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September 27, 2024, 03:54:24 PM
 #1001

What's going on with Osimhen? played for 3 match and always has the most highest total shots, but he hasn't score any goal. There must be something wrong with him, even he wasn't happy in Napoli, but he can able to score many goals too.

Icardi only play for 12 minutes, but he can score a goal.

I think Galatasaray should prioritize Icardi to play as starter, at least they need to play until they score few goals to make sure they will win the match, then Osimhen play for the rest of the match.
Osimhen has not been able to score in every game played by Galatasaray, but I think it is not something surprising considering that he has only played in 3 games and is still not able to adapt well to the current Galatasaray game scheme, so we cannot claim that he has failed at the moment in Galatasaray because if you look at the contribution made by Osimhen in those 3 matches of course You wouldn't say he deserves to be reserved and replace him with Icardi in the starting line-up, I think there's a lot of big difference between a player who has played for three seasons and a player who has only played for three weeks, but even so I think the assist that Osimhen created in that game at least helped them win over Paok in the Europa League, looking at the sharpness and also the impressive performance of Icardi and Osimhen at this time, Seeing the sharpness and also the impressive performance of Icardi and Osimhen at this time, shouldn't Okan buruk trying to modify the Galatasaray game strategy by trying to played Osimhen with Icardi (duet)in the front line.
what the team needs is to get good results from every outing they go for and so far they've not ran shot of it. Since he came in, I wouldn't say that he hasn't blended well into the team because Galatasaray has been very accommodating and he is relating quite well with the players. Officially, he might not have gotten the goals we expected to commensurate all the hype that came with his transfer to gallatasaray but he's made remarkable assist and has shown personality in so many ways. He scored recently and unfortunately, it was overturned and tagged an home goal which prevented it from counting as his first goal for his new club. Based on his performance, he's been better at his and one key thing to take away from this sort of times is that he's learning to play team football more than just standing as an attacker who is waiting for balls to come his way so that he can kick it to the back of the net.

Sometimes it takes time for goals to come but what you're doing while waiting is very important and Victor osimehn has been it. Give the necessary assistance to your team mate when needed, forget that you're the key man and ensure your interest is that your team wins games upon games. If you're able to do, your players and fans will fall in love with you and with time, goals will Come naturally.

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September 27, 2024, 04:08:38 PM
 #1002

What's going on with Osimhen? played for 3 match and always has the most highest total shots, but he hasn't score any goal. There must be something wrong with him, even he wasn't happy in Napoli, but he can able to score many goals too.

Icardi only play for 12 minutes, but he can score a goal.

I think Galatasaray should prioritize Icardi to play as starter, at least they need to play until they score few goals to make sure they will win the match, then Osimhen play for the rest of the match.

Haha it's a bit complicated to comment on this player either he was unlucky or he just didn't have a chance because the other players were also at the same level, but no need to rush to conclusions, let's see how he plays in the next few matches. I watched the match in the first half and Osimhen had 4 chances to score but all failed as if luck was not on his side. Galatasaray will play the 2nd match next week as the away team they still deserve to be favourites because they have great players and experience.

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September 27, 2024, 04:32:55 PM
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Fenerbahçe - Union Saint-Gilloise 2-1. I don't care about all the negative comments and I think it was a good result, at least we got the win. Smiley
I think if we hadn't won three points in this match, many things would have been shaken.
Now I believe Mourinho will make better decisions with this match. His ideas about which players he will prioritize have definitely changed in this match.

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September 27, 2024, 04:38:45 PM
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What's going on with Osimhen? played for 3 match and always has the most highest total shots, but he hasn't score any goal. There must be something wrong with him, even he wasn't happy in Napoli, but he can able to score many goals too.

Icardi only play for 12 minutes, but he can score a goal.

I think Galatasaray should prioritize Icardi to play as starter, at least they need to play until they score few goals to make sure they will win the match, then Osimhen play for the rest of the match.
You should not forget that Osimhen is still new in that club and needs time to adapt into their game pattern properly. At least if he didn't score any goal, he was able to make an assist. Also a player on loan that is fit will always start matches and if possible finish the match because that is also part of the agreement.

You should not underestimate Osimhen because the coach knows what he is doing and wants to give Osimhen the chance of adapting to the team game pattern to build a better bond between him and the players.

