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September 22, 2026, 08:38:23 AM
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Prediction of emergency might not be exact but trying to or ability to anticipate the area and some common happenings is possible. You can be able to foresee business brake or job loss, medical conditions and some others but you can't foresee the intensity and the particular time.
There're sometimes when people actually prepare for predictable emergencies financially, mentally and otherwise, this in a way don't just becomes easy that you have emergency funds but it becomes easier that you have emergency funds and likewise prepared for this foreseen emergency.

I don't see any need in trying to predicting possible emergency without taken measures on how to overcome those emergency in case those prediction come to manifest  but surely we will encounter challenges or emergencies  but it is wise we plan prior to those moment if at all it happens. However, i have come to realized that some of the emergency or challenge we encounter is caused by an investor because they neglected things they would have done earlier.
For every investment journey, I think an investor will possibly encounter an emergency, especially if you plan to hold for a long period of time. Cases like this is why emergency funds is included in every investment journey. So predicting if there will be emergency in an investment journey is just like not taking your investment serious, so rather make provision for it.

So as you making provisions for your investment, you should also be making provisions emergency funds. Every successful investment needs emergency funds because emergencies is part of our life.
While DCA is important for building a long term Bitcoin holding, it is equally important for you to build an emergency fund. If a new investor does not have an emergency fund he can build one while he is still accumulating Bitcoin. It is not certain that an emergency fund will be needed in the long term investment journey. You need to be prepared to maintain your Bitcoin holdings. This fund is less important to some long term investors but you must understand its importance. Another important strategy is to keep cash flow available as this fund will entice you to increase purchases during dumping and help you meet small emergency needs.

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September 22, 2026, 09:56:46 AM
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It is advisable to have a backup fund in case of Bitcoin investment because while investing in Bitcoin, your country's local currency earnings may suddenly decrease which may cause Bitcoin investment to stop, while investors will be able to use emergency funds to invest without any stress.The point is that this emergency fund acts as a hedge against unexpected times.
It is wrong to use your emergency fund to invest into bitcoin, its job is to protect your portfolio from being tampered in the case of unforeseen circumstances. Your bitcoin investment is not an emergency, so you shouldn't use your emergency fund to continue investing when your income has declined and you don't have discretionary income to follow up. If an emergency comes up when you must have used up your emergency funds to invest in bitcoin, then you'll have to tamper your portfolio to solve it which is very bad.

It is a better approach is to stop investing and just continue holding when you no longer produce discretionary income, while you workaround your finances to improve your earnings and when you can identify to having discretionary income, you can continue your investment journey from where you left off.

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September 22, 2026, 11:03:30 AM
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Discretionary income is important in starting to invest in bitcoin because it will be wrong to use money for basic needs and to invest in bitcoin. The amount used for investing in bitcoin must not be fixed but rather it should always reflect an investor financial capacity as it is possible for investors income to vary.
Investing in bitcoin should be for long term that's the only way to overcome short term market trends. Being consistent is good but it doesn't mean to invest even when the person is having financial problems. Investing with money that can be locked away for years should be the aim of all long term investors.
The key to starting a Bitcoin investment is having discretionary income as a tool to capitalize on situations when they arise.
If you rely solely on your daily income, it's very difficult to maintain a balance and avoid problems.

Because this income already serves a purpose, covering daily needs and shouldn't be relied upon for investment, discretionary income plays a crucial role for those investing in Bitcoin. This is especially true for those with long-term intentions and no other options. Having discretionary income allows us to maximize our investment journey until the specified timeframe is reached.
You need a discretionary income to start investing in Bitcoin, likewise you don’t invest with all your discretionary income, you will have to separate your reserved funds of emergency and backup funds, I don’t know if there are people who buys bitcoin on a daily basis, so if you’re buying bitcoin on a weekly basis or monthly basis you have to gather your income and decide how much your bills are worth, and your discretionary income to ascertain how much you will be accumulating that week or that month, so you will need to have a good financial plans and have a buying strategy that would be suitable and sustainable to you financially in the long term investment.











