewandowksi and he doesn't have the quality when the ball is crossed in high like Ronaldo with his headers. It is a terrible game for him and he doesn't receive any great assists.

I would be very surprised if suddenly Manchester City rises out of the ashes and plays like they use to do in the past. It isn't a team that has a short term crisis. It is more like a team that needs an overhaul and an adjusted strategy or otherwise Haaland will remain toothless along with his teammates.
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December 28, 2024, 07:57:05 AM
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Now the question arises, when will they return to their best form?
Currently City are like toothless lions who are having difficulty beating their opponents, they were not even able to beat Everton, let alone when facing a stronger team in the UCL. If Guardiola is able to improve his squad after taking advantage of the January transfer window, he must focus more on the domestic league to be able to compete again in the top four. I'm not sure City can survive much longer in the UCL, they will definitely lose when facing the favorites.
A very good question, and it will be very difficult to answer, and can only be answered by Manchester City itself.
If you look at the composition of the players they have, most of us would think they will be able to find their best form in a short time, but that is not a guarantee. We can look at their city rivals as a reference for example. In terms of player composition, Manchester United should be able to recover quickly but they need several years for that and even until now they have not been able to recover.
Yes I know they are different, because we cannot equate the process of one team with another team, but at least it can be an illustration that being able to recover is not something easy even though it is not something impossible either.

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December 28, 2024, 08:04:10 AM
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It's still a sensible choice if you're considering Real Madrid because Real Madrid can be very good in the knockout phase anyway. Because from the previous few seasons also in my judgment Real Madrid is not too good in the group phase even so, Real Madrid still managed to become group winners and even still managed to get the trophy. Also, although this time the format  is no longer a group system, but at least Real Madrid also still has a chance to be able to advance further even though it might have to go through the play offs.

But anyway, if I consider about their position in the current standings, then of course Liverpool deserve to be the top favorite. But even so, I personally still don't fully believe Liverpool will make it to the final match and get the Champion League trophy this season. With that reason, I believe there could still be surprises to come, and the odds  for the other teams also are very good  in the screenshots below.

This table appears dynamic to me in the sense that it wasn't in this form before now, the odds were probably higher and Manchester city and Real Madrid as usual were having the smallest because it was believe they were the two teams with the most chance of wining the champions league title this season but going but the current form and strength of Liverpool, they are now looking even more promising than the teams who were having the most expectations from in the early time of the season. Arsenal and Real Madrid having the same odds feels strange as before now Arsenal will have higher odds than Madrid will.
Before the start of the new season of the Champions League, I said that Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich will be in the favorite position this season, but these three teams are performing the worst this season, especially in the Champions League. Although Manchester City is showing some hope that they will do well this season as well but we are not seeing the kind of performances from Bayern Munich and Manchester City that we can assume that these two teams will do well. At this stage of the season, I now feel that Real Madrid and Liverpool will do well in the Champions League this season and either of these two teams will probably make it to the Champions League final. 

Not mentioning Barcelona because Barcelona have not been performing well recently. Since Barcelona's La Liga performance has not been very good, it is natural to assume that their Champions League performance will not be very good either.

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December 28, 2024, 09:40:53 AM
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Manchester City really experienced a very bad setback in the current league both at UCL and at EPL, it is true that I agree with you at UCL it is very small, but in the EPL it is still very long and can reverse the situation so that if Pep is focused In the EPL it might increase its position in EPL, seeing Chelsea who continue to advance and develop well in EPL after a long time they have been slumped, it is a great thing, of course Manchester City with a large PEP can be missed this season by not giving competition Means that in the EPL league, losing UCL will not be a problem, but that if we will have a win win solution for Man City Agara can bring the trophy this season.
I don't agree with you, of course because I think Manchester City still has a big chance of winning the Champions League title compared to the Premier League this season. The main requirement that must be completed is to qualify for the round of 16 regardless of having to go through the playoffs, then qualify for each other stage until the final. The gap in points created only prevents them from automatically qualifying for the round of 16, but their chances are still good because they are still among the teams that can take advantage of the playoffs to win tickets.

Even if it is reasonable to expect Liverpool and Chelsea to slip up, I tend to believe that Manchester City will fail to retain the Premier League title. The points gap is very high so far and that is the main reason why I have to say they failed. While there are 3 matches that Manchester City can use to qualify for the round of 16, in the rest we won't know what will happen.
If you really want to continue in the Champions League, it is necessary to defeat PSG in the 7th match and De Brudge in the eighth match so that he can continue to get the ticket, if only he failed to fight PSG Danaat also the team under the standings got a victory in his last match Man City did not Having hope but we do not know it so there is still a possibility to be fought for in order to enter the play off round.

