UEFA Europa League 2024/25 Season

[Docnaster]

Ten Hag? Worst coach in the universe? Damn right. This isn't hyperbole, it's cold, hard truth. He's got the tactical acumen of a goldfish, and his man-management skills are nonexistent. Unless Ten Hag pulls a rabbit out of his hat – and let's be honest, that hat's empty – this season's gonna be another train wreck. Europa League? Forget it. Premier League? Laughable. This isn't about new players, it's about a new philosophy, a new identity. And Ten Hag? He's the last guy to deliver that

Inasmuch as I don't rate Erik ten Hag among the best managers in English Premier League, I wouldn't not agree to your opinion that he's the worst manager in the universe. That's exaggeration at it's peak and you know that. We saw how Dutch club Ajax was performing under Erik ten Hag and for him to also manage to win two trophies in two seasons for Manchester United makes your description of him absolutely unfair. I'm not satisfied with his performance with Manchester United because considering the quality of players at his disposal, I expect much better than I've seen from him. He's a good manager for average European clubs but not for a big club like Manchester United.

[hahay]

Ten Hag? Worst coach in the universe? Damn right. This isn't hyperbole, it's cold, hard truth. He's got the tactical acumen of a goldfish, and his man-management skills are nonexistent. Unless Ten Hag pulls a rabbit out of his hat – and let's be honest, that hat's empty – this season's gonna be another train wreck. Europa League? Forget it. Premier League? Laughable. This isn't about new players, it's about a new philosophy, a new identity. And Ten Hag? He's the last guy to deliver that

Inasmuch as I don't rate Erik ten Hag among the best managers in English Premier League, I wouldn't not agree to your opinion that he's the worst manager in the universe. That's exaggeration at it's peak and you know that. We saw how Dutch club Ajax was performing under Erik ten Hag and for him to also manage to win two trophies in two seasons for Manchester United makes your description of him absolutely unfair. I'm not satisfied with his performance with Manchester United because considering the quality of players at his disposal, I expect much better than I've seen from him. He's a good manager for average European clubs but not for a big club like Manchester United.

Although I also don't think Erik ten Hag is an impressive great coach, but I also can't say Erik ten Hag is completely bad. Because after all, even though Erik ten Hag is seen as bad by you, but the fact is that Erik ten Hag still managed to make Manchester United get a trophy last season. Also, the opponent Manchester United faced was also not easy, because Manchester United also managed to beat Manchester City. Thus, at least there is still a good side managed to Erik ten Hag for Manchester United and not bad at all.

Indeed, maybe you are so disappointed or maybe you basically hate Manchester United or hate Erik ten Hag that you don't recognize the success side that Erik ten Hag has for Manchester United. After all, the Europa League hasn't started yet and neither has the Premier League which is just starting and thus, we can't judge Manchester United and Erik ten Hag badly because after all, there are still many opportunities that can be maximized during the course of this season.

[Frankolala]

Ten Hag? Worst coach in the universe? Damn right. This isn't hyperbole, it's cold, hard truth. He's got the tactical acumen of a goldfish, and his man-management skills are nonexistent. Unless Ten Hag pulls a rabbit out of his hat – and let's be honest, that hat's empty – this season's gonna be another train wreck. Europa League? Forget it. Premier League? Laughable. This isn't about new players, it's about a new philosophy, a new identity. And Ten Hag? He's the last guy to deliver that

Inasmuch as I don't rate Erik ten Hag among the best managers in English Premier League, I wouldn't not agree to your opinion that he's the worst manager in the universe. That's exaggeration at it's peak and you know that. We saw how Dutch club Ajax was performing under Erik ten Hag and for him to also manage to win two trophies in two seasons for Manchester United makes your description of him absolutely unfair. I'm not satisfied with his performance with Manchester United because considering the quality of players at his disposal, I expect much better than I've seen from him. He's a good manager for average European clubs but not for a big club like Manchester United.

This has always being my point that Manchester united is a big club and needs to good and professional coach to handle the coaching job and not just an average coach like Ten Hag who gets confused  in the middle of tight matches and make wrong decisions. He is a good coach but not a professional because if he is not, he would not be able to win those two trophies which he won or  I say he is a lucky coach?.