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Fenerbahçe - Union Saint-Gilloise 2-1. I don't care about all the negative comments and I think it was a good result, at least we got the win. Smiley
I think if we hadn't won three points in this match, many things would have been shaken.
Now I believe Mourinho will make better decisions with this match. His ideas about which players he will prioritize have definitely changed in this match.

Yes but if you ask me, Mourinho is not the mastermind anymore that he used to be. His golden times are a thing of the past and while he can be so furious, he sometimes comes across as if he couldn't care less. They are doing ok in the league, but you can already see that Galatasaray is at their best in the league. If Mourinho wants to win the title, they can't afford dropping 5 points already after 6 games. Just see last season when 99! points were not enough to take home the title.

By the way, why was the last Fenerbahce coach actually sacked when he was able to score 99 points in a season? Was it only because they had the chance to sign Mourinho? They are paying him 10.5 million euros, so obviously Mourinho went for it. But I doubt that he will play a better season 24/25 than they played in 23/24.

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September 27, 2024, 04:52:26 PM
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Yes but if you ask me, Mourinho is not the mastermind anymore that he used to be. His golden times are a thing of the past and while he can be so furious, he sometimes comes across as if he couldn't care less. They are doing ok in the league, but you can already see that Galatasaray is at their best in the league. If Mourinho wants to win the title, they can't afford dropping 5 points already after 6 games. Just see last season when 99! points were not enough to take home the title.

By the way, why was the last Fenerbahce coach actually sacked when he was able to score 99 points in a season? Was it only because they had the chance to sign Mourinho? They are paying him 10.5 million euros, so obviously Mourinho went for it. But I doubt that he will play a better season 24/25 than they played in 23/24.
Fenerbahce are not like the team managed by Mourinho now, over time it will all come down to the fact that he will strengthen the defense, this will affect the team's attack, but for some reason it seems to me that this will not work in the Turkish championship, and as you said, losing 5 points in 6 rounds is too much, and Galatasaray is going without losses, and Besiktas can already bypass them if they win their game. Not the best prospects for the team, it is obvious that the hope was on Mourinho's authority, but his recent results show that his strategy is becoming outdated.

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September 27, 2024, 05:01:12 PM
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Yes but if you ask me, Mourinho is not the mastermind anymore that he used to be. His golden times are a thing of the past and while he can be so furious, he sometimes comes across as if he couldn't care less. They are doing ok in the league, but you can already see that Galatasaray is at their best in the league. If Mourinho wants to win the title, they can't afford dropping 5 points already after 6 games. Just see last season when 99! points were not enough to take home the title.

By the way, why was the last Fenerbahce coach actually sacked when he was able to score 99 points in a season? Was it only because they had the chance to sign Mourinho? They are paying him 10.5 million euros, so obviously Mourinho went for it. But I doubt that he will play a better season 24/25 than they played in 23/24.
Fenerbahce are not like the team managed by Mourinho now, over time it will all come down to the fact that he will strengthen the defense, this will affect the team's attack, but for some reason it seems to me that this will not work in the Turkish championship, and as you said, losing 5 points in 6 rounds is too much, and Galatasaray is going without losses, and Besiktas can already bypass them if they win their game. Not the best prospects for the team, it is obvious that the hope was on Mourinho's authority, but his recent results show that his strategy is becoming outdated.

If their opponent didn't get a red card, I don't think Fenerbahce would have gotten that win. What I saw, Fenerbahce only played well at the start, but after that one goal, they tended to play defensively, and that actually became an opportunity for U.S Gilloise to develop their rhythm. I thought that was Mourinho's strategy because like before where Mourinho really prioritizes winning without having to play well and even if it's just 1 goal.

 
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Yes but if you ask me, Mourinho is not the mastermind anymore that he used to be. His golden times are a thing of the past and while he can be so furious, he sometimes comes across as if he couldn't care less. They are doing ok in the league, but you can already see that Galatasaray is at their best in the league. If Mourinho wants to win the title, they can't afford dropping 5 points already after 6 games. Just see last season when 99! points were not enough to take home the title.

By the way, why was the last Fenerbahce coach actually sacked when he was able to score 99 points in a season? Was it only because they had the chance to sign Mourinho? They are paying him 10.5 million euros, so obviously Mourinho went for it. But I doubt that he will play a better season 24/25 than they played in 23/24.
Fenerbahce are not like the team managed by Mourinho now, over time it will all come down to the fact that he will strengthen the defense, this will affect the team's attack, but for some reason it seems to me that this will not work in the Turkish championship, and as you said, losing 5 points in 6 rounds is too much, and Galatasaray is going without losses, and Besiktas can already bypass them if they win their game. Not the best prospects for the team, it is obvious that the hope was on Mourinho's authority, but his recent results show that his strategy is becoming outdated.