Yes, even so as in fact at this time on the standings board and in or paper which incidentally Man City has a setback and it is very difficult to get another victory to bring the trophy but Guardiola is there, the possibility can change much better in his hand.

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December 28, 2024, 10:44:06 AM
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Now the question arises, when will they return to their best form?
Currently City are like toothless lions who are having difficulty beating their opponents, they were not even able to beat Everton, let alone when facing a stronger team in the UCL. If Guardiola is able to improve his squad after taking advantage of the January transfer window, he must focus more on the domestic league to be able to compete again in the top four. I'm not sure City can survive much longer in the UCL, they will definitely lose when facing the favorites.

They have to sell Kevin De Bruyne, they have to let go of IIkay Gundugan, they'll need a replacement for Kyle Walker and also a new central defender who can do neat and proper defending job. Until they do that, they'll be no where near the top or being one of the best again. Since Rodri the world best player will be returning soon from injury,  his role can be overlooked but I doubt that. In the champions league,  I don't see them going far.

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December 28, 2024, 10:49:05 AM
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The truth is that once Manchester City get their form back, it is possible they will focus on both the Champions League and their domestic league. However, if Guardiola notices that they are still in average form, he will definitely prefer to focus more on the Premier League so they can finish in a better position in the league table, ensuring Manchester City qualify for next season's Champions League.
Now the question arises, when will they return to their best form?
Currently City are like toothless lions who are having difficulty beating their opponents, they were not even able to beat Everton, let alone when facing a stronger team in the UCL. If Guardiola is able to improve his squad after taking advantage of the January transfer window, he must focus more on the domestic league to be able to compete again in the top four. I'm not sure City can survive much longer in the UCL, they will definitely lose when facing the favorites.
Citty match against PSG will determine if they can survive the group stage. If they fail to win PSG, they are gone. It's only the transfer window that can bring back hope to City because their current players have nothing to offer again for the club. EPL is the only league that City can be hopeful of and that depends on the team's strength after getting new players in January.

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December 28, 2024, 12:02:09 PM
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Citty match against PSG will determine if they can survive the group stage. If they fail to win PSG, they are gone. It's only the transfer window that can bring back hope to City because their current players have nothing to offer again for the club. EPL is the only league that City can be hopeful of and that depends on the team's strength after getting new players in January.
At least when playing against PSG, Man City getting a draw is already a very good result. And after that in the 8th match Man City will get an opponent who is very easy to get full points. So when playing against PSG, Guardiola must really think more deeply to overcome this problem.
At least being able to qualify for the play-off round, Man City still has hope. Because I am sure that in the transfer market later Guardiola will replace players who are no longer productive and will bring in more reliable players.
If this fails, even in the EPL, Man City will not have any chance.

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December 28, 2024, 12:53:22 PM
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Wouldn't it be better to extend his contract rather than find a replacement? There is no better winger in Europe this season, and finding a replacement would cost more than extending his contract.

He rejected a big money move to Saudi last season so I don't think moving to Saudi is an option.

I did read he was close to agreeing with Liverpool but I'm not certain nor did I find that valid. A good option to replace him would be that right winger from Brentford Utd. He will do just fine but expecting him.to be consistent like Mo Salah is not something I would even imagine. Nothing has been said truthfully.

We will see what happens to the big money moves when the right time comes. Maybe, he will think about a swith if he eventually gets the offer again. Doubt if he was going to play for em again.

No, no proposal has been presented to him and his team as of this moment and there's literally no good experienced backup in that team you just mentioned. Getting a good replacement like i mentioned earlier would be way more expensive than renewing Salah for another 2 years contract and maybe sell him after one year for some profit.


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Now the question arises, when will they return to their best form?
Currently City are like toothless lions who are having difficulty beating their opponents, they were not even able to beat Everton, let alone when facing a stronger team in the UCL. If Guardiola is able to improve his squad after taking advantage of the January transfer window, he must focus more on the domestic league to be able to compete again in the top four. I'm not sure City can survive much longer in the UCL, they will definitely lose when facing the favorites.

