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June 07, 2025, 10:01:42 PM
Last edit: June 07, 2025, 10:15:07 PM by jvanname
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You have been throwing insult on the group for long that as I'm quoting you I have to snip it. Can I ask you a simple question, I'm throwing back the challenge at you, do you know the mining algorithm you are claiming people on this thread doesn't have the knowledge, you obviously don't know any $shit, if you really do I'm very confident you wouldn't have time to be throwing shade and jab on people pouring their opinions on education and skills.

Bitcoin was never an innovation from beginning, it's a combination of different ideas from different people and Satoshi became creative about it to create something unique the world has never seen before. If you are that genius person who claim to be intelligently sound, you should have some papers and research people can refer to see the work you have done over the years or perhaps BIP_ that you have submitted to Bitcoin developers to improve Bitcoin.
I have done the research but motherfuckers like you are too fucking stupid to understand anything about anything because you are fucking morons so you keep on falling for the same stupid fucking shit over and over again because you are truly fucked up. And BIPs are stupid because Bitcoiners are too stupid to understand basic facts.  You all go to universities that fucking promote violence and you are too fucking braindead to see how this is a problem. Fuck you. YOU ARE ASSUMING THAT I HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING BUT IN REALITY, YOU ARE JUST TOO FUCKING STUPID TO UNDERSTAND ANYTHING THAT I HAVE BEEN DOING! FUCK YOU! YOU ARE A WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT!

FUCK YOU! YOU ARE STUPID!

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June 07, 2025, 10:33:39 PM
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If it is said to be a failure it may not be entirely true, but everyone should hone their skills to make it easier for them to adapt. If education is good and the skills they have are sufficient, it will be much easier for everyone to get a job and I think both are very important. But if the question is categorized in general, then we need to first examine what kind of job sector we provide so that skill qualifications and diplomas can be a suitable reflection for people to work.

I know that almost most people might choose skills over school in giving jobs to others, because sometimes the skills that people have are not affiliated with schools. This depends on the needs of the job and if skills are prioritized, then there is nothing wrong with it, but it is much better when both are fulfilled in people.
I think it depends on each region if it is, depending on whether it is in a rural area far from the city the expertise and skills may be needed in that place to meet its needs, but if born in an urban area, education is prioritized because there will be many industries and companies that need highly educated people, especially those with schools that master computers and general and current insights. However, everything needs to be adjusted in this case because each place will have different needs.
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June 07, 2025, 10:36:56 PM
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I think it depends on each region if it is, depending on whether it is in a rural area far from the city the expertise and skills may be needed in that place to meet its needs, but if born in an urban area, education is prioritized because there will be many industries and companies that need highly educated people, especially those with schools that master computers and general and current insights. However, everything needs to be adjusted in this case because each place will have different needs.
Most jobs are bullshit. Most college graduates are fucking stupid. This is because universities are full of education theater instead of actual education. Universities fucking promote violence and refuse to acknowledge that they have a problem. This just tells me that all the fuckers who went to college are mentally retarded worthless blowhards.

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June 08, 2025, 03:03:31 PM
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I think it depends on each region if it is, depending on whether it is in a rural area far from the city the expertise and skills may be needed in that place to meet its needs, but if born in an urban area, education is prioritized because there will be many industries and companies that need highly educated people, especially those with schools that master computers and general and current insights. However, everything needs to be adjusted in this case because each place will have different needs.
It cannot be denied because the basis of work in urban areas considers higher education more but there are also qualifications regarding the job because not all of them will be in a room that controls work via computers and field workers are also needed. That's why I say that both are important and it will be much better when education and skills are owned by someone. For certain jobs it may be true that education is very important but if it's just making reports on a computer everyone can do it because they can take a quick course.

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June 08, 2025, 03:27:31 PM
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We are actually living in the era of technological singularity, when changes in the world are happening faster than a person can comprehend them.

New narratives appear every day. Cryptocurrency, robots, artificial intelligence, 3D printers, quantum computers - until recently, none of this existed at all.

So is it any wonder that educational programs do not have time to include those important things that are needed for a successful business? Therefore, a modern person studies throughout his entire life.

However, in my opinion, this does not cancel the importance of basic higher education. In order to master new subjects, acquire new skills and abilities, it is necessary to know fundamental things well.

Therefore, if I were an employer, I would pay attention to both the skills and abilities of the applicant, and his fundamental education (this is also important).

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June 08, 2025, 06:22:34 PM
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We are actually living in the era of technological singularity, when changes in the world are happening faster than a person can comprehend them.

New narratives appear every day. Cryptocurrency, robots, artificial intelligence, 3D printers, quantum computers - until recently, none of this existed at all.