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September 22, 2026, 11:31:03 AM
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It is advisable to have a backup fund in case of Bitcoin investment because while investing in Bitcoin, your country's local currency earnings may suddenly decrease which may cause Bitcoin investment to stop, while investors will be able to use emergency funds to invest without any stress.The point is that this emergency fund acts as a hedge against unexpected times.
It is wrong to use your emergency fund to invest into bitcoin, its job is to protect your portfolio from being tampered in the case of unforeseen circumstances. Your bitcoin investment is not an emergency, so you shouldn't use your emergency fund to continue investing when your income has declined and you don't have discretionary income to follow up. If an emergency comes up when you must have used up your emergency funds to invest in bitcoin, then you'll have to tamper your portfolio to solve it which is very bad.

It is a better approach is to stop investing and just continue holding when you no longer produce discretionary income, while you workaround your finances to improve your earnings and when you can identify to having discretionary income, you can continue your investment journey from where you left off.
Yes, don't mix emergency fund with investing in Bitcoin. Your emergency fund is an urgent situation so you don't use the money for your daily needs. And don't use emergency fund to invest in Bitcoin because that is for specific reason.

What people doing wrong is they separate emergency fund and also use it to invest in Bitcoin. And if they are in urgent situation, they sell Bitcoin to cover that emergency situation.

People should separate their income for each needs so nothing will happens because they allocate the money to the right place. Their Bitcoin investment runs perfectly while they can fills their daily needs without a problem and they also have emergency funds to cover the urgent situation.
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September 22, 2026, 11:39:16 AM
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However, i have come to realized that some of the emergency or challenge we encounter is caused by an investor because they neglected things they would have done earlier.
How will an investor cause an emergencies like wind blowing off the roof of his house? Or flood from submerging his house? Investors can not cause emergencies to happen neither can they stop it from happening. Emergencies happen naturally, the only thing investors can do is make provisions to take care of those emergencies when they happen.

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September 22, 2026, 12:08:09 PM
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Prediction of emergency might not be exact but trying to or ability to anticipate the area and some common happenings is possible. You can be able to foresee business brake or job loss, medical conditions and some others but you can't foresee the intensity and the particular time.
There're sometimes when people actually prepare for predictable emergencies financially, mentally and otherwise, this in a way don't just becomes easy that you have emergency funds but it becomes easier that you have emergency funds and likewise prepared for this foreseen emergency.
I don't see any need in trying to predicting possible emergency without taken measures on how to overcome those emergency in case those prediction come to manifest  but surely we will encounter challenges or emergencies  but it is wise we plan prior to those moment if at all it happens. However, i have come to realized that some of the emergency or challenge we encounter is caused by an investor because they neglected things they would have done earlier.
If you've had an emergency during some certain periods before, then it is a good practice to anticipate it and be sure you're prepared for it. It may or may not end up happening, but if it does, then you've enough funds to tackle it and if it doesn't come by, your funds remain intact. If such emergencies becomes increasingly predictable, then it might help to include it in your expenses budget during such periods and hold it as float and if you don't eventually use the funds, then you can channel it back into your accumulation of bitcoin.

you will have to separate your reserved funds of emergency and backup funds,
Your backup funds comprises of your investment fund, reserve funds and discretionary consumption, reserve and emergency funds are still part of your backup funds.

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September 22, 2026, 01:58:29 PM
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It is not certain that an emergency fund will be needed in the long term investment journey.
Emergencies doesn’t give notifications before they happen, and it’s not also a guarantee that it will happen but there’s a 100% probability that an investor could face an unexpected situation or event in the long run of investment and at such, it’s better to make hey while the sun shines. Don’t neglect the emergency funds because you think it’s not certain to happen. An investor can still be buying bitcoin and along side keeping some part of his discretionary income for building the emergency savings.

This fund is less important to some long term investors but you must understand its importance. 
If you already understand the importance of the emergency funds then why treating it as though it’s less important. If the fund you’re talking about here is the emergency funds then I need you to understand that the emergency funds is very much vital for every long term investment/investor. Most investors are financially secured that they don’t need to keep building a separate funds for emergency funds, they can easily make available cash when in an emergency situations even if they didn’t save it gradually because they have the financial resources and support to do that easily. But we plebs must ensure we build the emergency funds gradually while investing In bitcoin by keeping some part of our discretionary income for such purposes.