Exactly, but the issue I have with Mourinho is that he turns highly offensive teams into playing more defensively. He literally forces his teams to become defense focused teams. He did that to every single team he was coaching. Now when he did it with Inter Milan in 2009/2010. it worked out because the balance he had within the team was perfect for it. But then he tried the same with Real Madrid and I know a good number of people who said that it was one of the least attractive times to watch Real Madrid ever. It wasn't enjoyable. Now guess who had the best offense in the Turkish league last season? It was Fenerbahce and yet in my opinion Mourihno goes too much for becoming a destructive team against the opponent. It is more about destroying the opponent than shaping their own game for the better.

I know that some people will now say that he is still winning titles from time to time, but the times that his teams were monsters are quite over. In 2012 Mourinho couldn't help but play offensively with Higuain, Benzema and Ronaldo and that was when they scored 121 goals in La Liga and won the title. Nowadays, as I said, is he trying to turn players into players that they are actually not based on their talents and strengths. I doubt that Fenerbahce will make it very far in the Europa League.

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September 27, 2024, 05:23:33 PM
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 Fenerbahce are not like the team managed by Mourinho now, over time it will all come down to the fact that he will strengthen the defense, this will affect the team's attack, but for some reason it seems to me that this will not work in the Turkish championship, and as you said, losing 5 points in 6 rounds is too much, and Galatasaray is going without losses, and Besiktas can already bypass them if they win their game. Not the best prospects for the team, it is obvious that the hope was on Mourinho's authority, but his recent results show that his strategy is becoming outdated.
Mourinho has gotten pass his prime so it will be very safe to drop down on the expectations placed around him because he's definitely not goin to really do much better but look for situations where his strategy still fits in and take full advantage of the situation at the end of the day. He before now for his strategy and how effective it has been over the years and how much he has been able to achieve with the strategy, i even think he is gradually getting to a retriable age and should consider that as his prowess is beginning to fail.

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September 27, 2024, 05:31:08 PM
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What's going on with Osimhen? played for 3 match and always has the most highest total shots, but he hasn't score any goal. There must be something wrong with him, even he wasn't happy in Napoli, but he can able to score many goals too.

Icardi only play for 12 minutes, but he can score a goal.

I think Galatasaray should prioritize Icardi to play as starter, at least they need to play until they score few goals to make sure they will win the match, then Osimhen play for the rest of the match.

That is how some players are. sometimes they don't really have a chance to score. Osimhen is a good striker, and everyone knows how he helped Napoli win league trophies; gradually, I am sure he will start performing well in Galatasaray. He doesn't understand his teammates very well yet, because even Mbappe, who is in Real Madrid, doesn't have a better chance to score because he only scores in penalties, but he has gradually started scoring without a penalty. So I am sure Osimhen will contribute to the club very soon since they did not lose their first encounter in the Europa League, he gave an assist and they achieved three points at home.

I haven't seen any complaints about any of the players.You can't compare icardi and Osimhen because every one will prefer to take Osimhen than taking icardi, because Osimhen is still doing well and is a young player with more strength than icardi, so Osimhen is doing well. I prefer Osimhen to be starting matches and the coach is trying his hardest and they are topping the league table and even winning there matches i didn't see any complain with any players.

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Fenerbahçe - Union Saint-Gilloise 2-1. I don't care about all the negative comments and I think it was a good result, at least we got the win. Smiley
I think if we hadn't won three points in this match, many things would have been shaken.
Now I believe Mourinho will make better decisions with this match. His ideas about which players he will prioritize have definitely changed in this match.
Union Saint-Gilloise almost gave a surprise in the early minutes and they dominated in the early minutes of the first half, there were several moments that they were unable to maximize throughout the match.
On the other hand, Fenerbahce was able to rise, this victory was very much deserved by Mourinho's squad
By the way, was the first red card given by the referee necessary? In my opinion the referee was not careful enough, but the second decision I agree with the referee giving a red card, the violation committed by Ross Sykes did deserve a second yellow card.

