School or Skills?

[Lanatsa]

School is important because this is where you start honing your skills to get a job.

There are many who say that school is a failed system, but many engineers are born from those who go to school seriously so for me school is important... Not to belittle any other factor but the fact is that in my country education is mandatory if you want to get a job.

Although I won't deny that having skills can be more meaningful than school.

Skills are important but we can’t deny that educational attainment matters a lot as well especially if you are applying from a prominent company. However, for you to be able to sustain longer your certain job and make you as an asset to your employer, you need both educational achievements and developed skills. And definitely, being passionate to your job so you will always be productive.

Why not choose both? Since we actually need to have those experiences since it can help us to became more knowledgeable people on what field we like to land. Having skills doesn't give any guarantee of success also with having good educational background, but if you mixed this two and you insert lots of effort then maybe this will be good combination to get success especially if you try to build your own business.

I'm not looking forward to use it for 9 - 5 jobs since for me its modern slavery and there's no life improvement to get there. People focus to gain and enrich their selves thru their business and services they offered since with this they could see much better result rather than looking for jobs on companies.

We employers would really be that wanting or liking on having that both having a degree and having that experience but we do know that we cant have it all anytime we do seek for new employee on which specially at the time that you would really be able to encounter those freshgraduates on which they do lack up knowledge and skills but the good thing is that they've been that specialized into those jobs on what they are applying for on which there are employers on which they wont really be that keen about into this aspect and giving out the chance on accepting those new grads rather than on accepting carelessly on which it will be that not relevant to the job. Just like on what others been saying that there are some who do accept out despite of having that lacking of education but having that exceptional skills and knowledge.

In overall preference then we do really want as an employer to have both skills and degree but just like on what i have said that you cant have it all and this is why you would be needing up to choose in between on which its really that common sense into this aspect on which one you would really be able to prioritize. So it will really be that up to you on what are the things that you would really be that needing or wanting or to choose on.

[LogitechMouse]

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First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

Both are important, and both of them are needed in some things.
What I mean is that there are certain jobs where having a degree is makes you more qualified than those that have skills and there are some jobs where you are more qualified if you have lots of skills rather than having a degree.

Let's take an example. I don't know if this is the case, but there are some companies out there that are looking more on the degree side of the applicant rather than the skill side. They believe that skills can be learned that's why they're focusing on those who have a degree. On the flip side, the primary example of job that looks more on the skill-side of thing rather than the degree-side are those freelancing jobs. We know that clients doesn't care if you're a degree holder or not as long as you have the skills to finish the job that they will give to you.

At the end of the day, having both a degree and a skill that you can offer, but for me, you can still thrive and find a job even if you don't have a degree as long as you have a skill or skills that you can offer to land a job. I'm not saying that our education system is failing though. It's just that, they aren't coping up to what people really need. If I'm an employer though, I will look at the skills first, but there's one thing that's higher than both having a degree or having a skill, and that is having a good attitude.

[alastantiger]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

With the development of AI and other easy tools to answer the questions being asked in classroom, exams and assignments, students are no longer passing through the right educational system and the society is getting full of graduate that can't do things on their own without relying on AI and other tools to help them hence employers are now looking for additional skills that'll be good for their business instead hiring someone that they can replace with AI and be paid less.

Skills help you to be more employable hence if you're fortunate to learn a skill, don't miss that opportunity and be neglecting the privilege or it'll be a mistake that might make you to be unemployable as jobs are becomimg more scarce with the high rate of population increasing in the world and it's affecting majority of the countries in the world. I'll choose skills and not school but I won't allow my company to hire someone that can't represent the company well.

[EarnOnVictor]

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First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system?

No, it's not and I like to point it to you today that the education system has not failed. Although many have been disappointed by their bad economies and inability to secure a befitting job or not be able to secure any job at all after spending so much time in school, they still learn one or tow in school that will make them outstanding, relate with people and also have a clue to establish their business. So, it is not a waste.

My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

I will consider both. Illiteracy can be a headache at times even i such is skilled. But if this person is not well-educated in school but is well-skilled, presentable and worthy, why not? We see what is happening in DOGE, he thought like me.

[shogun47]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

This is an observable trend, but there are still no fully objective markers that would help employers recruit the right personnel quickly. In the job market you would want objective markers that allow you to find the right employees quickly with a relatively high success rate. Academic grades and additional qualifications or certificates have so far been the best markers to find employees quickly, but only with a limited success rate. But I have to mention that the chance someone meets your requirements if the grades in relevant subjects are strong is not negligible. It is still good to use those markers, but there could be markers that make far more sense.