I am expecting a better performance and outcome at the end of the season because the club has given him all he needs to finish on top four, it is left for him to prove that he is not just an average coach but knows what he is doing and how to improve the team's performance in order for them to win trophies.

[rahmad2nd]

Ten Hag? Worst coach in the universe? Damn right. This isn't hyperbole, it's cold, hard truth. He's got the tactical acumen of a goldfish, and his man-management skills are nonexistent. Unless Ten Hag pulls a rabbit out of his hat – and let's be honest, that hat's empty – this season's gonna be another train wreck. Europa League? Forget it. Premier League? Laughable. This isn't about new players, it's about a new philosophy, a new identity. And Ten Hag? He's the last guy to deliver that

Inasmuch as I don't rate Erik ten Hag among the best managers in English Premier League, I wouldn't not agree to your opinion that he's the worst manager in the universe. That's exaggeration at it's peak and you know that. We saw how Dutch club Ajax was performing under Erik ten Hag and for him to also manage to win two trophies in two seasons for Manchester United makes your description of him absolutely unfair. I'm not satisfied with his performance with Manchester United because considering the quality of players at his disposal, I expect much better than I've seen from him. He's a good manager for average European clubs but not for a big club like Manchester United.

for me personally, Manchester United can not be said to be ideal. moreover, they have only played one match. but considering when they played their first match against Fulham, the performance of the team coached by Erik Ten Hag was quite good. especially, their defense line. although some players have not been able to be optimal, but their gameplay is very clear. besides, United also now has an alternative striker to replace Hojlund who was injured. talking about Erik Ten Hag, clearly we are not Manchester United supporters and admirers of Erik Ten Hag. however, this Dutch coach has a clear vision and mission. unfortunately, they experienced a series of obstacles that made the team's performance last season. not entirely Ten Hag who was at fault, in fact the United players performed poorly even though they had been given many opportunities. the factor of injured players, added to their poor performance. this season, some of the players they brought in were the right steps. except, Leny Yoro, I do not know the track record of this player. in fact, Ten Hag adopted the philosophy of modern football, a fast one-two-touch game. however, what he wanted to implement has not gone well. do united have a chance in this competition, if they can play consistently and improve more like in their first match. yes they have a chance for that, regardless of what they target in the premier league.

[beerlover]

for me personally, Manchester United can not be said to be ideal. moreover, they have only played one match. but considering when they played their first match against Fulham, the performance of the team coached by Erik Ten Hag was quite good. especially, their defense line. although some players have not been able to be optimal, but their gameplay is very clear. besides, United also now has an alternative striker to replace Hojlund who was injured. talking about Erik Ten Hag, clearly we are not Manchester United supporters and admirers of Erik Ten Hag. however, this Dutch coach has a clear vision and mission. unfortunately, they experienced a series of obstacles that made the team's performance last season. not entirely Ten Hag who was at fault, in fact the United players performed poorly even though they had been given many opportunities. the factor of injured players, added to their poor performance. this season, some of the players they brought in were the right steps. except, Leny Yoro, I do not know the track record of this player. in fact, Ten Hag adopted the philosophy of modern football, a fast one-two-touch game. however, what he wanted to implement has not gone well. do united have a chance in this competition, if they can play consistently and improve more like in their first match. yes they have a chance for that, regardless of what they target in the premier league.

I agree that they were decent, but remember that we have seen Liverpool lose to Atalanta 3-0 when they were the leaders in the league, that should tell you how hard these competitions are. Of course they dropped to third place later on but that doesn't change the fact that we had them at the top during the time of the loss, a team leading premier league would be expected to beat most teams in the world, including UCL teams too, maybe not Real Madrid, but there aren't that many teams leader of premier league could lose to, and yet they lost to Atalanta.

So saying that United is good right now is true but also they could lose is once again true as well. Just because they look good, doesn't mean that they are going to win it, so much so that even if they end up being somehow incredible and win the premier league and shock the whole world, that still doesn't mean that they will win this one too. You have to play game by game to see how it will end up.

[Lidger]

There are definitely flaws in their plans, Manchester United's defense is a little weak but those of us who understand football fairly well must say their midfield and attacking line-up is very strong yet they cannot do well with this team.