Another important strategy is to keep cash flow available as this fund will entice you to increase purchases during dumping and help you meet small emergency needs.
Here you’re digressing a bit out of the purpose of a long term investment/investor whose focus is on a regular and consistent buying of Bitcoin with the DCA , you’re talking about keeping money aside for the purpose of buying the dip and it’s beginning to sound like a traders mindset because there’s a trade off when keeping money aside for buying the dip you’re not sure when it will happen. You can increase your purchase at any market price with the DCA if you have the financial power to do so without getting to wait until the market dumps before doing so. That’s a trader’s mindset.

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September 22, 2026, 04:14:17 PM
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While DCA is important for building a long term Bitcoin holding, it is equally important for you to build an emergency fund. If a new investor does not have an emergency fund he can build one while he is still accumulating Bitcoin. It is not certain that an emergency fund will be needed in the long term investment journey. You need to be prepared to maintain your Bitcoin holdings. This fund is less important to some long term investors but you must understand its importance. Another important strategy is to keep cash flow available as this fund will entice you to increase purchases during dumping and help you meet small emergency needs.

One of the most popular methods for holding bitcoin is DCA. Since investing in bitcoin from the start implies that you want to hold onto it for a very long time, DCA should now be the target because new investors are experiencing serious problems, particularly when their money declines. This is one of the reasons that having emergency funds won't be detrimental because you will have something to fall back on when the price drops, which is exactly how it is supposed to be.

and this demonstrates how essential DCA is we need to do all possible that before we start investing we should have emergency funds because we need it by all means and that is why am doing everything possible to inform people about bitcoin we should also advise them to prepare for emergency funds.

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September 22, 2026, 04:47:42 PM
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Poor people likely have more reason to make sure that they are investing into bitcoin as compared with richer people, even though bitcoin is important for all people, even though richer people might not realize the debasement of the dollar as much or even how great their lifestyle is affected by the debasement of the dollar - that includes the need to invest into something solid like bitcoin, as compared with poorer people... yet one of the problems with poorer people continues to be being able to ongoingly generate enough income to have discretionary funds that they would be able to invest into bitcoin on a regular and consistent basis, and perhaps even in an aggressive way, since if the amounts being invested into bitcoin are small, there may well be some needs for aggressiveness in regards to investing into bitcoin as compared with having the wrong kinds of focuses in terms of holding onto trashy cash that is debasing so fast that it becomes problematic to be holding it, unless the holding of the cash is offset by the holding of a good (and pristine) asset such as bitcoin.
You are right, what actually kills the poor people is making a wrong decision by saving or holding coins that may loses its value I stead of appreciating. The rich ones has a higher advantages to chest inflation without feeling anything, due to many asset they have On ground and they plan their life well by holding bitcoin for long-term growths, while the poor people must react or feels every Inflations because they feels bitcoin is risky, not knowing that thier money that's being hold as sm ash is what is killing them exactly and more riskier.

That's why I love the ideas of at least, even if it's $10 worth of bitcoin someone is buying weekly and be buying it consistently for long periods of over 8 years is better, some people may be seeing it as small investment but when someone in being aggressive with the small discretionary income is much more better than holding cash.

Poor people tend to have fewer resources to fall back upon, so it tends to be more important that they simultaneously build up back up funds at the same time as they are building up their bitcoin holdings so that they are better able to tolerate fluctuations in their discretionary income that may well be loss of income and/or increases in expenses...

If there really is an intention for poorer people to hold onto their bitcoin for 8-10 years or longer, then they have to purposefully put systems in place to safeguard their bitcoin from the various fluctuations in their income/expenses that tend to be inevitable over such a long period of time.  If a guy is seriously investing into bitcoin, he surely should want to not have to sell any of his bitcoin in the 8-10 year or longer timeline, and even difficulties in building such a timeline, and sure, even a guy who might have had been investing into bitcoin for 8-10 years or longer, after the time had passed, he may well find himself having had made quite a bit of progress but still not very close to his ultimate goals of being able to either completely live off the proceeds of his bitcoin or perhaps just being able to use his bitcoin to supplement whatever other income sources that he might end up having.