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September 27, 2024, 06:02:53 PM
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 Fenerbahce are not like the team managed by Mourinho now, over time it will all come down to the fact that he will strengthen the defense, this will affect the team's attack, but for some reason it seems to me that this will not work in the Turkish championship, and as you said, losing 5 points in 6 rounds is too much, and Galatasaray is going without losses, and Besiktas can already bypass them if they win their game. Not the best prospects for the team, it is obvious that the hope was on Mourinho's authority, but his recent results show that his strategy is becoming outdated.
Mourinho has gotten pass his prime so it will be very safe to drop down on the expectations placed around him because he's definitely not goin to really do much better but look for situations where his strategy still fits in and take full advantage of the situation at the end of the day. He before now for his strategy and how effective it has been over the years and how much he has been able to achieve with the strategy, i even think he is gradually getting to a retriable age and should consider that as his prowess is beginning to fail.

Although in the Turkish league standings Fenerbahce is in second place under Galatasaray, I think it is still a fine result because after all, basically Fenerbahce is not a team that is always at the top of the table. But indeed, because Fenerbahce has a great manager like Mourinho then it should be Mourinho to be able to make Fenerbahce have good results there, and not just be a shadow of Galatasaray.

But perhaps, Mourinho also still needs time and process which of course, to get a success will not be achieved in a short time. But with that too, it looks like Fenerbahce's  chance in the Europa League will also not be easy at all.But,  if for example Fenerbahce managed to qualify  for the knockout phase later, then I think it would have been a good result too, because this season is also Mourinho's  first season at Fenerbahce.

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September 27, 2024, 07:08:47 PM
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I think the 2 top surprises of this week's round was Man Utd's 1-1 draw against Twente, confirming Ten Hag is just not the man for the job, and FC Porto losing 3-2 to Bodo/Glimt in an away game, despite Norwegian team being crippled by a red card from the 51st minute.

Next week both FC Porto and Man Utd will play against each other in Portugal. Bookies think it will be anyone game with odds almost equal for each team, with Mn Utd being a very slight favorite.
If I had to bet, my money would probably go on Porto. They are doing OK in the league and I think Wednesday's loss was just a minor mishap, whereas it's clear that something is clearly wrong with Man Utd.

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September 27, 2024, 07:40:25 PM
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FCSB vs RFS is the game of the night for me because I'm rooting so massively for FCSB to win and take 3 massive points to make all the Romanians happy including me. So far the game is good with 1-1 in first half ( also being the first game with 1 goal in first half so far ) but FCSB is slowly but surely controlling the game and I think they will score at least 2 more goals by the end of the game.

I also won't be surprised if I see Besiktas winning against Ajax tonight or take 1 point from them and same goes for Roma who is not in a great period at all and the start of Serie A is also very badly for them.
The match is almost over in the first half and we see that FCSB won the match temporarily with 2-1 points because Marius added a goal in the second 32nd minute and they lead the match very well, and the more time goes by they are more and more brave to play the ball and make RFS exhausted, your prediction is correct.

Ajax got goal 1 and won the match in the first half, and we will wait for the second half how Ajax can continue to get goals before they are overtaken by Besiktas, both are quite hard and competitive, it seems that if ajax can maintain its points it is likely to get a victory and will not share points for this first match.


Yep , FCSB played majestically last night and won by 4-1. I was also right that FCSB can score at least 2 more times and they did it in fashion because at some points they were first on standings but Ajax came and make a huge 4-0 to take 1st spot.

I personally didn't have any faith in Ajax or the current team they have but somehow last night they played their best football in the last year.

The biggest surprise came for Olympiakos who were the champions of Conference League didn't even manage to score 1 goal against Lyon because Lyon really dominated the entire game from 1st minute until the last one.

Ajax did play quite well and in the second half they were more crazy by getting 3 additional goals and that surprised me too, in the first half Besiktas could slightly compensate for how Ajax played and Ajax could only get one goal but the second half really made us stunned on Ajax's way.
Olympiakos was made helpless by Lyon in the first half they were quite balanced but in the second half Olympiokos had a lot of blunders and that made Lyon's opportunity to control this match.

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I said that Beşiktaş had a serious drop in form. Especially the matches he played in the league before this were proof of this.
Defeat was inevitable when they played against Ajax last night with the wrong squad.

Yes, Gio rotated, but I don't think rotation was something that would happen in this match. It was bad to be on the field with young Mustafa. Beşiktaş did not have a memorable position. Yesterday's bad start in the UEFA Europa League will also affect the league.