So is it any wonder that educational programs do not have time to include those important things that are needed for a successful business? Therefore, a modern person studies throughout his entire life.

However, in my opinion, this does not cancel the importance of basic higher education. In order to master new subjects, acquire new skills and abilities, it is necessary to know fundamental things well.

Therefore, if I were an employer, I would pay attention to both the skills and abilities of the applicant, and his fundamental education (this is also important).
Hearing the anti-intellectuals talk about innovation and education here is so grating to the ears. The people here cannot even comprehend that Bitcoin does not even have a mining algorithm that is designed to advance science. They are that fucking stupid.

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June 08, 2025, 08:54:27 PM
 #467

We are actually living in the era of technological singularity, when changes in the world are happening faster than a person can comprehend them.

New narratives appear every day. Cryptocurrency, robots, artificial intelligence, 3D printers, quantum computers - until recently, none of this existed at all.

So is it any wonder that educational programs do not have time to include those important things that are needed for a successful business? Therefore, a modern person studies throughout his entire life.

However, in my opinion, this does not cancel the importance of basic higher education. In order to master new subjects, acquire new skills and abilities, it is necessary to know fundamental things well.

Therefore, if I were an employer, I would pay attention to both the skills and abilities of the applicant, and his fundamental education (this is also important).
Learning would be a never ending process on a certain individual and just like on what you have said about that this world do have that fast changing phase or pace on which you would be needing up to cope up with, because if you dont then you would definitely be getting left behind with it and just like been said that continuous learning will be that relevant or something that needs up to have. If you are an employer then it would be that in default that you would be trying out to check about into the educational background even if we do say that school isnt everything but nothing beats out into an individual who do have that educational background on which at least you do see that someone could easily be able to adjust or be able to learn or able to get to catch up if ever there would be trainings or some sort just because you do know that a certain individual do knows on what he/she that dealing into. There might be some exemptions for someone to get hired when just that basing up on the skills on which it could really happen but for those individuals who are planning to get or hover up such venture then its always that best that you should be attaining some educational background on which it will be adding in overall credentials on which it will be that helping it out for you on being getting hired. It do varies because HR department usually be always that keen with these details on which they would be giving out that kind of priority for those who do have degree and even into those individuals on having both but since not everyone do have that kind of capability then it would be always that survival of the fittest when it comes on finding job or getting hired. Getting experience is the most hardest thing specially when you are just that recently finished with your studies because the main requirement for most companies that they are seeking into is that they do look for those who do have experiences.

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June 08, 2025, 11:28:16 PM
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If I am an employer, I'll based it first on attitude then next is skills. I don't mind which school and wherever they have come from because it will reflect on their attitude. In my country, it's just sad that we've got the "reputable universities" labelled as that and I am not from one of them because the tuition fee is high and we don't have college or student loans. But many of these reputable universities are the state universities that are for free, if there will be some fees they're very minimal. To be honest, the schools are no longer an important matter and skills is what the employers are recognizing nowadays. There are potential employees that are from good schools but someone else from an unknown school is better at what they do.


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June 08, 2025, 11:28:37 PM
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First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system?
No, on the contrary our educational system is doing just fine, just that in most part of the world poverty has kept so many children out of school.
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My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
As an employer, what am mostly looking out for is what value are you offering to me or my brand, so wether you are a graduate or not, as long as you can give me what I want, then you are qualified for the  job, having a valuable skills is a major plus but what I draw my conclusion is having the ability to give me what I want.
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June 09, 2025, 12:08:09 AM
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If I am an employer, I'll based it first on attitude then next is skills. I don't mind which school and wherever they have come from because it will reflect on their attitude. In my country, it's just sad that we've got the "reputable universities" labelled as that and I am not from one of them because the tuition fee is high and we don't have college or student loans. But many of these reputable universities are the state universities that are for free, if there will be some fees they're very minimal. To be honest, the schools are no longer an important matter and skills is what the employers are recognizing nowadays. There are potential employees that are from good schools but someone else from an unknown school is better at what they do.
There are no reputable universities because universities promote violence and refuse to acknowledge that they have a problem. Anyone who believe that these institutions are or should be reputable has a very sick mind and needs to be locked up.

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June 09, 2025, 05:59:35 AM
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School is what increases our knowledge and helps us to make a future, while skills are what directly apply to our lives. If you have good skills, you will be able to solve your own problems. School is what makes it easier for you to learn and understand the world. Skills are what you use to help you succeed in life, which will have an important impact on our lives. The importance of school and skills is immense in almost all aspects of our lives.
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June 09, 2025, 08:21:51 AM
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We are actually living in the era of technological singularity, when changes in the world are happening faster than a person can comprehend them.