They have to sell Kevin De Bruyne, they have to let go of IIkay Gundugan, they'll need a replacement for Kyle Walker and also a new central defender who can do neat and proper defending job. Until they do that, they'll be no where near the top or being one of the best again. Since Rodri the world best player will be returning soon from injury,  his role can be overlooked but I doubt that. In the champions league,  I don't see them going far.
De Bruyne contract will be expired at the end of this season so without having to be sold automatically De Bruyne will leave Manchester City this summer and Guardiola has confirmed that this winter Manchester City will bought some players besides those players above i think Guardiola should be buy at least 1 striker as the substutition player of Haaland because i can see it that when Haaland unable to in form Manchester City don't have any good striker and indeed they have Phil Foden but his performance is decline and last season Manchester City has Julian Alvarez but unfortunately they sell him to Atletico Madrid
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Manchester City and PSG are at least elite teams that are not in a good position at this moment, although Manchester City is still in a better position than PSG but still, they should be in the upper zone of the standings or at least in the top eight. Thus, the winning result is certainly the result that remains their target but at the same time,that Manchester City and PSG at this moment are also both in bad performance especially about Manchester City which is also bad in the Premier League. Thus,maybe their last match could be the decider when Manchester City plays at home against Club Brugge and PSG plays away against Stuttgart. Because I think, for the match between PSG vs Manchester City maybe the result  could be a draw.

We would never have thought that the elite teams that usually easily secured tickets to the round of 16, now both teams ran out of breath in the group stage.

Yes and if we turn to their respective domestic leagues, it seems that in the French League 1, PSG is in good form and they are still at the top of the standings. Unlike Man City who was initially able to top the standings, now has to drop to 7th position. Man City is clearly experiencing major problems in the club and its line-up, because many core players are on the injury list.

PSG is so dominant in the domestic league, but they have not been able to take that dominance to a higher level. The club that always dreams of the Champions League trophy, this season they are actually threatened with being eliminated early in the qualifying round.

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December 28, 2024, 01:31:08 PM
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The truth is that once Manchester City get their form back, it is possible they will focus on both the Champions League and their domestic league. However, if Guardiola notices that they are still in average form, he will definitely prefer to focus more on the Premier League so they can finish in a better position in the league table, ensuring Manchester City qualify for next season's Champions League.
Now the question arises, when will they return to their best form?
Currently City are like toothless lions who are having difficulty beating their opponents, they were not even able to beat Everton, let alone when facing a stronger team in the UCL. If Guardiola is able to improve his squad after taking advantage of the January transfer window, he must focus more on the domestic league to be able to compete again in the top four. I'm not sure City can survive much longer in the UCL, they will definitely lose when facing the favorites.
I don't think it's right to say that they will definitely lose. Because we can't know these things before the match is played. Any effective match can change the fate of the match. For example, a red card that can be seen by the opposing team will put the opposing team at a great disadvantage. Manchester City has not been successful lately, yes we know that, but maybe they will be better in the future under Guardiola. Guardiola currently has a period of rest ahead of him. I think he has the capacity to use this period in the best way and turn the team into a more energetic and well-playing team.

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De Bruyne contract will be expired at the end of this season so without having to be sold automatically De Bruyne will leave Manchester City this summer and Guardiola has confirmed that this winter Manchester City will bought some players besides those players above i think Guardiola should be buy at least 1 striker as the substutition player of Haaland because i can see it that when Haaland unable to in form Manchester City don't have any good striker and indeed they have Phil Foden but his performance is decline and last season Manchester City has Julian Alvarez but unfortunately they sell him to Atletico Madrid

I agree with you, Man City cannot continue to expect Haaland to work hard up front. We also often see how Haaland becomes unhinged when he is pressured by the opponent's defense. In addition to the decline in performance that he could experience, injury is very likely to befall Haaland if he continues to get strong pressure in every game. Getting a striker with a sharpness that is not inferior to Haaland is also very important for Man City. They have quite a lot of matches in various competitions, so it will be very important to maintain the fitness of each player to maximize the team's performance. Man City has also felt that some of their players have been injured and that makes it difficult for the game to run as they expected.

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December 28, 2024, 01:49:31 PM
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De Bruyne contract will be expired at the end of this season so without having to be sold automatically De Bruyne will leave Manchester City this summer and Guardiola has confirmed that this winter Manchester City will bought some players besides those players above i think Guardiola should be buy at least 1 striker as the substutition player of Haaland because i can see it that when Haaland unable to in form Manchester City don't have any good striker and indeed they have Phil Foden but his performance is decline and last season Manchester City has Julian Alvarez but unfortunately they sell him to Atletico Madrid

I agree with you, Man City cannot continue to expect Haaland to work hard up front. We also often see how Haaland becomes unhinged when he is pressured by the opponent's defense. In addition to the decline in performance that he could experience, injury is very likely to befall Haaland if he continues to get strong pressure in every game. Getting a striker with a sharpness that is not inferior to Haaland is also very important for Man City. They have quite a lot of matches in various competitions, so it will be very important to maintain the fitness of each player to maximize the team's performance. Man City has also felt that some of their players have been injured and that makes it difficult for the game to run as they expected.
Haaland thrives better when the full team is actively performing at their best. He is just a good finisher and not a fancy player. That's why when the pressure from opposing team becomes too heavy his performance for that very match starts retarding. Kelvin se Bruyne has been a big contribute factor to the City squard and Gaurdiolla would need to look out for his replacement in the coming transfer market.