 Beşiktaş will have a hard time away against Kayseri on Monday. If there is no obvious referee error, I do not think Beşiktaş can win the match.
Even we are having some surprises and upsets but without any doubt this is humiliating defeat for the Besiktas against Ajax which is having not good time in last season and in this season as well because they punish badly them, and we have no short on goal from the Besiktas which is another huge below for them and their attack.

After watching this game now I have strong feeling Besiktas is not having good hopes into Europa Cup so most chances they will be stayed into Super League for having better results because this result is surely going to have negative impact on players and it's never been easy for them to overcome from this result as well.

Besiktas journey into this league are looking not easy as they are having next game at home against German side Eintracht Frankfurt, and then they will be visited Lyon which is also having good time in Europa cup games.

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I think early games of Europa shouldn't really be cared this much. United may have failed to win, and yes last year at UCL they looked terrible, but there are 7 more games right now and I think we are going to see them recover from this. I think that we are going to see a lot of teams end up with failing to win, it is going to be about 14-15 points that is enough to go to next stage within first 8th, and even less points, like maybe 10 points would be enough to be in top 24 so they can play one more game.

So all in all, I think it's clear that we are going to see United be there for sure, they can make a lot of points and it should not be really that complicated, we can make this work without a doubt. United can win 3 games without a doubt, probably more.

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Ten Hag really can't compete in this match well, it's better not to keep him anymore or if I insist I have to see Manchester United's decline even deeper. Cry

Well I've actually been saying that for more than 3 seasons where Ten Hag has been the worst decision of the MU and the only one responsible for taking this team to the lowest levels in the world , I don't know how they support him, what do they see in him? What is it that they like about him as a coach? I've seen that many people here in the forum defend him to death, why do they really defend him? the fact that they lose a lot ? the fact that they are not going to win Anything important with him ? that is what I see all the time, for me things will improve at the MU once that man leaves.

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If their opponent didn't get a red card, I don't think Fenerbahce would have gotten that win. What I saw, Fenerbahce only played well at the start, but after that one goal, they tended to play defensively, and that actually became an opportunity for U.S Gilloise to develop their rhythm. I thought that was Mourinho's strategy because like before where Mourinho really prioritizes winning without having to play well and even if it's just 1 goal.

Regardless of the fact that Fenerbahce has already scored one goal before their opponent got a red card in the second half but i also have same feelings that Fenerbahce would not have won Union St.Gilloise, it was after the red card that Fenerbahce started attacking if not they were defensive though that has always been Jose Mourinho's pattern of coaching right from time he does more of defensive formation than attack. Being more defensive than attack has been Jose Mourinho's strategy right from time especially when his team scores first.











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September 27, 2024, 08:35:01 PM
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Ajax did play quite well and in the second half they were more crazy by getting 3 additional goals and that surprised me too, in the first half Besiktas could slightly compensate for how Ajax played and Ajax could only get one goal but the second half really made us stunned on Ajax's way.
Olympiakos was made helpless by Lyon in the first half they were quite balanced but in the second half Olympiokos had a lot of blunders and that made Lyon's opportunity to control this match.

Ajax team has not been in good form this season. In the Eredivisie we see the average Ajax team at the top of the table. The Ajax team dominates the Eredivisie. But now this team is in tenth place in the table. Ajax won 2 out of 4 matches. The team's performance is erratic. For these reasons, I considered the Besiktas team as the favorite.

I have seen excellent performances of Besiktas in Super Lig matches. Besiktas have played well in almost every Super Lig match. But the performance of Besiktas players against Ajax was abysmal.

The dominance of Ajax's players was evident throughout the match. Ajax players made a total of 17 shots. 9 of these shots were on target. On the other hand Besiktas' players could not get a single on target shots. We saw Besiktas' poor performance both in attack and defense against Ajax.

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September 27, 2024, 09:00:47 PM
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In this format it is really difficult to get an image of the full standings. Even I do it will take a lot of space so I wanted to get only top 8 for now.  Smiley



This is how it looks after the end of the first week games. Seeing Galatasaray in top 8 makes me happy. We are at the beginning of everything, I know. But making a good start is really important.

It isn't easy to finish in top 8 among all those clubs. I want to see at least one Turkish club finishing there and Galatasaray to be that one if possible as they are my club.  Tongue  We look really good for now after that convincing win over PAOK.

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