After 2020, the rate of debasement was at least 5-10% per year and perhaps even more.
+1 on everything you wrote but the official inflation is nowhere near 5-10%. It's been between 2.5-3% for more than 2 years now. The inflationary spike was 2021-2022 and officially peaked at almost 9.1% in June of 2022 and has been coming down since then.

You are likely living in a fantasy and believing whatever big daddy (government and status quo powers that be) tell you to be the case.

Of course, there is variance in the kinds of goods and services that you are seeking to purchase, yet the rate of inflation was likely averaging greater than 10% for several years in and after 2020, and there is almost no fucking way (except maybe some select products that the inflation rate is only 2.5%-3%).... By the way, there maybe be abilities to get 2.5% to 3% price increases on items that had already doubled in price over the past 5-6-ish years, and then now they are coming back down in price or even decreasing in price based on their having had gone up so greatly in the past 5-6-ish years.

I doubt there is any need to go in to good by good  or service by service comparisons.. .and sure you can believe whatever you like in terms of what I consider to be fantasylandia ideas of supposed stability that you would like to consider in terms of why you might believe that allocating to bitcoin does not matter.

And, of course, think about bitcoin?  What has bitcoin done in the past 5-6 years?..and maybe some of the adjustments in bitcoin even started in 2019 since we might consider even sub $10k BTC prices as a base point for guys who had been accumulating bitcoin in 2017, 2018 and/or 2019.

Oh yeah, you have only been around the forum a little over a month, but you still seem to supposedly know a lot about bitcoin, and surely many guys will try to create short-timelines for bitcoin and to selectively measure it, yet if guys had been accumulating bitcoin between even 2017 and 2020 and spent a good 4 years accumulating bitcoin during that time to create a pretty good base in bitcoin, then they would have had beaten the fuck out of debasement and the increases in their prices.

Of course, when we are looking at various timelines after 2020, then the results are not so spectacular, yet bitcoin's investment thesis has not really gotten weaker since 2021 and thereafter, even though we are likely also going to find (later down the road) that guys who had been accumulating bitcoin 2021 to 2024 are going to have had beaten the hell out of the otherwise ongoing and even seemingly guaranteed debasement of the dollar (and other fiat).  The pattern is likely to continue so the earlier that you get into bitcoin the better, and if you are a more recent entrant then it still might take you 1-2 cycles or more before you really start to tangibly notice the benefits of having had allocated into bitcoin rather than either allocating into dollars or some other assets (even though sure there are always going to be examples of certain segments outperforming bitcoin in various short term snapshots), yet bitcoin still remains an asset for everyman, including poor people who might ONLY be able to allocate $100 per week or $10 per week or some other relatively modest amount.

If you want to make a compelling argument for BTC, cite "official" inflation

I don't need to make any compelling argument for BTC, since you and anyone else is free to do as you please, including remaining in a fantasy land in which you believe that bitcoin is not helpful to you and/or your finances.

, which is wrong anyway since real debasement is higher, M2 growth, asset inflation, currency debasement, etc.

It is not easy to measure some of the various smoke and mirror indicators, even though surely guys who have been building their bitcoin holdings over several years, such as a cycle or two or more, are likely able to feel and notice their own relative strength and greater options that they have due to their having had allocated decently well to bitcoin...and yeah, it can even take a while to build up a bitcoin holdings and also to have that bitcoin holdings working for a while when it is still being built and perhaps after some time when guys might have had ended up putting 1-2 years of their income into bitcoin.. .whether they are only able to allocate 10% of their income per year to bitcoin or maybe they are able to front load and allocate larger amounts...and of course, guys who had been able to allocate more sooner have had more ability to measure meaningful improvements in their options.

Cash loses value over time and BTC is the better option to HODL long term. That way you don't have to make it seem like inflation is 5-10% when it's not.