New narratives appear every day. Cryptocurrency, robots, artificial intelligence, 3D printers, quantum computers - until recently, none of this existed at all.

So is it any wonder that educational programs do not have time to include those important things that are needed for a successful business? Therefore, a modern person studies throughout his entire life.

However, in my opinion, this does not cancel the importance of basic higher education. In order to master new subjects, acquire new skills and abilities, it is necessary to know fundamental things well.

Therefore, if I were an employer, I would pay attention to both the skills and abilities of the applicant, and his fundamental education (this is also important).

You can learn fundamental things, skills and abilities while working. After a person gets accepts for a job, he still goes through process of learning. There is still a mentor who teach him how to do his tasks. In such situation, a person with skills is more preferable, than someone who has only theoretical knowledge. When a person gets a job, his employer usually expect that employee would start working and generating profit for company straight from the start. Skiller person can start to sooner than someone who knows theory and it would be his first time using his knowledge on practice.

 
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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
Both education and skills are necessary, but first a person has to be educated and then he has to be skilled. No one can learn skills without going to school, so first he must go to school, which means he must build an academic career. Then, if he is well-educated, he will definitely be skilled. Just as education is necessary in all aspects of human life, a skilled and educated person plays a huge role in the economic development of a country. Without practical knowledge, no matter how educated one is, he or she is of no use in the development of the country. Therefore, both school and skills are very necessary for the development of life.

 
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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
Both education and skills are necessary, but first a person has to be educated and then he has to be skilled. No one can learn skills without going to school, so first he must go to school, which means he must build an academic career. Then, if he is well-educated, he will definitely be skilled. Just as education is necessary in all aspects of human life, a skilled and educated person plays a huge role in the economic development of a country. Without practical knowledge, no matter how educated one is, he or she is of no use in the development of the country. Therefore, both school and skills are very necessary for the development of life.

There are many ways to acquire skills and most skills are developed through practice and experience. Therefore, a person who does not go to school or has no (formal) education can also acquire skills. But for these people, there will be many limitations in developing skills and careers because they do not have in-depth knowledge.

A person with skills but no education (degree) may have an initial advantage but in the long run, they will not be able to compete with people who have both education and skills. If we pay attention, we will see that many recruiting companies prioritize skilled people but mainly only in low-level positions. While higher level positions always require candidates to have both qualifications and skills. So you are right, both knowledge and skills are important and necessary.

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School is what increases our knowledge and helps us to make a future, while skills are what directly apply to our lives. If you have good skills, you will be able to solve your own problems. School is what makes it easier for you to learn and understand the world. Skills are what you use to help you succeed in life, which will have an important impact on our lives. The importance of school and skills is immense in almost all aspects of our lives.
Skill has the kind of value that school may not provide. The end result of every skill is to generate income; this value in skill is always there. The value of income from a skill is always certain, but the value of income may not really be there for a graduate who is just relying on a certificate to work with. One of the benefits of going to school is that it enlightens one to always have an understanding of what is happening in the world. That is why I will always advise people to take school and skills seriously. If one has these two qualifications, I think life will be sweet. Not having educational qualifications can limit one from getting to know some high-profile people; education from school is a qualification to add to the portfolio.

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June 09, 2025, 05:19:53 PM
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School is what increases our knowledge and helps us to make a future, while skills are what directly apply to our lives. If you have good skills, you will be able to solve your own problems. School is what makes it easier for you to learn and understand the world. Skills are what you use to help you succeed in life, which will have an important impact on our lives. The importance of school and skills is immense in almost all aspects of our lives.
In the world now, everyone is focused on solving their own problems and putting food on their families table. That's what matters. School just give an additional knowledge of things that ain't really important. Skills create a future for your and gives you a predictable end

I will prefer both school and skills because they complement each other. When someone starts school life, he starts gaining knowledge of all that. However, the current generation of education is really moving towards many weak. It is usually based on whose practice. But if a company or a multinational company is applied for a job, then the right to education is required. However, most of the time all companies consider the CEO skills because skills help people achieve success and solve all the hardest tasks. On the other hand, the knowledge and education acquired at school reaches people to the edge of success. Since then both education and skills are very important .

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There are many ways to acquire skills and most skills are developed through practice and experience. Therefore, a person who does not go to school or has no (formal) education can also acquire skills. But for these people, there will be many limitations in developing skills and careers because they do not have in-depth knowledge.

A person with skills but no education (degree) may have an initial advantage but in the long run, they will not be able to compete with people who have both education and skills. If we pay attention, we will see that many recruiting companies prioritize skilled people but mainly only in low-level positions. While higher level positions always require candidates to have both qualifications and skills. So you are right, both knowledge and skills are important and necessary.