Recruiting is time intensive and costly. There are standardized tests for intelligence and languages and things related to intelligence like problem solving etc., but very job specific standardized tests do not really exist across the board. That could be something interesting to develop. I have not come across a particularly well known standardized test for engineers, which has a proven statistical relevance for recruiters.

The problem with the approach of employers to is they still have to double-check what applicants claim to possess in terms of their qualifications and other abilities. This process takes time and standardized tests could help reduce that time and money consuming process.

But I agree in basic terms with you that skills should at least be as important as grades. Grades usually prove that you have been able to get a thing done over a longer period of time as per the instructions. What if you got a genius that can do a thing quicker and better, but only if that person is in the right mood? You employ a genius, but they only want to work sporadically. It could be a problem too. Employers need good people who can deliver consistently in most cases. Maybe sometimes they need the genius only two weeks a year and it is still worth the money if that genius doesn't work the rest of the year.

[BABY SHOES]

School is important because this is where you start honing your skills to get a job.

There are many who say that school is a failed system, but many engineers are born from those who go to school seriously so for me school is important... Not to belittle any other factor but the fact is that in my country education is mandatory if you want to get a job.

Although I won't deny that having skills can be more meaningful than school.

Skills are important but we can’t deny that educational attainment matters a lot as well especially if you are applying from a prominent company. However, for you to be able to sustain longer your certain job and make you as an asset to your employer, you need both educational achievements and developed skills. And definitely, being passionate to your job so you will always be productive.

Why not choose both? Since we actually need to have those experiences since it can help us to became more knowledgeable people on what field we like to land. Having skills doesn't give any guarantee of success also with having good educational background, but if you mixed this two and you insert lots of effort then maybe this will be good combination to get success especially if you try to build your own business.

I'm not looking forward to use it for 9 - 5 jobs since for me its modern slavery and there's no life improvement to get there. People focus to gain and enrich their selves thru their business and services they offered since with this they could see much better result rather than looking for jobs on companies.

Yeah choosing both is better isn't it? Going to school without honing your skills is just as much of a lie as not having a hardworking mind.

Referring to my country where to apply to the company there must be a diploma which must be a high school graduate, at least it is much better if they graduate from college.

So for me school is important to get a job... at least with school not applying to companies is no problem if you already have capital and want to start a business it's better than working.

[moneystery]

most companies nowadays see the competency of their applicants through the level of education they have, it's like a general requirement set by the company, then they look at the skills of their applicants. i've seen it very often how companies require their applicants to have a bachelor's degree or diploma at least to occupy a specific position... even the funny thing is it doesn't matter from which faculty, as long as someone has a degree, then they will be considered by the company for that position, and that's the reality in my country, maybe in other places it's different, but it should be the same.

[Fiatless]

most companies nowadays see the competency of their applicants through the level of education they have, it's like a general requirement set by the company, then they look at the skills of their applicants. i've seen it very often how companies require their applicants to have a bachelor's degree or diploma at least to occupy a specific position... even the funny thing is it doesn't matter from which faculty, as long as someone has a degree, then they will be considered by the company for that position, and that's the reality in my country, maybe in other places it's different, but it should be the same.

The civil service usually requires a certain level of college degree for applicants. Government jobs maintain a high level of bureaucratic processes that make them less dynamic. However, the private sector places more emphasis on skills than college qualifications. I also suspect that organizations specify some level of academic qualification to reduce the number of applicants.

[Mame89]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

It must be admitted that in an era like today, many jobs prioritize skills over diplomas. In addition, if we have skills, it will be easier for us to find work and even create jobs for others. especially if you look at the rich people who exist today, on average they do not have educational degrees but what makes them rich is their skills.

However, that does not mean that school is not important. If you don't go to college, and that means you don't have a diploma, if you want to work abroad as a professional it is difficult if you don't have a diploma. College is essentially an investment, especially training how to think and find networks.
So one effective way to build a career is not only armed with a degree, but you must have skills. Both are important. However, if you ask me, which is more important to be accepted to work in my company for example, of course looking at skills.

[virasog]

It must be admitted that in an era like today, many jobs prioritize skills over diplomas. In addition, if we have skills, it will be easier for us to find work and even create jobs for others. especially if you look at the rich people who exist today, on average they do not have educational degrees but what makes them rich is their skills.

