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August 22, 2025, 08:42:14 PM
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If I am an employer, I'll based it first on attitude then next is skills. I don't mind which school and wherever they have come from because it will reflect on their attitude.
When you employ base on skills in your company, it will reduce your spending on workers salary and increase your income from the company, which is the wish of every company owner not to spend much on workers salary, those that are skillful last longer in a company compare graduate that just graduated from school looking for company that will be paying employees huge amount of money from the company which is difficult for such employees to stay long for the company to make progress, than to focus on their goal from the company, it will be difficult for those that are skillful to make trouble with company that employed them to get weekly income, but graduate don't take that shit from any company that misbehave to them because they know all the rules that governed employees and employers.

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August 22, 2025, 09:19:03 PM
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If I am an employer, I'll based it first on attitude then next is skills. I don't mind which school and wherever they have come from because it will reflect on their attitude.
When you employ base on skills in your company, it will reduce your spending on workers salary and increase your income from the company, which is the wish of every company owner not to spend much on workers salary, those that are skillful last longer in a company compare graduate that just graduated from school looking for company that will be paying employees huge amount of money from the company which is difficult for such employees to stay long for the company to make progress, than to focus on their goal from the company, it will be difficult for those that are skillful to make trouble with company that employed them to get weekly income, but graduate don't take that shit from any company that misbehave to them because they know all the rules that governed employees and employers.
  employing the right person is key a fundamental to the growth and success of the company just like you have said employing the right person will help even financial.


Both school and skill has their own place in the life of any individual so it up to the person involved to choose whether it's school or skills but skill is one thing that this generation has come to learn and embrace


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August 22, 2025, 11:09:36 PM
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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
it depends on the country that you find yourself if you are in good country I will advise the use to prefer education more than skills because education will give you a good job that government will respect you and also Honor you, and you will not be maltreat or look less to the eye of the government, but in the country whereby government does not value education and think that the best thing to do is to learn skill, because skill is something that also make someone to be rich,

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August 23, 2025, 10:19:32 AM
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I think it depends on the job or industry. For example, most employers nowadays in the IT industry don't really care about the degree. What's important is if you can do the job or not. They prefer to look at your previous works and portfolio in order to see what you are capable of, which makes sense. This also why there are a lot of career shifters in this field. Obviously, certain professions (Doctor, Lawyer, Engineer, etc.) definitely require a degree. It's basically up to you whichever you value more. What matters most is that whatever you choose opens up a lot of opportunities.
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August 23, 2025, 10:33:03 AM
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employing the right person is key a fundamental to the growth and success of the company just like you have said employing the right person will help even financial.


Both school and skill has their own place in the life of any individual so it up to the person involved to choose whether it's school or skills but skill is one thing that this generation has come to learn and embrace
Honestly, in my country, there's not a shortage of smart people, just honest ones. And yes, finding honest workers is quite difficult, because sometimes there are workers who don't do their jobs well, whether it's through lying or simply having bad behavior. It's difficult to find people who are truly trustworthy in carrying out their duties, and even with the government, they're sometimes only nice at first.
I believe that school and skills are interconnected. Through school, we can acquire good skills, and there are also schools to hone specialized skills. But not all skills can be learned in school; sometimes skills are acquired through everyday life. These skills are like the legs that enable us to stand and survive with the skills we possess.

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August 23, 2025, 10:51:45 AM
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If I am an employer, I'll based it first on attitude then next is skills. I don't mind which school and wherever they have come from because it will reflect on their attitude.
When you employ base on skills in your company, it will reduce your spending on workers salary and increase your income from the company, which is the wish of every company owner not to spend much on workers salary, those that are skillful last longer in a company compare graduate that just graduated from school looking for company that will be paying employees huge amount of money from the company which is difficult for such employees to stay long for the company to make progress, than to focus on their goal from the company, it will be difficult for those that are skillful to make trouble with company that employed them to get weekly income, but graduate don't take that shit from any company that misbehave to them because they know all the rules that governed employees and employers.

it's what they say, take long to contract but be fast to remove people if they don't fit the company
this is a golden rule because helps you to make a small trouble to not become a big trouble
and helps you stir your boat on the correct direction from start

it's probably better to take longer to contract than rush into it too

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August 24, 2025, 03:25:21 AM
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Honestly, in my country, there's not a shortage of smart people, just honest ones. And yes, finding honest workers is quite difficult, because sometimes there are workers who don't do their jobs well, whether it's through lying or simply having bad behavior. It's difficult to find people who are truly trustworthy in carrying out their duties, and even with the government, they're sometimes only nice at first.