It is quite likely for us to see Manchester United defense getting better. Have you heard of the most recent transfers? They have signed Mazraoui and de Ligt. They are aiming to sign a defensive midfielder also.

These are good steps to take to fix defensive problems at a big rate. Europa League winner odds aren't determined yet. But I expect Manchester United to be one of the biggest favourites of course. 

It isn't unrealistic I think. It is all up to having a working system after making the right transfers. I hope ten Hag won't fail about that this time.

Manchester United have finally paid attention to their defense they have bought players but if they add one more experienced defender to their club I think their defense will be much stronger. All the money to spend now is to strengthen their defense line-up. Manchester United is a traditional club but in the last few seasons they have almost lost their tradition as they have not had good achievements in these last seasons. If good quality defenders are recruited to the club and if recruiting good quality defenders improves the club's performance then they should focus on buying more defenders very soon. They have the Europa League tournament ahead of them as well as the challenge of qualifying for the Champions League next season where they must perform well to meet these challenges well.

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I agree that they were decent, but remember that we have seen Liverpool lose to Atalanta 3-0 when they were the leaders in the league, that should tell you how hard these competitions are. Of course they dropped to third place later on but that doesn't change the fact that we had them at the top during the time of the loss, a team leading premier league would be expected to beat most teams in the world, including UCL teams too, maybe not Real Madrid, but there aren't that many teams leader of premier league could lose to, and yet they lost to Atalanta.

So saying that United is good right now is true but also they could lose is once again true as well. Just because they look good, doesn't mean that they are going to win it, so much so that even if they end up being somehow incredible and win the premier league and shock the whole world, that still doesn't mean that they will win this one too. You have to play game by game to see how it will end up.

Liverpool's defeat in the Europa League against Atalanta last season was quite surprising, not only that because they also lost with a fairly big score at that time. So just like the others, the Europa League is also quite difficult to predict.

Talking about Manchester United, actually every season the squad they have never lacks good players, but for some reason the players can't show their best abilities.

I think this has something to do with the strategy that is applied, maybe it's not suitable for the Manchester United players so they can't show their best performance.

[Webetcoins]

Inasmuch as I don't rate Erik ten Hag among the best managers in English Premier League, I wouldn't not agree to your opinion that he's the worst manager in the universe. That's exaggeration at it's peak and you know that. We saw how Dutch club Ajax was performing under Erik ten Hag and for him to also manage to win two trophies in two seasons for Manchester United makes your description of him absolutely unfair. I'm not satisfied with his performance with Manchester United because considering the quality of players at his disposal, I expect much better than I've seen from him. He's a good manager for average European clubs but not for a big club like Manchester United.

This has always being my point that Manchester united is a big club and needs to good and professional coach to handle the coaching job and not just an average coach like Ten Hag who gets confused  in the middle of tight matches and make wrong decisions. He is a good coach but not a professional because if he is not, he would not be able to win those two trophies which he won or  I say he is a lucky coach?.

I am expecting a better performance and outcome at the end of the season because the club has given him all he needs to finish on top four, it is left for him to prove that he is not just an average coach but knows what he is doing and how to improve the team's performance in order for them to win trophies.

Your point is valid, but now we have to understand Eric Ten Hag is having two years experience here, and he is now doing decent job which is allowing him to have improved performance from the team in this current season even their start is not ideal but still things are looking much better mostly peoples are having no faith into this team due to their unpredictable nature, but we can give them some advantage, and they will be surely given their best with having good spot at the end is going to be good for them as well.

Last season they were having worst end with many bad records were also broken, but now things are completely different and players also having good development now in second game we will have better view o their future because now things are asking for change, and they have to go with stronger mindset otherwise we can have another average season, and they could be having things completely out of their control.