Instead of getting a replacement for Haaland I think Gaurdiolla should focus on his wingers  and central midfielders. If this positions are stable then then Haaland will be at his best again where all the need do is feed him with the ball at the right position and allow him perform his magic

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December 28, 2024, 02:08:59 PM
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Citty match against PSG will determine if they can survive the group stage. If they fail to win PSG, they are gone. It's only the transfer window that can bring back hope to City because their current players have nothing to offer again for the club. EPL is the only league that City can be hopeful of and that depends on the team's strength after getting new players in January.
Manchester City is a team that has a lot of finances so I am also sure that the team can bring in some new players through the January transfer window. Because Pep and the team management must continue to move to see that option as early as possible in the transfer window because it is true as you said if Manchester City only hopes for a miracle from the players they currently have, of course there will be no significant change in performance for them this season. So the choice must still be able to get new players in order to find changes in their strengths so that they are not immediately eliminated from the UCL this season.

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December 28, 2024, 02:39:33 PM
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Citty match against PSG will determine if they can survive the group stage. If they fail to win PSG, they are gone. It's only the transfer window that can bring back hope to City because their current players have nothing to offer again for the club. EPL is the only league that City can be hopeful of and that depends on the team's strength after getting new players in January.
Manchester City is a team that has a lot of finances so I am also sure that the team can bring in some new players through the January transfer window. Because Pep and the team management must continue to move to see that option as early as possible in the transfer window because it is true as you said if Manchester City only hopes for a miracle from the players they currently have, of course there will be no significant change in performance for them this season. So the choice must still be able to get new players in order to find changes in their strengths so that they are not immediately eliminated from the UCL this season.

It looks like this will be a deciding match for both of them because whoever loses this match will have a tough time qualifying for the playoffs. They don't just have to win the last game, but they will also likely depend on the matches of other teams. If you look at the current situation, PSG might have a better chance of winning than Man City because they have the home advantage and Man City has been really bad recently. Luckily the match will still be held for quite some time, so Man City still has time to improve their performance, and they might take advantage of this January transfer window.
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December 28, 2024, 02:58:29 PM
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It looks like this will be a deciding match for both of them because whoever loses this match will have a tough time qualifying for the playoffs. They don't just have to win the last game, but they will also likely depend on the matches of other teams. If you look at the current situation, PSG might have a better chance of winning than Man City because they have the home advantage and Man City has been really bad recently. Luckily the match will still be held for quite some time, so Man City still has time to improve their performance, and they might take advantage of this January transfer window.
PSG's chances of qualifying for the playoff round do not depend on the results of other teams if they win the remaining two matches against Manchester City and Stuttgart.One point difference in the standings with Manchester City become big opportunity for PSG to replace The Citizen's position in the standings to get a slot in the playoffs round. I think PSG not have waiting the other team matches result if can secure three points at two matches left and directly will drop Manchester City outside from playoff round standings place.

Champion League season 2024/24 very interested after several top teams have drop to bottom standings position, have opportunity any top teams will face at playoff round match after difficulty reach the top eight position standings. Recently only Liverpool have been qualify to knock out round directly and the upcoming match seems Barcelona and Arsenal have opportunity will get qualify.

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December 28, 2024, 03:05:00 PM
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De Bruyne contract will be expired at the end of this season so without having to be sold automatically De Bruyne will leave Manchester City this summer and Guardiola has confirmed that this winter Manchester City will bought some players besides those players above i think Guardiola should be buy at least 1 striker as the substutition player of Haaland because i can see it that when Haaland unable to in form Manchester City don't have any good striker and indeed they have Phil Foden but his performance is decline and last season Manchester City has Julian Alvarez but unfortunately they sell him to Atletico Madrid

I agree with you, Man City cannot continue to expect Haaland to work hard up front. We also often see how Haaland becomes unhinged when he is pressured by the opponent's defense. In addition to the decline in performance that he could experience, injury is very likely to befall Haaland if he continues to get strong pressure in every game. Getting a striker with a sharpness that is not inferior to Haaland is also very important for Man City. They have quite a lot of matches in various competitions, so it will be very important to maintain the fitness of each player to maximize the team's performance. Man City has also felt that some of their players have been injured and that makes it difficult for the game to run as they expected.
Haaland thrives better when the full team is actively performing at their best. He is just a good finisher and not a fancy player. That's why when the pressure from opposing team becomes too heavy his performance for that very match starts retarding. Kelvin se Bruyne has been a big contribute factor to the City squard and Gaurdiolla would need to look out for his replacement in the coming transfer market.