An employee is not your family as they say so you can't expect them to really perform well in their job. They're just there because of the salary you give to them. It's rare to find an employee that really cares for his company or boss' business.

I believe that school and skills are interconnected. Through school, we can acquire good skills, and there are also schools to hone specialized skills. But not all skills can be learned in school; sometimes skills are acquired through everyday life. These skills are like the legs that enable us to stand and survive with the skills we possess.

Skills we learned outside school can't be get inside of them while what you learn in going to school is not easily taught outside by anyone. I don't believe anyone can succeed with only one, some may did but not everyone will have the same opportunity as those who made it with skills alone.

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When I was in school, I had learn a skill, well it was a soft skill which is virtual assistant. I thought nothing was goon come out of it while in school and that I need to focus on my study and when I'm done, I can then focus more on my skill. But it happened the other way round. I was getting gigs and recommendation from people far and near. I was wondering if I could cope in school, at the end of the day, I became famous and start using my skill more than what I learnt from school. Till date, I will choose skill over school.

it depends on the country that you find yourself if you are in good country I will advise the use to prefer education more than skills because education will give you a good job that government will respect you and also Honor you, and you will not be maltreat or look less to the eye of the government, but in the country whereby government does not value education and think that the best thing to do is to learn skill, because skill is something that also make someone to be rich,

Yes, it sure depend on the society you find yourselves. Some society prefer skilled workers over certificate while in some countries your certificate speaks for you. This is why we have fake doctors, nurses, engineers, including all fake professions in our world today. Education is good, like its a criteria but when it comes to earn a living, people dont see education as a means anymore.
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When I was in school, I had learn a skill, well it was a soft skill which is virtual assistant. I thought nothing was goon come out of it while in school and that I need to focus on my study and when I'm done, I can then focus more on my skill. But it happened the other way round. I was getting gigs and recommendation from people far and near. I was wondering if I could cope in school, at the end of the day, I became famous and start using my skill more than what I learnt from school. Till date, I will choose skill over school.

it depends on the country that you find yourself if you are in good country I will advise the use to prefer education more than skills because education will give you a good job that government will respect you and also Honor you, and you will not be maltreat or look less to the eye of the government, but in the country whereby government does not value education and think that the best thing to do is to learn skill, because skill is something that also make someone to be rich,

Yes, it sure depend on the society you find yourselves. Some society prefer skilled workers over certificate while in some countries your certificate speaks for you. This is why we have fake doctors, nurses, engineers, including all fake professions in our world today. Education is good, like its a criteria but when it comes to earn a living, people dont see education as a means anymore.

A degree is not a means of life but a means of slavery, because no matter the certificate you have at hand, you will mostly end up working under someone. That person will not give you any freedom of your time anymore, and in the end, you will lose your time while gaining only a small amount of money. That money will not even be enough for your needs. But with skills, you will have your own time and your own say in your business. If you like, you may choose not to work, and you will not lose the work, though you might lose money. This brings us to the phrase that says “time is money” this is not for salary earners, but for self-employed people with skills.

Judging from experience, when you are still in school and you learn a skill, it not only increases your income but also makes you popular in the school. In such a case, you will always choose skills over school, because without that skill that was giving you money, you might have ended up not finishing school due to school fees or other financial challenges. That is why it is advisable that even if you are going to school, you should also get your own personal skills that will give you more money, because school itself is also a kind of business center where you are likely to earn more if you have something to offer.

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employing the right person is key a fundamental to the growth and success of the company just like you have said employing the right person will help even financial.


Both school and skill has their own place in the life of any individual so it up to the person involved to choose whether it's school or skills but skill is one thing that this generation has come to learn and embrace
Honestly, in my country, there's not a shortage of smart people, just honest ones. And yes, finding honest workers is quite difficult, because sometimes there are workers who don't do their jobs well, whether it's through lying or simply having bad behavior. It's difficult to find people who are truly trustworthy in carrying out their duties, and even with the government, they're sometimes only nice at first.
I believe that school and skills are interconnected. Through school, we can acquire good skills, and there are also schools to hone specialized skills. But not all skills can be learned in school; sometimes skills are acquired through everyday life. These skills are like the legs that enable us to stand and survive with the skills we possess.
The education system of most countries does not teach them skills but provides them with the necessary education to make them fundamentally knowledgeable. School education works like a primary step in developing your knowledge and innate qualities. After working in an organization, you keep on making yourself skilled according to the requirements of that organization. Not all the employees working in an organization work diligently if they do not have formal education. This is because the formal education structure makes them responsible, patiance and attentive to work, making them attentive to new innovations and from them the organization starts to benefit greatly.