We can agree to disagree, and it seems that if we are measuring over a period of 5-10 years or longer, there is quite a likelihood that we are getting 5-10% per year of debasement, even though surely there is regional variance and there is even variance based on the goods and/or services that might be in any consumers basket of goods.  I will concede that there may well could have had been lower debasement rates prior to 2020.. yet surely from 2020 and thereafter, it would be hard-pressed to come up with debasement rates that are lower than the 5-10% per annum range, and it tends to be likely towards the higher end of that range.. and really it is also quite difficult to imagine a future in which the annual debasement is really going below that range, even though surely there could be some reprieve years and surely as I already mentioned, there are some goods and services that went up so much in the prior years that they might either stabilize, go up less or maybe even come down in price in the years to come based on their already having had greatly gone up in price in earlier years.

you will have to separate your reserved funds of emergency and backup funds,
Your backup funds comprises of your investment fund, reserve funds and discretionary consumption, reserve and emergency funds are still part of your backup funds.

Huh?  Back up funds are emergency funds, reserve funds and floating funds.  Sure floating funds do not tend to be anything that is being held beyond any pay period since they might be additional funds that are just available based on unknown expenses for the pay period, and once those expenses are resolved the remaining floating funds can be put into discretionary income.

By the way, emergency funds tend to be amounts that you want to hold and to not spend on anything else except for emergencies, which largely would be if you have decrease in income and/or increase in basic expenses, so that emergency funds would be used to cover basic expenses that cannot be deferred until the next pay period.  Reserve funds have more flexibiity and they tend to be back up funds that are in excess of emergency funds.  Both emergency funds and reserve funds are forms of back up funds, yet the reason to separate emergency funds out is because guys likely will set limits for themselves in terms of how much they will tap into their back up funds at any given time, since they do not want to deplete their emergency funds in case they face some situation in which their income goes down and/or their basic expenses go up.. so they would not have any choice but to use emergency funds in the event that they do not have reserve funds and then they likely would use emergency funds prior to tapping into their bitcoin, since perhaps if we are talking about bitcoin we are wanting to prioritize it for investing and/or holding for 4-10 years or longer, so we are keeping various back up funds (including emergency funds) to protect our bitcoin from being tapped into.

You seem to be mixing up categories.

Discretionary funds (that is money available after accounting for basic expenses) can be used to invest, save (emergency funds/reserve funds) and/or discretionarily consume.

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September 22, 2026, 05:01:11 PM
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if guys had been accumulating bitcoin between even 2017 and 2020 and spent a good 4 years accumulating bitcoin during that time to create a pretty good base in bitcoin, then they would have had beaten the fuck out of debasement and the increases in their prices.

Sure, the argument over which stat is the most accurate representation of the "real" or "true" debasement % is important. However, that's the least important aspect of the argument, imo.

It's indisputable that if you built your position in this time frame (2017 to 2020 onward for a period of 4+ years) you're doing substantially better than those who kept their money as cash, regardless of which debasement stat we use. That's the validation that counts.
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September 22, 2026, 05:07:19 PM
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Poor people likely have more reason to make sure that they are investing into bitcoin as compared with richer people, even though bitcoin is important for all people, even though richer people might not realize the debasement of the dollar as much or even how great their lifestyle is affected by the debasement of the dollar - that includes the need to invest into something solid like bitcoin, as compared with poorer people...

Everything you just said is a fact Sir, rich people are already wealthy and might either use Bitcoin to maintain their wealth cause it's a good store of value or for sovereignty in terms of carry out transactions, but the poor needs to get away from poverty with the help of Bitcoin which is why they should take it more seriously and sacrifices some expenses that could've been used for fun/entertainment into Bitcoin and hold for years.

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yet one of the problems with poorer people continues to be being able to ongoingly generate enough income to have discretionary funds that they would be able to invest into bitcoin on a regular and consistent basis, and perhaps even in an aggressive way, since if the amounts being invested into bitcoin are small, there may well be some needs for aggressiveness in regards to investing into bitcoin as compared with having the wrong kinds of focuses in terms of holding onto trashy cash that is debasing so fast that it becomes problematic to be holding it, unless the holding of the cash is offset by the holding of a good (and pristine) asset such as bitcoin.

You're also spot on Sir, while the rich have more than enough to cater for the necessities and also enough discretionary funds which makes it easier for them to be very patiently and watch their money grow into better figures in the future, the poor lacks patience cause they got lots of responsibilities which sometimes makes it tough to generate more discretionary funds for investment which is why the majority of poor people go for options whereby they’ll get quick money forgetting or regardless of the risk.