However, that does not mean that school is not important. If you don't go to college, and that means you don't have a diploma, if you want to work abroad as a professional it is difficult if you don't have a diploma. College is essentially an investment, especially training how to think and find networks.
So one effective way to build a career is not only armed with a degree, but you must have skills. Both are important. However, if you ask me, which is more important to be accepted to work in my company for example, of course looking at skills.

Well, schools may be important so that the students will get the basic knowledge and develop the understanding level and after that they should adopt the skills rather than pursuing higher education. The world is changing rapidly, and with AI making a big impact in our world, the skills are the only way to stand out among the competition. The companies no longer prefer candidates with no skills but only knowledge gained through universities. Apart from the above, the skills have two additional benefits that make it stand out from the conventional education system.

1) Learning Skills is cheap

2) Skills are focused and require less time to learn

3) You have more chances to get a job or even start your own freelance business if you are skilled

[Su-asa]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

Every employer wants the best for their company which makes them hire/employs people with skills. However they believes that people with skills has a lot to offer than those with just a certificates. But it's very necessary to also consider one with a certificates and skills. Moreover it's kind of important to consider learning skills based on a particular course you learning in school cause it will help see job quicker than when you only have a certificates without any skill.

[Platinumys]

Education and skills are both very important. If you only have education but no skills then you will not get any job and also if you have skills but if you don't have required certificate then you will never get qualified position. Education is for its own sake, the more a person learns the more he will know about the world and the breadth of his knowledge will continue to grow. I would never suggest to anyone that you give up education to acquire skills. Education is different and it should be done carefully by everyone. If there is education but the required skills are not there, then a separate course can be taken later to acquire specific skills, but once the required time is gone from life, that time will not come back and if the educational qualification cannot be acquired at a certain time, then the qualification can never be acquired later.  So I think education should be given the most importance.

[GIF-JOBS]

most companies nowadays see the competency of their applicants through the level of education they have, it's like a general requirement set by the company, then they look at the skills of their applicants. i've seen it very often how companies require their applicants to have a bachelor's degree or diploma at least to occupy a specific position... even the funny thing is it doesn't matter from which faculty, as long as someone has a degree, then they will be considered by the company for that position, and that's the reality in my country, maybe in other places it's different, but it should be the same.

In fact, the importance of education is endless, to find a good job you have to look at your educational qualifications, when companies hire people, they give more importance to degrees or certificates, without a degree or certificate you will not find a good job anywhere. A person's qualifications are not limited to his degree only, but also depend on his skills, experience and ability to learn. But in the present time no one gives importance to these, so there is no point in saying them, that is why education is very important and a degree or certificate must be kept, otherwise you will not get the respect you deserve anywhere.

[Btcdeybodi]

First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system?

It is a reflection of a closed educational system. When schools fail to change their curriculum to suit current trends it will become useless. Some country's teaching content still includes subjects or courses that are obsolete. These days, the biggest and most effective school is not physical but on the internet.

You are right, most academic institutions do not upgrade their school syllabus to meet up with modern standards which means that the students are likely to miss out on the current societal trends that should have helped to facilitate their learning process and in the world we are now, being educated do not guarantee success because some people are only good at the theoretical aspects of their field of study but when it comes to the practical aspects, they have nothing to offer there. The internet has helped in upgrading learning because students are now exposed to the most recent and updated information that helps them in the course of learning.

My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

Skills, of course. Certificates or school degrees cannot do the job. A good degree without skills to do the job is a waste of resources. This is why I encourage young graduates to add relevant skill sets to their certificates.

However, no matter anything education is still important because even after you must have gotten good skills, it takes someone who is educated to enhance their knowledge about the particular skill they know and also to interact with highly intellectual individuals who can provide an enabling ground for them to perfect their skills and exploit more. Education and skills is important and they both need to work hand-in-hand.

[Zadicar]

most companies nowadays see the competency of their applicants through the level of education they have, it's like a general requirement set by the company, then they look at the skills of their applicants. i've seen it very often how companies require their applicants to have a bachelor's degree or diploma at least to occupy a specific position... even the funny thing is it doesn't matter from which faculty, as long as someone has a degree, then they will be considered by the company for that position, and that's the reality in my country, maybe in other places it's different, but it should be the same.

In fact, the importance of education is endless, to find a good job you have to look at your educational qualifications, when companies hire people, they give more importance to degrees or certificates, without a degree or certificate you will not find a good job anywhere. A person's qualifications are not limited to his degree only, but also depend on his skills, experience and ability to learn. But in the present time no one gives importance to these, so there is no point in saying them, that is why education is very important and a degree or certificate must be kept, otherwise you will not get the respect you deserve anywhere.