Simply put, people who only have skills without formal education will always be employees, and they may not have the opportunity to occupy certain positions, which usually require someone to meet qualifications. Unless they inherit a company from their family, the story will be different, but I think that rarely happens.

Formal education has certification and makes someone entitled to have a certain degree, which will be proof that they meet the standards desired by a company. When occupying a position, what is needed is not only skills, but a thorough understanding of how to take a policy and implement it. I imagine formal education and skills are like two sides of a coin that complement each other and are equally important.



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There are many ways to acquire skills and most skills are developed through practice and experience. Therefore, a person who does not go to school or has no (formal) education can also acquire skills. But for these people, there will be many limitations in developing skills and careers because they do not have in-depth knowledge.

A person with skills but no education (degree) may have an initial advantage but in the long run, they will not be able to compete with people who have both education and skills. If we pay attention, we will see that many recruiting companies prioritize skilled people but mainly only in low-level positions. While higher level positions always require candidates to have both qualifications and skills. So you are right, both knowledge and skills are important and necessary.

Simply put, people who only have skills without formal education will always be employees, and they may not have the opportunity to occupy certain positions, which usually require someone to meet qualifications. Unless they inherit a company from their family, the story will be different, but I think that rarely happens.

Formal education has certification and makes someone entitled to have a certain degree, which will be proof that they meet the standards desired by a company. When occupying a position, what is needed is not only skills, but a thorough understanding of how to take a policy and implement it. I imagine formal education and skills are like two sides of a coin that complement each other and are equally important.
And thats the reality on which even if you do put up yourself into a company but there's no way that you can be able to put up yourself into those higher positions. Why? Because one of the main qualifications will be that you do need a bachelors degree on which if you are someone who didnt finished up college then you would definitely be missing out that opportunity and thats why you would be that still remaining at your current position until you do get old. There might be some exemptions though and it would be that entirely depending on your boss or the company because there are certain situations that there are those who had been promoted despite on having those lack of credentials but of course it will be that not giving out guarantees that it will happen into you and thats why its always better that you should be finishing your studies first and then next trying out to hover yourself on learning up different set of skills.

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The greatest people in the world now are people who use skills to progress. School provides you with government work which can never make you the richest person on earth no matter what kind of government work you possess. But using your skills and running your own business, being a boss of your self, your can achieve greater height than being employed by the government.
To understand life better and to progress, we need both skills and schooling. Schooling gives a person awareness thinking ability and the ability to recognize right and wrong. Skills enable us to succeed in the practical field. Just getting a degree is not enough, but it is also necessary to learn skills according to the requirements of the time. Education gives us a perspective to think, while skills give us the power to put our thoughts into practice. In today world only those nations are moving forward that are educated and skilled. Youth should learn some useful skills along with education. Knowledge is necessary to understand the problems of life better. And skills are essential to find solutions to these problems. The combination of education and skills is the key to a successful life.











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Simply put, people who only have skills without formal education will always be employees, and they may not have the opportunity to occupy certain positions, which usually require someone to meet qualifications. Unless they inherit a company from their family, the story will be different, but I think that rarely happens.

Formal education has certification and makes someone entitled to have a certain degree, which will be proof that they meet the standards desired by a company. When occupying a position, what is needed is not only skills, but a thorough understanding of how to take a policy and implement it. I imagine formal education and skills are like two sides of a coin that complement each other and are equally important.
And thats the reality on which even if you do put up yourself into a company but there's no way that you can be able to put up yourself into those higher positions. Why? Because one of the main qualifications will be that you do need a bachelors degree on which if you are someone who didnt finished up college then you would definitely be missing out that opportunity and thats why you would be that still remaining at your current position until you do get old. There might be some exemptions though and it would be that entirely depending on your boss or the company because there are certain situations that there are those who had been promoted despite on having those lack of credentials but of course it will be that not giving out guarantees that it will happen into you and thats why its always better that you should be finishing your studies first and then next trying out to hover yourself on learning up different set of skills.
A real-life example of the importance of education and qualifications is to look at the world's leading corporations today. Except for founders like Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates, they do not have college degrees but they are people who have studied at the most prestigious schools in the world. Meanwhile, most of the remaining CEOs of large corporations have high education and degrees.
For example, Tim Cook, he has a master's degree from Duke University and a bachelor's degree from Auburn University. Or Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, who also graduated with a bachelor's and master's degree from Stanford University...I have never seen anyone without a degree and only skills who can take up important positions in corporations and companies.

It can be said that education and degrees are still extremely important in today's age. Only short-sighted people look down on degrees and think that skills alone are enough.


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