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Creativity is all that matters, I saw a 16 years old billionaire who made this much by creating a AI machine, and we have other good examples like richest men around the world, majority of them are all dropped out.

Some don't even have any degrees, but truth need to be told, we all can't be Elon Musk and others, there will be problem if every one thinks like this because they will believe that education won't get them anywhere.

Whereas education and degrees will serve some people right, that they won't ever dream of becoming like Elon and others, meaning we can't all walk the same path and get the same result, so I believe that school and skills are both not bad at all, better get exposed to both.

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Creativity is all that matters, I saw a 16 years old billionaire who made this much by creating a AI machine, and we have other good examples like richest men around the world, majority of them are all dropped out.

Some don't even have any degrees, but truth need to be told, we all can't be Elon Musk and others, there will be problem if every one thinks like this because they will believe that education won't get them anywhere.

Whereas education and degrees will serve some people right, that they won't ever dream of becoming like Elon and others, meaning we can't all walk the same path and get the same result, so I believe that school and skills are both not bad at all, better get exposed to both.

The likes of Steve jobs, dropped out of school to go for his innovative skills, and it paid off really huge. Thing is, anybody with an instinct and listens to it, would make something out of their dream. Education is great, and fine, even the Jews are the richest because of their combination of School and skill. The both helps to catapult young people into doing the extraordinary. Despite the fact that not everyone can be conversent at doing great in the two, yet building a skill that's on demand saves not just the acquisser but humanity as well.

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August 24, 2025, 02:06:14 PM
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employing the right person is key a fundamental to the growth and success of the company just like you have said employing the right person will help even financial.


Both school and skill has their own place in the life of any individual so it up to the person involved to choose whether it's school or skills but skill is one thing that this generation has come to learn and embrace
Honestly, in my country, there's not a shortage of smart people, just honest ones. And yes, finding honest workers is quite difficult, because sometimes there are workers who don't do their jobs well, whether it's through lying or simply having bad behavior. It's difficult to find people who are truly trustworthy in carrying out their duties, and even with the government, they're sometimes only nice at first.
I believe that school and skills are interconnected. Through school, we can acquire good skills, and there are also schools to hone specialized skills. But not all skills can be learned in school; sometimes skills are acquired through everyday life. These skills are like the legs that enable us to stand and survive with the skills we possess.
Finishing up school or getting a degree is something that should be a default thing for someone that needs to be finished. Yes, there are those billionaires out there on which they are that drop out on school or havent been able to finish up a degree but ended up on such situation but we do know that talent and ideas isnt always the same with each individual on which means that not all dropouts would be ending up on the same. It do came from hardwork and with brilliant ideas on which even despite on having no degree but still ending up on having that fate on becoming rich or becomes successful.

In overall then it will be recommended or suggested that you should finish up school on which its not talking about being that rich but rather on the knowledge and awareness that you can be able to obtain up somehow on which it would be that relevant or helpful on day to day living.

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August 24, 2025, 02:21:01 PM
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Creativity is all that matters, I saw a 16 years old billionaire who made this much by creating a AI machine, and we have other good examples like richest men around the world, majority of them are all dropped out.

Some don't even have any degrees, but truth need to be told, we all can't be Elon Musk and others, there will be problem if every one thinks like this because they will believe that education won't get them anywhere.

Whereas education and degrees will serve some people right, that they won't ever dream of becoming like Elon and others, meaning we can't all walk the same path and get the same result, so I believe that school and skills are both not bad at all, better get exposed to both.

The likes of Steve jobs, dropped out of school to go for his innovative skills, and it paid off really huge. Thing is, anybody with an instinct and listens to it, would make something out of their dream. Education is great, and fine, even the Jews are the richest because of their combination of School and skill. The both helps to catapult young people into doing the extraordinary. Despite the fact that not everyone can be conversent at doing great in the two, yet building a skill that's on demand saves not just the acquisser but humanity as well.

Just because they dropped out of school or don't have a college degree doesn't mean they never went to school or weren't educated. Not only Steve Jobs but Elon and Mark are also billionaires who dropped out of school to start their own businesses. But we need to know that they have one thing in common, which is that they are rare geniuses in the world. They were also top students at the most prestigious schools in the world.
Meanwhile, most of us are ordinary people without those natural talents. So we should not compare and take them as an example and think that school is unnecessary.

For ordinary people like us, I don't believe that anyone can have great ideas or outstanding creativity without proper education.

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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

We can not take away the place and  relevance of education but however, it is necessary to acquire a skill owing to the fact that the systems has changed from where one will be dependent on just a particular skill or source of income.