Instead of getting a replacement for Haaland I think Gaurdiolla should focus on his wingers  and central midfielders. If this positions are stable then then Haaland will be at his best again where all the need do is feed him with the ball at the right position and allow him perform his magic

We have seen how Man City played without Kevin De Bruyne when he was injured. He plays a very important role in the team. If he is not on the team, then Man City should have got a replacement. Maybe that will be their main priority.
Regarding Haaland, I just think Man City has a striker who can also be a team supporter. Maybe not as good as Haaland, but having a player like that who can replace in difficult situations will certainly help Man City in difficult situations.
Man City will solve the problem from the most important first, including finding a player who can replace Kevin De Bruyne's role.

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December 28, 2024, 03:12:15 PM
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Manchester City's season is not going well at all. We can't say that the start of the Champions League is good at all for Guardiola's team. However, their influence in every previous league is etched in the minds of football fans and they hope that Guardiola will return to his old form with his team.
This season of Manchester City is not going well at all, maybe their team coach Pep Guardiola is trying a lot for that but they are not able to do it. Manchester City had previously won the UEFA Champions League, so many supporters of the team expected that they might be able to make a strong impact in the Champions League this year as well.
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However, we cannot judge anyone by looking at the bad state of one season. They should learn from their failures how other teams are improving and getting ahead of them. They should learn from other teams how to update themselves day by day. However, I think Pep Guardiola is a talented manager. Although he has kept a bit of silence this season, he has kept his pressure in the past. We cannot deny the flip side of the coin, maybe this time is not good for Manchester City. But I believe that Guardiola will return to the field very soon with a new plan.
Perhaps we shouldn't blame Manchester City's team coach for their ongoing poor performances at the moment. No matter how hard their team coach tries, if Manchester City's defense, midfielders and attacking players are not strong, this team will not be as strong as it was before. Manchester City is a midfielder player who is injured, maybe Manchester City could have done a stronger performance if he was included in the team.
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December 28, 2024, 03:30:50 PM
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I agree with you, Man City cannot continue to expect Haaland to work hard up front. We also often see how Haaland becomes unhinged when he is pressured by the opponent's defense. In addition to the decline in performance that he could experience, injury is very likely to befall Haaland if he continues to get strong pressure in every game. Getting a striker with a sharpness that is not inferior to Haaland is also very important for Man City. They have quite a lot of matches in various competitions, so it will be very important to maintain the fitness of each player to maximize the team's performance. Man City has also felt that some of their players have been injured and that makes it difficult for the game to run as they expected.
Haaland thrives better when the full team is actively performing at their best. He is just a good finisher and not a fancy player. That's why when the pressure from opposing team becomes too heavy his performance for that very match starts retarding. Kelvin se Bruyne has been a big contribute factor to the City squard and Gaurdiolla would need to look out for his replacement in the coming transfer market.

Instead of getting a replacement for Haaland I think Gaurdiolla should focus on his wingers  and central midfielders. If this positions are stable then then Haaland will be at his best again where all the need do is feed him with the ball at the right position and allow him perform his magic

We have seen how Man City played without Kevin De Bruyne when he was injured. He plays a very important role in the team. If he is not on the team, then Man City should have got a replacement. Maybe that will be their main priority.
Regarding Haaland, I just think Man City has a striker who can also be a team supporter. Maybe not as good as Haaland, but having a player like that who can replace in difficult situations will certainly help Man City in difficult situations.
Man City will solve the problem from the most important first, including finding a player who can replace Kevin De Bruyne's role.
Actually, if we look at what happened to them at this time, losing Rodri was the beginning of the downturn of Manchester City, so I think Guardiola should prioritise finding a replacement for Rodri in the near time.

KDB is the motor of play and attack of manchester city but so far they can still win even without KDB in the squad, but even so the role of KDB in organising and also building attacks is very crucial so manchester city also cannot lose him without the right replacement later to keep the balance of their team.

About Haaland, he is a great striker but still they also still need another striker who can replace his role, especially so far we see that Haaland has difficulty breaking into the opponents goal when facing a team that has a solid defence, so Guardiola needs other striker as alternatives if Haaland does not contribute in a match.
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