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September 22, 2026, 05:25:34 PM
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While DCA is important for building a long term Bitcoin holding, it is equally important for you to build an emergency fund. If a new investor does not have an emergency fund he can build one while he is still accumulating Bitcoin. It is not certain that an emergency fund will be needed in the long term investment journey. You need to be prepared to maintain your Bitcoin holdings. This fund is less important to some long term investors but you must understand its importance. Another important strategy is to keep cash flow available as this fund will entice you to increase purchases during dumping and help you meet small emergency needs.

Yes. The DCA strategy really has a lot of benefits because with DCA we can also set aside money for emergency funds. I mean, they don’t need to buy a large amount of bitcoin all at once they can pay in installments with money left after covering basic needs and emergency funds. 

Besides that, the DCA method is really suitable for beginner investors because this strategy also removes the pressure of trying to guess the best time to enter the market. Plus by investing with DCA they can focus more on long-term plans instead of being influenced by emotions.

It can be said that this approach makes the investment process feel more controlled and less scary. With the DCA method, we also develop the mindset that it’s not just about promised profits but about building a disciplined habit. Besides that, we eventually realize that the amount of money to invest should match our personal financial capacity so it remains comfortable and sustainable. The point is with the DCA method a beginner can gradually learn consistency without having to predict price movements.

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September 22, 2026, 07:24:17 PM
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Yes. The DCA strategy really has a lot of benefits because with DCA we can also set aside money for emergency funds. I mean, they don’t need to buy a large amount of bitcoin all at once they can pay in installments with money left after covering basic needs and emergency funds.
 

You are giving a misleading example above, maybe it's a mistake and should be corrected. The discretionary income is the money left after taking care of basic needs and NOT after handling basic needs and emergency funds as you mentioned above. To get your discretionary, you don't need to handle your emergency funds first, nope. Your emergency funds is gotten from your discretionary income.

Once you have taken care of your basic necessities, all the money left or remaining is your discretionary, and it is with it you will 1)invest, 2)build emergency funds and other back up funds and 3) handle your discretionary spendings. This shows that the money left after taking care of your basic needs(discretionary income) serves different purposes to ensure you have a safe investment journey.
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September 22, 2026, 07:53:41 PM
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Discretionary income is important in starting to invest in bitcoin because it will be wrong to use money for basic needs and to invest in bitcoin. The amount used for investing in bitcoin must not be fixed but rather it should always reflect an investor financial capacity as it is possible for investors income to vary.
Investing in bitcoin should be for long term that's the only way to overcome short term market trends. Being consistent is good but it doesn't mean to invest even when the person is having financial problems. Investing with money that can be locked away for years should be the aim of all long term investors.
The key to starting a Bitcoin investment is having discretionary income as a tool to capitalize on situations when they arise.
If you rely solely on your daily income, it's very difficult to maintain a balance and avoid problems.

Because this income already serves a purpose, covering daily needs and shouldn't be relied upon for investment, discretionary income plays a crucial role for those investing in Bitcoin. This is especially true for those with long-term intentions and no other options. Having discretionary income allows us to maximize our investment journey until the specified timeframe is reached.
You need a discretionary income to start investing in Bitcoin, likewise you don’t invest with all your discretionary income, you will have to separate your reserved funds of emergency and backup funds, I don’t know if there are people who buys bitcoin on a daily basis, so if you’re buying bitcoin on a weekly basis or monthly basis you have to gather your income and decide how much your bills are worth, and your discretionary income to ascertain how much you will be accumulating that week or that month, so you will need to have a good financial plans and have a buying strategy that would be suitable and sustainable to you financially in the long term investment.
Sure it's true that investors need a discretionary income to start investing in Bitcoin, but it seems to me only a portion of the discretionary income that will remain after successfully completing these steps, emergency fund or backup fund and meeting basic needs, should be invested in Bitcoin. Note that emergency fund and backup fund are both important because emergency fund is the biggest wall of financial security but backup fund is a supporting part of monthly budget even as we know emergency fund is used in unexpected times and backup funds are used to cover temporary shortfalls in budget or revenue.

Look it depends on the investor to buy bitcoins daily but the advantage of buying bitcoins daily is that FOMO does not work but investing using this method increases the amount of transaction fees which increases the cost of investors, Consequently my opinion is that one should use the right strategy to buy bitcoins and hold the investment for the long term.