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Inasmuch as I don't rate Erik ten Hag among the best managers in English Premier League, I wouldn't not agree to your opinion that he's the worst manager in the universe. That's exaggeration at it's peak and you know that. We saw how Dutch club Ajax was performing under Erik ten Hag and for him to also manage to win two trophies in two seasons for Manchester United makes your description of him absolutely unfair. I'm not satisfied with his performance with Manchester United because considering the quality of players at his disposal, I expect much better than I've seen from him. He's a good manager for average European clubs but not for a big club like Manchester United.
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Worst coach in the universe might be a bit much and sorry if anyone feels insulted about it. But Erik ten Hag? He's definitely in the running for worst in the Premier League. Sure, he snagged a trophy. But that was more about luck than skill. And let's not forget the absolute thrashings they've taken. Man City made United look like a bunch of amateurs

Yeah, he had some success in Ajax. But that's Eredivisie, not the Premier League. New season, new signings? Doesn't matter. Ten Hag's tactics are outdated. This "quick one-two-touch" stuff? It's not 1990 anymore.

Patience? Development? That's a load of crap. This is Manchester United, not some Sunday league team. We need results now, not in five years

[Velvet78]

The last round before league phase is going to start tomorrow with the first leg games. I have prepared a betslip like this:



I believe Beşiktaş aren't going to lose in this game. I can't be sure about them to win though. They are actually playing great in their domestic league now. But when it comes to European tournament, Turkish teams can be unpredictable. I know Ajax haven't started well. But I think Jagiellonia is an easier opponent than Panathinaikos. This is why I believe Ajax will win in both legs. 

Lastly I see Molde as an absolute favourite. I don't think Elfsborg can do much away. Molde would play for finishing the job early.

[rahmad2nd]

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I agree that they were decent, but remember that we have seen Liverpool lose to Atalanta 3-0 when they were the leaders in the league, that should tell you how hard these competitions are. Of course they dropped to third place later on but that doesn't change the fact that we had them at the top during the time of the loss, a team leading premier league would be expected to beat most teams in the world, including UCL teams too, maybe not Real Madrid, but there aren't that many teams leader of premier league could lose to, and yet they lost to Atalanta.

So saying that United is good right now is true but also they could lose is once again true as well. Just because they look good, doesn't mean that they are going to win it, so much so that even if they end up being somehow incredible and win the premier league and shock the whole world, that still doesn't mean that they will win this one too. You have to play game by game to see how it will end up.

Atalanta's performance won great at that time, they were able to defeat two teams that were candidates for champions in this competition. Liverpool fell in the quarter-finals, Leverkusen fell in the final round. Well, talking about Liverpool at that time, Klopp was actually faced with a fairly difficult situation. The reason is, it seems like their target at that time was the Premier League. We even remember very well, Liverpool's points with Arsenal and Manchester City were only a small difference. Well, IMO, this is one of the factors that put pressure on Liverpool at that time. They were divided in focus.

Now we are talking about Manchester United, that they have a chance to win a trophy in this competition. It's just that they have to maintain their consistency throughout their matches, especially in the Europa League. Well, that's why I didn't say that United would win this competition. We don't even know for sure whether Ten Hag is eyeing the trophy in this competition. Given their poor performance last season, the main thing they prioritize is their domestic competition. maybe, this is just a guess, Ten Hag prioritizes United to be able to finish in the top four of the Premier League. let's say Manchester United is doing very well in the Europa League, it is part of their journey when playing match after match. IMO, losing or winning in a match is a common thing. moreover, this season Ten Hag is trying so that his team is able to play their match with optimal performance. also, no one can be sure which team will win the Europa League competition.

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I agree that they were decent, but remember that we have seen Liverpool lose to Atalanta 3-0 when they were the leaders in the league, that should tell you how hard these competitions are. Of course they dropped to third place later on but that doesn't change the fact that we had them at the top during the time of the loss, a team leading premier league would be expected to beat most teams in the world, including UCL teams too, maybe not Real Madrid, but there aren't that many teams leader of premier league could lose to, and yet they lost to Atalanta.

So saying that United is good right now is true but also they could lose is once again true as well. Just because they look good, doesn't mean that they are going to win it, so much so that even if they end up being somehow incredible and win the premier league and shock the whole world, that still doesn't mean that they will win this one too. You have to play game by game to see how it will end up.

Liverpool's defeat in the Europa League against Atalanta last season was quite surprising, not only that because they also lost with a fairly big score at that time. So just like the others, the Europa League is also quite difficult to predict.

Talking about Manchester United, actually every season the squad they have never lacks good players, but for some reason the players can't show their best abilities.

I think this has something to do with the strategy that is applied, maybe it's not suitable for the Manchester United players so they can't show their best performance.