If you are an employer then you would definitely be trying out to look for the possible highest education qualification on which we do know that they will really be that you will be preferring it out as an employer. You cant really just that make yourself trying out to hire someone who dont have that qualification on which the primary thing that you will really be that trying out to consider is on the intelligence of a certain person on which they can be able to do the work on a specific position on what your company is lacking. You wont really be just that hiring someone without having that knowledge and that awareness of a specific job or work on which it will really be that so crucial that you would really be needing to get someone whose fit for the said position. If there are some candidates who do have the skills but doesnt have educational background on which this one is considerable too but it will really be that still depending or according into your own choice.

[red4slash]

For now, for me, both are important elements to support our future life.
We cannot choose one of the two because after all these two things have an important role for the conditions of improving the quality of life that we will do considering that skills without education will also make it a little difficult for us to get recognition that we are indeed capable in terms of qualifications, not that in this case we want a validation, it's just that we now live where recognition will come when we are already considered as someone who deserves to be recognized and education is one of the things that can make us recognized by others especially when talking about the world of work.

On the other hand, when we have an education and a degree but without having skills it also becomes a silly thing that can ultimately kill us ourselves so in the end in this case I don't think we can choose one especially when we are able to have both (education and skills) why don't we do that because focusing on just one for me would make the situation a little lame.

[Richbased]

I know that since a lot of graduates don't have jobs after finishing with their education, people will start thinking that those who chose to learn skills and make money from it are better than those who spent years in the University to earn a degree but it will be cowardice for anyone to say that learning a skill is better than being educated. Look at the society we are now, almost everything is going digital, how will someone who didn't go to school cope in this digital era? We should not be blinded with the idea that learning a skill is better than gaining academic exposure. Perhaps, without education the world could have been very backward and outdated and it would have been difficult to make improvements. Having a skill is good but it is also good to acquire educational qualification. A professional employer will still want to employ people who are educated coupled with the skills they got.

[jvanname]

I know that since a lot of graduates don't have jobs after finishing with their education, people will start thinking that those who chose to learn skills and make money from it are better than those who spent years in the University to earn a degree but it will be cowardice for anyone to say that learning a skill is better than being educated. Look at the society we are now, almost everything is going digital, how will someone who didn't go to school cope in this digital era? We should not be blinded with the idea that learning a skill is better than gaining academic exposure. Perhaps, without education the world could have been very backward and outdated and it would have been difficult to make improvements. Having a skill is good but it is also good to acquire educational qualification. A professional employer will still want to employ people who are educated coupled with the skills they got.

Good. Universities promote violence, so nobody should get a job after finishing 'education'. THE PEOPLE HERE CLAIM TO HAVE SOME SORT OF EDUCATION, BUT THEY CANNOT EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT BITCOIN HAS A MINING ALGORITHM THAT WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO ADVANCE SCIENCE!

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[GiftedMAN]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

Every employer wants the best for their company which makes them hire/employs people with skills. However they believes that people with skills has a lot to offer than those with just a certificates. But it's very necessary to also consider one with a certificates and skills. Moreover it's kind of important to consider learning skills based on a particular course you learning in school cause it will help see job quicker than when you only have a certificates without any skill.

Before now the society we found ourselves was more concerned about certificate more than skill but coming to the introduction of some machines which helps to make works easier most companies will prefer to have some that is educated with good grades in the office but other field jobs that requires a lot of skills will be given to skilled men that can deliver the job regardless of their qualifications.

That is to say that the certificate is no longer the only requirement needed to get a good job you also need to have a skill cause it helps the applicant to be employed faster because the organization knows they you can do both the theory and practical works if the need be since you have the skills after your certification.

[Accardo]

Education is different and it should be done carefully by everyone. If there is education but the required skills are not there, then a separate course can be taken later to acquire specific skills, but once the required time is gone from life, that time will not come back and if the educational qualification cannot be acquired at a certain time, then the qualification can never be acquired later.  So I think education should be given the most importance.

The key word "time" and "giving up" summarizes the point you've made on skill and education, both of which requires dedication and consistency. Nobody gets done with the both, learning is the bottom line. Every skill consists of education and research to advance and be the best in the world. So, every skilled person must be acquainted with studying at all times, it mustn't be about school or certificate, it's all about defending what you know. In a nutshell, it's unfair to be an uneducated business man, what would investors think of the project or scheme in deal time.