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Look it depends on the investor to buy bitcoins daily but the advantage of buying bitcoins daily is that FOMO does not work but investing using this method increases the amount of transaction fees which increases the cost of investors, Consequently my opinion is that one should use the right strategy to buy bitcoins and hold the investment for the long term.

Thats not quite right. Today, many crypto exchanges and brokers (especially those offering recurring savings plans) charge percentage fees (like x% per trade). In this case, it doesnt matter if you invest 100€ once a month or maybe 3,33€ every day, so with percentage fees, the total fee amount stays exactly the same.  Wink

The real downside and something you definitely need to keep in mind is tax tracking. Just for example, here in Germany, Bitcoin is still tax-free after holding it for one year. But with "hundreds of transactions" every year, tracking that one-year holding period (using the FIFO method) gets very confusing without special tax software. So of course a weekly or monthly savings plan (DCA) is definitely a much easier and less stressful way to go, but you still need to keep a few things in mind, like your tax records.

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September 22, 2026, 09:02:36 PM
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Poor people likely have more reason to make sure that they are investing into bitcoin as compared with richer people, even though bitcoin is important for all people, even though richer people might not realize the debasement of the dollar as much or even how great their lifestyle is affected by the debasement of the dollar - that includes the need to invest into something solid like bitcoin, as compared with poorer people...

Everything you just said is a fact Sir, rich people are already wealthy and might either use Bitcoin to maintain their wealth cause it's a good store of value or for sovereignty in terms of carry out transactions, but the poor needs to get away from poverty with the help of Bitcoin which is why they should take it more seriously and sacrifices some expenses that could've been used for fun/entertainment into Bitcoin and hold for years.

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yet one of the problems with poorer people continues to be being able to ongoingly generate enough income to have discretionary funds that they would be able to invest into bitcoin on a regular and consistent basis, and perhaps even in an aggressive way, since if the amounts being invested into bitcoin are small, there may well be some needs for aggressiveness in regards to investing into bitcoin as compared with having the wrong kinds of focuses in terms of holding onto trashy cash that is debasing so fast that it becomes problematic to be holding it, unless the holding of the cash is offset by the holding of a good (and pristine) asset such as bitcoin.

You're also spot on Sir, while the rich have more than enough to cater for the necessities and also enough discretionary funds which makes it easier for them to be very patiently and watch their money grow into better figures in the future, the poor lacks patience cause they got lots of responsibilities which sometimes makes it tough to generate more discretionary funds for investment which is why the majority of poor people go for options whereby they’ll get quick money forgetting or regardless of the risk.

Bitcoin is a good risk that is worth taking. So even if a poor person use to find it hard to get discretionary income, there is nothing stopping this person's from looking for ways that they can generate more money. But hey, some lots focus too much on that their current situation that they don't be able to think about how they can increase and expand that income they receive. AFAIK,person do not have to be rich as fuck before they can increase their BTC stash.

It is all about making sacrifices. So person can sacrifice their pride and time and learn a skill. Imo nobody is big to learn a skill, nobody is also too big to get a small business . Guys should just do what the fuck they can get them more money. And once they get more money and their incomes has increase the person will have more discretionary income for ongoingly investing.

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Sure it's true that investors need a discretionary income to start investing in Bitcoin, but it seems to me only a portion of the discretionary income that will remain after successfully completing these steps, emergency fund or backup fund and meeting basic needs, should be invested in Bitcoin.

What you are saying is confusing @Just Say.  Emergency funds and back up funds do not have any priority in the context of discretionary funds.  When a guy has discretionary funds, then those are used to 1) invest, 2) build up back up funds/emergency funds and/or 3) discretionarily consume. 

Also, basic needs have already been subtracted out of what ends up being discretionary funds, so I don't know why you are talking about basic needs in the context of how discretionary funds might be used.

Note that emergency fund and backup fund are both important because emergency fund is the biggest wall of financial security but backup fund is a supporting part of monthly budget even as we know emergency fund is used in unexpected times and backup funds are used to cover temporary shortfalls in budget or revenue.