Although the Europa League is the second tier below the Champions League, but it does not mean that the top teams which play in the Europa League are easy to win. At least there have been many surprising results, and one of them also happened last season about Atalanta who was not the favorite team at all. But anyway, the fact is that Atalanta was able and managed to beat two  favorite teams last season in the Europa League, and Atalanta also managed to win with a big score in the quarter-finals beating Liverpool and in the final defeating Bayer Leverkusen which both managed with a score of 3-0 as well.

Clearly, it was a surprise and also proof that in the Europa League it still won't be easy for the top teams to win the trophy. Moreover, the assessment of Manchester United at the beginning of this season is also not completely perfect,  although they get three points there  but the reality is that it is also not easy for Manchester United to get it. Therefore, of course we cannot say Manchester United will get the Europa League trophy this season, but about a chance at least they also have a chance but it is still not a guarantee of winning the trophy.

[tygeade]

Manchester United have finally paid attention to their defense they have bought players but if they add one more experienced defender to their club I think their defense will be much stronger. All the money to spend now is to strengthen their defense line-up. Manchester United is a traditional club but in the last few seasons they have almost lost their tradition as they have not had good achievements in these last seasons. If good quality defenders are recruited to the club and if recruiting good quality defenders improves the club's performance then they should focus on buying more defenders very soon. They have the Europa League tournament ahead of them as well as the challenge of qualifying for the Champions League next season where they must perform well to meet these challenges well.

Yoro, De Ligt and Mazraoui all together in a single season, that feels like they finally figured out that they needed defense and they finally got it. Unfortunately Yoro got injured right away and will be missing some time, he is expected to make a comeback all the way in November which means he will miss the start of the season completely and will take some time for him to get in shape but it's at least a good sign that they are doing fine now. Harry Maguire is the shocking one to me, he looks like he is back on form and playing decently, he was a mockery a few seasons ago, but last season he was decent and looks like he is still decent. I believe that they are going to actually finish well this season with this team.

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There are definitely flaws in their plans, Manchester United's defense is a little weak but those of us who understand football fairly well must say their midfield and attacking line-up is very strong yet they cannot do well with this team.

It is quite likely for us to see Manchester United defense getting better. Have you heard of the most recent transfers? They have signed Mazraoui and de Ligt. They are aiming to sign a defensive midfielder also.

These are good steps to take to fix defensive problems at a big rate. Europa League winner odds aren't determined yet. But I expect Manchester United to be one of the biggest favourites of course. 

It isn't unrealistic I think. It is all up to having a working system after making the right transfers. I hope ten Hag won't fail about that this time.

Manchester United have finally paid attention to their defense they have bought players but if they add one more experienced defender to their club I think their defense will be much stronger. All the money to spend now is to strengthen their defense line-up. Manchester United is a traditional club but in the last few seasons they have almost lost their tradition as they have not had good achievements in these last seasons. If good quality defenders are recruited to the club and if recruiting good quality defenders improves the club's performance then they should focus on buying more defenders very soon. They have the Europa League tournament ahead of them as well as the challenge of qualifying for the Champions League next season where they must perform well to meet these challenges well.

Currently, I don't think that Manchester United has more problems in their defense line, despite not having played many matches. Even from their last match, we saw how their defensive line was very active. However, it would be good if they could add more players to strengthen the defense, if possible.

As for predicting the favorite team to win the Europa League trophy, I don’t think our predictions make much sense right now because the competition hasn’t started yet. We need to see the teams' performances before making accurate predictions. There may be some teams that we wouldn’t consider top favorites for the Europa League trophy until the competition begins and their performances become evident. Last season, for instance, I don't think anyone anticipated Atalanta winning the Europa League trophy before the competition started.

[karabiber]

Ludogorets suffered a shock in the Champions League third qualifying round. Ludogorets lost 3-2 to Karabakh in the rematch and were eliminated 7-2 in extra time. Three of the four goals they conceded in half an hour came within eight minutes and this result led to the departure of coach Georgi Dermendjiev. Ludogorets, then led by Zahari Sirakov, who took over on an interim basis, beat Levski Sofia in the league despite being tired and short handed.