Undoubtably some professions acquired from formal education can also be seen as skill but however it does not take the need to be able to multitask by putting in efforts towards other things that can be useful.  In my opinion I think one can actually add a skill to formal education
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Yes, it sure depend on the society you find yourselves. Some society prefer skilled workers over certificate while in some countries your certificate speaks for you. This is why we have fake doctors, nurses, engineers, including all fake professions in our world today. Education is good, like its a criteria but when it comes to earn a living, people dont see education as a means anymore.
Educational tools are actually only for ourselves, and some of them are not used when we start earning a living or income. Because in earning a living, skills and intelligence are highly prioritized, so things like diplomas or certificates are less valuable unless the job is directed towards the government, which essentially requires proof through education, even if the holder of the diploma knows nothing. So, it doesn't just depend on the specific place or country, but also depends on the career path itself, as each path always has its own foundations that must be understood.

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August 24, 2025, 06:52:19 PM
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Yes, it sure depend on the society you find yourselves. Some society prefer skilled workers over certificate while in some countries your certificate speaks for you. This is why we have fake doctors, nurses, engineers, including all fake professions in our world today. Education is good, like its a criteria but when it comes to earn a living, people dont see education as a means anymore.

Actually, it all depends on where we come from, so where there is a demand for skill services. Mostly, the places where they are learning skills will be more advantageous in terms of earning a living. But in my country, most people do both. Parents take their children to learn skills at an early stage, alongside school. Once the children come back from school and finish their assignments, they move on to where they are learning their skill.

Seriously, this method has helped a lot of people in my country. Because once their children graduate from college, they should have finished learning whatever skill they want to master. This approach has not interfered with their seriousness regarding education. In fact, the skills that many people learn are often what they use in higher institutions. They use those skills to support themselves.

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August 25, 2025, 06:31:05 AM
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The society has changed the purpose of school that is why we now compare School and skill, the purpose of school is to teach people skills but now the purpose of school has changed to certificate collection people are going to school and when they finish they have no skill or they have nothing apart from their certificate which is very bad and that is not the purpose of school, in the early days when school was introduced it was like a form of teaching different kind of skill, but right now is not like that anymore it is now a place for collection of certificate.
The reason why a lot of people are suffering and without job is because of the present condition of school people go there spend years and come out without having anything to show for it apart from there certificate, what they are teaching you in school is what someone formulated by itself without going to school, the idea of school has really changed and it will keep affecting us if we don't change back the idea to what it was before.











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August 25, 2025, 08:39:07 AM
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Yes, it sure depend on the society you find yourselves. Some society prefer skilled workers over certificate while in some countries your certificate speaks for you. This is why we have fake doctors, nurses, engineers, including all fake professions in our world today. Education is good, like its a criteria but when it comes to earn a living, people dont see education as a means anymore.
Educational tools are actually only for ourselves, and some of them are not used when we start earning a living or income. Because in earning a living, skills and intelligence are highly prioritized, so things like diplomas or certificates are less valuable unless the job is directed towards the government, which essentially requires proof through education, even if the holder of the diploma knows nothing. So, it doesn't just depend on the specific place or country, but also depends on the career path itself, as each path always has its own foundations that must be understood.
If we're directly involved in the community, skills are paramount, but a diploma will be a valuable asset. Some companies or individuals typically look at education first, then conduct skills tests. Others prioritize skills, so it depends on the situation.

If we're talking about the importance of both, the answer is yes. I don't think we can compare two things that are actually positive to have. If we can have both, then we should strive to have them as much as possible.

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Creativity is all that matters, I saw a 16 years old billionaire who made this much by creating a AI machine, and we have other good examples like richest men around the world, majority of them are all dropped out.

Some don't even have any degrees, but truth need to be told, we all can't be Elon Musk and others, there will be problem if every one thinks like this because they will believe that education won't get them anywhere.

Whereas education and degrees will serve some people right, that they won't ever dream of becoming like Elon and others, meaning we can't all walk the same path and get the same result, so I believe that school and skills are both not bad at all, better get exposed to both.

Hi KiaKia well said, but the world of technology is changing rapidly & the mileage of traditional degrees has depleted so much that now they are not even that significant. You could add one more example of Kairan Quazi, this guy is just 16 years old & grind at Citadel Securities after having joined SpaceX at the age of 14 Cool.  Next i think you wanted to mention Pranjali Awasthi, right? a 16 year old AI entrepreneur whose agency is valued at $12 million.  These are not just exceptions dude,, but they are setting on trends, you have to catch their pulse!! Education is kinda fine however what matters now is your ability to adapt, your creativity & hustle that could often hammer a diploma. yeah, the school is still very relevant however do not shut one's eyes to or miss the opportunity to develop skills & innovation Wink

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