This part of your explanation is confusing, too.  Back up funds is a generic category, and within back up funds is 1) emergency funds,  2) reserve funds and/or 3) float.  Sure, any of the back up funds could be used to cover shortages in income and/or increases in basic expenses to the extent that discretionary funds are not sufficient to cover...and since emergency funds and reserve funds may well build up.  I consider float to merely be temporary amounts of money that would cover unknown expenses, yet once the expense becomes known, then the remainder of the float would get returned to discretionary funds.

Look it depends on the investor to buy bitcoins daily but the advantage of buying bitcoins daily is that FOMO does not work but investing using this method increases the amount of transaction fees which increases the cost of investors, Consequently my opinion is that one should use the right strategy to buy bitcoins and hold the investment for the long term.

This part is confusing too.  Personally, I don't really like the idea of buying bitcoin daily unless you have made your weekly budget to account for it.  Generally it is good enough to buy weekly, if you can whether you are paid weekly, bi-weekly, monthly or some other frequency.

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It is all about making sacrifices. So person can sacrifice their pride and time and learn a skill. Imo nobody is big to learn a skill, nobody is also too big to get a small business . Guys should just do what the fuck they can get them more money. And once they get more money and their incomes has increase the person will have more discretionary income for ongoingly investing.

I doubt that it is fair to presume that all poor people can figure out ways to increase their income and/or cut their expenses, even though sure, there may well be some poor people who might be able to lift themselves up by their bootstraps and increase the amount of their discretionary funds.  Others might not be able to increase their discretionary funds in meaningful ways, whether it is age, health or maybe various other encumbrances that they might have related to their past relationships or what they were born into.

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You're also spot on Sir, while the rich have more than enough to cater for the necessities and also enough discretionary funds which makes it easier for them to be very patiently and watch their money grow into better figures in the future, the poor lacks patience cause they got lots of responsibilities which sometimes makes it tough to generate more discretionary funds for investment which is why the majority of poor people go for options whereby they’ll get quick money forgetting or regardless of the risk.
This is very true in your answer regarding the struggles of the poor in carrying out their actions, but the question is this doesn't mean that the poor can't do what the rich do.

Instead, difficulties force them to choose other options, even though they know the risks involved. They still choose those risks as a way to remain concerned, even though the reality is that things won't turn out the way they want.
Consideration is certainly there, but with fewer opinions, they seem to lose sight of the risks that could occur to them.
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if guys had been accumulating bitcoin between even 2017 and 2020 and spent a good 4 years accumulating bitcoin during that time to create a pretty good base in bitcoin, then they would have had beaten the fuck out of debasement and the increases in their prices.

Sure, the argument over which stat is the most accurate representation of the "real" or "true" debasement % is important. However, that's the least important aspect of the argument, imo.

It's indisputable that if you built your position in this time frame (2017 to 2020 onward for a period of 4+ years) you're doing substantially better than those who kept their money as cash, regardless of which debasement stat we use. That's the validation that counts.

I agree with you, there are some argument in Bitcoin investment that is not necessary because the more you keep arguing the more opportunities are been passed by, so instead of doing that, the energy and time been used in argument if it is been channelled to accumulating Bitcoin I am sure that will be more great and useful than arguing vain. Some people forget about Bitcoin accumulation and be saying what they don't know instead of putting those noise into work.











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Today at 10:42:34 AM
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This part is confusing too.  Personally, I don't really like the idea of buying bitcoin daily unless you have made your weekly budget to account for it.  Generally it is good enough to buy weekly, if you can whether you are paid weekly, bi-weekly, monthly or some other frequency..
Very much correct sir.. Even me personally I consider daily purchasement as stressful and sort of unrealistic... From this part of the world I am from, majority of folks get paid on a monthly basis, while only a very few percentage get paid daily... And since the fund needed for investment is discretionary income, it is when income has been paid that folks could very well sort out their basic needs and still see what is actually left for their investments...And so I think the frequency of buying should very well match with how one receives their income which could usually be monthly, weekly, just like that .. Folks don't have to mount pressure on themselves just because they want to invest in Bitcoin...And the honest truth is that daily purchasement seems so stressful especially when that individual has a lot of engagement and things to do...Anyways not withstanding, folks are still at liberty to approach their investments in whatsoever style they want...











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