Factors such as the Marcus transfer most likely not materializing and Duah's possible departure may also have had a negative impact on Ludogorets. Petrocub, on the other hand, are a modest team with very limited offensive power, but their defensive set up doesn't allow the opposing team easy positions. Although Ludogorets are the favorites in this match, they might not play a fast and fluid football. I expect a low scoring home win.

[MK-74]

The Lugano - Beşiktaş match will be played tomorrow. Beşiktaş is ready for this match. Beşiktaş won 2-0 in Lugano last year, this year their squad is better and I think they will win just as easily. I think they will win this match with a big difference and play comfortably in the second match.

[Weawant]

Inasmuch as I don't rate Erik ten Hag among the best managers in English Premier League, I wouldn't not agree to your opinion that he's the worst manager in the universe. That's exaggeration at it's peak and you know that. We saw how Dutch club Ajax was performing under Erik ten Hag and for him to also manage to win two trophies in two seasons for Manchester United makes your description of him absolutely unfair. I'm not satisfied with his performance with Manchester United because considering the quality of players at his disposal, I expect much better than I've seen from him. He's a good manager for average European clubs but not for a big club like Manchester United.

At Ajax he did quite well and that's not in dispute and he was given the accolade for that but on a world class scale, a coach should be able to literally fit in to almost any place and still produce results, when his productively is been restricted with space time and probably location, then he's still got some work to don on his career in other to be at the world class level. At Manchester United ten hag has failed to be at his very best such that he can be portrayed on that light of good he was seen at Ajax but he's still not so terrible to fit in the description of the other poster.

[Ndabagi01]

Currently, I don't think that Manchester United has more problems in their defense line, despite not having played many matches. Even from their last match, we saw how their defensive line was very active. However, it would be good if they could add more players to strengthen the defense, if possible.

Manchester United’s defense is not in a bad state that those positions needs urgent replacement of new players to strengthen those positions. I am more concerned about their attack because that is the position that they need to focus more on in order to be successful this season. Strengthening the attacking position is to me more important than focusing on the defense now.

As for predicting the favorite team to win the Europa League trophy, I don’t think our predictions make much sense right now because the competition hasn’t started yet. We need to see the teams' performances before making accurate predictions. There may be some teams that we wouldn’t consider top favorites for the Europa League trophy until the competition begins and their performances become evident. Last season, for instance, I don't think anyone anticipated Atalanta winning the Europa League trophy before the competition started.

Europa League in recent years have become a competition with a lot of competitive states in each round of the competition. It will be very hard to predict the potential winner now but base on past experience and how some teams performed in their respective league matches and made it here, we can get few teams that will have the strength and best chance to win the title, but anything can change at anytime when the league begins and we see the quality of each team.

[snipie]

The Lugano - Beşiktaş match will be played tomorrow. Beşiktaş is ready for this match. Beşiktaş won 2-0 in Lugano last year, this year their squad is better and I think they will win just as easily. I think they will win this match with a big difference and play comfortably in the second match.

Lugano @3.3 vs Beşiktaş @2.1.
These odds aren't reassuring. Apart from the close odds, their previous matches ended with a single victory for each team in like two months period. Lugano won with one goal difference then was defeated by two goals.
Seeing also how Galatasaray lost today then we should be worried about Beşiktaş making the same mistake..

[klidex]

The last round before league phase is going to start tomorrow with the first leg games. I have prepared a betslip like this:



I believe Beşiktaş aren't going to lose in this game. I can't be sure about them to win though. They are actually playing great in their domestic league now. But when it comes to European tournament, Turkish teams can be unpredictable. I know Ajax haven't started well. But I think Jagiellonia is an easier opponent than Panathinaikos. This is why I believe Ajax will win in both legs. 

Lastly I see Molde as an absolute favourite. I don't think Elfsborg can do much away. Molde would play for finishing the job early.

Good bet with odds @3.89 for 3 matches only but I think it's too risky and the chances of winning are also small, seeing your bets on Besiktas and Ajax in the first leg to win I doubt it a little because they will be visiting but if this is for the second leg I don't doubt it because I think they are superior at home.
I also placed a multi bet on the Europa League match that will be played tonight but the odds for each club I bet on have odds of no more than @1.5 and the overall odds are @2.97.